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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux 3rd_and_20 12/10/25 11:13 AM
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool GMdawg 12/10/25 10:02 AM
Congrats Brian

I'm tanking faster than the Browns lol
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Re: Somalians mgh888 12/10/25 09:20 AM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Like all the charges against the President.
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Say What ???

You're not paying attention or you are convineintly forgetting all the very many charges against Trump that have been substantiated. Ajudicated as a rapist - found liable in a civil court of law. Financial misconduct ... personally I find the words out of his own mouth where he confessed to sexual abuse by grabbing girl's vaginas without their consent to be an admission of guilt. Even the Mueller report was actually damning and sighted obstruction - but Barr lied about the content and the narrative was changed.

By comparison you have the POTUS saying out loud he wants to specifically go after political opponents who just happen to be peaople who tried to hold him accountable. You've got observable facts in malpractice in order to bring those charges against those targets - and then the cases were not tried - they were dismissed.

Completely - 100% - total and utter false equivelents.

Has there been too much noise and people going over board with things Trump says? Does? Sure ... none of that diminishes the big things he did, does and continues to do.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 superbowldogg 12/10/25 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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That being said ... I don't think the Browns could beat Ohio State or Indiana.

Of course they would.


We will have to agree to disagree. I don't think the Browns could even put up a decent game against either of them. Both of those teams play with way better discipline and have more first round picks on both sides of the rosters. LOL I think the Browns would get blown out by either of them to the point it would be embarrassing to watch.


This has been covered a lot.

Here is some perspective...

There was the annual Chicago Charities College All-Star Game from the 1934 until 1976.

From 1948 until 1976 the college all-stars managed to beat 5 NFL teams.

The last college All-Star win came in 1963, when Otto Graham helped beat the Packers, 20–17.
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Re: Are we tanking? superbowldogg 12/10/25 02:48 AM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
What background is it you have in NFL coaching again? tsktsk

Come on now ... what experience do any of the posters have of being an NFL coach?


Besides CoachB?

no one.

rofl rofl rofl
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Re: Somalians Ballpeen 12/10/25 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Get all caught up in what? What do any Minnesota officials have to do with it?

If I were you I wouldn't get caught up in all the buzz of "allegations". I mean if you bother to look around you. They still haven't found anyone foolish enough to try and bring charges against Comey again and a second grand jury refused to approve charges on again Letitia James. So far a lot of allegations have shown to be nothing but hot air.

Like all the charges against the President.

Anyway, we can just wait and see where all of this goes. You have your suspected outcome, as do I.
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Re: Bernie archbolddawg 12/10/25 01:12 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by jfanent
Originally Posted by OCD
I’m glad, but surprised he got a liver after his past drinking caused the issue. They won’t give a smoker a new heart or lungs, just saying I’m surprised.

The threshold is 6mos sobriety, sometimes they'll make an exception.

Exceptions like having the transplant performed at UH who are the Browns medical partner with the influence and backing of the Haslams behind the scenes.

Who knows?

I don't think the transplant operation works like you are suggesting.

My basketball coach had a liver transplant there about 12-14 months ago. He wasn't anyone special.
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Re: Bernie Milk Man 12/10/25 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Originally Posted by OCD
I’m glad, but surprised he got a liver after his past drinking caused the issue. They won’t give a smoker a new heart or lungs, just saying I’m surprised.

The threshold is 6mos sobriety, sometimes they'll make an exception.

Exceptions like having the transplant performed at UH who are the Browns medical partner with the influence and backing of the Haslams behind the scenes.
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Re: Ultra Processed Foods Bull_Dawg 12/10/25 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Many prescription drugs do come with possible side effects. Some more than others. I certainly understand that you know all to well and certainly more than many of the rest of us how much that's true. The greater the risk of your illness the more the risk of side effects one is willing to take. And they take that into consideration when approving such drugs. If a human being is facing a death sentence the acceptance of the side effects is the lesser of the two evils.

By far and away most prescription drugs while they do have possible side effects, the odds are very low you will have such side effects.

But if the pubic in general ate a healthier diet they would certainly not need nearly as much medication and suffer from things quite common today such as diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure. All of which lead to even more severe outcomes in the long term.

I think the chance of having side effects are actually rather high. Not the most severe ones, but ones that do effect comfort and well being, so that users then take other products to treat those. Sadly, that's "good business." Completely healthy people don't need pharmaceutical products. It incentivizes constant medications and "acceptable" "side effects" over actually treating and fixing problems. Keeping people sick and "alive" is most profitable even if the quality of that life is poor.

Unfortunately, even "whole foods" aren't necessarily healthy. All apples don't provide the same nutrition. All beef isn't fed the same way. A lot of foods are chemically treated to appear fresh rather than actually being fresh. Methods of production (and the resulting nutritional content) can be wildly different for the same variety of produce.
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Re: Are we tanking? bonefish 12/09/25 11:12 PM
In the big picture the only thing that matters for the rest of this season is the play of Shedeur.

The Browns will be faced with the decision to draft a quarterback in the first round. If Shedeur convinces the team to invest in building around him.

It changes everything. If they select a quarterback then we go into next year undecided on who will start.

Shedeur has given them reason to look closely.
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Re: Are we tanking? Homewood Dog 12/09/25 10:59 PM
Exactly. Common sense has to rule out in this situation. We just had a great draft. It would be really dumb IMO to change our HC and GM. A move like that would set us back even further. Let Berry have another draft and FA signings. Give Sheduer time to develop and see where we stand after that. If we make the right moves this offseason we can contend for the division next year.
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Re: Are we tanking? bonefish 12/09/25 10:15 PM
We don't need to tank to lose.

The Browns won three games last year. They have started a forty year old quarterback and a third and fifth round rookie.

There is one starter left on the OL. The running backs are two rookies. One of the starting TE's is a rookie.

The receiver room has one veteran in Jeudy who has is second in drops. The other receivers have done very little.

IMO Haslam knows the story and has no intention of firing KS after this year.

Other opinions on KS really do not matter. The media exits because of the attention they get. In order to get the attention the more outraged and demonstrative the voice. The more likely the attention.

The Browns will be underdogs in the remaining four games. More than likely they will have a top three pick in the 26 draft.

They will play to win and probably will not win. And when this season ends it will quickly be forgotten by players and coaches.

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Re: Player News Homewood Dog 12/09/25 08:29 PM
Goes to show how devoid of good QB's the league is, both starters and backups.
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Re: Player News bonefish 12/09/25 08:10 PM
That is wild.

I would love to see him play.
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired PitDAWG 12/09/25 08:00 PM
It's my TDS. You know, it's not the things trump does and says that's the problem. It's when we post it and talk about it that's the problem. Don't believe me? Just ask a MAGA.
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired BADdog 12/09/25 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
If they were serious about fighting drugs trump wouldn't have just pardoned Jaun Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras who was convicted of smuggling over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S.

stop nit picking!
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Re: Player News PitDAWG 12/09/25 07:28 PM
Colts sign 44-year-old QB Philip Rivers in wake of Daniel Jones' season-ending injury

Rivers joins the Indianapolis practice squad

The Indianapolis Colts' 2025 season is in danger of ending on a sour note, as quarterback Daniel Jones went down with a torn Achilles in Sunday's loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. With the division and a playoff spot on the line, the 8-5 Colts are bringing back the quarterback that started for them the last time Indianapolis made the postseason. Enter Phillip Rivers.

The Colts are signing the 44-year-old quarterback to their practice squad, CBS Sports NFL insider Jonathan Jones reports. Rivers worked out for the team Tuesday, and the team felt comfortable enough to add him to the mix. Rivers became a semifinalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame just last month, but a potential induction will have to wait.

Rivers, who is now a grandfather, joins a new-look quarterback room headlined by Riley Leonard and Brett Rypien. Leonard is considered to be the new QB1 with Anthony Richardson still on injured reserve. However, the rookie is dealing with a knee injury, and it's unknown if he will start Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks.

There are four quarterbacks 44 or older to start an NFL game: Tom Brady, Vinny Testaverde, Warren Moon and Steve DeBerg. Next Sunday, it will have been 1,800 days, or almost five years, since Rivers last took a snap in an NFL game, according to CBS Sports Research.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/indianapolis-colts-qb-philip-rivers-visit-daniel-jones-injury/

saywhat
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired PitDAWG 12/09/25 07:20 PM
If they were serious about fighting drugs trump wouldn't have just pardoned Jaun Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras who was convicted of smuggling over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S.
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Re: Are we tanking? PitDAWG 12/09/25 07:16 PM
I'm certainly not opposed to differing viewpoints. I think we both know that isn't the issue here. But at some point it becomes an obsession to the degree at which we hear it ad nauseam from the exact same people. That's usually the point at which I throw a little sarcasm in their direction.

I would certainly not try to defend Stefanski to the point of being some great NFL HC. But as much as people will say what they will, there have only been two seasons when the Browns have had decent and healthy QB's on their roster since he has been here. And one year it was Flacco after being pulled off of his couch. In both cases he made the very most of the talent he had. In the case of Flacco especially he took a mediocre journeyman and certainly got the most possible out of what was left of his skill set.

I felt Hue needed an opportunity to show what he could do with more talent on the roster. He was given that opportunity and failed miserably at it. That meant it was time for him to go. In both seasons where Stefanksi had any semblance of talent at the QB position that has not been shown to be the case. There really is no comparison there.

Pass happy is a somewhat vague term used as a generalization. The objective each week is to break down your opponent and try to exploit their weaknesses. Each week you also must look at your own injuries in determining which is the best method to about attacking your opponents. Two factors people often ignore for the most part and totally fail to mention is the scoreboard and time clock when using the generalization "pass happy". We both know if the game is getting away from you and the time clock is ticking down there comes a point when throwing the ball becomes pretty much the only option you have left. That information doesn't show up on a stat sheet.

Every team has gadget plays. When they work people praise a HC's innovative approach and imagination. When they fail we see the kind of comments you just made about them. It actually has nothing to do with the plays at all. It has to do with whether the players execute those plays well or not.

When it comes to accountability I agree with you. At the same time I don't see unrealistic expectations as being the same thing.

You see it wasn't Stefanski who signed the watson deal. Sure he may have had some input into the decision but there are two layers above him that are the deciding factor and who make that final call. That cost the Browns big time. It put a stranglehold on having the ability to sign upper level FA's. It cost three first round draft picks and then some. As such I often see what we call accountability being placed in the wrong direction. Stefanksi isn't the reason this roster is so bereft of talent. With the OL and WR situation he is dealing with I think people believing he could get much more out of this O are far more guilty of unrealistic expectations than anything people can point to that Stefanski has done this season.

As I stated I don't think Stefanski is a great NFL HC. That's not my argument here. My argument is that it seems to me he gets a lot of blame for some things that are well beyond his control.
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired mgh888 12/09/25 07:01 PM
Trump had said he'd have no problem releasing the video ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cj69x5zge95t

What's happening in Venezuala is crazy - and the MAGA fanboys don't say a peep. It's all sorts of wrong for all sorts of reasons ... not the least of which is that if the US administration actually wanted to do something about the drugs - it would target columbia which is where the drugs are from. Second of which is that these strikes are not legal but then MAGA don't give a crap about legal, so that's really a moot point.

Listening to Bob Dylan today and heard a line that made me think of Trump and Trump supporter: 'Yes, ’n’ how many times can a man turn his head Pretending he just doesn’t see?'
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Re: Are we tanking? PitDAWG 12/09/25 06:26 PM
I'm a blast at parties! I just don't discuss politics at parties. naughtydevil

And let's face it, at my age I don't go to many parties anymore.
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Re: Are we tanking? BCbrownie 12/09/25 05:53 PM
[quote=PitDAWG]I bet you're just a blast at parties. rofl

Coming from you,that is hilarious.
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Re: Are we tanking? mgh888 12/09/25 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
What background is it you have in NFL coaching again? tsktsk

Come on now ... what experience do any of the posters have of being an NFL coach? GM may be the closest thing? ... using that as a way to dismiss any opinion you don't like is really futile. In essense if we comply with that thought process no-one posts any opinion of 'football matters' because none are NFL coaches.

You could have said the same thing who were critical of any of our head coaches or GMs from Hue Jackson to Phil Savage ... it would not have made those opinions invalid.

I think Stefanski is a below average head coach. It's not based on this season with a banged up low talent offense ... it's based on multiple years of being the HC of the Browns, 2 of which were good. But throughout he's shown the same tendancies of getting pass happy, calling cute plays, poor discipline, good opening drives followed by zero adjustment and being out coached time and again by the opposing team - and week in week out through the years we look inept and poorly managed, the weekly "I must do better" - "we most do better!" - and yet there is zero accountability. I would have fired the ST coach 3 games ago. . . . but after the last 2 weeks, a potted plant could replace the ST coach and we'd be better off.

Just like when Hue got his chance after 2 disasterous seasons, it **appears** we'll see Berry and KS leading/coaching the team and the draft and free agency again next year. No-one's opinion on this board is going to influence the decision. Debate the opinion, don't slam the poster.
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Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired PitDAWG 12/09/25 05:27 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Monday justified the U.S. military’s decision to fire a second missile in a heavily scrutinized attack on a boat in the Caribbean Sea by claiming that two suspected drug smugglers were trying to right the vessel after it had capsized in the initial strike.

Trump also backtracked on whether he was open to releasing the video footage of the second strike. Last week, Trump told reporters he saw “no problem” in releasing the footage, but on Monday he said he would leave the decision to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

The Republican administration is facing calls from Democratic lawmakers to release footage of the Sept. 2 operation in the Caribbean Sea, which killed nine people aboard the boat in an initial strike and then two more who managed to survive.

“They were trying to return the boat back to where it could float, and we didn’t want to see that because that boat was loaded up with drugs,” Trump said on Monday.

When asked by a reporter about his comments last week suggesting he was open to releasing footage of the second strike, Trump denied that was his position and bitterly attacked the reporter as “obnoxious” and “terrible.”

“Whatever Pete Hegseth wants to do is OK with me,” Trump said.

Trump, however, last Wednesday in an exchange with reporters about the strike footage said: “Whatever they have we’d certainly release.”

The Sept. 2 operation was the first in what has become a monthslong series of American strikes on vessels in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific Ocean that the administration says are targeting drug smugglers working on behalf of cartels, including some controlled by Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. At least 87 people have been killed in 22 known strikes.

Trump has broadly justified the campaign as necessary for his administration to stem the flow of fentanyl and other illegal drugs into the United States. He claims the U.S. is in armed conflict with narco-terrorists.

Hegseth said in a Fox News interview Saturday at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California that officials were reviewing the video, but he did not commit to releasing it. “Whatever we were to decide to release, we’d have to be very responsible” about it,” Hegseth said.

The Pentagon on Monday did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the status of Hegseth’s review or confirm Trump’s assertion that the suspects appeared to be trying to turn over the vessel before the second strike was fired.

On Capitol Hill, lawmakers are demanding that the Pentagon hand over “unedited video of strikes” against drug cartels to Congress, threatening to withhold a quarter of Hegseth’s travel budget if it doesn’t. The provision is included in the $900 billion defense bill the House is expected to vote on later this week.

Over the weekend, Sen. Tom Cotton, the Republican who leads the Senate Intelligence Committee, said he would not oppose public release of the footage.

But Cotton, among the top lawmakers on national security committees who were briefed by the Navy admiral commanding those strikes, is splitting with Democrats over whether military personnel acted lawfully in carrying out the second strike to kill the two survivors.

“It’s not gruesome. I didn’t find it distressing or disturbing,” he said, explaining why he does not have a problem with releasing all the footage. “It looks like any number of dozens of strikes we’ve seen on jeeps and pickup trucks in the Middle East over the years.”

Connecticut Rep. Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said the video “was profoundly shaking.” And Rep. Adam Smith of Washington, the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, said it “did not appear that these two survivors were in any position to continue the fight.” Both Himes and Smith, who spoke separately on Sunday talk shows, have viewed the video.

The classified sessions on Capitol Hill came after a report that Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley had ordered the follow-on attack to comply with Hegseth’s demands.

Bradley told lawmakers there was no “kill them all” order from Hegseth, but a video of the entire series of attacks left some lawmakers with serious questions. Legal experts have said killing survivors of a strike at sea could be a violation of the laws of military warfare.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-st...ribbean-3cf2ca9cbe4523978e935b99c2979caa

Reporter asks question as to why he changed his mind and said two different things only days apart from each other. Trump? Accused reporter of lying and calls the reporter names when in fact it was the reporter telling the truth and trump who is lying. AKA- Just another typical day at The White House. And there is no "armed conflict". rolleyes
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Re: Are we tanking? PitDAWG 12/09/25 04:41 PM
I bet you're just a blast at parties. rofl

What background is it you have in NFL coaching again? tsktsk
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