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Re: What Now Pt. 2 PitDAWG 01/16/26 06:34 PM
I actually see things much differently than that. If they don't think the QB they've been searching for is in this draft, I see every possibility they will trade down again for another first round pick in next years draft.

Another complication is that teams at the bottom of the draft have less needs. That's why they're winners and more complete teams. Teams selecting before us in round 2 have already gotten their #1 need and have the luxury of scooping up any remaining gems left on the board. If there are truly any WR steals left in this draft by that point, I look for them to be snatched up late first or early second round. We hear the talking heads say a lot of things every year before the draft. How deep or how weak certain positions are and projections of where players will be selected. Like Shedeur Sanders being a first round draft pick. Over the years I've learned not to take what they say as serious as some people do. But to each their own.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 06:24 PM
You said eight tenths of a second transpired and that it wasn't enough time. So what is enough time? When someone is fleeing away from your direction and is no longer a threat to you, what is the ample time you think is needed to process that in order not to fire at a fleeing suspect?
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 10YrOvernightSuccess 01/16/26 06:24 PM
I thought this was supposed to be a deep WR class? I keep seeing mocks with Jordyn Tyson going to us but that he also has an epic injury rap sheet. Most important ability is availability. I'd be perfectly happy if 9 out of 10 picks we took like 6 OL and 3WRs. That won't happen of course but it would be great. Use the last one on another RB or blocking TE. I don't see a point on taking another developmental QB. We don't develop QBs. In Cleveland, they need to be "heat and serve".

Even though he had a great draft last year I have the sneaking suspicion that Berry will have some head scratchers. Like if Caleb Downs is sitting there at 6. It would be hard to argue the pick from a BPA standpoint but would help us win 0 games in the short run.

Is the draft here yet?
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It says he suffered no injuries that require he remain hospitalized. It seems she said this before they decided to make his injuries sound so severe. I mean for people who are still foolish enough to believe anything that comes out of their pie holes.

Well, well, well. Dr Pit has spoken. He should have remained hospitalized.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 06:21 PM
Those two things are not comparable. Being prepared for a threat to your life and being immediately introduced to one are two entirely different things.

And it is NOT two or three seconds.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 06:20 PM
It says he suffered no injuries that require he remain hospitalized. It seems she said this before they decided to make his injuries sound so severe. I mean for people who are still foolish enough to believe anything that comes out of their pie holes.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 06:15 PM
Yes, according to some it must take two or three seconds to process whether you're still in direct danger or not. If it takes you that long to figure it out, you shouldn't be a law enforcement officer. Your brain isn't capable of processing life and death decisions fast enough. In theory having such an ability is an part of the duties your job requires. Probably one of the most important parts.

Let me ask you something. When the police go into a home, how long do they have to decide whether someone in that house is a threat or not before deciding whether to fire their weapon at them? Here's the answer. A fraction of a second. It's a situation law enforcement agents across this country face every say.
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Re: Browns HC Interviews Homewood Dog 01/16/26 06:10 PM
I agree. I think Monken is a product of John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson. I think that it would be a mistake to hire him in any capacity.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 06:07 PM
Quit picking on the #newcomers!
Walz - they're taking more of our neighbors, what should we do???

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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 06:04 PM
So she said there was no internal bleeding??

And Loookie up above says he was never taken to the hospital.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 06:02 PM
The day after the fatal Jan. 7 shooting, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem told reporters Ross had been taken to the hospital, but he was released and home with family.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...red-internal-bleeding-torso/88182659007/
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 01/16/26 06:02 PM
This is why I basically quit baseball. All sanctity is gone.
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Re: college quarterback prospects FATE 01/16/26 05:59 PM
Yeah, there's really no choice if we're going to meander into another QB fantasy project.

Although there are other ways to secure that pick. I think Jimmy is considering the King's Ransom that will still be paid for Garrett. And it's hard to argue that wouldn't be a win-win-win for all three parties.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Just shut up man. You know that is BS.

No.

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It wasn't a death penalty. She died because she drove her car at an ICE officer.

You haven't been paying attention. She was trying to turn away from him. She wasn't "driving her car at him". But I have said I understand how in his position why he took the first shot. You have no excuse for the second and third shot. So just shut up man.

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I know you are a smart enough guy to know you don't try to flee the law and start driving at a law enforcement officer. Any dumb ass knows that doesn't end well.

And any dumb ass knows you don't continue shooting at someone once there is no longer a threat. Some of you keep trying to make excuses for those second and third shots when there is none.

Sorry man. Police very rarely take just one shot. The don't shoot then stand around to see what happened. They shoot multiple times. Not doing so is a good way to get killed.

Turning the car away or not, she hit the guy.

That's been repeated numerous times. It's been talked about at least 100 times on this site before this event. Some think he should have stopped and thought about things during that 8/10ths of a second. You know, like in The Matrix.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 05:54 PM
I have no idea why you can't admit that a police firing their weapon is when they or someone elses life in danger. Not after such a threat no longer exists. None of this is hard.

The second and third shots were clearly taken when there was at least four feet of clearance between him and the vehicle and that distance was increasing.

As I've stated many times now, I understand why the first shot was taken. No matter her intent I can see how and why he would have felt his life was in danger and needed to make that shot.

My only contention with the first shot is the administration claims she was aiming the car at him and intentionally using it as a weapon. The video plainly shows that is a lie. Trump actually said "She ran over him." Which is yet another lie.

The agent turned his body to the left as she was driving away and made those last two shots when he was no longer in any danger. You can make up any excuse for that you like but that's exactly what happened. It's akin to saying when you shoot someone that is armed, even after the weapon they were holding is no longer a threat to you, just keep shooting.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/16/26 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Lyuokdea
Police Officer with "Internal Bleeding" was never examined by medical personal nor taken to a hospital - https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/15/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice

Ummm... I can't find anything from your article that supports that claim. I can't even find reference to his hospital visit (or lack thereof) in that piece. I've checked three times and Cntr/F 'ed "hospital" and "internal". Nothing. What am I missing?
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 Frenchy 01/16/26 05:51 PM
Unless the Dodgers get hammered with injuries, they will win the World Series. Probably for the next 2 or 3 seasons as well.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Ballpeen 01/16/26 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Just shut up man. You know that is BS.

No.

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It wasn't a death penalty. She died because she drove her car at an ICE officer.

You haven't been paying attention. She was trying to turn away from him. She wasn't "driving her car at him". But I have said I understand how in his position why he took the first shot. You have no excuse for the second and third shot. So just shut up man.

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I know you are a smart enough guy to know you don't try to flee the law and start driving at a law enforcement officer. Any dumb ass knows that doesn't end well.

And any dumb ass knows you don't continue shooting at someone once there is no longer a threat. Some of you keep trying to make excuses for those second and third shots when there is none.

Sorry man. Police very rarely take just one shot. The don't shoot then stand around to see what happened. They shoot multiple times. Not doing so is a good way to get killed.

Turning the car away or not, she hit the guy.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 05:40 PM
Videos show him walking away after the shooting with on signs of injury. But I won't say he didn't sustain an injury.

What I do know is if you combine the fact he walked away seemingly just fine and combine that with the fact he was seen and released from the hospital on the same day, any injury he may have sustained was not severe enough to be admitted to a hospital. So at the very least they are overplaying that part of the story and may be fabricating it all together.
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Re: college quarterback prospects oobernoober 01/16/26 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
We have to come out of this draft with two first round picks in '27. I can see #27 being traded to lock up that certainty.

I can definitely get behind this. If the original intention of the Jags trade was to get our QB in this upcoming draft, trading it again makes all the sense in the world.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN oobernoober 01/16/26 05:35 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/jan/15/cbs-news-ice-officer-injuries

Some are skeptical of the internal bleeding story. It certainly didn't look to me like her car hit him with any sort of force, but it's hard to tell.


One of my favorite things to do these days is poke fun at 'guerilla journalists' and the sensationalism that they put out there... but unfortunately it's the major news outlets that keep failing to get their act together.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 PitDAWG 01/16/26 05:32 PM
I don't see waiting until pick #39 as a good gamble to make any major upgrade to the WR room. It's certainly possible but certainly not a good gamble for a major impact.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PitDAWG 01/16/26 05:29 PM
From everything I've seen trump has been telling NATO what to do and not the other way around.

The latest thing is telling NATO to support the U.S. taking Greenland or he may place tariffs on them for not doing so. I would call that extortion but that's such an ugly word.
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Re: Browns HC Interviews bonefish 01/16/26 05:27 PM
I don't see Monkin as a head coach.

He has never been a head coach and he has been around a long time.

I would be disappointed but sure it could happen.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Lyuokdea 01/16/26 05:25 PM
Police Officer with "Internal Bleeding" was never examined by medical personal nor taken to a hospital - https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/15/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice
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