Re: Browns News cont.
FATE
06/24/26 03:08 PM
These front offices take calls all day, every day (hyperbole) regarding a host players so I won't dismiss that Sanders' name has come up. The question is (1) whether it was serious or not and (2) what is the value? My guess, based on how he played last year, the value is very low. I don't see a team trading for him based on any 2025 draft hype. Ding! Ding! Ding! Nothing to see here, folks.
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Re: Random NFL News
FATE
06/24/26 03:07 PM
If you are an alcoholic or drug addict the NFL will bend over backwards to help you with your addiction. If you whup your girlfriend's azz you'll get a slap-on-the-wrist suspension and go to anger management classes. It reads to me like they aren't interested in giving/helping this kid with his addiction. Now comes the virtue signaling by the shield.
It would seem to me that this decision makes him an undrafted, free agent. That should make teams even MORE willing to take a chance.
Lastly, how is it even remotely reasonable to NOT hold a supplemental draft? The shield is essentially saying that they have no legal basis to stop the kid from joining the league...so their answer is to shut off the established avenue to do so. I can see the shield losing this battle in court...and I think they should. It's not only remotely reasonable, it's basically protocol to NOT hold a supplemental draft for any reason. I don't think you'll see many in the future and I think when you do, it will be nearly 100% because a player is experiencing a legitimate hardship. That's actually one of the driving factors for ever having the SD in the first place. Now that players earn NIL money and are "free to roam" from team to team in college (don't have to sit a year if they're academically ineligible at a certain school), this will be (and has been) basically a thing of the past. They certainly aren't going to hold one, in a rush job, for someone with game integrity issues. So, in that respect, you're correct, this is virtue signaling by the shield.
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Re: Random NFL News
MemphisBrownie
06/24/26 02:31 PM
If you are an alcoholic or drug addict the NFL will bend over backwards to help you with your addiction. If you whup your girlfriend's azz you'll get a slap-on-the-wrist suspension and go to anger management classes. It reads to me like they aren't interested in giving/helping this kid with his addiction. Now comes the virtue signaling by the shield.
It would seem to me that this decision makes him an undrafted, free agent. That should make teams even MORE willing to take a chance.
Lastly, how is it even remotely reasonable to NOT hold a supplemental draft? The shield is essentially saying that they have no legal basis to stop the kid from joining the league...so their answer is to shut off the established avenue to do so. I can see the shield losing this battle in court...and I think they should. The ironic thing in all of this is how much the NFL is in bed with, well, NFL gambling. Reports surmise the NFL receive anywhere from $130MM to $270MM annually in sponsorships and ad revenue from sports gambling sites. This allegedly comes from a deal In 2021 where they signed a five year contract worth $1 Billon w/ sites like DraftKings, Fanduel, Caesar's, etc. I'd take their concern about gambling more seriously if they weren't so invested in getting paid by the industry.
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Re: Random NFL News
PitDAWG
06/24/26 02:01 PM
The NFL decided not to hold a supplemental draft because it did not have enough time to review the complex case of former Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby, who had applied to enter the draft following a permanent NCAA gambling ban.
The league stated that Sorsby's application did not include a complete record of the NCAA's investigation. Because of the short window between his petition and league rules requiring the draft to be held at least seven days prior to the first training camp, the NFL opted against hosting the draft entirely. This decision effectively means Sorsby cannot join the NFL until the 2027 draft.
The NFL hasn't had a supplemental draft since 2019. It's an option left up to the discretion of the NFL that isn't owed to anyone.
I get what you're saying and I agree with you to a point. But a player who is known to gamble repeatedly on his own games casts a direct shadow as to whether the games are rigged. That's why it's a topic the NFL takes so seriously.
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Re: Browns News cont.
bonefish
06/24/26 01:42 PM
I cannot understand what starting DW would accomplish.
He would have to look superior to Shedeur. I mean every player would have to think DW is the better player.
It would have to be a case where Monken would have no real choice other than DW. Shedeur then would be expendable because if he cannot beat DW. What would be his future in Cleveland?
The Browns did not sign a veteran. They didn't trade for a quarterback. They drafted a project who will probably be on the practice squad.
They traded Myles for a player and draft picks. Gabriel and Sanders were late round picks.
Clearly the plan is to draft a first round QB in 27.
Shedeur has to convince the team through play on the field that they don't need another quarterback.
He has to play in order to know one way or the other.
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Re: Random NFL News
WSU Willie
06/24/26 01:16 PM
If you are an alcoholic or drug addict the NFL will bend over backwards to help you with your addiction. If you whup your girlfriend's azz you'll get a slap-on-the-wrist suspension and go to anger management classes. It reads to me like they aren't interested in giving/helping this kid with his addiction. Now comes the virtue signaling by the shield.
It would seem to me that this decision makes him an undrafted, free agent. That should make teams even MORE willing to take a chance.
Lastly, how is it even remotely reasonable to NOT hold a supplemental draft? The shield is essentially saying that they have no legal basis to stop the kid from joining the league...so their answer is to shut off the established avenue to do so. I can see the shield losing this battle in court...and I think they should.
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Re: Browns News cont.
MemphisBrownie
06/24/26 12:51 PM
I view Rizzo and Mary Kay in the same light, as in they are connected to sources in town that provide decent information, but their opinions/takes are wildly horrible. That said, I can't stand Rizzo. MKC I can stand, just think she is a joke.
These front offices take calls all day, every day (hyperbole) regarding a host players so I won't dismiss that Sanders' name has come up. The question is (1) whether it was serious or not and (2) what is the value? My guess, based on how he played last year, the value is very low. I don't see a team trading for him based on any 2025 draft hype.
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Re: Browns News cont.
IrishDawg42
06/24/26 12:42 PM
I agree, talking heads want listeners and will say just about anything to get a response.
In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns would prefer 4 QBs in training camp given all the new bodies at receiver. I don't think they would be looking to trade anyone for a 5th round pick. Maybe after a preseason game or two when they make some roster decisions.
With Sorsby off the table, a team looking for a young project to groom over the next few years might be interested based on what they have seen so far. Think a team like the Eagles. If they aren't liking what they see out of Cole Payton, someone like Shedeur might be in play. If you were choosing a guy for your roster today, would you rather have Sanders or Andy Dalton? Dalton is their current backup if Payton doesn't look good in camp.
At the end of the day, I agree, you wouldn't trade him for a 5th. However, if Watson looks like your starter and Sanders doesn't show enough to even make you think for a second you might not have to draft a QB in 2027... well, then a 3rd rounder would start to entice you quite a bit. We have Watson/Sanders showdown, then Gabriel or Green backup.. removing Sanders removes the question on the back end as well. Gabriel would be the backup with Green the emergency 3rd QB.
It comes down to if Sanders looks has traits Monken believes to be franchise capable AND if a team is willing to over pay.
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Re: Browns News cont.
bonefish
06/24/26 11:21 AM
I don't listen to local radio because I don't live in Ohio.
But I saw a clip from Tony Rizzo about the Browns taking calls to trade Shedeur.
I don't know Rizzo. However, that sure sounds like a fabrication.
What would Shedeur bring in a trade and who would trade for him? IMO you might get a fifth. Why would you trade him for a fifth? He was in OTA's taking first team reps. Monken has said no decision on the Qb has been made.
So, they would hand DW the job based upon what?
What team would trade for Shedeur? They don't know him. He has not played that great. He is still a question mark. Also the timing makes no sense. Teams have their rosters. They have been practicing. Why would a team bring in a young unproven QB now?
I guess radio guys like to throw mud out there just to stimulate a response.
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Re: Aging
bonefish
06/24/26 12:52 AM
Read it. Started it the first day available.
I read everything by Preston & Child. I wait for it.
Check out Young Sherlock from Prime. It starts slowly but then each episode it gets more loaded.
I have thought for years that Pendergast would be on film as a series.
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Re: Aging
FATE
06/24/26 12:15 AM
lol. I knew what you meant, just bustin' chops. My memory of "the good old days" never fades. I can remember everything like it was yesterday. Yet it's a challenge to remember things I did this week; or the name of a restaurant we ate at last month. It's more weird than it is worrisome. Speaking of reading though, not sure if you know about this. It came out a few months ago and it's only $3.99 on Kindle for prime days...
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Re: Aging
bonefish
06/23/26 10:56 PM
I use a Kindle.
What I mean is mentally when I open it up. I remember where I was in the story like what was happening.
When you get an annual physical as a senior. It is not really a cognitive test but they give you a test.
They will give you three words. Then continue with other things and like five minutes later they will ask what were the three words.
It is a baseline test for dementia. You begin to lose scratchpad memory.
It makes me laugh because days later I cannot get the words out of my head. I went back a year later and told the doctor what the previous years'words were.
Friends always ask how do you remember all those details about things we did.
When I was in tenth grade all tenth graders had to take a geography test. Capitals of all the states, capitals of countries and many other geography related questions. A bunch of us spent days quizzing each other. It was like 300 questions. I was the only person to get a perfect score.
Doctors ask that you try new things like taking a language course. I did that and it made me crazy. I had to stop because I kept thinking about the conversation sentences of the lessons. It drove me nuts.
Songs stay in my head for days like a broken record. I have to listen to different songs to get the other songs out of my head. I play the songs in my head while swimming.
I still notice that things are not the same as they once were. I make mental mistakes that I would have never made before.
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Re: Aging
FATE
06/23/26 09:24 PM
I read a lot. But I don't forget where I was in the book when I pick it back up.
There are these things called "bookmarks"...
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Re: Aging
bonefish
06/23/26 08:22 PM
"I know I am old, it's hard to face. Why, during sex, I lose my place!"
"If it weren't for pickpockets, I'd have no sex life at all."
Love Rodney.
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Re: Random NFL News
PitDAWG
06/23/26 07:44 PM
While his attorney may not be willing to admit it, it's over. But yes, this will make his path to the NFL even harder. I have no idea why the players union would want to get involved in a fight about someone who isn't even an NFL player. At this stage of the game I think his attorney is just making a lot of noise.
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Re: Aging
bonefish
06/23/26 07:19 PM
I don't know how to help in "word searching?"
I notice it when I talk to friends my age. I end up filling in the words for them.
We joke about it. But it is common.
It happens once in a while with me. One thing that pops up is spelling. A simple word will sometimes draw a blank. Then I think "wait a minute how did I forget that"?
I read a lot. But I don't forget where I was in the book when I pick it back up.
Overall everyone gets what I call "slipage." You are not as crisp as you were.
Dementia of course is very real. It probably is a combination of heredity and lifestyle. Not sure what you can do.
I see ads about supplements but I don't trust that unless it is verified with controlled case studies.
As long as you stick to an exercise program. That is important. On the wagon and off doesn't work.
Flexibility is important to try and maintain and that goes along with joint protection.
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Re: Random NFL News
hitt
06/23/26 07:17 PM
Not Quite- always Lawyers involved- Sorsby's attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, called the NFL's decision "a violation of the CBA and the law" and said in a statement to CBS Sports that "we will pursue this immediately with the NFLPA." I don't get it, he-Sorsby- gambled on his/other college football games- players betting on games/ especially theirs is universally a no/no......yet, his lawyer says NFL broke law.....duh!, he ain't in the league yet and MOST employers can reject a prospective employee for poor judgement- he might not EVER play in NFL for his personal stupidity.
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Re: What If?
Floquinho
06/23/26 06:28 PM
How did the Browns get hereIf Quincy applied the same standards to everyone involved, his credibility wouldn’t take nearly as much damage. It’s hard to take moral criticism seriously when someone is so focused on the speck in another person’s eye while ignoring the beam in their own. A young, ambitious player making the biggest decision of his life should not be judged by the same standards as a middle-aged billionaire owner with unlimited resources, total authority, and the power to control every aspect of the situation. That should be self-evident. The more time passes, the more disappointed I become with the decision-makers involved. They had time. They had resources. They had access to more information than any of us. Most importantly, they had all the power in the world to handle this situation better. Think back to 2020 for a moment. The Browns felt like the team everyone wanted to root for. The players played with joy, energy, and passion. The fanbase was dancing, singing, and embracing the whole “Corvette Corvette” era. The “Same Old Browns” narrative finally felt dead. Even the touchdown celebrations were so much fun that fans couldn’t help but smile and join in. Five years later, it’s remarkable how completely an organization can lose its identity. The Browns team I fell in love with in 2020 doesn’t exist anymore. The culture, the energy, and the connection between the team and the fans have from my part of the world largely disappeared. All I can do now is hope that one day, before I’m gone, the Browns find their way back to being that team again.
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