Re: Quarterbacks
hitt
09/20/26 12:39 AM
Just watched OS Sayin- he throws a nice ball BUT- as the commentators pointed out, he doesn't see the whole field AT ALL. He locks on to his first read and throws it.....one pass thrown to Smith/well covered- there was a guy running COMPLETELY free in middle of field and he never gave the guy a glance- and easy touchdown missed......I would NEVER draft him.....his mind isn't quick enough.......I ain't saying I'm quick, just he doesn't have field vision.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
DeisleDawg
09/19/26 11:16 PM
A bit premature, but I will play anyway.
The Browns "shoulda" hired Schwartz as head coach, "woulda" promoted Tarver to DC, and "coulda" looked to hire an OC.
Again, a bit premature, but I think that "woulda" been a better option. Browns "Shoulda" kept Stefanski "Woulda promoted Shedure to starting QB "Coulda" proved that no matter what they do, it just sucks ! lol
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
Bard Dawg
09/19/26 11:02 PM
I am aware of the dead cap. For discussion, regardless of cost, we shoulda eaten it and got rid of him. A lot of the issues would be reframed. The choices more defined. We damned the cost when we wrote it and issued it. Suddenly it is imperative. I do not like this situation at all and I believe your information is correct and thorough. But had we done differently, then we would have different results, and other options. Nobody says we must solve it. We insisted on our dilemma. My response tried to re-work the framework. This is so SNAFU from the outset, and the due diligence (DO the due diligence!) a fail, we are again shattered by trying to be the smartest team in the room. Some posters just want to poke fingers and fix blame (more woulda, coulda, shoulda) that helps nothing and fixes less. Other folks manage this splendidly; why does it elude the Browns? Nobody is keeping the answer secret. Any fans going down the rabbit hole again better drop bread crumbs too find their way back to Berea.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
bugs
09/19/26 09:07 PM
Schwartz was a good DC because of Myles Garrett. I'm not saying Schwartz is not a good DC, but having Myles does make things easier. You have to ask yourself if Schwartz would be any more effective than Rutenberg with Verse.
You are assuming Schwartz would have hired a qualified OC. Maybe the OC he wanted wasn't what the organization wanted, or he was not better than Monken. Being that the majority of the talent was on defense, it was easier to hire a young DC.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
PitDAWG
09/19/26 04:30 PM
As sad as it is to say or admit, you are 100% correct. Restructuring these contracts can sometimes end up with unintended and drastic consequences no matter how brilliant some make them out to be.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
bonefish
09/19/26 04:30 PM
Staying on the topic headlines.
One can easily imagine a confidential conversation between Haslam, Berry and Monken.
"We want to improve and we are hopeful we can. At the same time we recognize where we are as a team. We have a young roster. We are starting an entirely new offensive line. We have brand new coordinators and head coach. We traded away our best player on defense. We have to be realistic about what we can do this year."
"We need to play the quarterbacks on the roster and find out if any of them can fit into our future plans." "Todd it is your team to decide who plays. But we need some answers by the end of the season. We have a draft coming in 27 where there are a number of good looking quarterback prospects. We will draft a quarterback. So do your best to develop the roster and we will accept the results. Bear in mind we need to see the quarterbacks that are on the roster at some point."
I do not think Haslam would say we want you to tank. At the same time I don't think they should. But the cards need to be face up on the table.
Monken will face heat this year. But I think Haslam and Berry know what is on his plate and what needs to happen.
SS will play. DG will probably play as well. Green will have situational plays for him.
What ever the record ends up being will happen organically. We could end up with the first pick or near the top for sure.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
YTownBrownsFan
09/19/26 04:22 PM
Browns coulda dropped DW and eaten the loss. Keeping him now for the money considerations, and I see no way forward that includes him. We shoulda kept Schwartz; last game was a larger step backward than I anticipated. We woulda been ahead with a few more veterans, because MG's loss has more impact than we have seen yet. Cute mental exercise to show common ground in Browns fans. But we have managed two things: First, we failed to address QB even in our own room, and we wasted time and reps doing so. Second, our basic fundamentals, especially tackling, blocking, pass rushing, and play mix are not going resemble how we see winning teams demonstrate. Cringe-worthy it is. There is no way the Browns could have dropped Watson this season. The cap hit would have just destroyed their ability to field a team. They had to play out this team, and then designate him as a post June release so they can split the total left at that point between 2027 and 2028. If we had just dumped him this year, the dead cap was something like $128 million.
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Re: Browns News cont.
Bard Dawg
09/19/26 03:48 PM
He did more to "make" SS IMO versus SS on his own skills. This is the Bigs, and someone decided SS couldn't manage it on his own. Disappointing.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
Bard Dawg
09/19/26 03:43 PM
Browns coulda dropped DW and eaten the loss. Keeping him now for the money considerations, and I see no way forward that includes him. We shoulda kept Schwartz; last game was a larger step backward than I anticipated. We woulda been ahead with a few more veterans, because MG's loss has more impact than we have seen yet. Cute mental exercise to show common ground in Browns fans. But we have managed two things: First, we failed to address QB even in our own room, and we wasted time and reps doing so. Second, our basic fundamentals, especially tackling, blocking, pass rushing, and play mix are not going resemble how we see winning teams demonstrate. Cringe-worthy it is.
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Re: The Dems......again
FATE
09/19/26 03:39 PM
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should
FATE
09/19/26 03:21 PM
A bit premature, but I will play anyway.
The Browns "shoulda" hired Schwartz as head coach, "woulda" promoted Tarver to DC, and "coulda" looked to hire an OC.
Again, a bit premature, but I think that "woulda" been a better option. You know, "coulda, woulda, shoulda" is basically a hindsight type proposition. But here's the thing: you would think an NFL front office would have better foresight. If the plan was to forge ahead and give Watson a fighting chance... knowing full well there was no way in hell you're re-signing him... your scenario makes waaay more sense as far as moving forward. Because obviously, there's no confidence that a fQB is on the roster. Let Schwartz continue to do what he does best, draft your QB in 2027, if the current OC isn't a fit, custom fit the new OC to the QB. Now you've given Monken a soft seat in the QB draft talks; which will either appease him or piss him off. Next stop: start all over and leave a new QB in a two-year state of flux.
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