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I didn't say it wasn't an issue. Pay closer attention next time.

I think it pales in comparison to far more serious issues.

You must have forgotten the old adage........... Coulda, shoulda, woulda didn't.

Sure you can make up a scenario of "But what if" all you like. It's become quite popular.

I think we could be in for a lot of QB turmoil in 2026..If we aren't then we are playoff contenders, which will put a smile on all of our faces.

IF Sanders is not worthy of being the franchise guy, I hope upon hopes he plays well enough to garner some trade talk before the deadline to help in the search for the next guy.

I agree 100% that Watson does nothing for the future of the team, so I would rather he just fade into the sunset. If he doesn't get the starting nod off go, he will retreat into a world of how Cleveland didn't use him the right way and he will start campaigning for the off season. Either way, Sanders starting helps determine the future of this team. If he remains looking like a rookie lost in space, they will be losing, which puts them in position to win in the QB market of the draft. If he takes big strides, then the team is positioned for the playoffs and they can start playing games deep into January. If he can prove that he can win a playoff game in the 2026 season, we can start to quell the talk of QB in the draft. If he is playing just well enough that he looks half way decent, but they are still losing, he might be able to garner a 4th round pick in the draft which also helps the cause. Then if he is traded, Watson can come in if he doesn't implode, or we can throw Gabriel and Green in there to finish the season on a learning note.

Right now, I want to win, no matter what that means. I don't trust Watson to win, so I am on the train of thought to give Sanders every opportunity to prove himself.


Would it be an issue if he kills someone? Driving that erratically is a public nuisance. I love Myles Garrett the player and even his personality off the field, but it IS an issue that could have dire results if he doesn't clean it up. I don't put it on the same level of sexual predator, but I do put it on a similar level as domestic violence. He is putting human life in harms way negligently.

I'm not dancing on his Browns grave by any means, I'm just not dismissing some peoples point of view on the matter.

Lions' Terrion Arnold arrested, faces kidnapping, robbery charges

Detroit Lions cornerback Terrion Arnold is facing multiple felony charges after he was arrested Wednesday in Tampa, Florida, in connection with a robbery and kidnapping in early February.

Tampa police previously arrested six other individuals involved in a targeted armed robbery that took place shortly after midnight on Feb. 4, during which three men were pistol-whipped, held at gunpoint and robbed, according to police.

Police say Arnold was the primary conspirator. He is accused of "coordinating and directing the codefendants" to lure the three men to an apartment where the assault occurred, according to a release from the state attorney's office.

Arnold turned himself in and was taken into custody at Orient Road Jail in Hillsborough County on Wednesday night. He faces four counts of kidnapping and four counts of armed robbery, which carry a potential sentence of life in prison. He is scheduled to appear in Hillsborough County court Thursday afternoon.

The state attorney's office said it would file a pretrial motion to keep Arnold in jail until trial. A date for that hearing has not been set.

According to the police investigation, the incident began after personal property belonging to Arnold and others was stolen Feb. 1 from an Airbnb that Arnold rented in Largo, Florida, and periodically stayed at with the six codefendants -- Arianna Del Valle, Jasmine Randazzo, Lyndell Hudson, Christion Williams, Boakai Hilton and Freddie Lee Hughes III -- and other friends.

Arnold, Hilton, Hughes and another individual reported property loss totaling more than $250,000 to the Largo Police Department on Feb. 3. Arnold, according to Tampa police, suspected that two of the three victims in the kidnapping case were responsible for the Airbnb robbery, but investigators later determined they were not involved.

The state attorney's office, in its release, accused Arnold of "orchestrating the kidnapping and robbery just hours after reporting the missing items to the Largo Police Department." Investigators said they located a group chat in which Arnold and Hilton reportedly gave directions to Del Valle, Williams and Hudson during the assault at the apartment.

Two of the codefendants in the case have pleaded guilty and the other four are being held without bond, according to the Hillsborough County State Attorney's Office.

In a statement Wednesday, Denise White, CEO of EAG Sports Management, said Arnold "categorically denies any involvement in the matters underlying the allegations made against him and maintains his innocence. There is no credible evidence linking Mr. Arnold to these allegations. Instead, the government appears to be relying on testimony from multiple convicted felons who have admitted their own involvement and may have substantial incentives to shift blame in an effort to lessen their sentences.

"Mr. Arnold looks forward to his day in court and is confident that the judicial process will lead to his ultimate vindication."

The Lions, in a statement, said they were aware of the situation but declined to comment "out of respect for the ongoing legal process."

Arnold was approached by reporters about the off-field incident during the Lions' veteran minicamp June 17 and declined to comment, saying he just wanted to "focus on football" while coming off a season-ending shoulder surgery.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-felony-charges-kidnapping-armed-robbery

See! More lawfare by Trump and his buddy Todd Blanche! It's like you're blind and can't see what's right in front of your face!

I think it pales in comparison to far more serious issues. I mean we have a guy who they paid a huge sum and gambled their future drafts for who is a sexual predator. So no, you'll have to excuse me if I'm not going to be up in arms over speeding tickets.

Why would someone think it's an issue because one of the best players in the league, after playing 9 seasons for this disaster of an organization, that even its own fans are frustrated with wanted to be traded to a winning team? How many more seasons do you think he has to play at this level? This FO still doesn't have a QB after all this time and even if they draft one next year it would be a minimum of two more seasons before the Browns could ever contend. Speaking only for myself I don't blame him.

I think people are pointing their finger in the wrong direction here. But it's not unusual for fans to love a guy when he's here and then give him hell as soon as he's gone.

I'm glad Joe Thomas stayed here his entire career and retired as a Brown. But he didn't owe that to anyone and if he had wanted to be traded I wouldn't have blamed him either.

This will be interesting to watch over the next couple of years between moderate democrats and the younger socialist-leaning members. It has been trending in a negative direction already but now more and more of these younger socialists are winning seats and positions across governments--federal, state, and local municipalities.



Here is a good example-- Darializa Avila Chevalier, the Democratic nominee for Congress in New York's 13th Congressional District, was identified as the co-founder of the campus group Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD), which stated in a 2024 social media post that it was "fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization". She has also quoted many Marxist slogans:

"Seize the means of production" — A direct quote from a deleted post she published using the fundamental slogan of Marxism and communism."Seize all properties from landlords" — Part of her broader rhetoric advocating for the nationalization of housing and private real estate.

She clarified her position on defunding the police by stating her goal "means ending policing full stop. Period. No more police at all ever," while advocating for a "world without prisons."

This isn't a democratic socialist. Using the word democratic is putting lipstick on a very ugly pig. She is wavering between socialism and communism and there is a growing population of younger Americans who are subscribing to this dangerous ideology.

Anecdotally, I work with someone who is a self-described "Leninist" and believes in the Leninism ideology associated with Communism. It's unbelievable to hear the things this person subscribes to regarding one-party government control as if it is the answer to all the world's issues. Absolutely, asinine.

At first I thought Monken should play the QB who looked the best in preseason who gave us the best chance to win but really if it’s Watson it doesn’t do us much good. I feel we should play Shedeur if nothing else just to see what he can do. Watson will be gone after this season and we have to see what Shedeur can do so we can determine the teams future direction.

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/breaking-exclusive-north-texas-antifa

Oh, memories.......

Now that this trade is in the books.

It appears that the timing was right all things considered. Not an easy move but probably the right move.

The Browns are rebuilding. They want the roster to match an age profile. Verse fits. Myles does not.

Playing DW is nothing more than putting lipstick on an aging face. If he starts IMO Shedeur will not remain on the team very long.

Unless DW ends up on the bench and Shedeur proves he is worth keeping.

Personally I have no desire to watch DW at all. I see no point in him playing.

I see that as more a function of the individual retailors selling the gas at the pump. Just because you see an Exxon sign on the road doesn't mean that location is owned by Exxon. It's also a function of having to get it on the way up because they will lose on the way down. If an owner has 10,000 gallons in the ground at an average cost of $2.00 per gallon and the price drops to $1.00 a gallon, they can't just drop the price to reflect overnight without taking a substantial loss. They have to slow step it down as new shipments beging to bring the average cost in the ground down.

Oil is based on commodity pricing. The oil companies sell based on a fixed gross profit percentage. Net profits are going to be higher but as a percentage the gross profit pretty much stays the same. It just that more money gets passed through the controllable part of the P&L to the net profit line.

Good thing we traded Myles. It sounds like he could have developed into a problem!!😉

No doubt it is reckless behavior that is a pattern. It's not like he passed a cop having a bad day who was writing tickets for going 79 downhill in a 70 zone.

The SPLC pays for the hate to get keep themselves relevant. What a joke and anyone who follows them are a joke.

That's only one particular angle. Other factors would be other MG issues regarding wanting to be traded. And another is that the team is rebuilding.

But - if we simply want to focus on speeding tickets - tell me how this is not a consistent pattern of behavior not to be concerned over: (from the web)

Myles Garrett has received at least nine speeding tickets and citations in Ohio since being drafted by the Cleveland Browns in 2017. While he has been cited for speeds reaching up to 120 mph, his most notable instances and documented tickets include:

February 21, 2026: Clocked going 94 mph in a 70-mph zone on Interstate 71 in Wayne County at 1:35 a.m. Bodycam footage revealed he was originally driving over 100 mph, but the deputy reduced the cited speed to 94 to avoid a mandatory court appearance. He paid a $157.50 fine.

August 9, 2025: Cited for driving 100 mph in a 60-mph zone in the Cleveland suburb of Strongsville. This stop happened early on a Saturday morning as he was returning from a preseason road game against the Carolina Panthers. It resulted in a $250 fine.

September 26, 2022: Involved in a high-profile, single-car rollover crash in Medina County. His Porsche went off the road, took out a fire hydrant, and flipped multiple times. He suffered shoulder and biceps sprains and was cited for failure to control his vehicle due to unsafe speeds (driving 65 mph on a 45-mph road). ((65mph!! LOL)

September 2021: Stopped twice in a 24-hour span on Interstate 71 for extreme speeds. He was clocked going 120 mph on one day, and 105 mph the very next day, resulting in combined fines of $554.