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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 mgh888 03/23/26 07:59 PM
I think your summary is pretty spot on. He was put into an unwinnable position - he did the job as he saw it correctly and thoroughly and with an unbiased, non political agenda. Politics swept him up and vilified him which given his straight as an arrow reputation, military service and having been a registered Republican, was just sad and I guess an indication of the times and the impact of MAGA and the likes of Steve Bannon and company.

It is worth remembering that the reason for the inquiry/report was justified. Many people were prosecuted on the back of the report. As someone above mentioned Mueller always maintained it was not the reports purpose to say the PoTUS committed obstruction but to report the facts and let Congress decide.

With regards specifically to Trump the report did not exonerate him and stated: "If we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so" ... The report then provided what were 11 examples of behaviour exhibiting "Potential Obstruction". . . . including: Ordering White House Counsel Don McGahn to have Mueller fired (McGahn refused and threatened to resign). AND Privately sending messages of support to Flynn and Manafort; suggesting pardons to discourage them from cooperating.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 lampdogg 03/23/26 06:54 PM
LOL!

She’s terrible. I mean, did she really write that and hit “send”?

That’s embarrassing.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 oobernoober 03/23/26 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Funny how views differ. I thought Mueller was the POS.

However, RIP and my thoughts are with his family.

I commend you on showing infinite more class on the matter than our current president. I can understand why you feel that way you do about Mueller. I offer my own perspective...

I felt that he was put into a very difficult position with his last assignment. I think it was quite clear that that investigation was doomed to "fail" from the start, and his name would be dragged into the mud along with it. By fail, I mean it was always going to be made into more of a political sideshow regardless of the strength/rigor of investigation taking place. Also, our govt has a pretty consistent MO of not wanting to hold anyone accountable if they of political significance.

Not only was he doomed to not make EVERYONE happy, he was also not going to make ANYONE happy.

MAGA couldn't accept anyone in Trump's sphere being indicted, and dems weren't going to tolerate Trump come away unscathed (ie uncharged).


Obviously, I'm not a huge fan of Trump the person. I have a hard time imagining him turning down help in winning a campaign and he's demonstrated several times that he doesn't feel laws apply to him.
I'm also not a huge fan of way our elected officials hold themselves accountable.

So between those 2 things, I thought he threaded the needle about as well as he could have. He didn't upset establish precedent of failing to hold our presidential candidates accountable for criminal/nefarious actions, but he was able to get his pound of flesh in terms of the folks he was able to charge. Again... won't make anyone happy, but was the best he was going to do.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 Damanshot 03/23/26 06:05 PM
RIP Mr. Mueller....

Trump is once again a DAMN FOOL!
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 WooferDawg 03/23/26 05:58 PM
Mueller fault was that he played by the pre-Trump playbook and Trump turned his words against him.

Mueller would not indict because he believed that was the work of Congress (House). Yep, that went no where.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/23/26 05:17 PM
" Trump, fearing Iran's response, backed down from his 48-hour ultimatum:
'I told the Department of Defense not to carry out any attacks on Iran's energy infrastructure for the time being' "

Just me - I don't believe Trump is smart enough to fear anything and I do not believe Iran is a serious threat to the USA or anyone not bordering Iran. I do think Trump might want to pull out and end the conflict/war/excursion or whatever else you want to call it -- because there is no "winning" without ground troops. Price of oil is up to $119. Markets have tanked. Iran was not a threat before and is not a threat now ... although you could argue Iran is MORE dangerous now. They were at the negotiating table, gave up huge concessions according to the 3rd party negotiators - and Israel and USA bombed the crappola out of them... which is sort of what Israel did in another "negotiation" within the last 12-18 months with another entity. ey ey ey.
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Re: Iranian War northlima dawg 03/23/26 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
"I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

"BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP"


Except every contact in Iran has denied any negotiation. Clearly Donny is trying to backtrack and find a way to exit the mess he created while saving face ... but he's doing it miserably. Why is he doing it now - because the markets are tanking and at the end of the day that is on him 100% and it's one thing he actually cares about (as well as himself).

Again - what does success look like. There is no answer from the fanboys - only deflection. Why - because this complete cluster fk is completely and wholly on Trump and his ego and is a complete failure.


https://www.ndtvprofit.com/world/tr...ter-us-holds-off-energy-strikes-11254790
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/23/26 04:36 PM
"I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

"BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP"


Except every contact in Iran has denied any negotiation. Clearly Donny is trying to backtrack and find a way to exit the mess he created while saving face ... but he's doing it miserably. Why is he doing it now - because the markets are tanking and at the end of the day that is on him 100% and it's one thing he actually cares about (as well as himself).

Again - what does success look like. There is no answer from the fanboys - only deflection. Why - because this complete cluster fk is completely and wholly on Trump and his ego and is a complete failure.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 03/23/26 04:04 PM
News from the future!

Immediately after being elected as president in 2028 Gavin Newsom officially changed the name of the Trump National Doral Miami to the Golf of Mexico.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 BADdog 03/23/26 04:02 PM
thats their playbook
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 PitDAWG 03/23/26 04:00 PM
Could you translate that into English?
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 BADdog 03/23/26 03:49 PM
Biden! Trans!
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Re: Browns News 6.0 PitDAWG 03/23/26 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Breaking news the Browns need a receiver and they may draft one somewhere in the draft.

Mary K is all over this.

Couldn't have said it better myself! thumbsup

rofl

She has what is known as a firm grasp of the obvious.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 bonefish 03/23/26 03:28 PM
Breaking news the Browns need a receiver and they may draft one somewhere in the draft.

Mary K is all over this.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 MemphisBrownie 03/23/26 03:24 PM
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Re: Quarterback Defined PitDAWG 03/23/26 03:20 PM
I'm not actually sure. I think it certainly has to be an improvement but how much of an improvement is yet to be seen. It seems the signings so far have been players strong in either pass protection or run blocking but not what would be considered well rounded players. I know that scheme also plays a part so it could be that the scheme will make up for some of that.

In the past I've gotten either far too positive or far too negative in terms of FA signings. It's caused me to be much more in a wait and see pattern than a projection pattern.
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 03/23/26 03:14 PM
And if all of this wasn't confusing enough, now trump claims to be trying to work out a deal with Iran but isn't even sure he's talking to the people in charge of Iran it would seem..........................

Live Updates: Trump says ultimatum for Iran to reopen Strait of Hormuz postponed amid negotiations

"Regime is fragmented" and may not know who is talking, McMaster says

The Iranian regime is "fragmented" due to strikes on the country - so fragmented that its own foreign ministry "probably doesn't know" who in the country is talking to interlocutors or to the U.S. directly, said retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster, a CBS News contributor.

"I think we're going to see a lot of this kind of confusing reporting because the Iranians are so fragmented from these strikes," he said.

President Trump said Monday the U.S. is talking to a "top person" in Iran, but that the person is not the supreme leader. Mr. Trump declined to identify who the U.S. was speaking to, "because I don't want him to be killed."

"We're dealing with the man who, I believe, is the most respected, and the leader," Mr. Trump said. "It's a little tough - we've wiped out everybody."


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Trump says U.S. negotiating with a "top person" in Iran who is "not the supreme leader"

President Trump said Monday the U.S. is speaking with the "most respected" person and the "leader" in Iran, but that it's not the supreme leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei.

"A top person," the president told reporters on the tarmac at West Palm Beach International Airport. "Don't forget, we've wiped out the leadership phase one, phase two and largely, phase three. But we're dealing with the man who, I believe, is the most respected, and the leader. It's a little tough - we've wiped out everybody."

The president was asked if he meant the supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei.

"No, not the supreme leader," he said.

The president said he can't name the person the U.S. is speaking with "because I don't want him to be killed."

Mr. Trump said "we have not heard" from Mojtaba Khamenei, although he did not name him, referring to him only as "the son" and "the second supreme leader."

"We don't know if he's living," Mr. Trump said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-israel-trump-ultimatum-strait-of-hormuz/

So they're negotiating with someone they think might be in charge but they're not sure he is in charge?
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Re: Quarterback Defined IrishDawg42 03/23/26 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm not sure the evidence backs up your thought on the matter in regards to Stefanski not untilzing WR's. Amari Cooper was signed and in his first two years here under Stefanksi he had #1 WR numbers. In 2022 he had 1160 yards and 9 TD's averaging 14.9 yards per reception. In 2023 his TD's declined but he had 1250 yards averaging 17.4 yards per catch.

Jeudy had similar stats in 2024 but fell off like a rock in 2025. I don't think Stefanski suddenly changed the way he used WR's in 2025.

I get it and I agree that Stefanksi, much like Monken uses an O that heavily depends on the TE. But the evidence also dictates when he has a good WR he uses them.

I would attribute it much more to having poor choices at the QB position combined with a porous OL.

That very well could be.

What are your thoughts on what has been done with the OLine? Do you think it has enough improvements right now to help the QB, whoever that may be? I know 2025 was an anomaly with all the injuries as well. But do you think they have raised the level enough to help a guy out in 2026?
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 PitDAWG 03/23/26 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Funny how views differ. I thought Mueller was the POS.

However, RIP and my thoughts are with his family.

I'm more than slightly curious about this too. Mueller wasn't the one who decided trump and the Russians should be investigated. He was actually appointed to do that job. He did the investigation and submitted his findings. I think the right has made him their boogeyman. One of many because every time anyone points a finger at trump suddenly they're the bad guy and everyone is just picking on trump. At what point will they find a different playbook?
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Re: Quarterback Defined PitDAWG 03/23/26 02:49 PM
I'm not sure the evidence backs up your thought on the matter in regards to Stefanski not untilzing WR's. Amari Cooper was signed and in his first two years here under Stefanksi he had #1 WR numbers. In 2022 he had 1160 yards and 9 TD's averaging 14.9 yards per reception. In 2023 his TD's declined but he had 1250 yards averaging 17.4 yards per catch.

Jeudy had similar stats in 2024 but fell off like a rock in 2025. I don't think Stefanski suddenly changed the way he used WR's in 2025.

I get it and I agree that Stefanksi, much like Monken uses an O that heavily depends on the TE. But the evidence also dictates when he has a good WR he uses them.

I would attribute it much more to having poor choices at the QB position combined with a porous OL.
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Re: Quarterback Defined IrishDawg42 03/23/26 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Monken has a reputation of evaluating quarterbacks.

During the head coach interviewing process with the Browns I am sure he was asked about Shedeur.

The Browns did not play in the free agent QB market.

There were guys available. Murray, Willis, Tua, and others. No bite.

Now the draft draws closer. Will Berry lean on Monken to evaluate guys like Simpson, Allar and the rest?

Or, are the Browns rolling with Shedeur? I am not buying anything about DW other than a backup.

Allar will be a later pick so, he falls into the category of developmental QB. A possible third round or fourth pick with low risk high reward potential.

Simpson is different because most likely he gets drafted in the second half of the first round. He would still be a developmental QB but going in the first round makes him a developmental priority. First round grade you get treated differently.

Shedeur would still be the starter on paper. However, Simpson will get looked at in a different light than Shedeur was as a fifth rounder.

Monken was hired to develop the offense. IMO he will be given real authority. The offense is his. His voice should carry weight.

I absolutely think Monken will be charged with evaluating these QBs in the draft. I just don't think he is going to elevate Simpson because he shook his dads hand several years ago. Getting one of either Allar, who I have ahead of Simpson or Simpson in the 3rd or more likely the 4th round is a favorable spot to get another project QB.

Someone mentioned in another thread Cole Payton. I think he is just as high a candidate as Ty Simpson. He shows more skill on film, but plays against much lower opponents. If it's me.. I am either taking a chance on Allar in the 4th, if he is there. If he isn't there, then I am spending a 5th on Payton and giving him a chance to show it isn't all about the lower competition level.

Personally, going off of prospect evaluations and not giving Sanders credit for having a year of pro under his belt, I would still have Allar and Payton rated ahead of him. For that matter, I would have Simpson and Beck rated slightly ahead of Shadeur also. Nussmeier right behind Sanders and then you start getting into the Klubnik and Green guys that are true projects that could take years to develop.

Taking Watson out of the equation..If I had to have a guy that could step in week 4 if Sanders got hurt, I would want Drew Allar. If I knew I was getting 10 weeks out of Sanders, he failed and wanted to get a good look at another guy for the final 7-8 games, I would put Payton in there. He is going to need more time, but the extra 6 weeks should get him up to speed enough for a rough evaluation. Simpson and Beck, I would really want to evaluate from a practice standpoint and plan on drafting a QB in 2027 if Sanders fails. I simply am not as high on Simpson as everyone else is.
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Re: Quarterback Defined IrishDawg42 03/23/26 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Juedy played well for us at first. He’s better suited for a #2 or 3. I think he’ll be fine playing with a legit #1and #2
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Yet with an APY of $17.5 million, Jeudy is ranked 24th among NFL wide receivers in annual compensation.

Part of the problem is Stefanski's offense. He favors the TE as the first read, so they typically get the most targets. I know Monken also favors TEs in his offense, but I also think he has a willingness to form an offense around the weapons available to him as a whole, not just put a playbook out there based on what he wants to see.

I am in a wait and see mode with Jeudy and what Monken does to utilize him. Regardless, Jeudy thrived as a #2 receiver in Denver, I think he would put us in a much better situation being the #2 in this offense. Finding a guy that is fully capable of being a #1 and carrying an offense when needed, despite knowing they are going to gameplan against him will go a long way for what ever QB we have behind center. Right now we Jeudy and the TEs and RBs. Pretty easy to play close to the line when you don't have anyone better than Isaiah Bond to contend with. Now... Bond will also be in year two, so there could be a step forward from him as well.

I would still like to see a WR at #6, simply because of how my personal draft board falls. There are (3) receivers I have in that top ten range, all worthy of the #6 overall imho. It just makes it better that we would probably have our choice of any of these guys at #6. Then I would also like to come back and take another one if both the LTs are gone at #24.

Pairing Carnell Tate and Chris Brazzell with Jerry Jeudy and Harold Fannin would make the offensive line's job much easier, as well as any QB you put back there. I would expect Tate to be effective immediately and Brazzell to fight for snaps alongside Bond. I just don't see any other prospects, unless someone falls unexpectedly, that would be a better fit than one of these guys.

To put this into perspective, I expect Tate, Tyson, Boston and Lemon to all be gone before #24. I also expect Brazzell to go in the first round. Then Omar Cooper and CJ Concepcion have a chance for first round as well. 5-7 WRs gone in the first round. With the level we have in our draft room, I couldn't be disappointed if two of them went to the Browns with their two first round picks. That is if both Proctor and Freeling are gone at #24. I still couldn't justify picking a G/RT prospect at #24 to make him or one of the other FA signings play LT if Jones isn't healthy enough to play. I think there are some that I could justify at #39.

I can't wait for the draft, this is going to be a fun one.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 mgh888 03/23/26 01:35 PM
Explain to me why you thought he was a POS .... go in to as much detail as possible. Thank you if you do take the time to do that.
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Re: Quarterback Defined bonefish 03/23/26 01:09 PM
Monken has a reputation of evaluating quarterbacks.

During the head coach interviewing process with the Browns I am sure he was asked about Shedeur.

The Browns did not play in the free agent QB market.

There were guys available. Murray, Willis, Tua, and others. No bite.

Now the draft draws closer. Will Berry lean on Monken to evaluate guys like Simpson, Allar and the rest?

Or, are the Browns rolling with Shedeur? I am not buying anything about DW other than a backup.

Allar will be a later pick so, he falls into the category of developmental QB. A possible third round or fourth pick with low risk high reward potential.

Simpson is different because most likely he gets drafted in the second half of the first round. He would still be a developmental QB but going in the first round makes him a developmental priority. First round grade you get treated differently.

Shedeur would still be the starter on paper. However, Simpson will get looked at in a different light than Shedeur was as a fifth rounder.

Monken was hired to develop the offense. IMO he will be given real authority. The offense is his. His voice should carry weight.
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