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Re: Coulda, woulda, should oobernoober 09/21/26 12:59 AM
Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Browns coulda dropped DW and eaten the loss. Keeping him now for the money considerations, and I see no way forward that includes him. We shoulda kept Schwartz; last game was a larger step backward than I anticipated. We woulda been ahead with a few more veterans, because MG's loss has more impact than we have seen yet.
Cute mental exercise to show common ground in Browns fans. But we have managed two things: First, we failed to address QB even in our own room, and we wasted time and reps doing so. Second, our basic fundamentals, especially tackling, blocking, pass rushing, and play mix are not going resemble how we see winning teams demonstrate. Cringe-worthy it is.


There is no way the Browns could have dropped Watson this season. The cap hit would have just destroyed their ability to field a team. They had to play out this team, and then designate him as a post June release so they can split the total left at that point between 2027 and 2028. If we had just dumped him this year, the dead cap was something like $128 million.

Definitely couldn't have dropped him, but I'm curious how much of the restructures to drag out the cap hit were necessary or if we were still trying to save the plan vs blow everything up.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today 10YrOvernightSuccess 09/21/26 12:21 AM
I really dislike the guy, like maybe more than anyone I know and it’s true I’m rooting against him but I’m happy we won. I think this team needed a morale boost after last week and this should do it. We have what looks like an excellent core of young players. Jeudy who?

It sounds like our OL is a pass blocking group but not so great on the run blocking front.

Go Browns!
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Re: The Dems......again Day of the Dawg 09/20/26 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by jfanent
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Yes, I would say she is right for the very first time.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Ballpeen 09/20/26 10:31 PM
I agree. Like him or not, he did nothing to warrant being pulled as starter.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today hitt 09/20/26 10:24 PM
I don't like his character in the past, he's married and teammates are not rooting against him==at least publicly. He won the game today. He threw between guys after shrugging off a tackler near the goal line-- HE EARNED the start in Cleveland, WOW, 1-1, not a losing record two games in......GO Browns!!!!
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Re: this got to me KNOXDAWG 09/20/26 09:40 PM
i guess you could re sign with the same losing team for more money and then bolt to another SB contender for even more money. that could ease a lot of pain
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool 2026 FATE 09/20/26 09:39 PM
Too late to edit ^

I forgot that survivor doesn't include the spread. If TB wins, three of us are still in.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Psydeffect 09/20/26 09:30 PM
I thought he has played well today, and I don't like the guy and hope he fails.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 bonefish 09/20/26 09:17 PM
Braves clinched the East.

Browns what?

Hang on Guardians
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool 2026 FATE 09/20/26 08:15 PM
Lol. All four participants in the Survivor Pool will lose today once the Browns game is over.
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Re: Quarterbacks dawg66 09/20/26 07:51 PM
Manning did the same thing in the OSU-Texas game, he didn't see wide open receivers numerous times because he was locked on to his first read plus he took a sack when he should have thrown the ball away. I'm going to try to watch some games of Moore (Oregon), Mensah (Miami), and Carr (Notre Dame) since we will obviously be taking a QB early in next year's draft and hopefully one of them looks a little more NFL ready.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 09/20/26 04:53 PM
Just about the time the Browns start getting spanked, the Guards will start play.

We host the As today at 1:40. Sox host the Twinkies at 2:20

Last home game before three in Boston. 😬
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Bard Dawg 09/20/26 04:45 PM
Lousy judgment. Doubt this is a "plan" kept hidden. Next man up if the shills will buy it. I don't see us putting enough on the field to succeed. FB has wanted this all along. And if he fails, we keep starting him, I suppose. Neither player will prove out. Flipper 2.0 and Beta Flipper.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today FATE 09/20/26 04:37 PM
Yep. If it were anyone but Ian, I'd probably hang the b.s. tag on it.

And let's be real, an educated guess would yield the same result.


Big day for Watson. No more excuses. You're facing the dude this franchise canned to roll out the red carpet for you. Put up or sit down and shut up.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 09/20/26 03:48 PM
WASHINGTON—Fox News Channel’s top executive said on Saturday that the company was “deeply relieved” to learn that Donald J. Trump’s ban on media from the White House would only apply to news outlets.

“When I heard about the ban, naturally I was concerned,” Lachlan Murdoch said. “So I called the president and asked, ‘Does this impact us?’ And he said, ‘No this is just about companies that do news. You’re safe.’”

CBS News chief Bari Weiss shared Murdoch’s satisfaction in knowing that her division would not be subject to the White House ban, stating, “My zero-tolerance policy on news at CBS News is already paying off.”

Andy Borowitz
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Pdawg 09/20/26 03:30 PM
I agree Fate. The only reason I posted it was that Ian is a reputable reporter.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today FATE 09/20/26 02:04 PM
That's a weird article since it doesn't even attempt to cite a source. Simply "the Browns are expected to" and "it is believed that".

At the end of the day, barring blowout and embarrassment, if Watson shows even minor improvement, I would bet he starts week 3.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today PitDAWG 09/20/26 01:56 PM
Who could have seen that coming?
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Re: Deshaun Watson today bonefish 09/20/26 01:49 PM
This could easily have been the plan all along.

Give SS two weeks to watch and learn more rather than let him open on the road with an offense that is just beginning to play together.

I do not believe the Browns ever planned on DW playing the whole season as the starter.

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Re: The Dems......again FATE 09/20/26 01:35 PM
Nothing will change for a while. Especially since they leave the punishment out of crime and punishment.

They've given away billions to criminals with little repercussion. These crooks have to assume there's no harm in trying; mostly, because there's in harm in trying. Walz will make excuses for you and call anyone that calls you out racist.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Pdawg 09/20/26 01:25 PM
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Re: The Dems......again MemphisBrownie 09/20/26 01:06 PM
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Re: this got to me FORTBROWNFAN 09/20/26 01:06 PM
I have always wondered about how losing affects a great player. I specifically felt bad for Joe as to me he was one of the all-time best. Kind of like the Ernie Banks of football. All the while I kept hearing NFL experts claim LT was one of the 3 most important positions on a team.

I always wondered if 3-4 very good players was more important than one great player. Maybe at QB that is true but I have always felt a very solid team could win big with a better than average QB.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 bonefish 09/20/26 11:12 AM
Jacked.

So glad to have baseball.
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Re: GM has passed bringbackbernie 09/20/26 05:37 AM
So sorry to hear this. He was one of the first posters I interacted with when I joined the original board back in 2003. Wish I could have met him, he seemed like a great guy.
RIP GM
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