Re: Iranian War
PitDAWG
04/11/26 04:37 PM
Nothing like ratcheting up the situation just as you're entering into peace talks says good faith and sets a positive tone for the negotiations.
Did I need purple font for that?
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Re: Iranian War
northlima dawg
04/11/26 04:25 PM
This looks only to be a couple hours old.
Iran threatens to attack US Navy ships entering Strait of Hormuz after first American vessels moved through channel
Iran threatened to attack any US Navy ships that enter the Strait of Hormuz shortly after American vessels moved through the channel for the first time since the war broke out.
Tehran warned Pakistani mediators that “if the vessel continues to move, it will be targeted within 30 minutes, and the Iranian-American negotiations will suffer,” a Foreign Ministry spokesperson told Khabar Network, according to Fars News Agency.
The warning comes just after reports broke that “multiple” US vessels had crossed the strait for the first time in months in a move that “was not coordinated with Iran.”
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Re: Iranian War
PitDAWG
04/11/26 04:18 PM
The U.S. has certainly sent a huge amount of weaponry to Ukraine. I also agree, as you pointed out, were ground weapons and not of the Naval artillery variety. Much of it was also more for defensive purposes and restricted to short range weapons that lacked the capability to reach deep inside of Russia. I'm sure there is some overlap however.
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Re: Iranian War
northlima dawg
04/11/26 04:18 PM
How many wars have you ever seen simply be paused to reload? I can't think of a single one, ever. I agree, probably not, but we have been sending a lot of munitions to Ukraine over the last several years, but it is noted most have been geared towards land assaults. yeah, a trillion to trillion and a half a year don't buy you much in ammo anymore. Maybe we should ask Ukraine if we could borrow some drones. Oh, yeah trump turned down Z
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Re: Iranian War
northlima dawg
04/11/26 04:15 PM
The Lebanon PM said that he is no longer coming next week to the United Nations and Washington DC to engage in de-escalation talks with Israel. They also say that Hezbollah also rejected negotiations with Israel. So I would assume Israel is loading up the bombers as we speak.
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Re: Iranian War
Ballpeen
04/11/26 03:46 PM
How many wars have you ever seen simply be paused to reload? I can't think of a single one, ever. I agree, probably not, but we have been sending a lot of munitions to Ukraine over the last several years, but it is noted most have been geared towards land assaults.
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Re: Iranian War
PitDAWG
04/11/26 03:22 PM
I don't support China doing any of this but from a strategic standpoint it makes sense. Back when smart people were in charge we were doing the exact same thing. We were furnishing Ukraine with enough support to fight one of our biggest "used to be enemies", Russia. Why wouldn't you? You keep your own troops at home and simply pay for the equipment to weaken your enemy. And we had Europe helping share that cost. It's much cheaper than fighting a war with them yourself.
So why wouldn't China, as well as Russia for that matter, do the same by helping fund Iran's war with the U.S.?
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Re: Iranian War
northlima dawg
04/11/26 03:00 PM
U.S. Intelligence Shows China Taking a More Active Role in Iran War China may have shipped missiles to Iran, and Beijing is allowing some companies to sell Tehran supplies that can be used in military production, American officials said.
Mark MazzettiEric SchmittJulian E. Barnes By Mark MazzettiEric Schmitt and Julian E. Barnes Reporting from Washington
April 11, 2026, 9:50 a.m. ET See more of our coverage in your search results. Add The New York Times on Google
American intelligence agencies have obtained information that China in recent weeks may have sent a shipment of shoulder-fired missiles to Iran for its conflict with the United States and Israel, according to U.S. officials.
The officials said that the intelligence is not definitive that the shipment has been sent, and that there is no evidence that the Chinese missiles have yet been used against American or Israeli forces during the conflict.
But even a debate in Beijing over sending missiles to Iran suggests the degree that China sees itself as having a stake in the conflict. Intelligence agencies have assessed that China is secretly taking an active stance in the war, allowing some companies to ship chemicals, fuel and components that can be used in military production to Iran for the war.
Shoulder fired missiles, known as MANPADS, are capable of shooting down low-flying aircraft.
China has long been reluctant to send finished military equipment to Iran, but some officials in the government want Beijing to allow its companies to directly supply the Iranian security forces during the conflict with the United States.
If the Chinese government did allow the shipment of missiles, it would be a significant escalation and an indication that at least some of China’s leaders are working actively to bring about an American military defeat in a war that has engulfed the Middle East.
The intelligence about possible Chinese support to Iran comes as American intelligence agencies have seen evidence that Russia has provided the Iranian military with specific satellite intelligence to help Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps target American ships, along with military and diplomatic installations throughout the Middle East.
Taken together, the military support to Iran shows how America’s powerful adversaries have seen an opportunity to raise the costs for the United States for launching the war and to potentially bog down the American military in the conflict.
Chinese support to Iran comes at a delicate moment in US-China relations. President Trump is planning next month to travel to China to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping, a summit that is expected to focus on a range of trade, technology and military issues. The summit was originally scheduled for March, but was delayed because of the Iran war.
American intelligence agencies have been carefully tracking what support Russia and China have provided to Iran during the war. American officials have seen Russia as more eager to help, sending food aid, nonlethal military supplies and satellite imagery to Tehran. But Moscow appears to have ruled out providing any offensive or defensive military equipment, for fear of provoking the United States.
Chinese officials overall have been eager to protect, at least publicly, their image as a neutral party. Former officials say that Iran is reliant on China for parts that go into its missiles and drones, but Beijing is able to argue that those components, however crucial, can be used to manufacture more than just weaponry. China also provided some intelligence and supplied dual-use parts to Iran, much as they provided to Russia during its war with Ukraine.
A CNN report on Saturday said that China was preparing to send a shipment of shoulder-fired missiles to Iran in the coming weeks.
A spokesman for China’s embassy to the United States strongly denied his government had shipped missiles to Iran during the war.
“China has never provided weapons to any party in the conflict; the information in question is untrue,” said Liu Pengyu, the spokesman. “As a responsible major country, China consistently fulfills its international obligations. We urge the U.S. side to refrain from making baseless allegations, maliciously drawing connections, and engaging in sensationalism; we hope that relevant parties will do more to help de-escalate tensions.”
China is heavily dependent on oil that passes through the Strait of Hormuz, and is anxious not to do anything that extends the war, according to American officials. At the same time, at least some Chinese officials are interested in supporting Tehran in a war that is seen as weakening American standing and strength.
China is Iran’s largest trading partner, and the largest purchaser of Iranian oil. According to a report by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, a group founded by Congress to examine America’s bilateral ties to China, “Chinese purchases account for roughly 90 percent of Iran’s exported oil, providing tens of billions of dollars in annual revenue that supports Iran’s government budget and military activities.”
Still, China experts have noted that China’s public rhetoric during the Iran war has been mostly neutral, possibly because of the deep economic ties that China has with Arab nations in the Persian Gulf which have been under attack by Iran during the conflict.
“If anything, they are siding rhetorically more so with their Gulf partners than with Iran,” said Henrietta Levin of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “The economic, the technological relationship, the energy relationship with the Gulf is in many ways more strategically significant for China than anything it has with Iran.”
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Re: Iranian War
Damanshot
04/11/26 12:12 PM
It's the Dems 2 who are radical. Yes,,, Sure.. A democrat called for the complete destruction of a society.. Yup...That is certainly proof positive that Dems are Radical... Sure Keep telling yourself that...
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Re: Iranian War
mgh888
04/11/26 08:19 AM
Just a lot of back and forth. I am sure the points change daily. One side is trying to save face and get as much as they can and the other is trying to reduce concessions. Except that's not actually accurate - there is a neutral and independent mediator in Pakistan. Pakistani Prime Minister Says Iran-U.S. Deal Includes Cease-Fire in Lebanon https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/ir...ase-fire-in-lebanon-lmkfdwq0ngZL6r9XMgtfThe attacks by Israel are just more confirmation that Israel and Netanyahu have their own agenda, are not interested in Peace or the opening of the Straits. When the war is over Israel will hold elections and Netanyahu will go to prison - he has no interest in an end to hostilities.
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Re: The Dems... again
mgh888
04/11/26 08:15 AM
As ever - if he's guilty I hope he faces the full weight of the law and is prosecuted and convicted. Not sure why he's considered a traitor for sexual misconduct.
Shame that wanting all politicians to pay for their illegal activities isn't common across all parties and all politicians. I mean we've got the Trump administration actively delaying the release of the Epstein files the most high profile sexual monster in recent history, together with Ghislaine Maxwell his chief partner in crime now in a minimum security prison - and It's a non story for some.
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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux
3rd_and_20
04/10/26 11:06 PM
Sorry if I posted this before, my memory is bad from my weed smoking days. It all starts coming back if you start smoking weed again. You just tend to substitute some of the names and places and rearrange a few stories here and there. 🤪 No can do! 29 years clean & sober & counting. Some of us have to quit.
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Re: Prayers please for my mom
FATE
04/10/26 09:56 PM
That's awesome! When you get to that age, it's all about will. I've seen a lot of people start to throw in the towel.
Grandma fell and broke her hip around Thanksgiving. She's 91. To make matters worse, she was in one of the worst hospitals (in the Villages in FL). They left her laying there for almost 72 hours before surgery. Out of surgery she got a UTI. Her demeanor was bad when she learned how long rehab would take.
Got ahead of schedule and got out. They told her to walk with a walker for the first two weeks, she got home and stuffed it in a closet the second she hit the door. She was back out on the golf course in early March.
Once she got her head straight, she said: "God gave me a challenge, I'm not going to fail. Too many people down here quit, I'm going to be an example".
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