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Re: Iranian War FATE 03/07/26 03:38 PM
Somebody "defended" Russia's actions??

Go ahead and point out that post.
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Re: Russia Agrees to US Ukraine Security Demands PitDAWG 03/07/26 03:31 PM
It's really nothing more than a tip of the iceberg situation.

Putin is very smart and an excellent negotiator. His goal is to keep parts of Ukraine he took over in the war. He wants it on paper that Ukraine and the U.S. is giving it to him legally. This agreeing to Ukraine's future security, or what will be left of Ukraine after he gets his slice was simply an add on he was willing to give up in negotiations to begin with.

It gives him the leverage to say he negotiated in good faith by making concessions so it's time for the other side to capitulate. Any good negotiator asks for more than they really want to begin with. That applies from selling a car to ending a war.
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 03/07/26 03:23 PM
He chose to target three black democrats specifically. This isn't even a close call. At least I'm not using ignorance of the facts presented as my narrative. The only troll tactic being used here is yours. Sadly I think you know better than what you're posting here and don't even believe it yourself.
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 03/07/26 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
After 45 years, a week at this point isn't too long. Some people need to quit their beaching and jump back to the American side.

That's a very odd thing for you to say. Russia invaded Ukraine and trump's answer is to reward them with parts of Ukraine. Russia gives Iran intel through their satellite system to target our troops and not a peep from any of you. FATE is actually trying to play it off as if it's nothing to defend and downplay the actions of Russia. That sounds a lot like Russia's side. If that's what you call "The American side" have at it.

If you think the actions of trump always represent "the American side" I think you are sadly mistaken. Trump ran on no wars and spoke against regime change. Was he on America's side then or is he on America's side now. You people need to make up your minds. It can't be both.
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 03/07/26 03:04 PM
Some people learn better through visual aids so I thought that may help. It appears not to be the case.
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Re: Iranian War bonefish 03/07/26 02:56 PM
Life is precious.

Yet once again politicians decide that innocent people dying can somehow be justified in the year 2026.

Ukraine, Iran, the middle east.

The end game is unknown. Is anyone safer as innocent people are bombed to death?
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Re: Browns News 6.0 WSU Willie 03/07/26 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by WSU Willie
j/c

It's really remarkable that AB has survived the utter disaster that he had a huge hand in creating...while having more cash to spend then most GMs could only dream of. Let's overlook for the moment the fact that DW ended up being garbage....let's assume that he was just middle of the pack.

Look at what he would have around him. What was the plan to build around the quarter billion dollar man? The focus on AB's performance is always talked around the DW debacle. People decide to forgive him or hang him based on that trade and no one focuses on the overall roster that he has built since then.

Those willing to forgive and overlook the overall roster now tout his last draft...and he drafted some darn good players. But when you take a DT at #5 overall and a LB & RB at the top of the 2nd, you darn well BETTER have drafted a darn good DT/LB/RB. Premium picks on non-premium positions.

I want to see him draft a stud OT and WR. Those positions are difficult to project. I want to see him find a quality QB...all while appearing to at least have a plan for the other parts of the roster.

Six years in and I'm not holding my breath.

I would actually debate you over the OVERALL ROSTER statement.

QB room, I will fall on my sword, this debacle is a Haslem issue. Berry just had to deal with the fallout. If this was a Berry made situation, he would not still be employed.

O-Line, this is probably where I "blame" Berry the most. He knew about the injuries, he knew about the ages and yet all at once we have a catastrophic issue that culminated in a horrible 2025 and desperate 2026 off season.

WR, you can't say the guy hasn't tried. He has brought in draft picks (though he didn't have high draft picks at his disposal until last year thanks to Watson), trades and free agents. He's brought in Amari Cooper in his prime and Jerry Jeudy in his prime. I'm not entirely sure what else he could have done given circumstances.

I will argue once again the influence of Watson. He has been injured pretty much his entire tenure here. So my question is, knowing this going into the past two seasons, would you have rather he didn't fortify the defense and draft offense last year with those first two picks? I think it ended up being wise to get the best bang for the buck with those two first rounders, rather than reaching for an offensive piece.

Let's look at what that could have looked like:
At #2 overall:
Travis Hunter, He has already gone through an injury riddled season and designated a defensive player moving forward
Will Campbell, He has already gone through an injury riddles season, then after his poor performance in the post season, there is much speculation he will be moved to guard to try to salvage him.
At #5 overall:
Ashton Jeanty, He averaged 3.7 ypc and had 5 TDs.. We got our RB in the second round and as a rookie he averaged 3.6 ypc and had 7 TDs... I'm ok
Armond Membou, right tackle in the top ten. I'll give him props, he started every snap and only had 8 penalties called on him as a rookie. Other than that, I can't argue a RT over a DT in this pick
Tet McMillan, Probably the best argument for missed opportunity, however, I would argue with Flacco/Gabriel/Sanders combo, he would not have been ORoY, Bryce Young enjoyed his best season as a Pro, but that actually could have been a product of drafting Tet...

I argued for Tet McMillan last year and I have also said my piece on drafting Carnell Tate this year.

Now let's look at #33:
Carson Schwessinger is the reigning DRoY
Missed out on Jayden Higgins.. that's where the list ends. Again, I'm good...

#35 drafted Judkins, which again had similar numbers to Jeanty in a limited season due to "almost suspension", missed game 1 and injuries. I liked what I saw when he was i there despite the offensive line play.

So, my argument lies in, where did Berry go wrong so far with this roster?

We are good at TE, we are good at every position on defense. Again, under the notion that you can't fill every position with an All Pro... no team in history has done that. Can we improve some, what team can't? But, Berry has put this OVERALL ROSTER in a position to succeed in 2027, sooner if Sanders can make a huge leap this off season or if Watson decides to look like an NFL QB again. If neither step up, then we could be in position to get one of the QBs coming out in 2027, which it is my opinion there will be at least 4 worthy of early first round consideration. Much different than the past two drafts.

I'm not posting with issues over the players AB selected in the last draft...my issue is that I'm not thinking he's turned the corner simply because he got it 'right' by selecting non-premium positions with premium picks. He picked the lowest hanging fruit he could find.

You mentioned that AB has at least 'tried' to improve at WR. Sort of my point...he has tried and he has failed. We still have a room full of ??? The OL issues are glaringly obvious. The QB situation is worse.

I don't have any faith that the guy who led us here is the guy to lead us out of here...and after six years of work.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Homewood Dog 03/07/26 02:19 PM
Honestly, I don't care who plays QB for us I just want to win. I'd like to see DW in the rear-view mirror, but he is under contract for another year and if he gives us the best chance to win so be it. We all have to deal with things in life we don't like but sometimes you have no choice. Our beloved Browns may have too also.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 IrishDawg42 03/07/26 01:53 PM
I think the majority of fans at least have doubts about Shedeur. Most of us pretty much believe there has to be an upgrade coming in the very near future.

These are my thoughts:
Shedeur had a following like no other 5th rounder pick, maybe ever. Haslem would love to cash in on that IF Sanders can prove us all wrong. Hell, I would love it too because we would finally have a QB.

Anyone that has faith that Deshaun is going to wake up matured and ready to become the QB everyone thought they were getting is probably also going to be disappointed. I wish the guy would never show his face again… but there is a part of me that just wants to win some games and be relevant come playoff time. Regardless, if it’s him, we are looking at a QB in the 2017 draft. I have my huge doubts for one reason only, I think Watson is a piece of crap. I said it when the trade went down and he hasn’t done anything to change my mind. He quit on his team in Houston, he came out and said he didn’t want to go to Cleveland. $230M guaranteed changed his mind to live here temporarily, but it also gave him retirement money. He doesn’t care about the game and if he did get ANY inkling of guilt these last few years, that all went away when Haslem called him a Big swing and a miss. There is no way this guy is putting effort in for this team or owner. The only saving grace for Watson is that he is now playing for yet another contract. So, one of two things is going to happen in my mind. Either he won’t be a part of this open competition in reality and they do bring in another veteran in some small way or Watson could play now for that next contract. I think he’s content riding this season out to get healthy, then take on a veteran minimum price it year somewhere else in 2027 to try to get that final contract. Watson has no future here, I would rather stash him in a closet.

Richardson is intriguing in the fact I valued him as a mid rounder when he came out, he now has some experience and it will only take a mid rounder to see if Monken can do anything with him. I did have him rated higher than Sanders coming out of college, so I think it would be a better competition.

At the end of the day, I personally feel like this is an exercise in futility just to get us through the 2026 season so we can look for the next possible QB in 2027. Might as well have some fun with it and also build a team that will be ready for a good QB to step in and take it over.

Obviously in my opinion, there will be a minimum of 4 QBs available in the 2027 draft that are better than anything currently on the roster, or available via free agency, a trade or in the 2026 draft. There may be more than 4, but with today’s money they get in college, some may opt to stay and improve their draft position for 2028.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/07/26 12:53 PM
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. Some people need to quit their beaching and jump back to the American side.


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. Just my opinion Peen .... But this comment shows you just how much you've been groomed and conditioned how to think. The idea that it's Un-American to question the legality of this war and what it means, asking hard questions somehow puta you on the other side? That is just so wrong on so many levels.

You said one week. You're absolutely in cloud Cuckoo land. This thing is going to be going on in 6 months time. And longer.
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Re: Iranian War Damanshot 03/07/26 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by hitt
Hell, for a guy who ran on NO MORE FORIEGN WARS- killing bad guys in Caribbean, killing in Pacific, killing in Venezuela, killing in Gaza, killing in Iran, on and on and on.....reminds me of Country Joe and the Fish song--" Whooppee We're All Going to Die". Trump, the businessman reminds me of Robert McNamara, the businessman who was so smart he thought his business way of winning the Vietnam War was brilliant. Trump is the smartest man in the White House ever, just ask him....God knows who we will start killing next. Peace.

Country Joe and the Fish,,,,,,, Epic

There is a time and place for Business execs.. Business can be kinda cold. Has to be. But in Government, by the people for the people isn't the same. We pay taxes for the government to help us, not own us.
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Re: Russia Agrees to US Ukraine Security Demands Damanshot 03/07/26 12:36 PM
Putin is much like Trump.. What ever is to his advantage at the moment.. I bet Putin will change his mind.....
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Re: Browns News 6.0 bonefish 03/07/26 11:52 AM
The situation at quarterback can go in so many different directions at this point.

Monken made it clear. "Why wouldn't this be an open competition there is so little game film?"

Free agency and the draft will set up who will compete.

Murray, Gino Smith, Cousins, Willis are all vets that could be brought in.

They will also look hard at Ty Simpson.

If they trade back in the draft then 2027 comes into play as an option for a franchise guy in the future.

It all depends on what is decided by Berry and Monken.

There are plenty of options in consideration.
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Re: Iranian War Ballpeen 03/07/26 11:02 AM
It seems people forget we have been dealing with the Iranian problem for over 45 years. I am glad we finally took the position that enough is enough.

I am glad we are taking the position to put an end to it once and for all. This is far better than releasing tens of $billions back to them. That was idiotic.

After 45 years, a week at this point isn't too long. Some people need to quit their beaching and jump back to the American side.

To add, I was just clicking.
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Re: Falcons Fire DL Coach They Just Hired This Month .... Ballpeen 03/07/26 10:52 AM
To many issues to keep the guy around. Especially a new hire to the staff. It shouldn't be very hard to find a new DL coach at this point.
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Re: Player News Ballpeen 03/07/26 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by hitt
Read article about Browns interest in RICHARDSON, QB, COLTS- please no, how a guy gets drafted FOURTH with 13 starts total and losing record in college is beyond me. At 23, he's had eye, shoulder, and other injuries- ie, he can't stay healthy with his style play. PLEASE, we have enough projects at QB.

I don't know. A trade for Richardson seem reasonable. I wouldn't mind trading maybe a 4th rounder for the guy.

He is right at the point in his career where other QB's have found their footing.

I like Dillon Gabriel, but who would you rather have, Gabriel or Richardson?
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/07/26 09:08 AM
Not sure what all the tit-for-tat is about Russia helping Iran. I can't work out if you are arguing or agreeing.

Iran supplies/supplied Russia with lots of drones in their war against Russia. Iran is one of Russia's top allies along with Belarus, China, India, and North Korea. Of course they are going to help Iran kill Americans. Based on history ... Putin will probably tell Trump that it's not true and based on Ukraine talks and the 2016 election, Trump will believe him over his own US intelligence community.

What I think are some of the bigger issues -

1. The war is illegal based on international law. Maybe that's not a big deal to some but I think it matters. From the web - Winston Churchill, along with U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, initiated the foundational principles of the United Nations through the Atlantic Charter in August 1941, four years before the war ended. This joint declaration outlined a postwar world of international cooperation and self-determination, serving as the blueprint for the formal UN Charter signed in June 1945 --- this has been the basis of peace for 80 years. What trump (and Israel) are doing undermines this and makes the world less safe. Like the actions taken against Venezuela - it empowers Russia with former territories USSR. It empowers China with Taiwan. It breeds future hatred of the West by Iran.

2. This is a war of choice. There is no compelling reason to go to war with Iran. There is no imminent threat.Iran being bad actors is not a justifiable reason to go to war. After Venezuela I looked up how many dictatorships there are in the world. It's nearly 100. You want to go regime change all of them? Madness.

3. We did this with Iraq - it was a disaster that made the world LESS safe than it was before we went in. Thinking democracy and a stable country and government will spawn from reigning death and destruction from the skies is lunacy. Apparently the European leaders are more acutely aware of recent history and what a disaster Iraq was than the US. "you break it you own it" ... what follows is all on the USA and Israel. Anyone thinking this is going to have a positive ending is deluding themselves. Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan - all examples of the USA trying to police the world and failing miserably. And all of those examples were carried out by administrations that were more thoughtful and strategic than the idiot currently in the WH.

4. Iran - a country of 90 million - is unlikely to capitulate. Who knows how long or how many deaths will result from this war of choice. US personnel, allies, Iranians. . . I see the usual fake Christian cheering this action on. 75 thousand deaths of mostly innocent women and children in Gaza wasn't enough to satisfy their blood lust.. so on to Iran.

5. How many refugees and asylum seekers is the USA willing to take after we've bombed cities and displaced mass parts of the population? None. But it will create another humanitarian crisis in the middle east and across Europe. Just wait for the numbers of assylum seekers to sky rocket as they flee a country being ravaged by war. And then listen to all the right win politicians talk about how countries should keep them out. Hell we already have Trump and Vance criticising EU countries for their immigration policies. Just a little ironic how the USA is going to create 100,000's more for the region to deal with.


I'll ask again - what does success look like? In a month from now. A year? 5 years? .... what other countries do you want to add to the list where you support Americans implementing regime change?
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Re: Player News DaveyD 03/07/26 02:34 AM
Like the Ravens giving up 2 first rounders but getting Maxx Crosby at 28 years old kinda sucks, especially with our non existent O-Line.
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Re: Player News Milk Man 03/07/26 02:25 AM
j/c...

Big trade. Not a fan of seeing Crosby go to the Ravens.

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Re: Russia Agrees to US Ukraine Security Demands hitt 03/07/26 01:34 AM
According to a CNN analysis, Trump made statements about ending the war in 24 hours (or shortly after election) at least 53 times. BUT, as soon as he was elected, he backpedaled and stated "could be little optimistic"--- we be in his second year and holding our breath. Classic Trump- say anything, do anything- get in power/ nothing else matters.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 FATE 03/07/26 01:32 AM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
This is Sanders team to lose. They brought the kid into the facility on Monkens first day… he was the only player in the building and he was there to see Monken. Sanders is your QB for 2026…

Just clipping this from the convo because I have a couple questions (for anyone, really).

I can't argue with any of that. I really, really don't think Shedeur is "the one", but he's worked hard and improved. The NFL is ruthless, so me even implying he's "earned" anything is strictly fan talk; the league and this FO owe him nothing. And "improved" is not on the scale you would normally expect from a fQB. After an off-season, the bad habits we've made excuses for have to be way further in the rear view come TC.

With all that said, I really don't see how this plays out when the players hit the practice field. If Shedeur is not handed the job, then others have a chance to compete. If others compete and look better, how is Shedeur a shoo-in?

Now the real question... if Deshaun Watson is given any chance to compete, and looks the part, can anyone put lipstick on that pig (the situation) and say with a straight face "everything will work itself out"?

This scenario sounds like a first-class $h*tshow, and I'm starting to think it's almost inevitable.
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Re: Iranian War hitt 03/07/26 01:25 AM
Hell, for a guy who ran on NO MORE FORIEGN WARS- killing bad guys in Caribbean, killing in Pacific, killing in Venezuela, killing in Gaza, killing in Iran, on and on and on.....reminds me of Country Joe and the Fish song--" Whooppee We're All Going to Die". Trump, the businessman reminds me of Robert McNamara, the businessman who was so smart he thought his business way of winning the Vietnam War was brilliant. Trump is the smartest man in the White House ever, just ask him....God knows who we will start killing next. Peace.
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Re: Padel Tennis? lampdogg 03/07/26 12:56 AM
Never heard of it. I played tennis for many years but as I got older I became tired of chasing that fuzzy little ball around the court.

Pickleball is a blast
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Re: Iranian War FATE 03/07/26 12:46 AM
Like FOR REAL?

Wow. Say it isn't so.

I'll keep shaking my head, hoping this doesn't end up being "the same situation in reverse", whatever that means.

BTW, who told you Trump and his people are "so damn stupid" they don't know Russia may retaliate? Your dog or Rosie O'Donnell??
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Re: Browns News 6.0 IrishDawg42 03/07/26 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Just stop already. The O is putrid. Jeudy looked good with better WR's around him. Yet another swing and a miss trying to land a #1 WR. The closest they came was Amari Cooper and even then he was available because Dallas made an upgrade to replace him. And at the very least you forgot to include QB on your list.

You listed............

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LT
C
RG
WR
MAYBE LG

Then another WR or TE or FB, depending on the formation.

When you add QB to that list that's a total of 9 players needed on O.

You were saying?

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That would be more than most GMs manage to do in their career

If that were even close to true they weren't NFL GM's for very long. They surely never held that job on the same team for six years.

You come up with a lot of good counterpoints on this board. This isn't one of them.

We aren’t disagreeing that the O is putrid, we are disagreeing that it can’t make a huge leap this off season. I did bring up the QB, and said it would be dependent on who wins the starting job to utilize those additions. Presumably, imho, Sanders is the only one that could make a difference, but I have serious doubts about it. I more expect the QB addition to come in 2027.

Still, Jeudy, Judkins, Fannin and Howard make 7 needs with the QB, not 8 without QB. Again, everyone needs to get used to the fact they are going to give Sanders every chance to win or lose the job. If Watson looks like the old Watson, that might upset the apple cart, but I highly doubt it. This is Sanders team to lose. They brought the kid into the facility on Monkens first day… he was the only player in the building and he was there to see Monken. Sanders is your QB for 2026…

So we are back to needing 6 starters this off season:

LT
LG
C
RG
WR

And one of either WR, TE or RB depending on the formation. If Bitonio comes back, we are down to 5.

It’s simple math, not rocket science.
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