The biggest improvement in a player comes between year 1 and 2 when they are no longer a college athlete, and are professional. It is a job.. a full time commitment…. and time to dedicate yourself and learn your craft…
Or you can go play on inflatable swans in a Vegas pool…. Your choice and chance for a career or a trip up north to play in Canada.
Thanks all the responses but I wanted to address this, from Fate:
“Don't know what all you're trying to change. Sounds like you're maybe giving yourself a wakeup call, health wise?”
The wake-up call for me came when my step-brother, about 15 years older than me, my truest brother/father figure, died on Oct. 25.
Always vibrant, full of life and positivity, but after more than 50 years a smoker, he spent his last year of life on oxygen, bed-ridden, with no energy or will, I suspect, to do anything else.
Well dude, you pretty much stopped me dead in my tracks with this post.
I lost my parents at a very young age. I had two older half-brothers (17 and 19 years older; Mom's first marriage). One was my father-figure during my young years. The only thing close to a father I had. I watched them both die from the complications of 50+ years of smoking over the last three years.
A raced down to Tennessee when one was "knocking on the door". Tried to talk him into sticking in the nursing home / rehab facility. I knew he didn't want to broach the subject, but I told him he had to quit smoking. He called a day before my Ireland vacation and told me he was home. "Are you smoking?" "Yep." That's why you left, right?" "Pretty much". I knew it would be the last time I talked to him.
After the visit with him, I decided in earnest I would quit while on vacation. Easy enough since I would be away with my wife. This time, I got rid of everything right down to the lighters before I left. Crushed the last three cigs and threw them away. Held in the last draw till it near choked me. Then just stared at the stars.
My moment came while climbing Arthur's Seat in Scotland. I was about two thirds and couldn't finish. Lungs burning, legs on fire. My wife asked if it was okay with me if she went a little further. "Sure." Watching her walk away nearly broke me... "Wait up"... and then the rest of that climb nearly broke me.
The view from the top was the rebar.
The call on the way home that my brother had passed was the cement.
You can do this, bro. Do it in his honor but do it for YOU... for you and all the people that love you. Hit me up in a PM if you need any advice or words of wisdom from a "been there, done that" respect. Proud of you for beginning the journey, dawg.
Like most old guys I have a prostate issue. I take like three hits before sleep and it helps a lot with getting up to piss.
Oh, believe me, I've done a ton of reading about this since MJ became my miracle cure for kidney stones! A lot of people are too turned off by the stigma to try. Good for you!
Marijuana's cannabinoids, especially THC, promote smooth muscle relaxation in the urinary tract, prostate, and bladder through interactions with CB1 and CB2 receptors, which are densely expressed in these tissues.
This relaxation reduces detrusor muscle contractions (the bladder's main muscle), eases prostate spasms in BPH, and calms overactive bladder signals, decreasing urgency, frequency, and nocturia.
Mechanisms Receptor Activation: THC binds CB1/CB2 receptors on bladder smooth muscle and nerves, inhibiting acetylcholine release from cholinergic nerves to lessen contractions.
Prejunctional Inhibition: Cannabinoids reduce neurotransmitter release at nerve endings, relaxing detrusor during filling and improving voiding control.
Clinical Evidence: MS trials showed THC extracts cut incontinence by 33-38% via detrusor relaxation; similar effects noted in overactive bladder models.
Studies suggest low-dose THC nightly will reduced nighttime urination by these pathways, though more human trials are needed.
I’ve watched Moore a few times over the season. He can make wow throws at times. My issue is he tended to have to make those throws because he misses too many other opportunities throughout the games. I don’t feel he’s as dynamic a runner as Mariota was. Nor do I see elite level processing. He’ll get drafted in the first no doubt. Top draft eligible QBs do. Doesn’t mean I think they’re worth a high draft pick… see Blake Bortles, Christian Ponder, Brandon Weeden, Johnny Football, etc. I just don’t see a Super Bowl winning QB in him. I could be wrong. I’ve been before.
Here is one thing I can tell you for a fact. Having two great QB's on your roster isn't a problem. Any team in the league needing a QB will give you an arm and a leg in trade for such a QB. Having no great QB on your roster leaves you as a team willing to and maybe having to give up an arm and a leg for a QB. We've already seen that scenario play out here and it didn't end well.
I would much prefer the Browns end up with having two shots at having a great QB than having one chance at it. And it really doesn't matter to me where that QB comes from even of the one who fails was a first round pick or not. Doubling the odds of success sounds very appealing to me. I mean it's been so long since we actually had a QB.
Wait ! What ?
Watson Gabriel and Sanders.
That's three. Heck no there's no need to draft a QB.
Hee Hee Hee !
I can just imagine what's going through your head right now.. LOL
Dry needling is a physical therapy technique where thin needles are inserted into painful "trigger points" (tight muscle knots) to relieve pain, improve motion, and promote healing by releasing muscle tension and increasing blood flow. A trained therapist uses a solid, filament needle (like an acupuncture needle) without injecting any substance, causing a twitch response that signals muscle release. It's used for conditions like back pain, neck pain, headaches, sciatica, and tennis elbow, often alongside other therapies.
Maybe a beer and a shot of Tennessee Bourbon before thin needles ?
What would be a horrible ending to all of this is to end up once again with no QB if we fail to draft a QB in the first round this year and Sanders fails. Leaving the Browns drafting #10-#15 in the draft moving forward and still not having a QB.
I like your whole post. Agree with 99.9%
What would be horrible? Sanders and the 2026 drafted QB fail. Plus, the Browns traded future #1's to get the QB.
I totally agree, you can't have too many top QBs!
Sellers is the guy who intrigues me. I understand there is a very high ceiling and a very low floor! I remember everyone's take on Mahomes. Could Sellers be a similar case? If Sanders is a maybe and we drop out of the top 5, I certainly would take a flyer.
I read that article,, Kinda got a kick out of it. It doesn't verify that any infraction took place, just that it MIGHT have.
Then it went on to make a statement that kinda cracked me up.
"pattern of deliberate obfuscation,"
I thought, hey, MAGA might be right, I mean if there is anyone group on the planet that knows anything about OBFUSCATION, it's MAGA!
Anyway, without proof of wrong doing, it's Piracy. Just like Blowing boats out of the water without proof is an act of war. Just like a second attack on a destroyed vessel in order to kill any survivors is cruel and unusual,,, and against the UCMJ!
How do I know they don't have proof, hell, if they had it, they'd put it out there for us all to see. They haven't, and they won't. Because they Can't!
Can we see the second attack on that vessel now... Oh, while we are at it, Where the hell are the Jan 6 Files?
Typical lefty. Worried more about drug dealers than American citizens.
We all know he's a despicable excuse for a human being. Even the maga fan boys have admitted that. But remember what they said... Don't worry about what he's SAYS... Only worry about what he does. Right?
Oh ... Hang on....
I guess this is like the "policing the world" thing. Against it untill trump does it .. Fed Gov should only protect our borders ... Until Trump wants to pull his draws down and take a steaming dump on States Rights and constitution. 💩
Would love to hear someone defend and support this.... But of course their all in hiding.
Thanks all the responses but I wanted to address this, from Fate:
“Don't know what all you're trying to change. Sounds like you're maybe giving yourself a wakeup call, health wise?”
The wake-up call for me came when my step-brother, about 15 years older than me, my truest brother/father figure, died on Oct. 25.
Always vibrant, full of life and positivity, but after more than 50 years a smoker, he spent his last year of life on oxygen, bed-ridden, with no energy or will, I suspect, to do anything else.
Dry needling is a physical therapy technique where thin needles are inserted into painful "trigger points" (tight muscle knots) to relieve pain, improve motion, and promote healing by releasing muscle tension and increasing blood flow. A trained therapist uses a solid, filament needle (like an acupuncture needle) without injecting any substance, causing a twitch response that signals muscle release. It's used for conditions like back pain, neck pain, headaches, sciatica, and tennis elbow, often alongside other therapies.
My 2¢… In my mind there’s only one QB in this draft worth taking, Mendoza. I’ve seen enough of Moore to see his ceiling is Oregon alumni Marcus Mariota. It’s not enough for me. I want nothing to do with Arch when there’ll be better talent at other positions that’ll actually improve the team. Alabama’s QB isn’t head and shoulders better than Sanders, though he has played better competition. Either way, I don’t think of him as a better prospect than Tate at WR. A much needed position to upgrade. Or even a top LT.
I keep reading that this draft is missing elite talent. Maybe maybe not I don't know enough about it at this point, but don't you think anyone we draft for the O-line and WR will be better than most of what we have right now? I think so. Add a couple of decent FA signings and we could be much better headed into next season.
Washington wary of ICC action against Trump, officials after his term ends in 2029
US also wants ICC to drop probes into Israeli leaders and US troops
ICC's jurisdiction includes prosecuting sitting heads of state for alleged crimes
WASHINGTON, Dec 10 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration wants the International Criminal Court to amend its founding document to ensure it does not investigate the Republican president and his top officials, a Trump administration official said, threatening new U.S. sanctions on the court if it did not.
If the court does not act on this U.S. demand and two others - dropping investigations of Israeli leaders over the Gaza war and formally ending an earlier probe of U.S. troops over their actions in Afghanistan - Washington may penalize more ICC officials and could sanction the court itself, the official said.
Sanctioning the court would significantly escalate the U.S. campaign against the ICC, which has long been criticized by U.S. officials including both Republicans and Democrats, who say the court infringes on U.S. sovereignty.
The Trump administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Washington has communicated its demands to ICC members, some of whom are U.S. allies, and has also made them known to the court. The United States is not a party to the Rome Statute that established the ICC in 2002 as a court of last resort, with the power to prosecute heads of state.
The demand and the threat to resume the U.S. sanctions campaign towards the court have not been previously reported.
WASHINGTON FEARS ACTION AFTER TRUMP'S TERM ENDS
ICC judges issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former Israeli defense chief Yoav Gallant, and Hamas leader Ibrahim al-Masri last November for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity during the Gaza conflict.
In March 2020, prosecutors opened an investigation in Afghanistan that included possible crimes by U.S. troops. Since 2021, the court has deprioritized looking into the role of the U.S. but it has not formally ended its probe.
To force the war tribunal to drop these charges, the U.S. earlier this year slapped sanctions on nine ICC officials, including judges and prosecutors. But it has stopped short of imposing sanctions on the court as an entity, which would severely disrupt the tribunal's work.
"There is growing concern ... that in 2029 the ICC will turn its attention to the president, to the vice president, to the secretary of war and others, and pursue prosecutions against them," the Trump administration official said.
"That is unacceptable, and we will not allow it to happen."
The White House had no immediate comment on the matter.
Any effort to change the Rome Statute to accommodate the U.S. demand would be slow and difficult, requiring approval of two-thirds of countries that have ratified the Rome Statute.
"Amendments to the Rome Statute are within the prerogative of States Parties," the ICC's public affairs unit, which speaks on behalf of the court and its presidency, said in response to Reuters' questions. It did not address a question on whether Washington has reached out to seek a prosecution immunity for Trump.
Sanctions applied to the court as an entity could affect its basic day-to-day operations, from its ability to pay staff to access to bank accounts and routine office software on its computers.
'OPEN CHATTER' ABOUT TARGETING TRUMP
The ICC is the world's permanent war crimes tribunal with 125 member states, including the entire EU but excluding major powers China, Russia and the United States, among others.
The court's mandate allows it to prosecute individuals for alleged crimes committed by them or nationals under their command on the territory of a member state, including sitting heads of state.
The Trump official did not say what issues the administration worries could become the subject of an ICC investigation. But the official cited "open chatter" in the international legal community that the court could target Trump and his top officials in 2029, when the Republican president's term ends.
"The solution is that they need to change the Rome Statute to make very clear that they don't have jurisdiction," the official said.
Starting in September, the U.S. military has waged a campaign of deadly strikes against suspected drug vessels in the Caribbean and off the Pacific coasts of Latin America, killing more than 80 people.
Members of Congress have said they will investigate whether the U.S. military broke the law by allegedly killing two survivors of a strike on a suspected drug trafficking vessel in the Caribbean. The White House has defended the strike as lawful.
When asked if the administration was making this demand from the ICC over concerns that the court might pursue charges against U.S. leaders over its conduct in Venezuela, the official declined to elaborate.
The ICC's two deputy prosecutors told Reuters on Friday they had not received any requests to investigate U.S. actions regarding Venezuela.
The U.S. official also declined to say when Washington began conveying this demand to the court and member states.
Enshrining blanket immunity for specific individuals would be seen as undermining the court's founding principles and would need approval by the court's governing body, the Assembly of States Parties.
While most amendments require the support of two-thirds of members to pass, fundamental changes to the court's jurisdiction would require an even larger majority to be implemented, according to the court's statute.
This certainly sounds like the actions an innocent man would take. And of course he can't leave his buddy Netanyahu behind to face justice. I'm surprised he didn't include Putin on his list.
I understand you point and don't disagree that your scenario is a possibility. The question actually becomes, "What evidence do you have that Sanders will be your franchise QB and how does that stack up with the draft choices available to you?"
Mahommes wasn't seen as an "Andrew Luck type QB" when he was drafted either. But here we are.
As of this moment I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer to this question just as you don't. In fact there may not be a cut and dry right or wrong answer to this question come draft day.
Here is one thing I can tell you for a fact. Having two great QB's on your roster isn't a problem. Any team in the league needing a QB will give you an arm and a leg in trade for such a QB. Having no great QB on your roster leaves you as a team willing to and maybe having to give up an arm and a leg for a QB. We've already seen that scenario play out here and it didn't end well.
I would much prefer the Browns end up with having two shots at having a great QB than having one chance at it. And it really doesn't matter to me where that QB comes from even of the one who fails was a first round pick or not. Doubling the odds of success sounds very appealing to me. I mean it's been so long since we actually had a QB.
As we get closer to the draft the answer may become more clear. It may cause the decision to be tougher or easier depending on your point of view. One never knows. But as has been stated previously, unless Sanders balls out, it's one helluva gamble to take passing on a QB when you will be drafting this high.
What would be a horrible ending to all of this is to end up once again with no QB if we fail to draft a QB in the first round this year and Sanders fails. Leaving the Browns drafting #10-#15 in the draft moving forward and still not having a QB.
I agree. Even if we draft at #5 I think that would cost us far less than trying to make a trade up from drafting at #10 or #12 in next years draft.
But like you said, it has to be for a QB they have targeted and deem the future franchise QB and not just to draft a QB.
Oh yes, the ol'chicken and the egg debate! I am also referring to your earlier post.
What if Sanders becomes your franchise starter, you traded up from the 5th or more to get "the" quarterback, and he fails?
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.
This draft and most likely the next are void of an Andrew Luck quarterback. This draft is also missing elite talent. Teams not needing a quarterback will want to trade down. Will this affect the price of moving up?
If Manning is predicted to go 1-3, why not come out in this draft? There is no guarantee he'll do better. He could get hurt. Yes, he could get paid more staying in Texas, but your 4-year rookie contract is extended another year. In theory, he'll get one less year of big money.
The one good thing is that Cleveland has some inside information on three of the top quarterbacks. Reese coached Simpson at Alabama. Musgrave coached Mendoza at California. Gabriel played with Moore at Oregon.
Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years in prison.
President Donald Trump claimed that he is granting a "full pardon" to Tina Peters, a former Mesa County, Colorado, clerk who was sentenced to nine years on state-level charges related to election interference during the 2020 election.
However, the president does not have jurisdiction over state charges, and Colorado officials are pushing back, contending that the president's promise of a pardon is unconstitutional. Trump's announcement, which he made on social media Thursday, now likely sets up a legal battle for Peters, who has been seeking a pardon from Trump.
Peters was convicted in August 2024 for giving an individual affiliated with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, a Trump ally, access to the election software she used for her county. Screenshots of the software appeared on right-wing websites that promoted false theories that the 2020 election was fraudulent.
Despite President Trump's repeated assertions that the election was rigged, there were no proven cases of major fraud that affected the outcome.
Trump has repeatedly called for Peters to be released from her nine-year sentence, and on Thursday night said on social media that he was "granting Tina a full Pardon for her attempts to expose Voter Fraud in the Rigged 2020 Presidential Election!"
"Tina is sitting in a Colorado prison for the 'crime' of demanding Honest Elections," he said.
Trump's announcement came as the administration attempted to move Peters to federal custody in order to have more jurisdiction over her. The move was denied by the courts.
In August, the president said in a social media post that if Peters wasn't released, he would "take harsh measures."
Colorado officials, however, questioned Trump's authority over Peters' conviction and pushed back against his claims.
"One of the most basic principles of our constitution is that states have independent sovereignty and manage our own criminal justice systems without interference from the federal government," Colorado Attorney General Phill Weiser said in a statement Thursday.
"The idea that a president could pardon someone tried and convicted in state court has no precedent in American law, would be an outrageous departure from what our constitution requires, and will not hold up," he added.
Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold added that Peters "was convicted by a jury of her peers for state crimes in a state Court. Trump has no constitutional authority to pardon her."
"His assault is not just on our democracy, but on states' rights and the American Constitution," she said in a statement.
As of Friday morning, no legal action has been taken against the Trump Administration over the president's announcement.