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Trumptard says gobble gobble gobble. Blah blah blah.

Thanks for the well thought out post Kamala.

OMG PUH-lease shut up. Libtard libtard libtard… that’s getting as old as great grandpas bearskin rubber, and you’re using it three times as much.

If that’s all you have to say when you address me, stick it in your x-hole.

1) I wasn't addressing you. 2) I'll address you however I please.

That is a complete lie.

All they have is lies and delusions.

Not a lie. When posts are made about libtard rioters all the libtards in this forum start deflecting, whatabouting, and screaming BUT TRUMP!!!!! Every single time.

Or the infamous "It's secretly MAGA pretending to be libtards!!!!".

Per Goper’s standards taking a knee for equality is a violent protest.

MAGA lies are the worst lies. They can make you believe or accept Russian propaganda. Cause insurrection. Cause covid to kill a million. Cause red waves to dematerialize. Cause red brains to rot into mush. Cause bigots to vote. Cause teen gun nuts to kill protesters. Cause Sieg Heils to look like Roman Salutes. Cause institutions to disappear. Cause innocent people to be locked in a Salvadorian prison. Cause libertarians to crack… Feel free to add to the list team democracy, MAGA maggots need a wake up call.

Umbrella-man was a white supremacist. And Donald J Trump is the most despised man in the world. So just stop… y’all earned this crap.

And you expect me (or anyone) to take you seriously?

Well, I’m not going to roll around in the mud anymore. I know that you know the truth on some level, Eve. I hope you have a good night.

You are literally the last person I'd look to to judge a well-thought out post.

trump is now saying that he will send Americans to El Salvador

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/the-...alvador-in-harrowing-comments-to-bukele/

Disgusting vile orange menace to society.

Goper’s mandated this crap. Hate is strong with all of them.

FYI … Concentration camps in other countries is what Nazi’s do.

That's the biggest pile of BS I've ever seen you post.. Geez girl,, Wake up.. Open your eyes.

She’s drunk trolling. It’s a thing in MAGA.

US Born Immigration Lawyer receives self-deportation email demanding she leave the country.

Another clerical mistake…

Worth the 10 min listen....

Only 2:33 into the video. The guy is somewhat impressive but he's kinda fixated on his "gotcha" moment. He's talking to a bunch of media 'reporters' ... not the Journalists and people who write the articles, the juniors and low downs who travel round in the off chance of a press conference and spend 12 hours a day for a possible 8 minute soundbite/clip. Then he wants to paint the entire "news media" as not knowing his gotcha question. . . . I have a million bucks that says probably all, certainly the majority of legal journalist at the WSJ, The Atlanta and other newspapers and media outlets would know. But a perfect example of asking the stooge a question yhou know they don't know - then painting an entire group as being at the same level of competence as the stooge you just set up.

**Edit - it reminds me of left wing youtubers goign around and asking dumb Maga supporters what might be simple questions that, if you ask 200 people you'll find someone dumb who doesn't know better than to admit they don't know. So - both sides do it. Not claiming otherwise.** Same as Ruch Limbagh used to do - get a caller on the line, let em talk long enough to say something dumb, cut them off so they can't reframe or clarify (assuming they were smart enough in the first place) then spend an hour portraying that call as representing everything about the Democrats/Left.** Still see it today on this board. Random idiots saying or doing dumb stuff and labelled as "This is the Democratic Party"**

Question - He talks about an illegal alien/Immigrant who has been deported having been processed by the legal system and determined he cannot stay in the country. At that point I have zero problem with anything he says - that person needs to leave the country. Period. At the least cost to the USA in removing him. . . . but Stephen Miller then goes on to claim that all the reporters and the Democrats want that individual to be able to stay in the USA .... What? .... who and where are the people claiming that the immigrants legally processed and determined they are to be deported should be allowed to stay? That's the BS part - I don't know of anyone. Maybe I missed a story and the individual is married to someone in the US or has kids here? Maybe people disagree with the decision? What am I missing .... Or is this just one more exmple of Trojan HHorse politics - a real issue attached to a BS story/statement? Flood the zone.

We sent him back to his own country. They don't want him free there, why would we want him anywhere here?

I do find it odd that several years ago when he faced deportation, his lawyers argued against it because he feared he would be murdered by rival gangs.

At any rate, we deported him. He was here illegally. If he is in the wrong place, he and his lawyers need to take that before the El Salvadore courts to determine. If he didn't do anything illegal in El Salvadore they can let him out to walk the streets of El Salvadore a free man. If he did engage in illegal activity, they can put him in any detention center they want.

Anybody in this country illegally is subject to deportation. That can't be debated. I don't support that as a black and white issue, but until we come up with a workable solution, it is what it is.

If he can't be free in his own country, I don't want him free in ours. That is why I mentioned Guantanamo.

Well said. I think we collectively need to stop pointing toward the idiots and then painting the other side with a broad brush. That has become very widespread because I think it makes each of us feel better about our own beliefs, inherently believing that the other side is stupid. I don't necessarily think these reporters fit that mold per se, but they are definitely not the brightest of the bunch like you say.

No doubt that once everybody is painted as a Nazi or Communist it is hard to have constructive dialogue.

You communists need to change your tune!!

See, you already lost me here. We're already seeing people deported w/o due process. He's not even meeting this extremely low bar.

The SCOTUS disagrees with you. They said to bring him back to the U.S. They disagree with trump and that load of crap Steven Miller spewed in that video as well.

And the SCOTUS voted 9-0. Every conservative judge agreed trump had to try and bring him back. For some reason these days people think their opinions mean more than a SCOTUS ruling. You seem to be one of those people. And no , his lawyers didn't say "rival gangs". The trump administration has refused to show any evidence this man was affiliated with a gang.

So do your feelings now mean more than the SCOTUS? Inquiring minds want to know. Because trump obviously disagrees with following the ruling of the highest court in the land.

What, in your mind, is "due process"?

Due process of law is a fundamental principle in the legal systems of many countries, ensuring fairness and impartiality in government actions that affect individuals. It guarantees that legal proceedings and government decisions are conducted according to established rules and principles, and that individuals are given a fair opportunity to be heard and defend their rights. Essentially, it's about ensuring that the government follows a fair process when it acts in a way that could impact an individual's life, liberty, or property.

Oobs, what due process is needed? If a person is here illegally, they can be deported without running through a court. If they get caught at the border, they go back. It doesn't matter if they are here 20 years, if they are illegal, they can be sent home.

For the record, I think we will need to find a way to allow the majority of illegal aliens to find a path for permanent status. What that status might be or how it would play out can be discussed, and should be discussed.

100% complete falsehood. Please show where SCOTUS ordered him returned to the US.

The SCOUTS said to facilitate his removal. We can't simply go in and pull the guy out of prison. If El Salvadore decides to let him go, I am sure we will send a plane to transport him to some US held facility. Be it in Maryland or be it in Cuba.

I won't say your home because that isn't realistic, plus, your home is in my state. I don't want him anywhere in my state.

Currently a person goes before a judge, evidence is presented, and a ruling is made. This should all happens in a (more or less) transparent manner PRIOR to deportation. A court has decide that a person should be guilty of being here illegally and rule that they should be deported.

This is probably overly-simplistic, but I am not a lawyer. In general, our justice system is set up that punishments can only happen AFTER the accuser (in this case, the Fed Govt) has PROVEN that the accused is guilty.


I'm just going to add... the fact that the argument has to fall back on trying to litigate things like due process (something that's already established and is a foundational part of our justice system) should be a clear red flag that something is very wrong here.

What in the world is the made up crap you're going to say it means to "facilitate his return"? And what measures has trump made to comply with that order? The order means trump is supposed to take active measures to make it easier and possible to get him back to the U.S. Thus far the trump administration has put forward zero evidence they have done anything of the sort.

So you don't want someone with a clean criminal record who works every day in your state. Got it.

Yet electing a man with 34 felony convictions is fine in your world. News flash. I don't want that convicted felon in my state.

This is absolutely not true. It is a legal process. If you want that type of process, laws need to be changed.

Abrego Garcia is the face of this whole 'willy-nilly-deportation-and-imprisonment' thing going on right now. While this is an example of one, the total lack of transparency in how folks were rounded up and sent away allows for a single mistake to question the process. If Homan could establish a legal process of doing this and then move to correct this mistake, you'd immediately have me back on board again.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...r-abrego-garcias-el-salvador-deportation

As these things tend to be, it's complicated... but I argue it's really not all that unclear once you get to the heart of the matter.

The Maryland guy was picked up a couple years ago. There was an accusation that he was MS-13, which was used to deny him bond. The court never actually decided if he was a gang-member, only that there was enough suspicion to deny bond.

This is NOT the same thing as a 'guilty' or determination that he was a gang member or committed any crime.

He later received an immigration protection (I don't now the particulars of this, so don't ask me). What I do know is that he was not eligible for deportation as long as that protection was in place. Trump admin designated MS13 as a terrorist org, and used that to deport a whole mess of people (including Abrego Garcia).

As I'm sure you see, the problem with all this is that AG was not actually found guilty of being a gang-member (or committing any crime), and therefore should've still been under that protection order.

His due process was violated. There have been other examples shown where gang-affiliation was incorrectly established using tattoos (I remember a soccer player with a tattoo of a popular team was mistakenly said to be in a gang because they confused the two tattoos).

Wasn't it a lower court that said this?

Maybe I wasn't clear. There is a hearing before a immigration judge. The deal with this guy is he already went through the process.

I do agree, we can't just pick people up and ship them somewhere else.

Yes it was. And the SCOTUS ordered that the trump administration help facilitate that this happens. Yet there has been zero evidence shown that anything of the sort is happening.

And that process placed him under protection. It allowed him to remain in the U.S and allowed for him to get a work permit. Until..... well, you know.

Yes. SCOTUS temporarily paused a district judge's order. Since they didn't outright reject it, the left is saying he was ordered home. Even politicians on the left are pounding their fists on podiums saying SCOTUS ordered him home.