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I get it. But it is a classical double standard… We can do stupid things to stoke our base, but when you do things to stoke your base we will cry foul and then try to indict you…. Because we can. Nanny Nanny boo boo. Or… Kiss my Grits.

The inmates are running the asylum.

The three-peat was not to be, but womens halfpipe was an amazing event.

Choi, South Korean that wins gold, falls hard on her first run. Medical crew assisted her out of the pipe. It looked like her night might be over. She gets out there for the 2nd run and falls(but is ok). Then on the 3rd run puts together a first place score. Chloe Kim has one more run to beat that and falls, settling for silver. Normally you'd see the athlete feel disappointed after something like that. Kim gets to the bottom, finds Choi and hugs her. Great show of sportsmanship.

Some Olympics stories from today.

Hockey is one heck of a drug.

Man arrested after 16 years on the run when he returns to Italy to watch the Olympics


Breezy Johnson gets engaged at Winter Olympics after boyfriend proposes at finish line


It wouldn't be the Olympics without some controversy.

IOC bans Ukrainian skeleton pilot Vladyslav Heraskevych over 'helmet of remembrance'

He is 22 yr old pro, who was injured and PATs did NOTHING to help him.....dumb. Fully grown, strong Defenders will thump good young men. Go Browns!!!

Bums might be an overstatement, but on defense we had unheralded guys like Avery, Harden, Ross, Webb, Huntington, (who also helped on offense and special teams) Diabate, and Hickman, (who was developed over time) all contributing to the defense. It wasn't a case of All Pros everywhere on defense. We had these lesser talents helping, and doing a good job, as well.

"Mandatory Duty to obey lawful orders and regulations,"

And that's all those 6 Americans, that served either in the Military (like you) or in the Intel Community said...

As for that meeting being Nothing, then why have it. I don't remember any former President having that kinda meeting... I don't remember a Sec def having one either

They may have, and I bet they did. But those other Presidents and SecDef's haven't Grandstanded.. Trump and Hegseth did and thats what frosted those 6 folks.



THEY DIDN'T LIE.. They Told the Truth.

Remember the faces of the Generals and Admirals. You didn't see them Cheering or Clapping.. They Looked STUNNED.. Trump or Hegseth NEVER said LEGAL orders.. They just said Orders.

We don't disagree on the "legal orders" part... I view the event Trump and Hegseth staged as the catalyst to the 6 people that spoke up..... I'm glad they did.

Pit, you calling me a horse ? lol

Thanks Lamp !

Or special teams were atrocious and badly coached regardless of the talent level... It was said early in the season and throughout the season. ST coach should have been fired during the season.

This clip is from during the season after the 49ers game. They talk about special teams at the 16 and 1/2 minute Mark.

https://www.youtube.com/live/xbpLwS3RqXo?si=MrLtO2gKiz-93WN2

Every player that enters the NFL wants to succeed. They all do everything possible to make the roster and perform at their best. Most ST players are marginal and often times only make the roster to play on ST's and very limited situations. Most all ST's players are late round draft picks or picks from former years that could never make the 53 man roster. The odds of these players to ever make the 53 man roster are very slim.

It really has little if anything to do with desire or will. It has to do with them being on the fringe of having enough talent to hold an NFL contract.

Not as plain and simple as you make it sound. I guess we'll find out. Unless of course the new guy is given better talent to work with. If so the product on the field should be better.

Same goes with the offense.

I guess you are going by a rule that doesn't exist. For future reference, no, you can't turn vinegar into wine.

How is committing genocide and stealing this nation from Native Americans an "accomplishment"? What makes you claim that doing so is what "they had to do"?

Genocide isn't an accomplishment and they didn't have to do it. Those sound like the very things every dictator in world history would say.

I'm against abortion. My daughter was born when her mother and I were both young. We had the choice to choose abortions. We thought it was wrong and did not make that choice.

I'm willing to openly admit that it's wrong even though I had no part in contributing to abortion.

You refuse to admit that what our forefathers did was wrong while you did not contribute to it.

And that's all you really have . "Boo Hoo Hoo" as your answer for all of those atrocities. It seems as though I know Jesus a lot better than you do.

You say I'm crying about what factually happened while I say you're playing the part of the coward and apologist by refusing to admit what actually happened.

When it comes to normal people facts usually win.

Bubba Ventrone sucked as Browns ST coach. Fact plain and simple.

Boo Hoo Hoo!!! I was not around when that happened. I did not commit any atrocities. This all happened long before you and me. We reap the benefits of what our forefathers accomplished. The Indians are defeated people, and our forefathers did what they had to do. You do not know the first thing about Jesus; you just pull him out when you feel it is convenient. Do you think crying about what might have happened 200+ years ago or the genocide we commit every day in the name of abortion. You are just being a hypocrite. Killing babies is fine but Indians killed 200+ years ago is unforgivable.

I agree Oober and I would think those backup-caliber players being at the bottom of the roster would be doing everything they possibly could to hold down a roster spot by trying to learn and perform at their best, yet they were making the same mistakes all season and weren't any better at seasons end than at the beginning. That to me is on the coach.

I get how people could form the opinion that was political grandstanding. But when the other side actually convenes a grand jury in an attempt to prosecute and imprison them for that? Trying to minimize the huge contrast between those two things by shrugging it off by saying such a threat to their freedom was nothing more than "The whole thing was political grandstanding by both sides" is a sad commentary to the direction our country has headed in.

These two things are NOT the same.

The key point in all of this squabbling is that the judge found that the U.C.M.J. does not and cannot apply to a person who no longer part of the military and is a private citizen.

On top of that they are representatives.

End of story.

Yes, the six were pissed about some of the things that Trump and Hegseth have said and are doing. Tons of example there involving military in the Caribbean. So it was a bit of political grandstanding. But no different the Hegseth being skewered on SNL. And no different the the grandstanding of Trump, Levitt, Noem, and Bondi.

There's only one problem. I never said that. Your claim is the new guy is better. The only thing I've said is you don't know that and neither does anyone else. A swing and a miss!


No, you said that it would be better since he left. That there was "nowhere to go but up ". You have laid all of the blame on him without admitting that the talent level played any part in it.

Do even remember what you have been posting?

https://www.pragencyone.co.uk/blog/elon-musk-misinformation-uk-free-speech-arrests/

Elon Musk’s “12,000 arrests for online comments” claim is a masterclass in modern misinformation
January 26, 2026 by Deekshima Khanna

Police recorded 12,183 arrests in 2023 under two communications offences, based on FOI-collated data. Those offences concern menacing, grossly offensive and malicious communications, not everyday political disagreement.

I gave you one example - a women posting on FB for an angry crowd protesting immigration (under false and misleading claims from the likes of Farage and Tommy Robinson - both racist to the core) to burn down a building housing immigrants. And they tried to

This is nonsense. The talent level between the defense and any other unit on this team are miles apart.


This is claiming the depth chart on every team has the same talent level. Once again nonsense.

War? Is that what you are calling invaders taking over a continent through the use of genocide? You must have missed it. The British weren't taking over the entire continent. It was our forefathers that invaded and stole the continent for Native Americans not the British. Where did you learn your history from?

And after we slaughtered them, herded them like cattle and forced them onto reservations, we stole their children from them, placed them in what we called Indian boarding schools......


US INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL HISTORY

The truth about the U.S. Indian boarding school policy has largely been written out of the history books. There were more than 526 government-funded, and often church-run, Indian Boarding schools across the U.S. in the 19th and 20th centuries. Indian children were forcibly abducted by government agents, sent to schools hundreds of miles away, and beaten, starved, or otherwise abused when they spoke their Native languages.

Intro to Boarding School History

Beginning with the Indian Civilization Act Fund of March 3, 1819 and the Peace Policy of 1869 the United States, in concert with and at the urging of several denominations of the Christian Church, adopted an Indian Boarding School Policy expressly intended to implement cultural genocide through the removal and reprogramming of American Indian and Alaska Native children to accomplish the systematic destruction of Native cultures and communities. The stated purpose of this policy was to “Kill the Indian, Save the Man.”

https://boardingschoolhealing.org/us-indian-boarding-school-history/

We must not follow the same Jesus. The one I follow commands me to admit sins that have been committed and repent. Not make excuses and denials for atrocities committed in his name.

Somehow our defense made capable players out of "bums", whereas our special teams failed even with players like Grant Delpit contributing. (and being named special teams player of the week a time or 2 last season)

Every team in the NFL has base level playters on special teams. The Browns just made less of these players than other team did.

I think you are confusing me with someone who wants socialism. As far as calling conquering genocide. That is not the case. It is called a war. The Europeans won that war against the Indians. Then our forefathers won the war vs those same Europeans.

Complaining about the roster makes a LOT more sense when you're talking about offense or defense... not so much special teams, IMO. ST units are made up almost entirely of backups... you may have 1-2 dedicated ST players, outside of kicker and punter. The rest are backup-caliber players that are contributing however they can to hang onto their roster spot. So the truth is that there isn't going to be very much difference in overall talent level throughout the league because they are all backup-caliber players.