Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5
PitDAWG
04/20/26 06:23 PM
The brilliance behind trump's war with Iran......
1. You can't lose if you don't have specific goals.
2. In order to confuse your enemy you must first confuse yourself.
3. If you don't know what you're doing neither does your enemy.
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Re: The Dems... again
mgh888
04/20/26 05:34 PM
Just wondering out loud here. If spending money on cow fart capturing assistance for farmers is better than spending on research .... I wonder if the scope of the study actually includes research into the best and most efficient way to capture cow farts? Because who else is going to do it? Industry drives innovation ... but there is no great demand for cow fart capturing services/devices. Spending money helping farmers capture cow farts inefficiently or ineffectively helps no-one in the long run.
Just an idle thought reading the back and forth. Bottom line is I would bet that a miniscule fraction of the budget was anything related to cow farts. But it sure does make a nice headline.
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Re: Bengals trade #10 pick for Giants' Lawrence
Iluvmyxstripper
04/20/26 05:27 PM
Hendrickson was coming off back surgery. Plus hes 32 years old. Hes not at Myles Garrett level, so why pay him all that $$$. ? DEs are important to a team , but how many wins Have the Browns had in Garrett's tenure ...? 54 , 55. When your DE is your teams highest paid player, you aren't wining alot .
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
04/20/26 04:39 PM
You say a lot of things. Try reminding yourself that I don't take orders from you. And that whole "humping your leg" thing? Like I said, I won't be fulfilling any of your sexual fantasies and I don't really take me being a part of them in a positive light. This is how you act when the evidence proves you are wrong. Ignore it and attack the messenger. How trumpian of you.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
04/20/26 04:35 PM
Exactly. It's impossible to tell what is a lie and what is the truth. Now the consequences of that when he lies about every day things isn't so bad yet still undermines whether we can trust anything he says. But when the topic is war those lies can result in some terrible consequences. We're already at the point that the entire globe doesn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. And the long term impact of that is even more severe.
What they have learned is no long term deal or agreement with the U.S. can be trusted. Here is at least a partial list of agreements the U.S. had made that trump has broken...............
[Paris Climate Agreement]: Trump withdrew the U.S. from the global climate accord for a second time in 2025.
[United Nations Entities]: A directive was signed in early 2026 to withdraw from 66 international organizations, including 31 UN entities and 35 other organizations, in a move to cease funding and involvement in entities seen as counter to U.S. interests.
[World Health Organization (WHO)]: The U.S. withdrew from the WHO.
[UN Human Rights Council and UNESCO]: The U.S. formally exited these bodies.
[UNRWA (Palestinian Refugee Aid)]: Funding was halted for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees.
Trade and Regional Deals Modified or Terminated
[Tariffs and Trade Deals]: Trump initiated a 90-day pause on trade negotiations in mid-2025, substituting them with new tariff rates for major partners including the E.U., Canada, Japan, and South Korea, after the Supreme Court struck down earlier IEEPA tariffs.
[UK Technology and Prosperity Deal]: This deal was suspended in December 2025.
[USAID Activities]: The administration has moved to dissolve or severely curtail the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).
The entire globe has learned that the word of the U.S. can never be trusted again because with a single election it can all be broken.
That's a lot more than a little "short term discomfort."
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Re: Iran War II
oobernoober
04/20/26 04:24 PM
Good post, Oober. I agree with a lot of what you posted. I think some of it is a little overboard, I mean, I'm not sure we could target a mosquito in the region without it affecting the world oil market so it's silly to think we didn't see that coming.
I was speaking specifically to his statement "That whole thing in Iran has been bungled from the start." Meaning, mission has started, for whatever reason you have decided, everything from that point forward. I was hoping he would respond but knew that probably wouldn't happen before everyone else did. I don't not agree with Daman, but I'm not sure I ever have. If he saw a headline that says Trump eats babies, he would 100% believe that and repeat it without reading another word.
I just think, whether war or football, it's always easy to armchair it after the fact. I see the necessity of dealing with this bully a lot differently than most here, I'm basically sitting shotgun with 'Peen in that respect.
I won't bother arguing about it though. It's mostly futile. It baffles me that we can talk about the possibility of Iran having a nuke and many people think (me included) that would be the direst situation, read: threat to humanity by humans, that this planet has ever faced... others think it's a nothingburger. There's not really much reason for those people to try to talk it out. I was definitely writing with a bit of snark, so yes some was a bit overboard. Personally, I don't mind a bit of short-term discomfort (price of oil and it's effect on other prices) if the reasoning and long-term benefit is there. So, to me, the issue is 100% why this whole thing was kicked off, and no amount of tactical execution can make up for an unclear or nonexistent objective. I agree with you on armchairing conflicts... except for the 'why'. And in this case critics don't even have to use the benefit of hindsight to question why we're attacking... it's been mixed messages since the aftermath of the first strikes on the nuclear sites.
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
04/20/26 04:22 PM
That's your imagination. I understand that you have your fantasies but I will not be fulfilling that one for you. A little testy this morning aren't you? This is how you always act when the evidence shows you are wrong. You have one of two M.O's. You either ignore the things you have no way to defend or you lash out by attacking the one who provided the evidence. I'm pretty sure they make medication for that.
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
04/20/26 04:01 PM
Spending 8B to study cow farts... Baaaaaad. Yet I have already shown you that is a total lie. You may have simply been mistaken the first time but after me showing you that it's a lie? Now it's intentional................. The only provision of the legislation that specifically addresses "enteric methane emissions from ruminants" comes under the heading of agricultural conservation. The legislation allocates almost $8.5 billion for all types of conservation over four years, with the agriculture secretary "prioritizing proposals that utilize diet and feed management to reduce enteric methane emissions from ruminants." In all likelihood, cattle-related projects would account for a small fraction of that $8.5 billion. https://www.politifact.com/factchec...flation-reduction-act-goes-toward-trees/
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Re: The Dems... again
FATE
04/20/26 03:43 PM
You know what. This is way over your head. Besides that, it doesn't matter that I've clarified exactly what I meant for, now, the third day. You've gone from ignoring intent to telling me I was lying and really want socialism for farmers and now, back to the beginning.
I'll do this one last time, so you can cry about it yet again.
Spending 8B to study cow farts... Baaaaaad.
Spending that same 8B, if you're in a rush to spend 8B, on helping small farms adopt methane capturing/prevention systems... Better.
But... in your world. I lied and am WRONG.
And you are RIGHT. Because you are always RIGHT. Yes, even when telling other humans how they really feel or what they really meant.
And since this section is really yours, and yours alone, to repent, I'll include "FATE loves socialism for farmers!" in all of my posts the rest of the day.
Now, go tell your wife and dog you've won another argument on DT today so you can get your gold star!
Edit: FATE loves socialism for farmers!
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
04/20/26 03:18 PM
IF you insist on spending 8 billion dollars.
This Is Not That Hard No it's not. Context is an easy concept. Yet you still don't get it. You didn't say anything about "if you have to spend 8 billion dollars." Once again, here is your direct quote............. If we cared to make proper use of 8B Maybe if you read it real slow that would help?
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
04/20/26 03:10 PM
But that was before trump set Iran's nuclear program back many years if not decades, remember? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
04/20/26 03:08 PM
Pit I understand you are openly rooting for Iran in this war but understand what you are rooting for here. Once again you come here and do nothing but lie. There is a video out there about some of the people Iran are executing daily for protesting their tyrannical government and they are you 18-year-old girls. These same Iranian Leaders you're cheering for that is sentencing these young girls to be gang raped before they are executed because in their religion if a female is a virgin they go to heaven but if they are not, they go to hell. And claiming I'm cheering for them is yet another lie. But you have already shown your true colors cheering for Hamas for multiple years and now you're a fan of Iran. Sad that we have people in the US openly supporting these people, but you keep it up!!! Why must you constantly come here to spread your right wing propaganda? Oh I know, because you can't defend trump so you attack me. Typical extreme right wing tactics. I'm not rooting for Iran. I didn't root for Iraq either but I thought going there and starting a war was wrong. I get it. You think opposing America going to war means you support the enemy. You can't wrap your brain around the idea that supporting our troops and supporting the mission they were sent on is two different things. It's a foreign concept to you. What I don't like is being lied to about the reason for war. What I don't like is being the worlds police. Trump specifically stated he would not start any wars. https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/user-clip-trump-no-wars/5138281In June of 2025 he said those air strikes set Iran's nuclear program back "many years if not decades". Only eight months later he claimed Iran was less than a month away from having a nuclear weapon. He is a habitual liar and here you are calling me out and not him. That's hilarious!  You do realize that what you posted as "your reasoning" for a war in Iran is nothing close to the reason trump claims he went to war there, right? So rather than call trump on all of the times he has lied about this war and even lying about the fact he would not start any wars somehow you think it's my fault because I call him on his BS? So that means you just come here and make up lies about me instead? So you're just like trump. Murica! Freedumb! Dr. Jesus!
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Re: Iran War II
bonefish
04/20/26 03:02 PM
We are not the world's police.
No country is a threat to the US.
Getting dragged into regime change and regional disputes does nothing for the US except create more problems.
Spending there and disrupting the global economy is not helping us.
How about dealing with making life here better. Like healthcare, economic issues, education, debt, and the kitchen table.
Nothing was gained from wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and now Iran. Let them deal with their own problems.
Let's work on our own backyard.
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Re: The Dems... again
PitDAWG
04/20/26 02:44 PM
The "if" you use was in reference to "If we cared to make proper use of 8B." It must be context you're having an issue with. Not if we should have 8B. Not if it should be done away with. It was used in the context of the way the money should be used properly. Your lame azz crap isn't working for anyone who made it past the fourth grade.
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Re: Iran War II
FATE
04/20/26 02:31 PM
If you face a loaded gun does that mean try and shoot first?
What is nuclear disarmament? There is none because the formula is out.
One nuke facing another means that nobody will pull the trigger because they know they will be nothing but ashes. Mutually assured destruction reduces the chance of a deliberate full-scale nuclear first strike, but it does not make nuclear proliferation harmless. North Korea already showed that nuclear weapons can weaken deterrence, embolden conventional aggression, complicate alliance commitments, and destabilize regions even without any bomb being used. Iran would be more dangerous because it sits in a far more connected and volatile region, where one new nuclear state could trigger an arms race and raise the odds of coercion or miscalculation. No, we'll never be to a point where "Iran can't make a nuke". That's basically impossible. But pushing to stay as close as possible will be an ongoing task for what seems like may be an eternity. A nuclear-armed Iran would trigger a regional arms race like the world has never imagined. You think that area is a powder keg now?? And, in Iran's case, retaliation fear doesn't freeze bad actors; it just lets them play dirtier below the red line.
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Re: Iran War II
bonefish
04/20/26 01:10 PM
Israel has never signed a nuclear proliferation deal.
They remain nuclear ambiguous.
We remain in a Cold War with Russia since 1947. Why? Because everyone knows the consequences.
Where it led was agreements to disarm. But never eliminate.
Obama had a deal with Iran. That is all that will come out of this is to go backwards to what was in place.
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