Re: Myles Garrett Traded
superbowldogg
07/28/26 10:59 PM
I get the fact that Defensive End / Edge Rusher don't win SB's and it seems to be a common theme as of late.
Yet at the same time, for some reason it's the second highest average paid position second only to the QB position.
For some strange reason those 32 GM's around the NFL think they're a pretty important cog in the wheel. Maybe they think pressuring and getting in the opponents backfield is more valuable than the fan base does? I think it's more the fascination with the idea that one good DE vs one great DE's matters. 2025 Broncos had 68 sacks last year the browns had 53 - Myles had 23 sacks (sack Leader) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2024- Broncos had 63 sacks and the browns had 41 - Myles had 14 sacks Trey Hendrickson (had 17.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2023 - Ravens had 60 Browns had 49 - Myles had 14 sacks (TJ Watt had 19) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2022 Philly had 70 Browns had 34 - Myles had 16 sacks (Bosa had 18.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2021 Pitt had 55 Browns had 43 - Myles had 16 sacks *(Watt had 22.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2020 Pitt had 56 Browns had 38 - Myles had 12 sacks *(Watt had 15) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2019 Pitt had 54 Browns had 38 - Myles had 10 sacks (Shaquil Barrett had 19.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2018 KC had 58 Browns had 37 - Myles had 13.5 sacks (Aaron Donald had 20.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2017 Pitt had 56 Browns had 34 - Myles had 7 sacks (Chandler Jones had 17) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2016 Cardinals had 48 Browns had 26 - Myles was in college (Vic Beasley had 15.5) - Sack Leader didn't make the SB 2/10 times in the last decade was the sack leader in the NFL on a team that had the most sacks (TJ Watt) in 2020 and 2021 0/10 times did the NFL sack leader make the SB. IE Sack leaders don't translate to anything meaningful. But, man... they are fun to watch.
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Re: Camp Questions
bonefish
07/28/26 10:10 PM
I agree.
Huge question. We don't know. The one that may be really important is George Warhop.
According to Joe Thomas George is the best.
Our first pick was Fano. LT is a hard position for a rookie. The pros have spent lots of time refining their moves. Experience is more than helpful.
Center is wide open. The rest is about playing the best we have. Then it is up to George to get them to play as a unit.
It is going to be a challenge. The season will be defined by QB play but without protection the results will be predictable.
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Re: The North
Dawgs4Life
07/28/26 09:59 PM
The Ravens might have the most talent, but we'll see how Minter does in his first year.
It feels like the Bengals better figure things out on D and the OL before Burrow is wasted
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Re: Camp Questions
Dawgs4Life
07/28/26 09:58 PM
one big question for me is the OL. We have a lot of different options and flexibility. not saying they are all good, but I think there's some maneuvering to be had
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Re: The Dems... again
Jester
07/28/26 09:03 PM
You support the party that supported slavery. The Republicans were basically founded as a party to end slavery. That is a true statement and Lincoln was originally a Whig turned republican. However, we are living in 2026 not 1826 There has been significant changes to the philosophies of both parties And while Lincoln may have abolished slavery, no President since has done more for civil rights than LBJ => a democrat
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Re: Watson vs Sanders?
IrishDawg42
07/28/26 08:51 PM
Pushing the ball down the field and forcing the ball down the field are not the same thing. Forcing the ball down the field leads to int's. And as you have been shown, turning the ball over loses games. It doesn't win them. If your version of hope is getting your azz kicked in the turnover battle, your version of hope is very different than mine.
He was also involved in 10 it's last season. Given the improvement in the OL personnel and WR's Gabriel too can push the ball down their field. Just because he wasn't willing to throw a bunch of int's doesn't mean he can't do it.
Did you bother to watch the video yet or no? Because it sure doesn't sound like it. As For Sanders INTs.. It wasn't from forcing the ball down field. When Shedeur pushed the ball downfield last year, for the most part, it was very positive. Breakdown of Sanders picks: Ravens - He was hit as he threw it, bad decision, should have taken a sack Raiders - He was trying to hit the guy underneath 7 yards past the LOS, bad read on the defense Titans - Again, threw the ball while he was being tackled (this was the worst pattern) Bears #1 - Batted up at LOS Bears #2 - This was the only one you could say he forced down field.. albeit, it was only 25 yards down field, but bad placement I'll give you this one Bears #3 - Bad read, 17 yards down field Bills #1 - Batted at LOS Bills #2 - short 5 yard out, bad throw Steelers #1 - Hit as he threw, caught at the LOS Steelers #2 - Threw up for grabs 18 yards down field He actually had more control the more he concentrated down field. Once he comes off that read, he struggles fitting it in short yardage. I think that can be fixed. Gabriel, likewise, threw an interception against Pats 7 yards past LOS, bad throw, but his second one was classic forcing the ball 45 yards down field. Out of all 12 INTs, Gabriel's was the only true forced ball down field INT. Sanders could have been argued, but worse yet, they both took a lot of sacks. They need to improve pocket presence and get through their reads faster.
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Re: DSA Platform
Pdawg
07/28/26 08:31 PM
Oh I know the whole story. I was unable to post a video where she explained it in her own words. My comment remains. To get rid of the Senate and executive branch as well as the Supreme Court is crazy. Do you think it is a good idea to put everything under the control of the House? We have been a Republic for 250 years. I think throwing that out with the bath water is crazy and dangerous.
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Re: DSA Platform
PitDAWG
07/28/26 08:17 PM
The website was initially owned by the Montreal-based The Post Millennial Corporation. It was criticised for the lack of transparency about its ties to Conservative Party politicians. In mid-2019, in announcing its hiring of Ballingall as executive, The Post Millennial said it was funded by "private investors".
It is owned by............... JTN Networks
The parent company of Just the News explicitly describes its portfolio as a union of right-leaning media brands, having also acquired other prominent conservative and right-of-center outlets like The Post Millennial and Human Events.
Jeff Ballingall is a Canadian political activist and digital strategist who serves as the Chief Marketing Officer and co-founder/former shareholder of the conservative online news site The Post Millennial. He is also widely known for founding third-party conservative advocacy groups like Ontario Proud and Canada Proud.
Maybe that's why they only told you part pf the story?
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Re: DSA Platform
PitDAWG
07/28/26 08:08 PM
U.S. Senate: The DSA platform calls for eliminating the Senate to transition the legislative branch into a single, expanded, unicameral body elected directly by the public.
Presidency and Supreme Court: The platform seeks to replace the current executive and judicial branches with an executive and a judiciary that are chosen by and directly subordinate to Congress.
True and false answers don't quite explain things. Doing away with something isn't the same as reorganizing things and the way they operate.
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Re: DSA Platform
Pdawg
07/28/26 07:59 PM
I started a new t thread because even though they put up candidates in the Democratic party they are not democrats. I think they are crazy.
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DSA Platform
Pdawg
07/28/26 07:56 PM
[DSA platform seeks to abolish US Senate, ICE, presidency, Supreme Court, US borders under socialist utopia Republicans have seized on the rise of the DSA and have taken the opportunity to brand democrats as out of touch radicals.
DSA platform seeks to abolish US Senate, ICE, presidency, Supreme Court, US borders under socialist utopia Image Avery Hill Jul 27, 2026 3 minute read In a Sunday interview with Fox News's Shannon Bream, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) National Co-Chair Megan Romer was pressed on several of the organization's platform positions.
During the interview, Bream presented Romer with a list of DSA platform positions and asked her to respond with “true or false” answers.
Romer said “true” when asked about abolishing the Senate and agreed with replacing the presidency and Supreme Court “as we now know them.” She also responded “absolutely” when asked about abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
When Bream asked whether the DSA supported “abolishing borders and giving amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally,” Romer replied, “As a long-term plan, yep.”
Romer also endorsed defunding the Pentagon, saying “absolutely” when asked about the proposal. She agreed that abolishing prisons “at least in large part” was part of the organization’s long-term goals.
Asked about government or public ownership of most large corporations, Romer responded, “Yeah, absolutely.”
Bream also asked Romer if the Democratic party should be worried about the organization's directions for the party
“The establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what the voters think and about what the constituency thinks, and … right now they have not been delivering, and our candidates are and have been, and it’s resonating with voters,” Romer replied according to The Hill
“I also have been told a lot of times by Democrats, don’t vote third party. It’s wasting your vote,” the DSA co-chair continued. “So, we run on the Democratic ballot line where it makes sense. We run independents sometimes where that is a viable possibility, but it’s a ballot line. And what matters is what the voters think. And the voters are overwhelmingly choosing our candidates.”
Her comments come as a swath of DSA candidates sweep establishment democrats in primary elections with Claire Valdez (NY-7), Darializa Avila Chevalier (NY-13), and Brad Lander (NY-10) prevailing with DSA and Mayor Zohran Mamdani backing, alongside state wins by Aber Kawas, Samantha Kattan, David Orkin, Eon Huntley, Christian Tate, and Illapa Sairitupac.
Melat Kiros also defeated longtime incumbent Diana DeGette in Colorado’s 1st District, while Chris Rabb won Pennsylvania’s 3rd. Janeese Lewis George took the D.C. mayoral primary.
Republicans have seized on the rise of the DSA and have taken the opportunity to brand democrats as out of touch radicals. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson based Democrats as crazy in a X post.
"Far-left Democrats confirm their agenda is to shred the U.S. Constitution, seize private property, and make Americans vulnerable to violent attacks at home and abroad - among many other radical policies," he said. "This is the contrast for America between common sense and CRAZY."
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Re: Camp Questions
IrishDawg42
07/28/26 07:47 PM
And once again you offer no source. That's exactly what I expected. So people overheard a conversation between Stefanski and Berry? And where is "there"? Was this something Stefanski told Berry on the sideline? Was it somewhere in public where people could overhear it? It sure sounds like if it were something that was actually said at all it would have been in a private setting. Inquiring minds want to know.
Are you going to continue on with the "Somebody said they overheard something" game? It was not somebody it was multiple media members down in the locker rooms after the game. It was a very heated exchange, and the media members heard the outbursts. What do you think started the whole Deshaun Watson conversation? By the way I agree Stefanski, Berry, and Haslam were right. A team will never win a Super Bowl with Baker Mayfield. Watson was just the wrong choice to replace Baker. You know what, Dan Marino is never going to win a Super Bowl either, that doesn't mean Baker wasn't the best choice for this team then, and still would be now of any QBs that were available to the team over the past 4 seasons. Do you have any idea how many QBs won't ever win a Super Bowl? The team that is finally getting put together by Berry, if the "prospects" pan out, would be a top team in the league with Baker at the helm. Man for man, I think Cleveland is better than Tampa Bay right now. The leader of the offense has yet to emerge. That said, Baker's led Buccs have a much higher expectation of playoffs than the Browns. I don't disagree in replacing a good player with a better player. However, when looking at all available QBs since Baker left, there isn't a single player that is better than Mayfield. There might have been if we had kept Baker, and more importantly, our draft picks. Without any draft picks, there certainly weren't any free agents or available trade QBs better than Baker Mayfield over that time span.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders?
PitDAWG
07/28/26 07:32 PM
Pushing the ball down the field and forcing the ball down the field are not the same thing. Forcing the ball down the field leads to int's. And as you have been shown, turning the ball over loses games. It doesn't win them. If your version of hope is getting your azz kicked in the turnover battle, your version of hope is very different than mine.
He was also involved in 10 it's last season. Given the improvement in the OL personnel and WR's Gabriel too can push the ball down their field. Just because he wasn't willing to throw a bunch of int's doesn't mean he can't do it.
Did you bother to watch the video yet or no? Because it sure doesn't sound like it.
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
07/28/26 07:23 PM
Which party do white supremacists and the KKK support today? Pay attention. Ike had the highest tax rate on the wealthy ever. He passed the biggest infrastructure bill in the U.S. to that point and built the interstate highways system. He warned about the very military industrial complex we see today supported by Repblicans. If Republicans were the same as they were in the times of Lincoln I would be a Republican. If they were like they were during the times of Ike I might be a Republican today. They're not. So you can just stop pretending they are any time now. If they wish to purchase air conditioning in Europe they have the same option to do so as we do. We don't have "exclusive rights" to air conditioning.  I love seeing you Republicans talk about how much those foreigners loved America and Americans. It's as if you just enjoy shooting yourselves in the foot so much you just can't resist doing it. Those world cup teams and fans were visiting, playing and being hosted in blue cities. The very places you and your kind hate so much. I'm pretty sure if they were visiting, playing and being hosted in red areas where every time they rounded a corner someone asked them for their green card they may feel quite differently. One thing we agree on, the places they stayed in America, they loved. Because the places they visited welcome foreigners and treated them well.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders?
Day of the Dawg
07/28/26 07:13 PM
So Sanders had the vision but threw more picks than td's but the reason Dillon only threw two int's is because he couldn't see the field? Here's a news flash for you. The one you claim can't see the field is the one who should have been throwing the int's. Not the one who could see the field. If what you just posted is true then the one who can see the field has pizz poor decision making skills.
Neither of these two have what it takes to be a franchise QB. But claiming one is superior to the other is fools gold. Often times your perception is not the reality.
So after watching that highlight reel are you still saying Dillon doesn't have the arm? Or did you even bother to look at the actual evidence before spewing more BS? Because you sure switched directions away from that pretty fast. Sanders more than likely is not a franchise QB. But he offers more hope because he wants to push the ball down field. He has to improve his decision making or he will be joining Gabriel as ex NFL players really quickly. Sanders looked down field and he threw the ball down field. He was involved with 7 of the Browns 10 longest plays from scrimmage last year. The hope is if he can make plays and reduce the turnovers maybe the Browns find something in him. Gabriel can come in and throw 5-yard dinks and dunks and the Browns go 3 and out over and over and over again. But he does not turn the ball over. I want a QB that at least offers hope or a glimpse of hope. Gabriel offers none!!!
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Re: Camp Questions
PitDAWG
07/28/26 07:09 PM
Once again, show me your sources. You just keep posting this with zero evidence to actually support it other than "I heard".
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Re: Watson vs Sanders?
PitDAWG
07/28/26 07:06 PM
So Sanders had the vision but threw more picks than td's but the reason Dillon only threw two int's is because he couldn't see the field? Here's a news flash for you. The one you claim can't see the field is the one who should have been throwing the int's. Not the one who could see the field. If what you just posted is true then the one who can see the field has pizz poor decision making skills.
Neither of these two have what it takes to be a franchise QB. But claiming one is superior to the other is fools gold. Often times your perception is not the reality.
So after watching that highlight reel are you still saying Dillon doesn't have the arm? Or did you even bother to look at the actual evidence before spewing more BS? Because you sure switched directions away from that pretty fast.
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Re: The Dems... again
Day of the Dawg
07/28/26 07:03 PM
This nation was founded on rebellion. The Boston tea party. Every positive change made in this nation came trough protest. You know, "to form a more perfect union".
You sound like the same people who wanted to keep slavery when people fought against it. You sound like the same people who fought against women fighting for the right to vote. You sound just like the people who stood against minorities gaining civil rights.
People recognizing the flaws in our nation and fighting to change things for the better is as American as the flag. Telling them they should leave instead of fighting to make things better is as un=America as it gets.
The entire "love it or leave it" would mean we would still have slavery, women wouldn't be able to vote and minorities would still be living under Jim Crow.
You have no idea how ridiculous you sound. You support the party that supported slavery. The Republicans were basically founded as a party to end slavery. I enjoy air conditioning. Did you hear those Europeans that came here during the world cup about enjoying things like air conditioning, large portions at restaurants, how nice the people are, etc... Yet you want what we kicked out years ago. Democratic Socialism offers oppression. No thanks I do not want that. Go look at the tent cities your liberal agendas provide everywhere they are in control. No thanks.
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