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It's hard YTown. I lost both of my parents decades ago. None of this is about me. But I thought I would share my experience and what helped me deal with it. The thing that helped me most was coming to grips with the fact that a long, drawn out grieving process is not what they would want for me. That the best thing I could do to honor them would be to honor their wishes. In order to do that I needed to live my best life and do it in a manner that would be respectful to how they would want me to live. I think it made me a better man and human being overall.

But that takes time. It doesn't happen overnight and each persons timeline is different. I know that doesn't really help you now with this all being so raw and so fresh. But hopefully in time it will be of service to you.

Thank you very much. It's been hard. My brother has Parkinson's, and has been pushing himself to try to get things done, and it's affecting him badly.

It's been a lot.

I am remembering just how much Mom was involved in almost every part of our lives. There was always someone wiser to talk to. That's a huge loss. I almsot called her last night.

My only comment would be that Lamar fell to the 32nd pick in the draft. Barely in the first round but still at the end of it. Green was the 182nd overall pick (sixth round).

To some people that means nothing. For me it speaks volumes. As I said, it's not "impossible" for Green to eventually grow into being a starting QB.

The odds of a sixth-round quarterback pick becoming a long-term NFL starter are low, typically estimated around 5% to 6.38% based on historical data.

Roughly 36% to 50% of first-round quarterbacks become successful, long-term NFL starters.

It appears all 32 NFL GM's do not view him at the value you and some others do.

To me those numbers actually mean something. If you choose to ignore them that's fine.

The bazaar scenario that may unfold is that after all this nonsense with Watson he may end up starting for us and help us become a winner this season. Only the Browns LOL😂

They would be foolish not to. He has more potential than Lamar. I don’t know what Lamar’s numbers were at the combine but it would be hard to imagine they were as good as Taylens.

That was the other one mentioned ... they mentioned Warner too. Hell's teeth. "Well over 20 years" makes me feel ancient.

Hey YTown,

I am so sorry to hear about your mom. My most heartfelt condolences and prayers to you, her and the rest of your family.

I remember Bill Poilan and others say Lamar will not make it as a quarterback.

When I watched his college tape that draft year. I thought he was a long way from being a throwing quarterback.

He had terrible mechanics. His base was narrow. He was way too upright. Highly inaccurate especially outside the numbers.

He hardly engaged his lower half when throwing. His completion percentage in college was 57%.

Lamar was asked "would you consider being a receiver?" His was "I am a quarterback."

Green IMO is farther along as a quarterback than Lamar. Lamar was 32nd pick.

The college numbers between Green and Lamar are not dramatically different. Lamar ran more and scored more TD's total.

Green has to prove that he is a quarterback who can thrive in the NFL.

I think the Browns plan on giving him a chance to prove what he can do.

You know I read your post and was almost optimistic for a moment.

This war is absolutely crazy. Hegseth this week was an utter embarrassment and is being ridiculed in the EU news.... well I say ridiculed, they have quoted what he said. smh.

As Pit has already mentioned - al be it a little more aggressively - no-one said wealth is bad or vilified the wealthy. You said everyone who has a 401K is getting rich in response to GM saying the rich are getting richer. . . . I simply pointed out that your statement basically confirms what GM said. If the markets go up - it is the Rich getting richer disproportionately compared to other classes. You or I or others on the board could even have a lovely nest egg and have a million or two stashed away .... we would still be falling way behind the 1% even if we'd be doing 100 times better than the average citizen.

Trump says Iranians have "agreed to everything," including removal of enriched uranium

President Trump said in a phone interview that Iran has "agreed to everything," and will work with the U.S. to remove its enriched uranium.

He insisted that doing so will not involve U.S. ground troops. But when asked who would retrieve it, he would only say "our people."

"No. No troops," he said. "We'll go down and get it with them, and then we'll take it. We'll be getting it together because by that time, we'll have an agreement and there's no need for fighting when there's an agreement. Nice right? That's better. We would have done it the other way if we had to."

The president said the material would then be brought to the U.S.

"Our people, together with the Iranians, are going to work together to go get it. And then we'll take it to the United States," he said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...g-including-removal-of-enriched-uranium/

The war is OVER!!!

No, no wait. He said that back on April 17th. It was a lie....... again.

I certainly agree with you. That's why I think he was drafted late with a certain purpose in mind. As you stated the odds are very long of him ever being a starting NFL QB. And I'm not saying this FO is ruling that out as a possibility. (I'm being very careful so the "YOU'RE BEING NEGATIVE" crowd doesn't try to climb up my azz again.)

But his skill set I believe would make it easy to put him in on some downs for the RPO option. He certainly can throw and run quite well. Monken has a lot of plays designed in his playbook for Lamar that he could apply when putting Green in on packages.

Warner is well over 20 years anyway. Kirk Cousins would be another one that comes to mind.

So what? He pointed out that the wealthiest 10% of Americans own 87.2% of the stock market. It shows that the vast majority of the stock market increase goes to the wealthy. Those are the very same people that paying more for gas isn't as much of a burden as those who make much less.


Who said anything vilifying the rich here? Stating actual facts and statistics isn't vilifying anyone. Dear Lord man.


The top 20% of households holding approximately $49.1 trillion in equities and mutual funds. First nobody "did that" and secondly you're fixated on something that doesn't hold a candle to the wealth being discussed here.

Ok...so what?

I don't say that because I don't want others to share in the wealth. I just don't see how vilifying wealth is somehow going to help. To some wealth is a dirty word.

My feeling is before we do that, lets wipe out all the fraud money going to the slugs of society and sharing it with the folks who are trying and need an extra boost before we start pointing fingers at people who are deemed to be making too much money.

IMO from what I have seen of him speaking and what the Browns have stated in regards to him.

He is a quarterback period.

He is not going to play another position.

He will either develop as a quarterback or at some point be released or traded.

IMO he was worth taking where he was selected. There is little risk and there is potential.

How he develops or if he develops remains to be seen.

He is obviously a gifted athlete with crazy combine numbers. Numbers no QB prospect has ever put up.

He has also played a lot of football as a quarterback.

He will be on a specific developmental program. As with any player drafted when he was. You earn more opportunities by what you do.

He is now on a path for his foot steps alone.

GM's comment is a very well worn saying but it's never been more true. The rich are getting richer and it is at the expense of the (what is traditionally called) middle and working classes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

In 2025, the wealthiest 1% of Americans owned nearly 50% of the stock market. The top 10% own 87.2%, and the bottom half owned 1.1%.

So while anyone with a 401K or investments is 'getting richer' - the divide is ever ever ever widening and increasing.

Anybody with a 401K is getting richer. That is a lot of people that wouldn't be considered rich by most people.

Maybe even possible. For that reason I don't rule out QB, but knowing the odds I would examine other avenues to tap in to his undeniable physical talent.

Unless everybody gets hurt, he isn't going to see any, or much time at QB. He can see time at some other position.

I read somewhere about the number of high quality starting NFL QB's there have been that were taken in the 3rd round or later in the last 20 something years. The answer was maybe 2? Brock Purdy being one. Wilson the other. Then you had Warner who wasn't drafted.

The odds for Sanders, Gabriel or Green making an impact are very long - it does not mean they can't ... just that the very large pool of data shows how challenging it will be. Green is something of a freak of nature and it's enticing to think of ways to use that athleticism - but there is still a large gulf between what might be and what is probable.

Sure it does just like it always has. The rich keep getting richer.

I'm so sorry to hear this. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

DOW up 800 points despite this. Nothing makes sense anymore.

Thank you everyone. It was somewhat like having God just turning off the switch so she wouldn't suffer ... and for that I am grateful, even though it hurts.

Prayers and condolences, Y-town, for you and all who loved her. Peace and healing.