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Re: More Browns News steve0255 12/21/24 11:25 AM
The real issue is the manipulation of the cap by Berry and the situation he has the Browns facing. Though it is true the cap number for Watson is $72,935,000 the next two seasons, people seem to forget the void years that were added by Berry to get his cap charge down the last 3 years. A pre June 1st cut would bring all that money due to the cap accountable and the price is $172,734,000. That's right my friends; Berry has manipulated the cap to the point where the Browns have only recorded paying Watson over the last 3 years a grand sum of $57,266,000. The Browns still have to account for 75.1% of Watson's fully guaranteed deal of which they have only recorded 24.9% the first 3 years.

Another player in that mess is Wills. Assuming that the Browns don't resign Wills, the Browns are still on the hook for $11,812,056 for deferred accounting of 4 void years on his deal. The Browns are accountable for that dead money in 2025 if Wills walks.

If the Browns decide to part with Conklin, his cut pre June 1st cost is now $14,471,000 on the 2025 books.

Letting Bitonio go leaves the Browns with a $14,532,000 cap charge in 2025.

Letting Teller go leaves the Browns with a $19,178,300 cap liability in 2025.

Just these 5 players alone carry a dead money cap hit of $232,727,356 in 2025 pre june 1st if the Browns decide to move on.

"Kicking the can down the road" is coming home to roost. Doesn't seem quite so brillant anymore, does it?

How dire is the situation? Right now, even with a $43,535,477 carryover from 2024, the Browns have a $336,149,072 cap liability and are projected to be $17,362,572 over the projected 2025 cap. BREAKING NEWS FOR GARRETT: Hard to build a winner now with no cash to do it. Wait, I know the answer, restructure Watson again - JUST KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD!
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Re: Trump’s Campaign Promises. The scoreboard. OCD 12/21/24 08:36 AM
Jc

My sincere hope is that one day, people will understand that the only constant is change. Life is a rollercoaster and it never goes backward. Learn to deal.
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Re: Republican Cra Cra Again Part.... Aw, who the hell can keep count... Ballpeen 12/21/24 07:20 AM
Like me, it doesn't seem you sleep all that well...lol

You are a musician. Maybe you have a side gig throwing down the cello notes in some ELO tribute band. No dis intended. Grab the green when you can for as long as you can.

I applaud that. My dad was a sax player. Before he settled on what he did, he did some sit in work with Harry James. Most don't know him, but you do. I have a couple of old 78's somewhere that he played on.
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Re: Stefanski and Berry Ballpeen 12/21/24 06:52 AM
I saw some article about Myles saying he wasn't interested in staying here to go through a rebuild. It's late, I am not going to go back and look for it to link, you can find it.

Getting old presents some sleep issues.
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Re: Music Thread #.... Oh hell, Iost count. Ballpeen 12/21/24 06:37 AM
If blues is the turn, then I like Walter Trout. He can bend the strings.

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Re: Buckeyes vs Tennessee Ballpeen 12/21/24 06:23 AM
Originally Posted by jfanent
I hope the other playoff games are better than this Indiana/ND snoozefest.

I agree. I was kind of hoping Indiana had something, but wasn't convinced. I had an uncle who was a professor at IU so I have some rooting interest.

As the announcers said, maybe strength of schedule has to play more of a part, and it probably will. This was the first year.

I make no bones, I am a SEC fan and root for SEC teams no matter which team, but Alabama would have made for a much better game.
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Re: Build That Wall or Elect Someone Who Will... pt 39 OCD 12/21/24 05:09 AM
DO you really know how many are “illegal” vs. not? I mean Trump sees them all the same, if they are not white, even when they’ve been naturalized… And his average number spewed in his speeches was 12-21 million ILLEGALS. I don’t believe that for a minute. So, don’t mind me for skipping the whole “are you seriously saying” game. Trump lies and your info comes from the same echo chamber. You, as a Trump supporter, are neither well informed nor correct in most of your FAUX NEWS POVs. And yes, I don’t think we have an immigrant problem so much as an idiot problem. But I’m willing to wait to see y’all figure that out. It is FAFO season in Trump country, and I’m here for it. Want me to send you a link when I start selling FAFO NATION tees? wink
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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 YTownBrownsFan 12/21/24 02:53 AM
Nice win for the Cavaliers tonight over a recently much improved Bucks team. The game was really never in question.

Also nice to see Strus back in action.
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Re: Cuckoo Dems - Part 8 MemphisBrownie 12/20/24 11:06 PM


Must've got the idea from watching Chris Farley and "Black Sheep".
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Re: Draft bonefish 12/20/24 10:08 PM
Only when quality is accurately defined.

Baker was number one and Lamar was 32nd.

The difference between the 5th pick and 15th pick who knows?

More picks in the first round gives you more chances at success.

What really counts is who is doing the drafting.
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Re: Ukraine dawglover05 12/20/24 07:50 PM
I actually think he has more power and influence doing what he currently does than any of the cabinet positions. Hell, he's actively influencing who gets appointed to cabinet roles and whipping for their approval as well.
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Re: Elon Musk PitDAWG 12/20/24 07:01 PM
Being a dictator by proxy doesn't make you any less of a dictator. Trump and Musk both threatened to primary any Republican who voted to pass the original bipartisan budget agreement. Musk even said he would help fund their opponents campaign to get them out of office.
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Re: Drones over the East coast oobernoober 12/20/24 04:47 PM
There's more than 1 way to knock a drone out of the air. I'm kinda surprised we haven't heard anything about someone sending up their own drone for a recon or kamikaze run.
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Re: Social Justice- We need to face some facts dawglover05 12/20/24 01:08 PM
1. DOGE has not come up with anything effective or thought out, at least yet. From an insider's perspective, what they are coming up with greatly misses the mark, is detrimental, and creates straw men. It also presents a conflict of interest where one of the chairs of DOGE is a government contractor.

2. DOGE can't enact anything. They are not the Government. Nor should they be. It would still take the votes of Congressional politicians to set forth anything DOGE recommends. If politicians threw their hands up in the air and said "We tried!" would, to me, be horribly concerning. That would completely cement the assertion I made earlier regarding corporate/oligarchic takeover of the Government. As of now, no politician can claim they can't do anything because of DOGE. I mean, seriously, that's a scary ass notion to ponder.

3. Regarding the earlier discussion on corporate takeover of the Government and when things reach a fever pitch for the citizens to call on Government takeover, BCBS recently attempted to cut off paying for the complete duration of anesthesia for a procedure:

https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/new...on-of-anesthesia-for-surgical-procedures

BCBS made, I believe, over $7B in net income in 2023, so the "hemorrhaging money" excuse really doesn't come into play. When you have stuff like this happening, you're not exactly spurring people to see the advantage of free market capitalism.

FYI, and I know I have mentioned his name a lot recently, but nothing like this happened in the pre-Jack Welch era.
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Re: Political Jokes Pt. 4 Squires 12/19/24 05:02 AM
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
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Re: NFLPA , NFL reach agreement on relaxed rules regarding substance abuse, performance enhancing substances OCD 12/19/24 02:03 AM
Yes and no. Fentanyl saves way more lives everyday than it destroys. I’ve had 5 surgeries over 19 months and in each one Fentanyl was used for anesthesia. So it’s both good and evil. Good in the right hands, evil on the streets, evil as a long term fix. And you should try THC tea for pain. PM me and I’ll give you the inside scoop if you want. How to make it. How to get high quality THCA diamonds source from hemp shipped to your door, and how to turn that into drink powder, thc sugar or tincture. One or two cups a day makes a world of difference. My neuropathy has moved to attacking my skin in places. It would drive me insane without this. But it reduces just about all my pain to zero or highly tolerable while still being able to function normally. Well, except for the occasional PP rant. wink
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Re: President Biden pardons son Hunter Biden weeks before White House exit PerfectSpiral 12/19/24 01:38 AM
A post may work better than TP.
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Re: Matt Gaitz withdraws as AG PerfectSpiral 12/18/24 09:52 PM
Anybody associated with transporting underage minors across state lines and having sex with them doesn’t wear either jersey.
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Re: Former FBI informant pleads guilty to lying about phony bribery scheme involving the Bidens PitDAWG 12/18/24 08:19 PM
Let me guess, "Russia, Russia, Russia"? That was a two part investigation of which one of the two turned out to be true.
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Re: Fantasy Football League GMdawg 12/18/24 10:20 AM
Take it easy on a old broken down guy this week *cough, cough* laugh
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool Dawgs4Life 12/17/24 05:14 PM
great week Bull
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Re: Bill Belichick named UNC Head Coach PitDAWG 12/16/24 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Bill is like a musician.

Once you have spent a lifetime playing. You cannot just stop.

His life has always been seasonal. This is what we do now. The regimentation of life in football. Yearly, monthly, weekly, and daily.

He can't help himself. That is what drives him.

I am glad that he is doing this.

While I don't doubt that's true it's almost like he went from selling out major sports stadiums back to playing in clubs. People are still listening but the demand for his music isn't near what it used to be.
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Re: Player News Continued oobernoober 12/16/24 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by steve0255
Originally Posted by bonefish
"Stefanski is in charge of our roster and therefore has the main responsibility for our results."

KS is not involved with roster decisions that decide who is on the team that is AB's job.

KS's job in the Browns organization is to coach the players on the roster. That includes all game day field decisions. Also, preparing the game plan and preparing the players for each week's game.

He is not mainly responsible for the results.

If the greatest head coach in history has a team without talent; they will not win many games.

If an average head coach has great talent; they will win games.

Look at the standings in the NFL divisions and the team records. What do you see?

You see teams with good quarterback play with the best records. Is that a coincidence?

I don't think so.


According to the NFL payout statistics, the Browns are paying out cash like everyone on the team is a star - are you saying they are not?

This phenomenon predates AB and KS by quite a bit.
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Re: Eotab Ballpeen 12/15/24 09:28 PM
Hey Eo....go Browns!
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Re: Photography thread BADdog 12/15/24 02:23 AM
You are supposed to walk down from one town to the other. I knew I wanted to end up at the same place. So I walked up half way with two girls I met there, they were from Finland. They continued up and I turned around and went back down by myself. I had a cab waiting . You could rent a cab for the day for $50
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