Re: ICE Continued
Damanshot
02/13/26 03:46 PM
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV) Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV) Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Luke 6:27-31 (ESV) “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
Here are just a few. Kinda makes me wonder how anyone can mistake anything this administration does with bible teachings.
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Re: ICE Continued
Damanshot
02/13/26 03:42 PM
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV) Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV) Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Luke 6:27-31 (ESV) “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
Here are just a few. Kinda makes me wonder how anyone can mistake anything this administration does with bible teachings.
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Re: ICE Continued
Day of the Dawg
02/13/26 12:48 PM
Seems a little different than rejoicing and cheering on the mass slaughter of women, children and babies because of the color of their skin, where they live and because they lived under an oppressive political party. Seems different than the celebration of the genocide that took place in North America in the 1800's. I was familiar with the first and last quotes - if not exactly, in spirit or in part.
Regarding the white washing of history taking place (a little off topic but germane to the recent back and forth on here) - Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. The current administration seems to be trying to delete and remove factual events from history because they are painful and abhorrent to their sensibilities - they would rather be ignorant and prideful than face reality. I am pretty sure the bible talks about pride too ! 🤔 I think most people try looking forward instead of looking back. These atrocities you all are crying about happened long before we were even thought of. Meaning we cannot do anything to change that in any way shape or form. I do know that thru those events the greatest nation in the history of the world was created and I think God every day that I live in that country. I do not want to see this country changed into the depravity our forefathers departed that is Europe either. There are current atrocities and genocide happening every day in this country called abortion. Then since you all profess to be so Godly and good Christians and know more about the bible than anyone else you would know that in the bible God said before you were formed in the womb I knew you. So, in his own words those babies are not just a fetus they are a living image barrier of God and deserve to be fought for. Where are your tears and heartache for the millions of babies killed in the womb? You cry for things that happened many years before you were here but vote for and support the worst atrocity possible to the most innocent of all "babies".
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Re: ICE Continued
mgh888
02/13/26 12:09 PM
Seems a little different than rejoicing and cheering on the mass slaughter of women, children and babies because of the color of their skin, where they live and because they lived under an oppressive political party. Seems different than the celebration of the genocide that took place in North America in the 1800's. I was familiar with the first and last quotes - if not exactly, in spirit or in part.
Regarding the white washing of history taking place (a little off topic but germane to the recent back and forth on here) - Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. The current administration seems to be trying to delete and remove factual events from history because they are painful and abhorrent to their sensibilities - they would rather be ignorant and prideful than face reality. I am pretty sure the bible talks about pride too ! 🤔
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
GMdawg
02/13/26 09:45 AM
Bubba Ventrone sucked as Browns ST coach. Fact plain and simple. Not as plain and simple as you make it sound. I guess we'll find out. Unless of course the new guy is given better talent to work with. If so the product on the field should be better. Same goes with the offense. I guess you are going by a rule that doesn't exist. For future reference, no, you can't turn vinegar into wine. If you want to turn water into wine I can't do it, but I know a guy
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Re: ICE Continued
GMdawg
02/13/26 09:32 AM
Ephesians 4:32 (ESV) Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (ESV) Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Luke 6:27-31 (ESV) “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
Here are just a few.
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Re: ICE Continued
mgh888
02/13/26 07:58 AM
It seems as though I know Jesus a lot better than you do. Just my opinion - but that guy does not know Jesus. he has invented something in his head that allows him to be judge, jury, executioner based on a set of parameters and personal interpretations of something he's created that he then labels as Christianity and the bible. It rarely seems to interpret what little I know about the bible regarding kindness, compassion and love - especially for those in need and less fortunate - into how he views the world. In fact it would seem the opposite. It borders on psychosis.
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Re: Grand jury declines criminal charges against 6 Democrats who urged military to reject illegal orders
WooferDawg
02/13/26 04:25 AM
I get how people could form the opinion that was political grandstanding. But when the other side actually convenes a grand jury in an attempt to prosecute and imprison them for that? Trying to minimize the huge contrast between those two things by shrugging it off by saying such a threat to their freedom was nothing more than "The whole thing was political grandstanding by both sides" is a sad commentary to the direction our country has headed in.
These two things are NOT the same. I get it. But it is a classical double standard… We can do stupid things to stoke our base, but when you do things to stoke your base we will cry foul and then try to indict you…. Because we can. Nanny Nanny boo boo. Or… Kiss my Grits. The inmates are running the asylum.
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Re: 2026 Winter Olympics
Squires
02/13/26 03:49 AM
The three-peat was not to be, but womens halfpipe was an amazing event.
Choi, South Korean that wins gold, falls hard on her first run. Medical crew assisted her out of the pipe. It looked like her night might be over. She gets out there for the 2nd run and falls(but is ok). Then on the 3rd run puts together a first place score. Chloe Kim has one more run to beat that and falls, settling for silver. Normally you'd see the athlete feel disappointed after something like that. Kim gets to the bottom, finds Choi and hugs her. Great show of sportsmanship.
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Re: Quarterback Defined
hitt
02/12/26 11:09 PM
He is 22 yr old pro, who was injured and PATs did NOTHING to help him.....dumb. Fully grown, strong Defenders will thump good young men. Go Browns!!!
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
YTownBrownsFan
02/12/26 11:07 PM
Somehow our defense made capable players out of "bums" This is nonsense. The talent level between the defense and any other unit on this team are miles apart. Every team in the NFL has base level playters on special teams. The Browns just made less of these players than other team did. This is claiming the depth chart on every team has the same talent level. Once again nonsense. Bums might be an overstatement, but on defense we had unheralded guys like Avery, Harden, Ross, Webb, Huntington, (who also helped on offense and special teams) Diabate, and Hickman, (who was developed over time) all contributing to the defense. It wasn't a case of All Pros everywhere on defense. We had these lesser talents helping, and doing a good job, as well.
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Re: Grand jury declines criminal charges against 6 Democrats who urged military to reject illegal orders
Damanshot
02/12/26 11:04 PM
"Mandatory Duty to obey lawful orders and regulations,"
And that's all those 6 Americans, that served either in the Military (like you) or in the Intel Community said...
As for that meeting being Nothing, then why have it. I don't remember any former President having that kinda meeting... I don't remember a Sec def having one either
They may have, and I bet they did. But those other Presidents and SecDef's haven't Grandstanded.. Trump and Hegseth did and thats what frosted those 6 folks.
THEY DIDN'T LIE.. They Told the Truth.
Remember the faces of the Generals and Admirals. You didn't see them Cheering or Clapping.. They Looked STUNNED.. Trump or Hegseth NEVER said LEGAL orders.. They just said Orders.
We don't disagree on the "legal orders" part... I view the event Trump and Hegseth staged as the catalyst to the 6 people that spoke up..... I'm glad they did.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
DeisleDawg
02/12/26 10:34 PM
You can lead a horse to water......
Ventrone was fired by the Browns on Jan. 29th. He was hired to the same job by the Rams on Feb. 2nd. He was out of a job for exactly four days.
It seems the rams identified what the problem was and it wasn't Ventrone.
You'll have to forgive me if I trust the opinion reached by one of the top rated teams in the NFL over posters on a message board. Pit, you calling me a horse ? lol
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
PitDAWG
02/12/26 09:44 PM
Every player that enters the NFL wants to succeed. They all do everything possible to make the roster and perform at their best. Most ST players are marginal and often times only make the roster to play on ST's and very limited situations. Most all ST's players are late round draft picks or picks from former years that could never make the 53 man roster. The odds of these players to ever make the 53 man roster are very slim.
It really has little if anything to do with desire or will. It has to do with them being on the fringe of having enough talent to hold an NFL contract.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
PitDAWG
02/12/26 09:33 PM
Bubba Ventrone sucked as Browns ST coach. Fact plain and simple. Not as plain and simple as you make it sound. I guess we'll find out. Unless of course the new guy is given better talent to work with. If so the product on the field should be better. Same goes with the offense. I guess you are going by a rule that doesn't exist. For future reference, no, you can't turn vinegar into wine.
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Re: ICE Continued
PitDAWG
02/12/26 09:26 PM
How is committing genocide and stealing this nation from Native Americans an "accomplishment"? What makes you claim that doing so is what "they had to do"?
Genocide isn't an accomplishment and they didn't have to do it. Those sound like the very things every dictator in world history would say.
I'm against abortion. My daughter was born when her mother and I were both young. We had the choice to choose abortions. We thought it was wrong and did not make that choice.
I'm willing to openly admit that it's wrong even though I had no part in contributing to abortion.
You refuse to admit that what our forefathers did was wrong while you did not contribute to it.
And that's all you really have . "Boo Hoo Hoo" as your answer for all of those atrocities. It seems as though I know Jesus a lot better than you do.
You say I'm crying about what factually happened while I say you're playing the part of the coward and apologist by refusing to admit what actually happened.
When it comes to normal people facts usually win.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
Day of the Dawg
02/12/26 09:02 PM
And you're making the same claim that Bubba was better with no facts to back that statement up. There's only one problem. I never said that. Your claim is the new guy is better. The only thing I've said is you don't know that and neither does anyone else. A swing and a miss! I am just saying the Browns special teams were terrible under Bubba Ventrone that is a fact. They ranked near last in the NFL. No, you said that it would be better since he left. That there was "nowhere to go but up ". You have laid all of the blame on him without admitting that the talent level played any part in it. Do even remember what you have been posting? Bubba Ventrone sucked as Browns ST coach. Fact plain and simple.
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Re: ICE Continued
Day of the Dawg
02/12/26 09:01 PM
War? Is that what you are calling invaders taking over a continent through the use of genocide? You must have missed it. The British weren't taking over the entire continent. It was our forefathers that invaded and stole the continent for Native Americans not the British. Where did you learn your history from? And after we slaughtered them, herded them like cattle and forced them onto reservations, we stole their children from them, placed them in what we called Indian boarding schools...... US INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL HISTORY The truth about the U.S. Indian boarding school policy has largely been written out of the history books. There were more than 526 government-funded, and often church-run, Indian Boarding schools across the U.S. in the 19th and 20th centuries. Indian children were forcibly abducted by government agents, sent to schools hundreds of miles away, and beaten, starved, or otherwise abused when they spoke their Native languages. Intro to Boarding School History Beginning with the Indian Civilization Act Fund of March 3, 1819 and the Peace Policy of 1869 the United States, in concert with and at the urging of several denominations of the Christian Church, adopted an Indian Boarding School Policy expressly intended to implement cultural genocide through the removal and reprogramming of American Indian and Alaska Native children to accomplish the systematic destruction of Native cultures and communities. The stated purpose of this policy was to “Kill the Indian, Save the Man.” https://boardingschoolhealing.org/us-indian-boarding-school-history/We must not follow the same Jesus. The one I follow commands me to admit sins that have been committed and repent. Not make excuses and denials for atrocities committed in his name. Boo Hoo Hoo!!! I was not around when that happened. I did not commit any atrocities. This all happened long before you and me. We reap the benefits of what our forefathers accomplished. The Indians are defeated people, and our forefathers did what they had to do. You do not know the first thing about Jesus; you just pull him out when you feel it is convenient. Do you think crying about what might have happened 200+ years ago or the genocide we commit every day in the name of abortion. You are just being a hypocrite. Killing babies is fine but Indians killed 200+ years ago is unforgivable.
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Re: Browns hire new Special Teams Coach
Homewood Dog
02/12/26 08:45 PM
I agree Oober and I would think those backup-caliber players being at the bottom of the roster would be doing everything they possibly could to hold down a roster spot by trying to learn and perform at their best, yet they were making the same mistakes all season and weren't any better at seasons end than at the beginning. That to me is on the coach.
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