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Re: OSU/ College Football PitDAWG 09/13/26 02:36 PM
I was paying a lot of attention to the QB's. In the first half I was confused about the hype when it came to Arch Manning. I certainly didn't see anything special there.

And while there is a lot of the season left to play, that second half was a work of art. To me that's the type of play that separates the special QB's from the not so special QB's.

What happens when the chips are down? How do you react when you need to be "special" and place the team on your back? Are you able to motivate and inspire team to play like they haven't been playing all day and lead them from many points back and steal a victory from the jaws of defeat?

On those counts I believe Arch passed the sniff test.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins PitDAWG 09/13/26 02:27 PM
Yes he did. You know that, I know that and every honest person even if they're unwilling to admit it knows that.

He made it clear that if enough of you vote for the GOP so the GOP maintains control of the House and senate, he will pay everyone 5k. Pretending to be obtuse about that isn't attractive.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 09/13/26 02:20 PM
Believing something doesn't make it true.

I'm glad that you are finally willing to admit that pointing out that your "feelings" don't make things true annoys you. That helps explain a lot.
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Re: OSU/ College Football waterdawg 09/13/26 01:24 PM
Ohio State was so out coached in he second half.. Manning could have backed a cake while sitting in the backfield.. Not getting other WR's involved during the game was crazy .. Leaving points on the field (first half was nuts ) ,, Shoot the list goes on and on ! And yes , Texas deserves the win
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Re: The Dems......again MemphisBrownie 09/13/26 12:54 PM


Oh, the irony.
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Re: OSU/ College Football 3rd_and_20 09/13/26 09:39 AM
j/c:

I recorded the Ohio State/Texas game yesterday and just watched it this morning. That was a tough loss. I have to hand it to Texas, they hung in there when I thought it was over (halftime).
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? mgh888 09/13/26 08:32 AM
The 2020 election was not stolen.
There was no mass voter fraud.
No secret fraudulaent ballots were "found" after 2. a.m. in a few key areas.


Those are all lies and not factual.

If you disagree feel free to provide me the details and proof. You'll be the first person on the planet to do so.

If you can't provide proof or even some details - then you're free to belive in fairy tales and make up scenarios where you dismiss completely and entirely the details and facts as we know them. That's a you problem not a me problem.


On the larger picture of mass voter fraud and if there are election results being altered by fraud - we have agreed that the only "proof" and evidence we have shows conclusively that there is no such fraud. . . . Your position seems to be that the process of these findings **might*** be tainted: they might not know what they were looking for, the people investingating had a bias towards the findings, the people were idiots, the process itself was faulty or corrupt. And - in general I would say all of those things are possible even if I don't think them to be probable or likely. But they are possible. What I find improbable to the point of being probably impossible - is voter fraud being present in sufficient numbers that it might even sniff at the possibility of changing the outcome of an election - and somehow multiple states - some of whom had a reason and hoped to find fraud - and 60 plus different court cases in different juristictions with all the different individuals (left, right, neutral, competent and incompetent and every chade in between) .... NONE OF THEM FOUND A DAMN THING. The Heritage Foundation which is right wing and has an agenda - has tracked and researched voter fraud and it's own data shows that same thing. So yes - while in a single sample, a small sample size, what you suggest might be possible even if not probable .... but we have a large sample size. 12 million+ ballots. Some of it analized at a very detailed level - some of it at surface level only. 64 court cases - not a small number given the process and (hopefully if we want to have some faith in the nation) given the quality of individuals involved in the courts .... and NOTHING. Statistically even when looking for the unlikeliest of events and probabilities .... what you are clinging to desperately "JUST BECASUE" is a non-starter. But as I said - you can believe what you choose and that's a you problem not a me problem .... to engage me on this again or make me reconsider you need to bring something of substance, which to date you have absolutely not done.
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread Floquinho 09/13/26 04:55 AM
Originally Posted by bugs
I believe we are way over-depressing ourselves. As Bob Marley always sang, "Don't worry, be happy!"

Constant losing seeps into the walls. It drains the players, coaches, and fans of their enthusiasm, joy, and energy. Eventually, losing becomes a habit—and, as with everything else in life, habits are the hardest things to break.

During my years as a Browns fan, there have only been a few periods when the team genuinely appeared capable of breaking that cycle—most notably in 2020 and toward the end of the 2023 season. On both occasions, it required players and coaches with either an incredibly strong positive drive or an extraordinary mentality to overcome all the negative forces surrounding an organization accustomed to losing.

Jim Schwartz had the right qualities to challenge the negative thinking and bad habits within the organization. Compare that with Kevin Stefanski, who was slowly worn down by poor results and questionable decisions until he ultimately became the very image of what a loser looks like.

More than anything else, the Cleveland Browns need players and coaches with the leadership qualities and mental toughness required to change the atmosphere within the organization.

Can Andrew Berry honestly be described as a winner—or has he become part of the losing culture?

Which players today possess the leadership qualities needed to bring the rest of the locker room with them and finally end the acceptance of poor results?

The Browns must identify coaches and players who possess a genuine will to win and who hate losing more than anything else. It will take something extraordinary to wash away decades of shattered confidence, lack of belief, and acceptance of failure.

Baker Mayfield was never the best quarterback in the league, but he possessed some of the fire, defiance, and competitive spirit that this organization so clearly lacks. Love him or hate him, the Browns need another young quarterback with a similar mentality, because arm talent and strong legs are only half the package.
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Re: GM has passed YTownBrownsFan 09/13/26 04:11 AM
I just wanted to share a verse that was in my devotion tonight.

2 Corinthians 4: 16-18

Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by bugs
I predict the Browns won't make the Super Bowl, and it'll still be a fun season!

We will discover that the newbies are fun to watch.

We will also find out that this team is a lot better than we think.

We will all worry that we won't be in the right draft position to draft a QB.

Just like Baltimore when they drafted Lamar Jackson, the Browns will get their franchise QB!

I believe we are way over-depressing ourselves. As Bob Marley always sang, "Don't worry, be happy!"

I hope Bob was right in Three Little Birds.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 11:22 PM
There were claims that nothing in his post was true. If he believes it, it's true that he believes it.

Again, it's certain posters false absolutist approaches that annoy me.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
At no time in our nation's history has a sitting president ever offered a cash reward directly for votes.

...And they still haven't.
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Re: Random NFL News Pdawg 09/12/26 09:46 PM
Apparently I can’t add. I subtracted instead of adding. I knew it was 14 hours from here because I have friends over there
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread bugs 09/12/26 08:55 PM
I listened to both versions. Well, I'll be a son of a gun! Thanks for pointing that out! I take back 3% of what I've said wrong about you! naughtydevil
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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward northlima dawg 09/12/26 08:28 PM
U.S. Links Chinese Satellite Imagery to Iranian Strike That Killed Three Troops
Finding deepens U.S.-China tensions ahead of the Trump-Xi summit as officials examine possible Chinese help tracking American warships



Servicemen carry the casket of Pvt. Isabella Gonzales, draped with an American flag, during her funeral service.
The casket of one of the U.S. victims killed in an Iranian attack on Muwaffaq Salti Air Base. Joel Angel Juarez/Reuters
By
Vera Bergengruen
,
Shelby Holliday
and
Anika Arora Seth
Updated Sept. 11, 2026 9:57 pm ET

Before Iran carried out its attack that killed three U.S. troops in July, Tehran acquired high-resolution satellite images of the base in Jordan from Chinese entities, according to U.S. officials familiar with details of the incident.

It is the clearest evidence so far that Chinese support for Iran during the war has had lethal consequences for U.S. forces, according to the officials, who say the U.S. has connected the imagery to the attack.

The U.S. officials declined to identify the Chinese entities that supplied the imagery to Iran and didn’t allege direct involvement by Beijing. Tehran procured the images both before and after the attack.

But the finding could deepen U.S.-China tensions ahead of the planned summit between President Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Sept. 24, after months of frustration with Beijing’s rejection of U.S. warnings about Chinese companies providing imagery to Iran.

Senior U.S. officials raised the imagery linked to the July 17 attack with their Chinese counterparts, who pushed back and demanded proof, the U.S. officials said. China has repeatedly dismissed Washington’s concerns, refusing to acknowledge that any Chinese companies are engaged in such activity, the officials said.

A video circulating on social media and verified by The Wall Street Journal shows a ballistic missile attack on Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan.
The Chinese Embassy in Washington didn’t address the specific U.S. allegations. Spokesperson Liu Chang said unnamed critics were “maliciously linking and smearing other countries” by exploiting the conflict, and said China’s cooperation with Iran complied with international law.

In the July 17 attack, Iranian ballistic missiles struck a housing area at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in northeastern Jordan where American troops had been sleeping. Three soldiers were killed and four others were wounded and medically evacuated. Iran also targeted manned and unmanned aircraft at the base, other U.S. officials said.

The attack was one of three separate missile strikes on the base in 24 hours and marked a significant escalation in the war. The strike resulted in the first U.S. deaths since an April ceasefire, and exposed the difficulty of protecting U.S. forces even at a heavily defended installation. It also raised alarms about Iran’s improved ability to hit American targets.


In the July 17 attack, in which U.S. military troops were killed, Iranian ballistic missiles struck a housing area in Jordan. Spencer Platt/Getty Images
Servicemen fold an American flag during the funeral service for Pvt. Isabella Gonzales.
Three soldiers were killed and four others were wounded. Joel Angel Juarez/Reuters
The strikes on the base came after senior Trump officials spent months warning their Chinese counterparts that Chinese companies were providing satellite imagery Iran could use to target U.S. personnel and assets in the region, officials say. The Trump administration sanctioned several Chinese companies in May, saying that supplying satellite imagery to Iran “threatens American and partner personnel.”


Within three days of the July attack, Iran released high-resolution images showing damage to three separate areas of the base. Publicly available lower-resolution satellite imagery analyzed by The Wall Street Journal showed damage to more than 20 structures across the three areas of the base.

Trump has told his team that it is a priority for him to maintain good relations with China and Xi in particular. Senior U.S. officials have responded by trying to avoid public confrontations with Beijing that could overshadow or derail plans for the summit. A White House official said no assistance Iran was receiving from outside actors had enhanced its ability to attack the U.S., without addressing the finding.

Publicly, senior Trump administration officials have played down the impact of any Chinese assistance to Iran. Days after the July 17 attack, Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Chinese Foreign Minister [censored] Yi. Asked afterward if the Chinese were providing Iran with targeting information, he declined to answer directly, saying “nothing that China has done has in any way changed the trajectory of the conflict.”


Earlier in the war, U.S. attacks on Iranian radar, satellites and other equipment degraded the regime’s ability to see the battlefield. Iran often hit locations of lesser military significance where nothing significant was located—an indication that Iran didn’t have a clear picture of U.S. bases.

However, the targeting appeared to improve over the summer, officials say.

Fresh, high-resolution images from Chinese sources could reveal recent changes at a base and help Iran “select the most impactful targets in a timely manner,” said Jim Lamson, a former CIA analyst who specialized in Iran’s military and weapons. Post-strike imagery could help Iran assess the effectiveness of the strikes and decide whether and where to attack again.

The imagery likely would have been one of several intelligence streams used by Iran, analysts and former officials say. Iran’s military also draws from its own satellites and human sources, as well as intelligence and imagery from Russia, according to U.S. officials.



The imagery is part of a broader flow of Chinese technology and data used by Iran, including navigation services, and components used in drones and missiles. Taken together, it “starts to look pretty substantial” in improving Iran’s long-range strike capabilities, says Lamson.

A Long March-8A carrier rocket launching into a cloudy sky from a coastal launch site, with crowds watching from a beach in the foreground.
China has repeatedly dismissed Washington’s concerns about help provided to Iran. Meng Zhongde/Xinhua/ZUMA Press
Unlike some of the other intelligence available to Iran, Chinese technology and imagery are areas Washington can try to disrupt through sanctions and pressure Beijing, officials say.

U.S. officials are also concerned that China could be helping Iran stalk American naval assets as well, according to people familiar with the matter. In recent days, Iran has fired ballistic missiles at a U.S. aircraft carrier and other warships. While Central Command said all the attacks failed, officials described some as close calls and said Iran’s ability to target moving ships appeared to be improving.

China’s satellite industry often blurs the line between commercial and state companies, U.S. officials and analysts say, because even ostensibly private companies operate under extensive government oversight, and many have links to the government or the Chinese Communist Party.

In May, the Trump administration sanctioned three Chinese companies—MizarVision, Earth Eye and Chang Guang—that it said were providing, collecting or publishing imagery that Iran could use to target U.S. forces. State Department officials last year accused Chang Guang of providing satellite imagery that directly supported attacks by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis, calling the support “unacceptable.”

The administration has briefed lawmakers on the intelligence committees in recent weeks on the support both Russia and China are providing to Iran, according to congressional officials.

https://www.wsj.com/world/u-s-links...strike-that-killed-three-troops-ca0b4be3
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Re: Remembering 9/11/2001... Dawgs4Life 09/12/26 07:59 PM
There are days that feel like yesterday even years later. If you didn't experience that day, it's hard to explain it. The world changed forever
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread PitDAWG 09/12/26 07:49 PM
Yep. I'm sure.



Bobby McFerrin is not only the artist who had a hit with the song he also wrote the song.

Somebody chose to play a trick on their Youtube audience. This song in the video you posted is being sung by Bobby McFerrin and not Bob Marley. How can you know that?

Bob Marley died in May of 1981. Bobby McFerrin didn't write and record "Don't Worry, Be Happy" until 1988. Seven years after Marley had died.

Hopefully you're not being tricked by the Browns too. naughtydevil
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread bugs 09/12/26 07:24 PM
rofl
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread FATE 09/12/26 07:12 PM
You've got the wrong artist, bro. Marley wrote "No Dawg, No Cry"


(Chorus)
No Dawg, no cry
No Dawg, no cry
No Dawg, no cry
No Dawg, no cry

(Verse 1)
'Cause, 'cause, 'cause, I remember when we used to sit
In the Muni Lot in Cleveland
Observing the hypes as they would mingle
With the good fans we meet, yeah
Good friends we have, oh, good friends we've lost
Along the way, yeah
In this great future, you can't forget your past
So dry your tears, I say, yeah

(Chorus)
No Dawg, no cry
No Dawg, no cry
Oh, die-hard Browns fan, don't shed no tears
No Dawg, no cry

(Verse 2)
Said, said, said, I remember when we used to sit
In the freezing cold of December
And then Art Modell would make the move
And steal our team away, yeah
Then we'd cook up the burgers in the parking lot
Of which a true fan would share
My feet are the only carriage
So I've got to push on through
But while I'm gone...

(Bridge)
Everything's gonna be all right
Everything's gonna be all right
Everything's gonna be all right, now
Everything's gonna be all right
The Drive and The Fumble in the past
Everything's gonna be all right
We're gonna win a game at last
Everything's gonna be all right

(Chorus)
No Dawg, no cry
No, no, Browns fan, no cry
Oh, die-hard Dawg, don't shed no tears
No Dawg, no cry
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread bugs 09/12/26 07:11 PM


Are you sure? If you are right, I like this version better!!!!! naughtydevil
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread PitDAWG 09/12/26 06:55 PM
It was Bobby McFerrin that did the song "Don't Worry, Be Happy" and not Bob Marley.

Hopefully the rest of your prediction will be more accurate. naughtydevil
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Re: GM has passed KNOXDAWG 09/12/26 06:52 PM
GM was the first of a few people to pm me when i went through my stage four cancer bout. he was the first guy i met at DTI and hung with me the duration. thank you for being my friend. you will be missed.
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread bugs 09/12/26 06:45 PM
I predict the Browns won't make the Super Bowl, and it'll still be a fun season!

We will discover that the newbies are fun to watch.

We will also find out that this team is a lot better than we think.

We will all worry that we won't be in the right draft position to draft a QB.

Just like Baltimore when they drafted Lamar Jackson, the Browns will get their franchise QB!

I believe we are way over-depressing ourselves. As Bob Marley always sang, "Don't worry, be happy!"
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 09/12/26 05:41 PM
Houthi rebels are now demanding trump pay each one of them $5000.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins PitDAWG 09/12/26 04:22 PM
I don't disagree with you. It's like the argument they make about Democrats wanting to give you "free healthcare". That's simply a lie. Nobody ever said it was free. It's a pretty basic concept.

When you purchase all of drugs and services and procedures for over 300 million Americans it gives a huge amount of leverage in negotiating prices on those drugs and services and procedures which greatly reduces the price for everyone. It's just a much cheaper and more efficient way to provide healthcare to Americans. When such a thing is proposed they label that socialism or communism.

Yet businesses like Walmart and Amazon use those exact same business principals on a daily basis to drive their prices as low as possible on products and they call it capitalism. So it's not about what's being done for them, it's about who is doing it.
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