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Re: Draft PitDAWG 12/21/24 05:09 PM
That's fine. I don't think the numbers would be on your side. And yes, need will vary the draft board to a certain extent from team to team. But if there were any way to prove it, I bet as far as pure talent most teams GM's would be on board with the top 5 to 10 players to a huge extent. Well, I mean except AB that is.
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Re: Stefanski and Berry PitDAWG 12/21/24 05:02 PM
Myles Garrett Sends Bold Message To Cleveland Browns

The Browns star edge rusher expects to see the team's offseason plans before determining what's best for his future

On the other side of three meaningless regular season, an offseason of major questions awaits the Cleveland Browns.

That's not lost on star pass rusher Myles Garrett, who made it known last week that he wants to remain with the franchise for his entire career. And while that's still the case one week later, Garrett used his weekly press conference to send a strong message to the Browns brass as they start making plans for the future.

"First of all I want to win. And I want the Browns to be able to put me, and us in position to win," asserted the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. "And I'm not trying to rebuild, I'm trying to win right now. And I want that to be apparent when the season is over and we have those discussions, I want them to be able to illuminate that for me, illustrate that to me so that can be something I can see in the near future, because that's all we want to do."



Whatever general manager Andrew Berry has planned this offseason, his most pressing question centers around the future at quarterback. The Deshaun Watson experiment was derailed yet again, when the embattled QB suffered another season-ending injury. As he spends the offseason rehabbing from an Achilles tear, his status as Cleveland's No. 1 QB is clouded in uncertainty.

Jameis Winston admirably provided a spark for the Browns over the last seven games, taking the offense to a different gear than Watson did int he first seven. His continued propensity to turn the ball over, however, led to his benching this week in favor of Dorian-Thompson Robinson. The 2023 fifth-round pick now gets his chance to audition for the team's starting QB job.

Due to the nature of his contract, Watson is probably back on the roster in some capacity next season. Whether that be as a starter or a backup is very much a mystery to everyone. Whatever that QB room looks like next year, Garrett wants to see the plan.

"As uncertain as it is on the outside looking in, it's uncertain for us as well," admitted Garrett. "So whether DTR is the solution or someone else is, it's gotta be drawn out. There's gotta be a plan of action and just gotta know where things are going."

If Garrett doesn't get that plan from Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski, or if the organization decides to make sweeping changes with team brass, the 28-year-old could see a future where he's in a different uniform.

"It's a possibility," said Garrett. "But I wanna be a Cleveland Brown, I wanna play here, play my career here. But if we choose to do a rebuild, it's two or three or four years out. I wanna be able to compete and play at a high level, play meaningful games and be playing past January."

That doesn't mean that's the future Garrett wants. His loyalties remain with the Browns, who drafted him No. 1 overall in 2017. It all just comes down to the franchise presenting him with a vision for the future, and one that prioritizes winning.

"I'm gonna stay loyal to a team that showed loyalty to me and faith in my by drafting me," he said. "But we have to do, at the end of the day, what's best for us. So if we have that alignment where this is still something that's still possible in the near future: winning, going deep in the playoffs, putting a great defense out there, having a time of possession running game offense, getting all the guys back. I think that would really keep my mind at rest, keep me settled and not just mine, a lot of the guys on the defense, the d-line, around the team."

Garrett may be the only player with the cache to put pressure on the organization like he did on Friday. When he talks, people tend to listen. Whether or not those in charge of course correcting the franchise after a disastrous season listen this time around will play out in the months to come.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/myles-garrett-sends-bold-message-to-cleveland-browns

I can't say I blame him.
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Re: Cuckoo Dems - Part 8 PitDAWG 12/21/24 04:46 PM
And here you are once again looking to trash another thread by staring some back and forth battle. Biden's mental acuity or lack there of is something that happened over time. It wasn't done in an instant. You can look back the the 2020 debates to see that's true. It is true that I needed some sold evidence before I was willing to state that Biden had mental decline. You know, evidence? That thing you claim you need in order to make a determination?

I don't have a jersey. I have the lesser of two evils which I have stated over and over again for years now. I'm not the one here trying to act like a petulant child trying to start a fight.
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Re: Trump’s Campaign Promises. The scoreboard. FrankZ 12/21/24 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by OCD
That includes every visa that has expired too. It also includes naturalized citizens in Trumps mind. So, Elon might not realize that is what he is… the first poor person the denaturalize, dems will call for Melania’s and Elon’s deportation. Just to prove a point of course.

And what happens when they run out of brown people? Who’s next? Those at the top don’t ever know when enough is enough… we live in disturbingly interesting times. I’m actually beginning to feel Trump will kill the MAGA movement all by himself during these next four years. And I would still like to know if he SOLD his presidency to Elon. I’m thinking he did after the display of leadership this week. We’ll see how that goes. But they have definitely started an Oligarchic rule. FAFO Nation.

No.

You should get our of the screaming left echo chamber and take a breath.
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Re: Build That Wall or Elect Someone Who Will... pt 39 PitDAWG 12/21/24 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
Truth is these 20k Haitians are a teaspoon of water dropped into Lake Erie in the immigration picture.

You have lumped millions of people as all being the same. Calling them all uneducated peasants. Labeling them as though any such huge group of people are the same. It fits your agenda.

None of that is true. As with every group of people some are well educated. Most of them are hard workers with families. No matter how you slice it you take the worst possible examples you can find and use it as a platform to label an entire group of people.

If you wish try addressing this......................

Non violent crimes have statutes of limitations. Let's use a totally red state as an example.

Here are the only crimes in Alabama that do not have a statute of limitations.....

Capital offenses, or any crime causing death or serious physical injury, arson, forgery, counterfeiting, drug trafficking: none

All other felonies, except conversion of public revenues: five years; conversion of public revenues: six years.

Misdemeanors 12 months.

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/cr...te-criminal-statutes-of-limitations.html

Federal statute of limitations is generally 5 years.

So if an immigrant who came here illegally 10 tears ago or 5 years ago have committed no crimes since they came here do you think they too should be deported? Does crossing the border illegally rise to the level of a violent felony offense?

An actual thinking human being understands that you have done nothing but use a broad brush to paint millions of people as all being the same when clearly they're not. That you want to use the most extreme examples in order to do so. Now if you want to have a serious conversation about that we can start here. But I don't think you have any intention of doing that.

Many of these immigrants are hard working people with families. Combined they pay billions in taxes each year. I'm all for deporting people who have crossed the border that have committed felonies. I'm all for securing the border. Which the levels crossing now are very close to the same amount that were crossing when trump was president.

But what I'm not for is labeling many honest, hard working people that have followed our laws and worked here for years as uneducated peasants and lumping them all into one group as some criminal element. I know that's what you're used to. I know that's what you have grown to believe and or accept. But that's not the reality. There is a lot of room for some rational middle ground here. At least for rational people.
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Re: More Browns News bonefish 12/21/24 03:33 PM
I know everybody wants to hang the blame somewhere.

So the head coach and GM are the usual targets.

IMO Berry is about average as a GM. He has made some good moves and mistakes which is normal for a NFL GM.

I think KS is a good young head coach. No matter what happens here KS will continue as a head coach and do well if he has the talent.

No head coach can win without talent.
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Re: Ukraine hitt 12/21/24 01:50 PM
Amen, so the Uk are finally attacking apartment buildings, other structures....war coming to Russia.....welcome to Ukranian party they've suffered for years.

Wonder what the US population response would be if Putin has decided he wanted Alaska back, cuz Russia got screwed in the deal and attacked Alaska and our communities up there.....would America support Alaska.....I'd hope so. Putin is evil and Trump kisses his hands/ other places.....sad.
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Re: Social Justice- We need to face some facts hitt 12/21/24 01:13 PM
Perfect example of why we need term limits on all these guys and gals- I'll be naive- Washington never wanted to be a career politician, somewhere along the line our system turned from service in government FOR the people to one where I need to get elected and stay in Congress to gain power so my abstract concept of what is good thru my political party moves to the greater good.....BS, we need folks who can THINK and do best thing for country.....never happen. Power corrupts and Demo just showered their colors-- slide a pay raise in for the pigs at the barrel as the government is about to shutdown.....all the spending crap OUR politicans sneak in to bills is criminal.....but legal.

Raise the minimum wage- have a flat tax so Trump/ Elon pay their fair share, and watch CPS for sure- that is what is really important.
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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 bonefish 12/21/24 12:45 PM
They beat a good team and made it look easy.

I am a casual fan at best but when I have watched them play this year.

It has been fun. They seem very balanced and play a good all around game.

The NBA looks different to me than in the past. This is the first regular season where I have watched games in a long time.

Bombs away. In general the 3 point game is the standard.
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Re: Buckeyes vs Tennessee Jcamm 12/21/24 12:43 PM
I live in Grove City and the cold front is here 26 degrees at game time bundle up
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Re: Republican Cra Cra Again Part.... Aw, who the hell can keep count... Ballpeen 12/21/24 07:20 AM
Like me, it doesn't seem you sleep all that well...lol

You are a musician. Maybe you have a side gig throwing down the cello notes in some ELO tribute band. No dis intended. Grab the green when you can for as long as you can.

I applaud that. My dad was a sax player. Before he settled on what he did, he did some sit in work with Harry James. Most don't know him, but you do. I have a couple of old 78's somewhere that he played on.
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Re: Music Thread #.... Oh hell, Iost count. Ballpeen 12/21/24 06:37 AM
If blues is the turn, then I like Walter Trout. He can bend the strings.

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Re: Elon Musk PitDAWG 12/20/24 07:01 PM
Being a dictator by proxy doesn't make you any less of a dictator. Trump and Musk both threatened to primary any Republican who voted to pass the original bipartisan budget agreement. Musk even said he would help fund their opponents campaign to get them out of office.
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Re: Drones over the East coast oobernoober 12/20/24 04:47 PM
There's more than 1 way to knock a drone out of the air. I'm kinda surprised we haven't heard anything about someone sending up their own drone for a recon or kamikaze run.
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Re: Political Jokes Pt. 4 Squires 12/19/24 05:02 AM
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
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Re: NFLPA , NFL reach agreement on relaxed rules regarding substance abuse, performance enhancing substances OCD 12/19/24 02:03 AM
Yes and no. Fentanyl saves way more lives everyday than it destroys. I’ve had 5 surgeries over 19 months and in each one Fentanyl was used for anesthesia. So it’s both good and evil. Good in the right hands, evil on the streets, evil as a long term fix. And you should try THC tea for pain. PM me and I’ll give you the inside scoop if you want. How to make it. How to get high quality THCA diamonds source from hemp shipped to your door, and how to turn that into drink powder, thc sugar or tincture. One or two cups a day makes a world of difference. My neuropathy has moved to attacking my skin in places. It would drive me insane without this. But it reduces just about all my pain to zero or highly tolerable while still being able to function normally. Well, except for the occasional PP rant. wink
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Re: President Biden pardons son Hunter Biden weeks before White House exit PerfectSpiral 12/19/24 01:38 AM
A post may work better than TP.
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Re: Matt Gaitz withdraws as AG PerfectSpiral 12/18/24 09:52 PM
Anybody associated with transporting underage minors across state lines and having sex with them doesn’t wear either jersey.
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Re: Former FBI informant pleads guilty to lying about phony bribery scheme involving the Bidens PitDAWG 12/18/24 08:19 PM
Let me guess, "Russia, Russia, Russia"? That was a two part investigation of which one of the two turned out to be true.
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Re: Fantasy Football League GMdawg 12/18/24 10:20 AM
Take it easy on a old broken down guy this week *cough, cough* laugh
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool Dawgs4Life 12/17/24 05:14 PM
great week Bull
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Re: Bill Belichick named UNC Head Coach PitDAWG 12/16/24 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Bill is like a musician.

Once you have spent a lifetime playing. You cannot just stop.

His life has always been seasonal. This is what we do now. The regimentation of life in football. Yearly, monthly, weekly, and daily.

He can't help himself. That is what drives him.

I am glad that he is doing this.

While I don't doubt that's true it's almost like he went from selling out major sports stadiums back to playing in clubs. People are still listening but the demand for his music isn't near what it used to be.
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Re: Player News Continued oobernoober 12/16/24 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by steve0255
Originally Posted by bonefish
"Stefanski is in charge of our roster and therefore has the main responsibility for our results."

KS is not involved with roster decisions that decide who is on the team that is AB's job.

KS's job in the Browns organization is to coach the players on the roster. That includes all game day field decisions. Also, preparing the game plan and preparing the players for each week's game.

He is not mainly responsible for the results.

If the greatest head coach in history has a team without talent; they will not win many games.

If an average head coach has great talent; they will win games.

Look at the standings in the NFL divisions and the team records. What do you see?

You see teams with good quarterback play with the best records. Is that a coincidence?

I don't think so.


According to the NFL payout statistics, the Browns are paying out cash like everyone on the team is a star - are you saying they are not?

This phenomenon predates AB and KS by quite a bit.
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Re: Eotab Ballpeen 12/15/24 09:28 PM
Hey Eo....go Browns!
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Re: Photography thread BADdog 12/15/24 02:23 AM
You are supposed to walk down from one town to the other. I knew I wanted to end up at the same place. So I walked up half way with two girls I met there, they were from Finland. They continued up and I turned around and went back down by myself. I had a cab waiting . You could rent a cab for the day for $50
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