Re: Iran War II
Bull_Dawg
05/27/26 06:10 PM
Trump destroyed the deal that had open inspections. I already gave you the evidence that inspections were still taking place right up until trump bombed their nuclear sites. The fact you refuse to accept that is a you issue and no basis that anyone else lied. But that's your general premise and has been all along. If you don't like the source or the evidence presented you just label it a lie. The deal wasn't only with Trump. Trump backed out of the deal to reimpose sanctions. Iran didn't (officially) "back out" of the JCPOA until after the bombing. But, they already weren't following their side of it. July 2019–January 2020: Iran rolls back its JCPOA compliance in several steps, including exceeding limits on levels of enriched uranium, centrifuge development, and heavy water stock. However, it claims it will continue to cooperate with the IAEA.
March 2020: IAEA report finds Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium had almost tripled since November 2019, totaling much more than 300 kilograms.
January 2021: The country resumes enriching uranium to 20 percent purity, far exceeding the 2015 Nuclear Deal guidelines.
November 2022: The IAEA director reports Iran produced uranium at 60 percent purity.
February 2023: Uranium particles enriched to 83.7 percent purity are found in Iran's Fordow nuclear facility. [...] A top US Defense Department official warned the country was only days from being able to make one nuclear bomb. linkYes, inspections were happening, but those inspections were revealing that Iran was breaking the agreement with all those still in the JCPOA, which included Iran. It's not about liking the sources. It's about your interpretation of what is in the sources being erroneous. So you, as person who wasn't even around me growing up has determined that my recollection of my childhood is biased? Do you have any clue just how crazy that sounds? But we get it. Somehow in your mind you know even more than the people who were there. I should have known. Memory is inherently biased. That's just the way memory works. It's not locked whole and frozen in time in our synapses. "Memories" are constantly rewritten and adapted. Then there's the whole metaphysics side of what your senses are sending to your brain isn't objective reality in the first place. I don't really expect you to understand that. I also don't think I know better than you about your life, I just know that you are an inveterate liar, with the evidence to support this position constantly growing, so I don't blindly believe your stories about it.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 06:01 PM
What threat was Venezuela to the U.S? What actual threat has Cuba been to the U.S.?
Here's a hint. None.
You can invent enemies any time you wish to make illegitimate excuses to take actions against them even when they were no viable threat to us at all.
What you see is a mirage that has been packaged and delivered to you because you lack any ability to think for yourself.
I actually think these leaders are terrible people.
But then Sadam was a terrible person too. How many of our young men and women died,lost limbs and suffer lifelong PTSD from that war which was based on lies? Maybe it's time to put the troops first and your political idols last.
Let me show you how stupid things you are saying sound like................
You do not love, respect or honor our troops because you want to put their lives on the line by supporting they go fight wars that aren't necessary!
That's what posting dumb crap looks like and that's exactly the way you sound. Only at least there's some ring of truth to this.
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Re: Iran War II
Day of the Dawg
05/27/26 05:47 PM
How long does a Country have to say death to America before they are believed??? Wait for them to act? That would be stupidity. I do not want to see another 9/11 in my lifetime. How long can someone keep screaming death to America without acting on it until someone uses it as an excuse for war? The answer? 47 years. Your just mad your political idols like the Aho tolah, Modero in Venezuela, and soon to be Castro in Cuba are getting removed. I see enemies of the US being taken out and our citizens being safer.
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Re: Iran War II
mgh888
05/27/26 05:12 PM
Again - you are mixing things up. Probably deliberately I do not know.
The issue is not whether Iran is a threat. It is a question is whether Iran was about to imminently get a nuke. Those are not the same thing. Not even in the same ball park.
One is a sweeping generalization - the other is specific and the alleged reason for going to war. No, the issue is that Iran is a threat. That's the big issue. How close to a "nuke" ultimately isn't that important. (It's important, but certainly not the only thing of importance.)(and an ICBM is a kind of nuke, not the only kind.) I think they were closer than you understand. It's irrefutable that they were getting closer to a "nuke." They are avoiding observation. And a "nuke" isn't the only way to weaponize the material.They are working with internationally recognized terrorists. Terrorists that have active networks in Latin America. They are already in a "shadow war" with Israel through those terrorist proxies. They do chant "Death to America." Those terrorist proxies they're already using against Israel aren't just based in the Middle East. They have cells in Venezuela (and elsewhere.) They are "on our doorstep." Those terrorist proxies don't restrict themselves to "traditional" military methods. Unobserved HEU isn't as difficult to move concealed as you may believe. Pivot For the last 4 pages I've been explaining and saying that there is no evidence Iran imminently about to acquire a Nuclear weapon. The reason given to start a war with them. You tried to argue otherwise starting with how easy it is to make a nuclear weapon ... To which I said arguing that something is easy isn't a good basis for launching a war. Then we were talking about EU and NATO allies not saying anything about Iran's alleged imminent accusations of nuclear capability and steadfastly refusing to aid what they say as an illegal war of choice. Now you are pivoting to ... It's all ok because Iran is a threat no matter how close or otherwise they are to a nuke. As I said a while ago .. your not holding a conversation in good faith. Enjoy your pivots and hypotheticals. I won't engage.
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Re: Iran War II
mgh888
05/27/26 05:11 PM
Again - you are mixing things up. Probably deliberately I do not know.
The issue is not whether Iran is a threat. It is a question is whether Iran was about to imminently get a nuke. Those are not the same thing. Not even in the same ball park.
One is a sweeping generalization - the other is specific and the alleged reason for going to war. No, the issue is that Iran is a threat. That's the big issue. How close to a "nuke" ultimately isn't that important. (It's important, but certainly not the only thing of importance.)(and an ICBM is a kind of nuke, not the only kind.) I think they were closer than you understand. It's irrefutable that they were getting closer to a "nuke." They are avoiding observation. And a "nuke" isn't the only way to weaponize the material.They are working with internationally recognized terrorists. Terrorists that have active networks in Latin America. They are already in a "shadow war" with Israel through those terrorist proxies. They do chant "Death to America." Those terrorist proxies they're already using against Israel aren't just based in the Middle East. They have cells in Venezuela (and elsewhere.) They are "on our doorstep." Those terrorist proxies don't restrict themselves to "traditional" military methods. Unobserved HEU isn't as difficult to move concealed as you may believe. Pivot For the last 4 pages I've been explaining and saying that there is no evidence Iran imminently about to acquire a Nuclear weapon. The reason given to start a war with them. You tried to argue otherwise starting with how easy it is to make a nuclear weapon ... To which I said arguing that something is easy isn't a good basis for launching a war. Then we were talking about EU and NATO allies not saying anything about Iran's alleged imminent accusations of nuclear capability and steadfastly refusing to aid what they say as an illegal war of choice. Now you are pivoting to ... It's all ok because Iran is a threat no matter how close or otherwise they are to a nuke. As I said a while ago .. your not holding a conversation in good faith. Enjoy your pivots and hypotheticals. I won't engage.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 05:10 PM
How long does a Country have to say death to America before they are believed??? Wait for them to act? That would be stupidity. I do not want to see another 9/11 in my lifetime. How long can someone keep screaming death to America without acting on it until someone uses it as an excuse for war? The answer? 47 years.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 05:07 PM
Trump destroyed the deal that had open inspections. I already gave you the evidence that inspections were still taking place right up until trump bombed their nuclear sites. The fact you refuse to accept that is a you issue and no basis that anyone else lied. But that's your general premise and has been all along. If you don't like the source or the evidence presented you just label it a lie.
So you, as person who wasn't even around me growing up has determined that my recollection of my childhood is biased? Do you have any clue just how crazy that sounds? But we get it. Somehow in your mind you know even more than the people who were there. I should have known.
You are right about the difference between a theory and a hypothetical. A theory has some rational to back it up. A hypothetical is just something someone makes up. I was giving you too much credit. My bad.
When the consequences become starting a war because "someone doing wrong" questioning if starting a war is the proper response is not defending anyone. That's questioning if it's a proper response. War is the ultimate cost to both sides. It should always be questioned if it was needed and worth the reasoning to start it.
You do realize just going around screaming, "You lied! You lied" You lied!" doesn't prove anything, right? It seems not. But you just keep on screaming without showing proof. For some strange reason you think that's working for you.
You can call them balls if you like. But you still haven't managed to score a run.
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Re: Iran War II
Day of the Dawg
05/27/26 04:53 PM
How long does a Country have to say death to America before they are believed??? Wait for them to act? That would be stupidity. I do not want to see another 9/11 in my lifetime.
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Re: Iran War II
Bull_Dawg
05/27/26 04:39 PM
They've been "avoiding observation" since their nuclear sites were hit last June when trump tried to blow them up. Oh, no, wait, excuse me. When trump bombed them.
So they shouldn't hide them once someone tried to destroy them? No wait, saying that made you claim I was defending Iran.
Speaking of telling lies..... They were hindering inspections before the bombing. They were enriching more HEU than they were supposed to, to a higher percentage than they were supposed to before the bombing. You defending someone doing wrong because they had to face consequences for doing wrong, and pretending someone else did wrong first is very on brand. If you're speaking, lies are quite frequently being told.
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Re: Iran War II
Bull_Dawg
05/27/26 04:27 PM
Alleged childhood? Are you claiming I was never a child? lmao
If that's your "goal" you have failed miserably. During this entire thread you have done little more than make up far fetched what ifs as though they are viable theories.
Here is a hint for future reference. When someone makes fun of you for the absurdity of your actions, they aren't "bothered by you." they're laughing at your expense. All you're weakly attempting to do is pretend it's fine for you to go after someone else but when they respond in kind you scored some kind of points. You truly are deluded.
If anyone is pitching a shut out here, it's not you. No, I'm saying your recollection of your childhood is biased, if you aren't making up this particular story altogether, which seems likely. Making up BS and rewriting history is what you do. To me, You fantasizing alone with the imaginary friend in your head creating imagined injustices seems a much more likely childhood for you. No, you're still telling lies, and I'm still going to call them out. I don't need the validation of the one telling the lies to accomplish my goal. A hypothetical isn't a theory. I understand that the meanings of words aren't important to you. Except you're not laughing at my expense. You're laughing to deflect from your lies. It's pathetic. Calling a liar out for his lies is different from making up lies and attacking someone because they told the truth about you. Perhaps you believe your own lies, but, as you like to say, that's a you problem. You're the only one trying to pitch a shut out. I'm just calling your wild pitches into the stands balls instead of pretending they're strikes.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ????
PitDAWG
05/27/26 04:06 PM
DOJ quietly shelves Biden autopen investigation that Trump demanded President Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed former President Joe Biden used an autopen without knowing the contents of what he signed. The Justice Department shelved an investigation into former President Joe Biden's use of an autopen, a person briefed on the matter told NBC News on Wednesday. Justice Department pardon attorney Ed Martin, the former “weaponization” czar, opened the probe while he was interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. It wound down recently under Jeanine Pirro, the current U.S. attorney, who is a longtime Trump ally and former Fox News host. The autopen case was never presented to a grand jury, unlike the case that Pirro's office tried to bring forward last month against six members of Congress who participated in a social media video that urged members of the military and intelligence communities not to follow unlawful orders. It is difficult to bring a criminal case when there is not even a readily identifiable and applicable criminal statute, the person briefed on the matter said. The White House referred an inquiry about the matter to the Justice Department. A spokesman for Pirro’s office, citing Justice Department policy, said the office does not confirm or deny the existence of criminal probes. President Donald Trump in June demanded a wide-ranging investigation into Biden and officials in his administration after he claimed that Biden's aides used "autopen" signatures to hide Biden's "cognitive decline." The Republican-led House Oversight Committee investigated Biden's use of an autopen, writing in a report in October that some executive actions he signed with an autopen were "illegitimate," because he suffered from mental decline and could have been unaware of the contents. Trump, who has repeatedly claimed that Biden used an autopen on many of his executive orders, said in November that he was canceling executive orders signed using Biden’s autopen. It's unclear how often Biden used an autopen, as there is no official government record of when it is used. In a statement in June, Biden responded to Trump’s claims, saying, "Let me be clear: I made the decisions during my presidency.” "I made the decisions about the pardons, executive orders, legislation, and proclamations," he said in the statement. "Any suggestion that I didn’t is ridiculous and false." Biden's use of the autopen was investigated as Trump has directed the Justice Department to investigate a number of his political foes since he returned to office. The Justice Department tried to prosecute former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James. A federal judge tossed out the criminal charges against both in November. It also sent out criminal subpoenas in January to various state and local government offices in Minnesota, including Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, claiming they conspired to impede law enforcement during its immigration operations there. Neither have been charged, and legal experts have widely condemned an investigation that they say is based on a flimsy legal premise and has a chilling effect on free speech. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/doj-shelves-biden-autopen-probe-rcna261810
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 04:00 PM
They've been "avoiding observation" since their nuclear sites were hit last June when trump tried to blow them up. Oh, no, wait, excuse me. When trump bombed them.
So they shouldn't hide them once someone tried to destroy them? No wait, saying that made you claim I was defending Iran.
Speaking of telling lies.....
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 03:56 PM
No one is surprised that you may have felt threatened by prepubescent girls back in the day, that you apparently stalked one to see what she said about "your friend," that you didn't believe what she said because your "friend" denied it, or that she made you and your alleged "friend" feel like idiots. It's hard to ignore a stalker that won't stop following you around and lies about you. One should tell others about it. I sympathize with that possibly imaginary girl for having to put up with you and your "friend." The situation she apparently was in sounds horrible. It would have been uncomfortable for a little girl to be harassed by "big, strong football players." If true, it seems you haven't changed, as you still act like a bully that gets offended when people don't let his and his posse's BS pass by uncommented on. Aw, how precious. Nobody was threatened by her or you. She was and you are both hilarious! And she said it out loud. Nobody had to stalk her. Is this the nonsense you mean by "Bull, horns, you know the drill"? Because if it is you have a lot of work to do. It seems a very basic message flew right over your head. Only cowards ignore people while sending some backhanded negative comment about them via a third party. I hope that clears up your obvious confusion. Posse? Do you feel like there's a "posse" on here? A group of people temporarily gathered for a specific purpose? That makes you sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist. I know you didn't say anything about "an entire civilization." I did, and you pretended I said something else. You're the one with the voice in your head that makes things up and/or lacks reading comprehension. I asked if bombing a county doesn't mean blowing them up? Because when they drop a bomb on them it blows up. Speaking of a lack of comprehension. Let me guess, in BS land I needed to list each specific site they bombed because "blowing them up" was too much of a generalization for your mind to deal with? When you break out fiction from your alleged childhood to compare me to a little girl, you're clearly unbothered.  Nope, nothing landed to cause that. My goal is just to point out your lies. It's going just fine. Alleged childhood? Are you claiming I was never a child? lmao If that's your "goal" you have failed miserably. During this entire thread you have done little more than make up far fetched what ifs as though they are viable theories. Here is a hint for future reference. When someone makes fun of you for the absurdity of your actions, they aren't "bothered by you." they're laughing at your expense. All you're weakly attempting to do is pretend it's fine for you to go after someone else but when they respond in kind you scored some kind of points. You truly are deluded. If anyone is pitching a shut out here, it's not you.
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Re: Iran War II
Bull_Dawg
05/27/26 03:52 PM
Again - you are mixing things up. Probably deliberately I do not know.
The issue is not whether Iran is a threat. It is a question is whether Iran was about to imminently get a nuke. Those are not the same thing. Not even in the same ball park.
One is a sweeping generalization - the other is specific and the alleged reason for going to war. No, the issue is that Iran is a threat. That's the big issue. How close to a "nuke" ultimately isn't that important. (It's important, but certainly not the only thing of importance.)(and an ICBM is a kind of nuke, not the only kind.) I think they were closer than you understand. It's irrefutable that they were getting closer to a "nuke." They are avoiding observation. And a "nuke" isn't the only way to weaponize the material.They are working with internationally recognized terrorists. Terrorists that have active networks in Latin America. They are already in a "shadow war" with Israel through those terrorist proxies. They do chant "Death to America." Those terrorist proxies they're already using against Israel aren't just based in the Middle East. They have cells in Venezuela (and elsewhere.) They are "on our doorstep." Those terrorist proxies don't restrict themselves to "traditional" military methods. Unobserved HEU isn't as difficult to move concealed as you may believe.
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Re: Iran War II
Bull_Dawg
05/27/26 03:24 PM
I remember someone just like you from decades ago. She acted the same way you are about a friend of mine I played football with back in school. She made up a bunch of BS about him and then eventually said she was going to ignore him but she would certainly talk about him to other people. But then she was the the most immature girl on the Junior High football cheer leading squad. Saying I claimed bombing a location isn't blowing it up is yet another falsity. I said blowing a facility up is different than blowing "them" (an entire civilization) up. Go figure, you did exactly what I described that you tried to characterize as a personal attack. Using semantics as some sort of point is hilarious. If you are bombing places all over Iran you are blowing up Iran. I didn't say anything about "an entire civilization". That's just an assumption you made in your mind. If you think anything you have posted is......................... "Bull, horns, you know the drill" you are sadly mistaken. You have fallen well short of your goal. No one is surprised that you may have felt threatened by prepubescent girls back in the day, that you apparently stalked one to see what she said about "your friend," that you didn't believe what she said because your "friend" denied it, or that she made you and your alleged "friend" feel like idiots. It's hard to ignore a stalker that won't stop following you around and lies about you. One should tell others about it. I sympathize with that possibly imaginary girl for having to put up with you and your "friend." The situation she apparently was in sounds horrible. It would have been uncomfortable for a little girl to be harassed by "big, strong football players." If true, it seems you haven't changed, as you still act like a bully that gets offended when people don't let his and his posse's BS pass by uncommented on. I know you didn't say anything about "an entire civilization." I did, and you pretended I said something else. You're the one with the voice in your head that makes things up and/or lacks reading comprehension. When you break out fiction from your alleged childhood to compare me to a little girl, you're clearly unbothered.  Nope, nothing landed to cause that. My goal is just to point out your lies. It's going just fine.
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Re: What If?
PitDAWG
05/27/26 02:57 PM
I don't know enough to debate you about the QB's that will be entering the draft next season but I am a big OSU fan. The only thing I try to keep in mind is that Sayin was a red shirt freshman. I think he performed extremely well considering that fact. This upcoming season will go a long way in telling me at least what that kid may have moving forward. He certainly looked promising but as first year starter where he goes from there is a mystery. But hey, a lot of these kids are young and will continue to develop. Where they go from where they are is something way over my pay grade. I guess that's why NFL GM's make the big bucks and I don't.
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Re: Aging
bonefish
05/27/26 02:57 PM
Your body sends clear messages.
No matter where you are physically IMO it is really important to have some form of physical exercise routinely.
Your body needs it just like it needs food.
Even as you age you don't have to fall apart. Even though you lose muscle mass as you age. You can maintain and even increase it.
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Re: Aging
PitDAWG
05/27/26 02:28 PM
I agree with you about trying to always move forward and push yourself to continue doing what you can. But as with your story about fly fishing and getting up on the roof I think you make the point that when it gets to a certain juncture where you no longer have the ability to do something safely your mind and body certainly send you a warning it's time to stop doing those things. We don't like it but it's inevitable. Those who ignore these warnings are the people we see on the Six o'clock news.
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Re: Iran War II
mgh888
05/27/26 02:25 PM
Again - you are mixing things up. Probably deliberately I do not know.
The issue is not whether Iran is a threat. It is a question is whether Iran was about to imminently get a nuke. Those are not the same thing. Not even in the same ball park.
One is a sweeping generalization - the other is specific and the alleged reason for going to war.
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Re: Aging
bonefish
05/27/26 02:19 PM
The tests the studies go by are:
How far can you walk in 6 minutes at a fast pace?
How many times can you curl an 8 pound dumbbell in 30 seconds sitting down with one arm.
How many times can you rise from a chair unassisted in 30 seconds
How long can you stand on one leg with your hands on your hips and the lifted leg against your opposite shin.
Get the results and ask AI where you are compared to those in your age group.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 02:13 PM
Nigel Farage's opinion about Iran doesn't make it fact either. As has been stated, Netanyahu has been screaming that crap for 30 years as well. Alarmists are everywhere. War mongers are everywhere. Quoting them isn't bolstering your position.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
05/27/26 02:08 PM
I remember someone just like you from decades ago. She acted the same way you are about a friend of mine I played football with back in school. She made up a bunch of BS about him and then eventually said she was going to ignore him but she would certainly talk about him to other people. But then she was the the most immature girl on the Junior High football cheer leading squad. Saying I claimed bombing a location isn't blowing it up is yet another falsity. I said blowing a facility up is different than blowing "them" (an entire civilization) up. Go figure, you did exactly what I described that you tried to characterize as a personal attack. Using semantics as some sort of point is hilarious. If you are bombing places all over Iran you are blowing up Iran. I didn't say anything about "an entire civilization". That's just an assumption you made in your mind. If you think anything you have posted is......................... "Bull, horns, you know the drill" you are sadly mistaken. You have fallen well short of your goal.
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Re: What If?
bonefish
05/27/26 01:59 PM
Brendan Sorsby request to play college ball in 2027 has been denied.
That means he may enter the supplemental draft.
I don't know a thing about him on the field except that he may carry a first round grade.
I know the process as far as bidding on him.
I wonder if there is interest from the Browns?
The thing about this is. If they want him. They could get him pretty much. The price could be from a second rounder to maybe a fourth.
There is the gambling baggage but there is a lot of misinformation and uncertainty as to what he actually did? I don't know.
As a football player I have no idea how Berry will evaluate him. Because of the situation he would have to be at least looked at.
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