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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Pdawg 01/09/26 03:36 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Lyuokdea
Originally Posted by FATE
Want to explain how the fatal shot went right through the windshield if he was off to the side? Magic bullet??

That's an exit hole - he fired in through the open driver's side window, as it shows on the video.

100% made-up b.s.

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Re: Browns HC Interviews Razorthorns 01/09/26 03:26 AM
it's hard to win games with no 1rst round picks on offense, no legit QB, no offensive line, and no real WRs. That's on the GM not the HC.
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates Razorthorns 01/09/26 02:56 AM
Harbaugh or bust. Give him whatever he wants. Give him so much money he can't refuse and fire everyone he doesn't want. PERIOD. I bet he would keep our DC too.
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Re: Quarterback Defined Razorthorns 01/09/26 02:44 AM
If Harbaugh wants to come here I say you make him the king with complete authority over everything. No questions asked. He grew up rooting for the Browns now it's time for him to bring glory back to the Browns. Let him hire his own GM. He is bonafide. You do whatever it takes. He has the pedigree to change the culture instantly.
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates Jester 01/09/26 02:26 AM
My personal rankings for the Browns next HC

1, Chris Shula DC LAR
2, Jessie Minter DC LAC
3, Mario Cristobal HC Miami Hurricanes
4, Jim Schwartz DC Clevelan Browns

Out of left field: Grant Udinski OC Jacksonville Jaguars

My prediction?
Mike McCarthy: IMO Hue Jackson 2.0
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates ScottPlayersFacemask 01/09/26 01:56 AM
The top 10 NFL standings

1. Bo NIx
2. Sam Darnold
3. Derek Maye
4. Trevor Lawrence
5. CJ Stroud
6. Matthew Stafford
7. Josh Allen
8. Brock Purdy
9. Caleb Williams
10. Jalen Hurts

I can keep going. Herbert, Rodgers, Love...etc. These are the QBs that made the playoffs. I highly doubt all those HC's are leader of men. I will guess they can manage a team and know how to get the best from their star QBs or get the most of their talented QBs.

Edit: apologies if I’m coming off harsh. Most of these coaches are good managers and creative offensively
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/09/26 01:50 AM
Originally Posted by Lyuokdea
Originally Posted by FATE
Want to explain how the fatal shot went right through the windshield if he was off to the side? Magic bullet??

That's an exit hole - he fired in through the open driver's side window, as it shows on the video.

100% made-up b.s.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/09/26 01:50 AM
Originally Posted by Squires
Originally Posted by FATE
He wasn't "standing" in front of a vehicle. He was part of a team converging on the vehicle so that the idiot inside would quit blocking their operation.

You're delusional.

Look at the picture I quoted, there is a guy standing in front of the vehicle.

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And BTW, your comment that the hole in the windshield is an exit hole from shots fired into the side window is complete made-up trash.

I made no comment about the hole in the windshield.

If I take a picture of a gazelle racing across grassland at 60mph, does that picture mean the gazelle was standing there?? The officer wasn't standing in front of the vehicle, he was approaching the vehicle when it suddenly backed up and accelerated toward him.

And you're right, that was lookiedookie, I keep getting the two of you confused. Sorry about that.
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates ScottPlayersFacemask 01/09/26 01:43 AM
Leader of men? What era is this?

Give me a nerd and a top QB and we will beat your Bravehart coach and mediocre QB
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Squires 01/09/26 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
He wasn't "standing" in front of a vehicle. He was part of a team converging on the vehicle so that the idiot inside would quit blocking their operation.

You're delusional.

Look at the picture I quoted, there is a guy standing in front of the vehicle.

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And BTW, your comment that the hole in the windshield is an exit hole from shots fired into the side window is complete made-up trash.

I made no comment about the hole in the windshield.
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Re: The. Dems. FATE 01/09/26 01:31 AM
The commie that says "homeownership a weapon of white supremacy" bursts into tears when someone says they should start with her mommy's 1.6M home. This side-show that goes down in NY is going to be very entertaining.

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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/09/26 01:28 AM
He wasn't "standing" in front of a vehicle. He was part of a team converging on the vehicle so that the idiot inside would quit blocking their operation.

You're delusional.

And BTW, your comment that the hole in the windshield is an exit hole from shots fired into the side window is complete made-up trash.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Squires 01/09/26 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Well, you said there was no officer in front of the vehicle. Here is a screenshot I took off of the original video. The officer is in front of the vehicle, drawing his weapon. He has a split second to make a decision whether this woman is going to plow into him or his fellow officers.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

The agent that stood in front of the vehicle is a moron. They surround a car that is:
1. Running
2. The driver is in full control of

and he stands in front of the vehicle.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN superbowldogg 01/09/26 12:38 AM


things are starting to come out that tell a completely different story.

I'm sure more stuff will come out later.
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates 10YrOvernightSuccess 01/09/26 12:25 AM
I'm not even entertaining the Harbaugh thought. I mean, there's a chance I could wind up with Gal Godot. Not a very good chance, mind you. Probably best I not spend too much time on that one.
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Re: Browns Fire Stefanski 10YrOvernightSuccess 01/09/26 12:09 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Quite possibly. But you have an injured QB, a coach that can't "control" him, a divorce letter, and you're playing chicken with his agents to get a contract done. The first QB contract from that class just rang up 258M (Josh Allen) and that was on the heels of Mahomes' 450M. I think they went from "explore the opportunity" to thinking (even at a king's ransom) a blockbuster deal with an elite QB (Watson) would be a much better choice.

That's the part of hindsight that we all keep forgetting. Watson was elite in everyone's eyes, and seven teams were going after him. There were respected posters here saying he was worth (4) 1st round picks and that we could build a ten-year dynasty with him behind center.

Except.. all that off the field stuff absolutely should have rung every last bell to pull the brake and pull hard. An entire season of holding out of football (how often does that happen?), and 1, 2..3.... nay twentyfreakintwo (!!!) active sexual assault allegations. Maybe even worse from a pure judgement standpoint: the refusal to settle them as early as possible. I mean, who was advising the guy? It's mystifying.

Look, I'm as cold a utilitarian bastard as the next guy, I can put away my self righteous indignation and evaluate the talent. If we indeed had the next great QB in our midst and there's a reasonable expectation he'd be able to perform (key caveat) then you swallow hard and so be it. But there's a critical mass you can't ignore. Or g-d help you, you shouldn't anyway. This is a general life truth, a basic rule of thumb: if a person's outside life is that chaotic, that epically screwed up, that full of head-exploding distraction with mountainous evidence of sub basement poor judgement, it DOES NOT MATTER how talented they are, they will blow up. You cannot make that person the center of your whole organization. Or... it will blow up!

I know I'm preaching to the choir and hindsight is a helluva drug (tho I was vocally 1000% against it from jump) but this is classic Greek tragedy siren song stuff. Stuff that's supposed to be baked into every smart, reasonably educated person's DNA. There were PLENTY of people that knew this was a disaster in the making. They just weren't in Berea. Anyone with any real life experience and the ability to reflect upon it should have been able to look at that set up and known that there was practically no way that series of data point leads to cake and streamers. 99/100. If you don't, you have no business running a taco stand. I'll get off the soap box now.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Damanshot 01/08/26 11:40 PM
I watched two videos,,,, I think it was MURDER
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland Damanshot 01/08/26 11:38 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Facts be damned.


What facts are you damning
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates bonefish 01/08/26 11:33 PM
The Browns will look at a bunch of people.

I would not even venture a guess.

The only thing that I think changes this entire process is Harbaugh.

Haslam would hire him in a heartbeat. If he were to say yes. Everything else would stop.

Berry will begin the parade but Haslam would end it with a yes from Harbaugh.
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland Lyuokdea 01/08/26 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
I'm not sure that's the case, but I am far from a whatever flavor of law we are talking about.

While it's probably true that everything has a price, Hawaii is a state under the USA federal government. Our federal government would have something to say about China moving in. Greenland, on the other hand is an autonomous territory tied to Denmark. It has its own government, but its residents are citizens of Denmark.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's different from Hawaii, but maybe not all that different.

Under international law "autonomous territories" are an internal classification, and give the region some specific self-governence, the degree of which is dependent on the state that governs them.

However, Denmark has full "external sovereignty" over Greenland, because it is the state actor. Greenland cannot (under international law) enter into an agreement with another sovereign country (for example, they cannot make a deal with the United States that would be valid under international law) - only Denmark can create an agreement with the United States, because those are the two sovereign countries.

An example of this is the Åland Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land) which is an autonomous region under Finnish sovereignty -- however the laws that guarantee its autonomy are governed by a treaty between Finland and Sweden (rather than being purely an internal arrangement within Finland). Another example, already cited above, is the joint defense of Greenland agreement, which is an agreement between Denmark and the United States, which allows the US military presence in Greenland. Note, it is not an agreement between Greenland and the United States.

This, can, of course, get complicated when an autonomous region declares that they are their own country (for example Kosovo) and then that sovereignty claim isn't directly militarily challenged by the sovereign country -- but the law is clear that any deal regarding Greenland would have to be between the United States and Denmark.

There is some discussion of this here: https://digitalcommons.law.villanova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=vlr
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland oobernoober 01/08/26 11:15 PM
I'm not sure that's the case, but I am far from a whatever flavor of law we are talking about.

While it's probably true that everything has a price, Hawaii is a state under the USA federal government. Our federal government would have something to say about China moving in. Greenland, on the other hand is an autonomous territory tied to Denmark. It has its own government, but its residents are citizens of Denmark.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's different from Hawaii, but maybe not all that different.
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland Lyuokdea 01/08/26 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
I think Puerto Rico might be a better example.

Sure - that's a better example (and China could again do it for about the same amount of money as buying Hawaii) - but I don't think it matters which one you use - Prpl is arguing that you can buy any location you want, so long as the local population agrees.
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Re: Browns HC Interviews oobernoober 01/08/26 11:09 PM
For me, the important part is it looked like he WAS beginning to fix some issues.

We can love him or hate him however we want, but the reality is that he's going to be at or near the front of a QB competition that will kick off next TC. Gabriel will be someone he's competing against, and I imagine we'll bring in one or two FAs... but I wouldn't hold your breath in terms of who we can afford this off-season.
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland oobernoober 01/08/26 11:03 PM
I think Puerto Rico might be a better example.
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates 10YrOvernightSuccess 01/08/26 10:29 PM
From what I've read McDaniels he has a good football mind but just isn't a leader of men and doesn't manage his staff well, poor communicator. So, naturally, he's perfect for the Browns.
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