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I don't think anyone is upset that they have to pay for a streaming service to watch the games.. I think it is because they have to pay for 4-5 different streaming services. I get them all anyway and it is annoying trying to figure out which game is on. I can't imagine those who don't have all these services having to sign up for them just to watch a few football games.

If you're a little short on activity upstairs and only interested in spending every waking moment as an internet troll; this is a "joke about rape":

Your networks report almost nothing on illegals killing US citizens.

The right tells me what to think, but the left does not? That's criminally stupid, although I'm not surprised.

Sheridan Gorman, a Loyola University Chicago student, was allegedly killed by Jose Medina, described in the cited report as an illegal immigrant from Venezuela; the same report says ABC, CBS, and NBC gave it only brief airtime, with CBS at about two minutes, ABC at 79 seconds, and NBC at 23 seconds.

Stephanie Minter, 41, was reportedly stabbed to death near Mount Vernon, Virginia, and the cited report says the alleged killer, Abdul Jalloh, was an illegal immigrant with more than 30 arrests; it also says ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and NPR were searched without finding coverage.

Rachel Morin, a Maryland mother, was killed by an undocumented migrant, and the cited coverage-analysis reports say the network news mention was only 12 seconds across the big three, compared with much heavier coverage of the Kilmar Abrego Garcia deportation case.

DaCara Thompson, a 19-year-old Black woman in Maryland, was allegedly murdered by Hugo Hernandez-Mendez, described in the cited report as an illegal immigrant; that report says the story got zero network coverage.

Laken Riley was killed by an undocumented immigrant, and the cited report says major networks largely skipped or minimized the story while it became a major political issue elsewhere.

Jocelyn Nungaray’s killing was also referenced in the cited coverage critique as a case that received far less network attention than other immigration stories.

I would just ignore my posts then. I asked a question because this is a discussion forum. Essentially, you're saying "shut up and Google it for yourself". So, honestly, don't even reply to my posts, that will take you zero seconds.

Have a nice day.

Actually, that's simply not true. "Lefty" networks as you call them report the exact same stuff... The difference is the "Righty" networks tell you want to think of things that report.... The main stream media reports what's happened or what is said, then they leave it to you to decide what it's about and what it means.,

But I get why you don't like the Main Stream or "Lefty Media,.... None of them are kissing trumps Butt....

Again, seek help. You seldom know what you're even talking about. Gonzo was in a consensual relationship. That will never be "rape". Rape is what you do with our allotted server space here. You rape it with some of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on the internet.

And Trump didn't rape anyone either; nor get "convicted for it".

Ok. I'll take you at your word.

For someone genuinely curious, the answer took about 12 seconds. A little longer than it took you to write the additional sentence at the end of your post.

Putting all that aside. Assuming the accusations are true, and there is no reason I see to doubt them, I hope Swalwell roasts in hell for eternity after serving the maximum punishment possible.

JD has had a bit of a rough go of it..,

Visits a Pope, Pope Dies... Campaigns for his Half Brother who was running for Cincinnati Mayor, Brother (Bowman) loses in a landslide... Campaigns for Viktor Orban with Trump on the Phone, Orban loses in a landslide.... Tries to settle the Iran War, Wasn't able to get the Job Done.....

Not a good look.. Wonder if he's tired of winning yet?

I didn't write nonsense; I asked a simple question. Lefty networks are very choosy about what they report. I'm genuinely curious because this seems like a well-orchestrated coup by the Demons in charge. Swalli was obviously overstepping his boundaries and quest for power. Nancy said "no-no" (just my opinion) and they had this dude primed for prison time in three days flat. Talk about Epic Fury!

What's bizarre is that you can't seem to see the result is the same,, RAPE. And therefore the conclusion should be the same... FIRED, QUIT, RESIGN whatever... Be Gone..

Next, why don't you get trump out of office.. Pretty clear he did the same thing... Even got convicted for it.

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Disagree.

The USA isn't going to initiate or block a Russian, Chinese or Indian vessel. A Chinese vessel sailed thru after the announcement already. Saudi Arabia is getting antsi ... All Trump continues to do is prove the US is unstable and push former allies away while paving the way for China to look stable and a more attractive partner. Coming soon .... De-dollarization and loss of US $ power and influence

If you prefer:

Took 12 seconds. But instead you wrote something that was nonsense.

I agree with what you're saying, but my response isn't a reply to your last post.


I live in Cinci. I get a decent proportion of Browns games on cable here.

Over the years, I purchased NFL Sunday ticket twice. Both times I ended up cancelling before the season was out, resulting in mixed results getting refunds.

If my team's game was on locally, then I couldn't stream it via Sunday ticket. If it was Monday or Thursday night football, couldn't stream it. If it was some random game on some random streaming service (Peacock), then couldn't stream it.

How that can be true and they still charge the flat (and exhorbitant) rate for Sunday ticket in the year 2025 is mind-boggling.

But to your earlier point, I just stopped paying.

Yeah, asking if liberal media outlets carried the story isn't BS in trumplandia.

Nobody "spread b.s.", you're demented. Pull that wedgie out and move on with your day.

That's who he is. It's been covered on every news outlet I've seen. But hey, making a joke out of rape is all the rage in trumplandia these days. When they elect a man that's been accused of sexual misconduct by 28 women what else can you expect from them? All they have in response is just crazy BS like that. Even a jury found trump to be libel of sexual assault. But hey, in their world that makes him eligible to be the leader of our country. Freedumb! Murica!

https://www.ms.now/news/eric-swalwell-rape-allegation-lonna-drewes

Took less than 12 seconds. But instead of doing that, spread BS. Good stuff.

j/c... I can definitely see both sides of this broadcast argument. Hopefully, the investigation can be impetus for changing archaic rules that have governed the NFL... the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 requires games to be on free, over-the-air television. Once there was cable, sports leagues just treated that as a natural exemption. Now, with streaming, things are getting out of hand.

The fragmentation is out of hand. Imagine renting an apartment where year after year they take rooms away from you? "Sorry Bub, this guy just rented your closet." That's something that will have to change. If you're paying for all the games - you get all the games. Driving up the bidding war by taking something away from others is bad business. So, Peacock (or whoever) can have exclusivity, but only to the point of not violating other consumer deals.

And local games should always be free, that's the actual spirit of the current laws in place. If the Browns play on Peacock, the game will either have to be broadcast by a sister station, or a "free watch" code be provided.

just my .02

j/c...

Pretty poignant testimony. Anybody see this on the lefty networks? Not really sure if they show this stuff over there in Lala Land.

They had a consensual relationship. That CANNOT be that hard to understand. You sound like you think he set her on fire. Is that what you think?

I'm wishing for Peace on Earth and goodwill toward the Browns.

??? Consensual Suicide ??? Really... the person killed herself by "self immolation" which is lighting yourself on fire!

from wikipedia

"In 2026, Gonzales initially ran for re-election. He faced and denied allegations of a sexual affair with a staffer who had later killed herself by self-immolation.[12] After failing to secure more than 50% of the vote in the primary on March 3, he was set to face Brandon Herrera in a runoff scheduled for May 2026. On March 4, Gonzales admitted to the affair,[13] dropping his re-election campaign amid pressure from party leadership the following day.[14] On April 13, 2026, he announced he would resign.[15][16]"

I think it's simply a matter of people in general who don't like having to pay the added cost of streaming services to watch NFL games. Back in the day even local teams weren't televised if the games weren't sold out. That rule didn't change until 2015. Only then were all local games televised whether they were sold out or not. Browns games have traditionally pretty much always sold out so I don't think Browns fans in general noticed much if any difference at the time.

I do understand the aggravation of having to pay the additional costs. But many complaining are same people who were happy streaming services came along to break up the monopoly of the cable companies and to give them more viewing option. And I'm willing to bet a lot of the people complaining are the same people that have no problem paying between $5 and $7 dollars for a latte at Starbucks.

At my age I've learned that people love things when it works to their benefit but as soon as it doesn't they complain about it. It brings up the old adage "Be careful what you wish for."

I wonder if many of those who don't like the streaming are of an older demographic. I am in my mid 60s, and it is so different than the days when we were young and all games (at least your local teams) were on free TV.

However, for the last 15 years or so when I follow the Browns, I have the radio on to listen and the TV muted. This was probably because of how much I enjoyed Jim Donovan's play by play and enthusiasm. I miss listening to him and Dieken so much. I have never paid to stream a game but someday I may, who knows?

Saying that, I don't think this is where the government should be getting involved.