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Re: Browns News cont. oobernoober 06/18/26 03:23 AM
He's fast AND quick without the stereotypical stone-hands that usually plague track-star WRs. He looked good but we just didn't have enough under center and upfront to utilize his talent.
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Re: The North oobernoober 06/18/26 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by hitt
Bengals CANCELLED last two days of their OTAs....

They have same dudes running same systems. OTAs aren't going to make or break their season.
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Iran War... MoU and forward oobernoober 06/18/26 03:16 AM
https://apnews.com/article/mou-transcript-iran-us-war-8576fbe2be1309977e903463fbf57ee6

The link above is a straight transcript of the MoU. Below are my thoughts based on my understanding of what I just read. While there is heavy sarcasm below, please do correct me if I'm misunderstanding anything. I am very interested in understanding how this war is settled.

1. Termination of hostilities... which includes Lebanon... but Israel isn't signing the MoU? This seems... flawed, especially since Israel is saying they are fighting Hamas.

4. Part of the agreement is to remove US forces "from the proximity of Iran". We have 16 military bases/locations along the border of Iran and on the shores of the Persian Gulf.

5. I don't see the same type of strict deadlines for resuming of commercial traffic past Hormuz as there is in paragraph 4. Also, passage of commercial traffic at no charge is only for 60, which I assume overlaps with a ramping up period as the strait still has to be demined. This paragraph also leaves open the possibility of fees being instated after the initial 60-day period. This has been left open enough to really turn around and bite us hard.

6. I can't wait to see how Trump is going to spin giving Iran $300B (on top of paragraphs 7, 10, and 11) for reconstruction. Maybe this is a standard arrangement that's given to the country that got bombed by the aggressors, but paying the regime you said you'd dismantle $300B to rebuild their infrastructure is gonna sting DJT's ego. Bet he's not gonna sign that check with his comically large signature and one of those stupid sharpies.
Also... "regional partners"? So who else is getting in on paying this bill? Israel? The Saudis?

7. Termination of all sanctions. This seems reasonable and is WAY more valuable chip to them than it is to us.

8. "... Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons". BAHAHAHAHA! So after all that, all we got on the main issue (Iran's nuclear program) was to get back to what Obama negotiated back in 2016. I realize this issue is the main point of the ongoing negotiations, but the fact we huffed and puffed and this is all we have to show for it does not bode well. Honestly, I can see this being the symbolic turning point of America losing it's top spot among the world powers.

11. So the thing that Obama got all that flack for (paying Iran in the form of unfreezing financial assets), we are going to do again. That's a tough look for this admin... and that's on top of signing a big fat check to repay for all the stuff we blew up. Is this the reason we laid off all those federal workers and slashed the federal budget for public education? So we could drop a gajillion dollars worth of bombs that now we have to replenish and then pay Iran for the inconvenience. Wow...

Are we trying to make Russia feel better about how they're doing in Ukraine? "Don't worry, Putin... it happens to the best of us".
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Re: The North Iluvmyxstripper 06/17/26 11:26 PM
If there was a year for the Browns to gain ground this is it .

The Browns have some high ceiling players going into year 2
Fanin, Swesinger, Judkins, Graham . Its gone from a old roster to young
On paper the oline looks better . Warhop has the most important job
Of the preseason.
Monken likes to run the ball. I think he will lean on it heavily
I dont think the QB matters this year . Neither are proven winners
I think both will be game managers .
But the Browns QB room is better than the Steelers .
Rodgers has nothing left in that arm . 8-9

The Ravens are going through a HC change . Their oline lost talent
Derrick Henry is a year older . As is Mark Andrews .
Their depth at TE took a hit . Lamar Jackson simply cant win when it
Counts . Hes just like Tony Romo , Andy Dalton Baker Mayfield and Dan Fouts .
They wilt in the playoffs . Jesse Minter is a 1st year HC
He will be exposed . 8-9

The Bengals did things not common in the past and actually
Spent alot of money . Dexter Lawrence alone will make that front 7 better. Then you Johnaton Allen.
They wont miss Hendrickson. Their secondary got better with Cook from KC and
Duggar from Pittsburgh .
The only team In the North to retain there HC and oline . Best offense in the AFC
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The Steelers have a ancient artifact for a QB . Overhauled coaching staff on
Offense . Traded for Michael Pittman who is a big target but isnt a end zone threat
Revolving door at RB as usual. Harris and Gainwell out
Rico Dowdle in . Defense could keep them in some games . We will see how many wins McCarthy
Can win on experience. 7-10.
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Re: Browns News cont. FATE 06/17/26 09:53 PM
I don't know about "lighting it up immediately". He showed glimpses of his talent in every game he played, some of them jaw-dropping. He missed four games or so in the middle of the season with a foot injury (I think he was deemed "ready" but got an extra week to heal ahead of our bye week).

I remember thinking from the beginning that we're just not used to seeing WRs that wide open.

This was the dude signed as an UDFA. After the signing, it was rumored that we had been in contact with him for a while. He was considered a day 2 pick until sexual allegations surfaced right before the draft (later no-billed by a grand jury).


I'll let AI tell you the rest of what I've been seeing...


Isaiah Bond's profile as an NFL wide receiver is built around world-class athleticism and specific mechanical skills that allow him to stress defenses vertically.

His elite traits include:

🚀 World-Class Speed and Acceleration

True Track Speed: Bond boasts verifiable, elite speed, clocking a official 4.39-second 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Instant Acceleration: He possesses rare "one-cut" acceleration, meaning he reaches top speed within his first three steps, allowing him to erase a defensive back’s cushion almost instantly.

Vertical Separation: His primary role is a field-stretcher; his speed forces safeties to play deep, opening up the intermediate passing game for his teammates.


📉 Sharp Route-Running Breaks

Hip Fluidity: Unlike many pure speed threats who run rounded routes, Bond can drop his hips and make sharp, 90-degree cuts without breaking his stride.

Stop-and-Start Ability: He uses his elite deceleration to snap off comeback and hitch routes, leaving cornerbacks coasting backward out of respect for his deep speed.


🏈 Elite Ball Tracking and Body Control

Deep-Ball Adjustments: He excels at tracking the football over his shoulder on deep posts and go-routes, adjusting his stride mid-flight to match the trajectory of the ball.

Sideline Awareness: Despite his smaller frame, he possesses great body control to keep his feet in bounds when making contested catches along the boundary.
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Re: Browns News cont. PrplPplEater 06/17/26 08:26 PM
I completely forgot about Bond. Wasn't he one of those guys that was lighting it up last year and then disappeared due to injury almost immediately??
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Re: The North hitt 06/17/26 08:07 PM
Time will tell if we have a legit QB.....news today- Bengals CANCELLED last two days of their OTAs....we, Browns fans hang on every throw/ interception, dang, he looks good....AND Bengals could care less- one day's enough in June......how different- Go Browns!!!
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 06/17/26 06:25 PM
That's the thing about old age. It can be trying at times and as time passes you can't do all of the things that you used to. At the same time there are people that manage to skip old age. They are the people who die young. I find old age to be much better than the alternative.
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 06/17/26 06:22 PM
Breaking it down on some level I think we can agree. If someone is able to work but refuses to do so I would agree that they shouldn't be entitled to benefits. Where we may not agree is this. If those same people are willing to and do work, yet at the same time their wages are so low they fall under those benefit guidelines, they should receive that help.

Such as there are single mothers who have two or three children who work their behinds off who still do not make enough money to afford healthcare and rent. People shouldn't be treated as and or called freeloaders or looking for handouts when they are out there working for a living. 49% of people covered by Medicaid are children.

I'm not going to call people trying to do their best, names and label them in with people who do not.

That's where things go off the rails.

I've already shown you how millions of people who get such assistance are either working or elderly people who are on social security. Now I have shown you that 49% of assistance goes to the benefit of children. I have never seen you call people who get assistance anything other than freeloaders and people just looking for a handout.

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How would you in all your knowledge

I understand considering how you have labeled everyone who gets assistance as freeloaders and people just looking for a handout why you may think what I've shown you what appears to be a lot of knowledge but it's really not. It's simply what happens when you take just a little bit of time to look into things and see who and who does not get that assistance rather than repeating everything you "think and feel" and labeling everyone who gets that assistance as all being the same and all a bunch of lowlifes the way you have done. And maybe just an ounce of compassion for your fellow man helps.
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Re: The Dems... again Day of the Dawg 06/17/26 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Jesus famously said, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's" (found in Matthew 22:21 and Mark 12:17). He spoke this to avoid a political trap, meaning people should fulfill their civic duties (like paying taxes) while dedicating their ultimate, spiritual allegiance to God.

And that's where I'm at. If you have to pay it anyway it's nice to see at least some of the money going back to the people who need it most.

And I'm not talking about healthy people who are able and fit to work unless their incomes are just so low they need some assistance. It doesn't make sense to me to live in a system where people aren't being paid enough to make a living but people begrudge those working or retired people benefits to help them make it. I would certainly agree that the current system of benefits isn't perfect. That it should be more closely monitored. But this crazy notion that everyone receiving such benefits are nothing but freeloaders looking for a handout is preposterous.

How would you in all your knowledge handle those fit to work? That number is actual quite large anymore. They do not deserve health insurance paid and a monthly income from tax payers.
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Re: The Dems... again GMdawg 06/17/26 03:52 PM
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And that's where I'm at.

Me as well.
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 06/17/26 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Jesus famously said, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's" (found in Matthew 22:21 and Mark 12:17). He spoke this to avoid a political trap, meaning people should fulfill their civic duties (like paying taxes) while dedicating their ultimate, spiritual allegiance to God.

And that's where I'm at. If you have to pay it anyway it's nice to see at least some of the money going back to the people who need it most.

And I'm not talking about healthy people who are able and fit to work unless their incomes are just so low they need some assistance. It doesn't make sense to me to live in a system where people aren't being paid enough to make a living but people begrudge those working or retired people benefits to help them make it. I would certainly agree that the current system of benefits isn't perfect. That it should be more closely monitored. But this crazy notion that everyone receiving such benefits are nothing but freeloaders looking for a handout is preposterous.
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Re: More Music Bard Dawg 06/17/26 03:06 PM
Tasty stuff, 'Peen. Really enjoyed the lyrics. Reminds me a bit of Papa John Creach album I owned. Song has its share of true grit,
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Re: Iran War II PitDAWG 06/17/26 02:56 PM
I've addressed are they just supposed to let them already. No they aren't. But we both know that there are other choices than simply carpet bombing civilian neighborhoods which is choosing to intentionally wipe out tens of thousands of innocent civilian lives. I'm not opposing Israel taking actions to protect themselves. I'm pointing out that first of all Netanyahu playing The Boy Who Cried wolf for three decades trying everything he can to get a partner to invade Iran combined with making the choice to defend his nation by intentionally slaughtering all of those civilians is not justifiable by you or anyone else. Nobody forced him to make that decision.

You totally dismissed that point as well as Israel being Iran's neighbor and how they already have nuclear weapons. When you combine that with Netanyahu's war cries which he has been espousing for decades now it only makes sense that Iran would want to be able to respond in kind should the need arise.

That doesn't mean I want them to have a nuclear weapon. It simply means I understand why they want one. None of that means I'm against Israel defending themselves. But look at some of the comments you have made in describing Iran as terrorists. One of those points was slaughtering their own innocent civilians. I'm not sure how you can justify when someone else does it for them.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 bonefish 06/17/26 02:28 PM
The Braves traded to get All Star catcher Sean Murphy three years ago.

However, he has had injury nightmares. Hip surgery then a broken finger.

The bright side is a young catcher named Drake Baldwin got a chance to play.

And play he did. In 2025 he won ROY.

He started this year on fire. Hitting 303 with 13 HR's and 38 RBI's. This young man can barrel balls like nobody's business. He then strained an oblique and missed 24 games.

He plays one game in a minor league rehab assignment. Bangs a home run.

Starts last night's game and hits lead off.

First at bat. Count goes to 3-0. He takes a strike. Next pitch dead center 473 ft. away the longest home run in MLB this year.

I love this guy. He is thrilling to watch. His barrel rate is off the charts. This young man has a hellava future.
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Re: What If? Day of the Dawg 06/17/26 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
The two best things that could happen but cannot be counted on.

Matt Stafford gets injured and the Rams win like 3 games.

Shedeur Sanders wins games and leads the Browns into the playoffs. He plays at a level that puts the case to draft a QB to bed.

Ya never know about guys who are playing QB in the NFL at age 38. Stafford dealt with a significant aggravated disc (bulging/herniated disc) in his back last year. So it is within reason that he could have problems.

Shedeur is a different case. It is difficult to evaluate a rookie 5th round pick. He was never intended to start last year.

So he started seven games with little preparation. In addition, he had a really poor supporting cast. Bad OL, lousy receivers, inadequate running game. He played about as well as could be expected. He was inconsistent. He showed accuracy when not pressured. Flashed better mobility than expected. However, his biggest flaw was slow processing.

The new offense has different players and the coaching staff has changed. Early reports from OTA's are encouraging. according to the coaching staff and Berry. They are happy with his improvements.

Obviously OTA's are very limited. No pads, no real competition.

Until camp and pre-season games take place. Not much can be drawn from where we are today.

IMO Shedeur should be the starter. I see no benefit from starting DW at all. He is not the future of this team.

Hopefully Shedeur earns the starter's role. If so, then it is all in his court.

I am not placing bets or quoting odds. If he plays everyone can see for themselves.

So, there is a chance that things could go our way.

At the same time all eyes will be on the college quarterback class of 2027.

I think if all things are equal the Browns will name Sanders the starter. If they do name Watson, the starter that will tell us what they actually think about Sanders as a future QB.
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Re: What If? bonefish 06/17/26 01:55 PM
The two best things that could happen but cannot be counted on.

Matt Stafford gets injured and the Rams win like 3 games.

Shedeur Sanders wins games and leads the Browns into the playoffs. He plays at a level that puts the case to draft a QB to bed.

Ya never know about guys who are playing QB in the NFL at age 38. Stafford dealt with a significant aggravated disc (bulging/herniated disc) in his back last year. So it is within reason that he could have problems.

Shedeur is a different case. It is difficult to evaluate a rookie 5th round pick. He was never intended to start last year.

So he started seven games with little preparation. In addition, he had a really poor supporting cast. Bad OL, lousy receivers, inadequate running game. He played about as well as could be expected. He was inconsistent. He showed accuracy when not pressured. Flashed better mobility than expected. However, his biggest flaw was slow processing.

The new offense has different players and the coaching staff has changed. Early reports from OTA's are encouraging. according to the coaching staff and Berry. They are happy with his improvements.

Obviously OTA's are very limited. No pads, no real competition.

Until camp and pre-season games take place. Not much can be drawn from where we are today.

IMO Shedeur should be the starter. I see no benefit from starting DW at all. He is not the future of this team.

Hopefully Shedeur earns the starter's role. If so, then it is all in his court.

I am not placing bets or quoting odds. If he plays everyone can see for themselves.

So, there is a chance that things could go our way.

At the same time all eyes will be on the college quarterback class of 2027.
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Re: More Music bonefish 06/17/26 12:26 PM
AI.

But it is a damn good song.
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Re: More Music Ballpeen 06/17/26 12:14 PM
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Re: Iran War II Bull_Dawg 06/17/26 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Once again using the actions of terrorists to conduct yourself in the same way terrorists do is not a legitimate excuse nor an attractive one.

What isn't an appropriate response is slaughtering tens of thousands of civilians. None of that is complicated nor controversial unless of course you are intent on trying to make it sound that way.

With Israel having 90 nuclear war heads I can understand their neighbors feeling vulnerable without any.

There are two sides to the coin for anyone willing to flip it over and take a look.

What you have seen from me in this thread have been counterpoints to your arguments. That isn't placing all of the blame on Israel. And once again, if you were Iran what lengths do you feel you would need to go to to in order to protect yourself from a man who not only already has nukes but has been actively trying to gain support for invading your country for more than 30 years?


Iran has actually been "invading" (/trying to destroy) Israel through proxies (and itself) for decades. Iran is the country that doesn't place value on human life that doesn't agree with them. Iran (and its proxies) is the group that thinks dying in jihad will grant them passage to paradise. (Un)"Holy Wars" are the worst. There's no reasoning with religious fanatics.

Let me try putting my thoughts a different way. I see the logic sort of like the Trolley Problem. If given a choice between pulling a lever to divert a train from tracks with 5 people tied to the rails to switch it to tracks with 5 people limping across it, do you pull the lever? Personally, I think blaming the person who has to make the horrific choice makes less sense than blaming the person that tied the people to the tracks.

In Gaza, Hamas is the group putting civilians in danger on purpose. If you look at the first quote in the post immediately preceding yours. The Hamas "luminary" talks about intentionally sacrificing martyrs. Hamas is intentionally staging attacks from highly populated areas, giving Israel the choice of either potentially killing civilians or knowing that Hamas is going to try to destroy their civilization from those locations. It really is rather diabolical from Hamas. From their perspective, they win either way. Martyrdom is an honor to them. Do you just let the terrorists launch rockets and drones from those locations? There's time crunch, you can't plan the perfect attack. You try to get the civilians out of the way. Does letting them lob rockets unchecked make sense?

The "neighbors" are the aggressors. Iran is the one threatening to wipe a state out of existence. Is Israel and the world just supposed to sit there and let them? Hamas doesn't have to stage in civilian areas. They could function as regular, legal militaries instead of terror networks purposefully trying to get civilians killed.
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Re: The Dems... again MemphisBrownie 06/17/26 11:00 AM


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Re: The Dems... again GMdawg 06/17/26 08:53 AM
Jesus famously said, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's" (found in Matthew 22:21 and Mark 12:17). He spoke this to avoid a political trap, meaning people should fulfill their civic duties (like paying taxes) while dedicating their ultimate, spiritual allegiance to God.
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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 06/17/26 07:44 AM
Gabriel is #6
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Re: What If? FORTBROWNFAN 06/17/26 03:14 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
That would go over like a pork chop in a synagogue.



[Linked Image from u.cubeupload.com]

Who is the QB on the left. Do we currently have a QB with that number?
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Re: The Dems... again oobernoober 06/17/26 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
It does not say set up a government to take from some to give to others. It is instruction to his church how they are to meet needs.

It's an instruction to everyone. All people, regardless of culture/tribe.


So while it's not necessarily pointing at the US government, it is talking to people who would call themselves believers.
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