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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach Day of the Dawg 02/14/26 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Do you have any quotes to back up those rumors or just basing it on here say alone? "Some guy said" isn't quite enough to state something as a fact. At least not for most people.

Once again I never made a comment about who they hired. Sometimes your imagination runs away with you. I said the coaching staff in terms of the HC and ST's coach paid the price for a GM that gave them a terrible roster and he still has his job. If both the GM and HC had been fired I would have been fine with it. But as it turns out many times, the coaching staff paid the price for a GM's weaknesses.

Just ask the Titans, Vrabel and the Patriots how that worked out for them. I'm not sure why people watch the same movie over and over again and still can't figure out the plot.

I don't disagree with you Andrew Berry should have been fired. I agree.
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Re: ICE Continued oobernoober 02/13/26 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by BADdog
It should be a law a federal employee cannot shoot into a closed door. notallthere

Debatable....

What's not debatable is that someone cannot lie when giving sworn testimony. ICE agents are being deployed like they're a goon squad, and we're seeing behavior in line with that.
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Re: ICE Continued PitDAWG 02/13/26 08:38 PM
How else will they get all of those "Bad Hombres"?
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach PitDAWG 02/13/26 08:22 PM
Do you have any quotes to back up those rumors or just basing it on here say alone? "Some guy said" isn't quite enough to state something as a fact. At least not for most people.

Once again I never made a comment about who they hired. Sometimes your imagination runs away with you. I said the coaching staff in terms of the HC and ST's coach paid the price for a GM that gave them a terrible roster and he still has his job. If both the GM and HC had been fired I would have been fine with it. But as it turns out many times, the coaching staff paid the price for a GM's weaknesses.

Just ask the Titans, Vrabel and the Patriots how that worked out for them. I'm not sure why people watch the same movie over and over again and still can't figure out the plot.
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Re: ICE Continued BADdog 02/13/26 08:21 PM
It should be a law a federal employee cannot shoot into a closed door. notallthere
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 02/13/26 08:16 PM
Mark Kelly Records Video Telling Bartenders They Are Allowed to Refuse Hegseth's Orders

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Senator Mark Kelly released a new online video on Thursday reminding the nation’s bartenders that they are allowed to refuse Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s orders.

Staring stonily into the camera, the former astronaut warned that, if Hegseth appears to be above the legal blood-alcohol limit, any additional drink request would constitute an illegal order.

“Our laws are clear: you can refuse illegal orders,” he told the bartenders. “You must refuse illegal orders.”

Kelly concluded the video with one final urgent plea to the mixologists: "If Hegseth’s behavior is belligerent, his words are slurred, and his makeup is smeared, you must refuse his orders."

https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/ma...xZetOFFy6ojkb_aem_jJqnqXTsXe6rns-u0dFehQ

Upon seeing the video Hegseth immediately contacted Pam Bondi requesting she immediately convene a grand jury over statements made in the video.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach Day of the Dawg 02/13/26 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Could you please translate that into English?

I suppose you couldn't possibly fathom that it was this FO and owner who called him in to be interviewed for the HC position. As they do with all people they interview for coaching positions. All he did was take the interview. notallthere

The media in the building said he told his staff if he does not get the head coaching job he is out and not coming back. He wanted the job. The Browns wanted him as DC. I do not dislike the hire they made at coach. Two things can be possible at the same time. I felt Schwartz performance deserved the promotion and am disappointed he did not get the job. That said I think they did hire a football guy that has won and had good offenses everywhere he has been. But to say Schwartz did not want to stay because of the FO is incorrect. He would have stayed with this FO if he would have got the Head Coaching job. He was upset and rightfully so that he did not get the promotion he deserved. He did a great job in Cleveland.
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Re: ICE Continued PitDAWG 02/13/26 07:52 PM
ICE caught lying...... again........

Feds investigating whether 2 ICE officers lied about the shooting of a Venezuelan man in Minneapolis

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Federal authorities have opened a criminal probe into whether two immigration officers lied under oath about the shooting of a Venezuelan man in Minneapolis last month.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Todd Lyons said Friday that his agency had opened a joint probe with the Justice Department after video evidence revealed “sworn testimony provided by two separate officers appears to have made untruthful statements.” The announcement came as a federal judge ordered all charges dropped against Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis, who was shot in the leg by an immigration officer, as well as another Venezuelan man, Alfredo Alejandro Aljorna.

The officers, who were not named, have been placed on administrative leave pending the completion of an internal investigation, he said.

“Lying under oath is a serious federal offense,” said Lyons, adding that the U.S. Attorney’s Office is actively investigating.

Lyons said at the conclusion of the investigation, the officers may face termination of employment, as well as potential criminal prosecution.

“The men and women of ICE are entrusted with upholding the rule of law and are held to the highest standards of professionalism, integrity, and ethical conduct,” Lyons said. “Violations of this sacred sworn oath will not be tolerated. ICE remains fully committed to transparency, accountability, and the fair enforcement of our nation’s immigration laws.”

The dismissal of the charges against Aljorna and Sosa-Celis follows a string of high-profile shootings involving federal immigration agents in which eyewitness statements and video evidence have called into question claims made to justify using deadly force. Dozens of felony cases against protesters accused of assaulting or impeding federal officers have also crumbled.

In a highly unusual motion to dismiss filed Thursday, U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota Daniel N. Rosen said “newly discovered evidence” was “materially inconsistent with the allegations” made against Aljorna and Sosa-Celis in a criminal complaint and at a hearing last month.


U.S. District Court Judge Paul A. Magnuson dismissed the case with prejudice, meaning the charges cannot be resubmitted.

A lawyer for Aljorna and Sosa-Celis said Friday that they are “overjoyed” that all the charges have been dismissed. Had they been convicted, the two immigrants would have faced years in federal prison.

“The charges against them were based on lies by an ICE agent who recklessly shot into their home through a closed door,” said attorney Brian D. Clark. “They are so happy justice is being served.”

It is unclear whether the men could still be deported.

https://apnews.com/article/immigrat...n3SFakETC46gG_aem_QPVezVQcOdBQYvviBy1iQQ
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach PitDAWG 02/13/26 07:39 PM
Could you please translate that into English?

I suppose you couldn't possibly fathom that it was this FO and owner who called him in to be interviewed for the HC position. As they do with all people they interview for coaching positions. All he did was take the interview. notallthere
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Re: Social Media bans for under 16's PitDAWG 02/13/26 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
The process itself is the punishment because even just being arrested is a hassle and it is a straight up intimidation tactic by their government.

There are six democratic lawmakers who would make that same case here in the U.S. after the government attempting to indict them. And they weren't even holding a gun.

As much as people either refuse to see it or refuse to admit it, we're headed down that same slippery slope.
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Re: Social Media bans for under 16's PrplPplEater 02/13/26 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Police recorded 12,183 arrests in 2023

... with 1,119 leading to convictions.

The process itself is the punishment because even just being arrested is a hassle and it is a straight up intimidation tactic by their government.
Like I said: this reinforces that I would absolutely NOT take them as the baseline for "Free Speech" and if you can look at what they are doing and conclude that they're Ok, then you're a disaster.
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Re: Social Media bans for under 16's PrplPplEater 02/13/26 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
Because both have demonstrated track records of arresting people in their countries for saying things on social media. Not violent or threatening things, but merely things their government thinks is "mean"; they just call it "hate speech" and people get arrested.


Hate speech is a crime in the UK. But you will have to provide some receipts for those claims that seem to trivialise what people have said to get arrested.

I do know that a lady was arrested for telling an angry mob to burn down a hotel housing immigrants. Which is a little bit more than what you've suggested.


As I stated above, something merely being accused of "causing annoyance/anxiety" is cause for arrest. You can use the Googles on your own to find examples, but here is another insane example - a UK man was arrested for posting a picture of himself holding a gun... while ON VACATION IN THE U.S. (Florida). Video on the story with an interview of the guy below

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Re: Quarterback Defined 1oldMutt 02/13/26 05:44 PM
Todd better watch it talking about other QB options before he finds himself on the wrong side of the Sanders media meat grinder. Pure blasphemy talking about anyone else…
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach Day of the Dawg 02/13/26 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And after this season it was the HC and the ST's coach. The DC knew what was actually going on in the building so he left too.

You left out the part he tried to become head coach first part. That doesn't fit your agenda though!
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach PitDAWG 02/13/26 04:11 PM
And after this season it was the HC and the ST's coach. The DC knew what was actually going on in the building so he left too.
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Re: Quarterback Defined oobernoober 02/13/26 04:02 PM
Yeah... the no help thing was definitely an interesting decision.

I was merely pointing out that "fixing" the Oline will be a multi-year ordeal... even IF we hit on all of the Oline draft picks. The good ones still have to take their lumps in their rookie year.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach 1oldMutt 02/13/26 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Of course as per usual that is the coaches fault and not the GM who built the roster. Did he coach them how not to catch a punt or kickoff? Did he teach them not to secure the ball? Some of the lengths people will go to in order to lay the fault at one mans feet amazes me.

It’s no different than in baseball. You can’t crap can an entire team so the manager gets sacked. He’s naturally going to catch it fair or unfair. These guys know the way it works.

ST’s were not performing as one would hope and a change was made. Lay it at Bubbas, Berrys, the players or all of the above feet but the coach is gonna go first most likely and did.
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Re: ICE Continued Damanshot 02/13/26 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV)
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.


1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV)
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Leviticus 19:34 (ESV)
You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Luke 6:27-31 (ESV)
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Here are just a few.

Kinda makes me wonder how anyone can mistake anything this administration does with bible teachings.
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Re: ICE Continued Damanshot 02/13/26 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV)
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.


1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV)
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Leviticus 19:34 (ESV)
You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Luke 6:27-31 (ESV)
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Here are just a few.

Kinda makes me wonder how anyone can mistake anything this administration does with bible teachings.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 mgh888 02/13/26 01:28 PM
Bondi . sycophant in chief. Unbelievable.
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Re: ICE Continued Day of the Dawg 02/13/26 12:48 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Seems a little different than rejoicing and cheering on the mass slaughter of women, children and babies because of the color of their skin, where they live and because they lived under an oppressive political party. Seems different than the celebration of the genocide that took place in North America in the 1800's. I was familiar with the first and last quotes - if not exactly, in spirit or in part.

Regarding the white washing of history taking place (a little off topic but germane to the recent back and forth on here) - Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. The current administration seems to be trying to delete and remove factual events from history because they are painful and abhorrent to their sensibilities - they would rather be ignorant and prideful than face reality. I am pretty sure the bible talks about pride too ! 🤔

I think most people try looking forward instead of looking back. These atrocities you all are crying about happened long before we were even thought of. Meaning we cannot do anything to change that in any way shape or form. I do know that thru those events the greatest nation in the history of the world was created and I think God every day that I live in that country. I do not want to see this country changed into the depravity our forefathers departed that is Europe either. There are current atrocities and genocide happening every day in this country called abortion. Then since you all profess to be so Godly and good Christians and know more about the bible than anyone else you would know that in the bible God said before you were formed in the womb I knew you. So, in his own words those babies are not just a fetus they are a living image barrier of God and deserve to be fought for. Where are your tears and heartache for the millions of babies killed in the womb? You cry for things that happened many years before you were here but vote for and support the worst atrocity possible to the most innocent of all "babies".
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Re: ICE Continued mgh888 02/13/26 12:09 PM
Seems a little different than rejoicing and cheering on the mass slaughter of women, children and babies because of the color of their skin, where they live and because they lived under an oppressive political party. Seems different than the celebration of the genocide that took place in North America in the 1800's. I was familiar with the first and last quotes - if not exactly, in spirit or in part.

Regarding the white washing of history taking place (a little off topic but germane to the recent back and forth on here) - Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. The current administration seems to be trying to delete and remove factual events from history because they are painful and abhorrent to their sensibilities - they would rather be ignorant and prideful than face reality. I am pretty sure the bible talks about pride too ! 🤔
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach GMdawg 02/13/26 09:45 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Bubba Ventrone sucked as Browns ST coach. Fact plain and simple.

Not as plain and simple as you make it sound. I guess we'll find out. Unless of course the new guy is given better talent to work with. If so the product on the field should be better.

Same goes with the offense.

I guess you are going by a rule that doesn't exist. For future reference, no, you can't turn vinegar into wine.


If you want to turn water into wine I can't do it, but I know a guy angel
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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux GMdawg 02/13/26 09:38 AM
rofl
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Re: ICE Continued GMdawg 02/13/26 09:32 AM
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV)
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.


1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV)
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Leviticus 19:34 (ESV)
You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Luke 6:27-31 (ESV)
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Here are just a few.
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