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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Ballpeen 01/30/26 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Precisely.

It is a shield he hides behind.

Who Knows? None of us for sure.

I just chalk it up to one of life's unknown mysteries.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 mgh888 01/30/26 08:05 AM
"These are depth players from offensive and defensive units and as such you're not going to see significant differences in raw talent from team to team."

I liked the bullpen analogy - and kind of agree that's how I feel about the Browns special teams... surprise you when you don't expect it but for the most part failed to do their job.... I also agree with the rare exception, ST are made of of bit players. So coaching matters very much ... and you just have to look at the stats posted to see where the Browns were. I said during the season he ST coach should have been fired around week 10 or 11. Glad he's gone - the fact the Rams took him doesn't change a thing.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 GMdawg 01/30/26 07:59 AM
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 GMdawg 01/30/26 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
There's been a lot of complaining about KS on these forums the last few years. Well, he's gone and we have a new coach which should make some people happy and there's still complaints. I say let's give Monken some time to see how he runs things. Let's see how we look after training camp and at the start of the season. Was it the right move who knows but we should give him a chance. We may finally have a solid HC.


Well I gotta get this one out of my system.

Worst choice of all the people we interviewed IMO. Hate this choice for a few reasons.



That being said. Welcome (back) to Cleveland Monkman frown Please prove me wrong and make me eat crow.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 alne 01/30/26 04:36 AM
Source: https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/special-teams

Browns 2025
Punt Ret Avg Yds Allowed 12.7 yds (Rank: 26th)
Punt Ret TD Allowed 2 (Rank: T 30th)
Blocked Punts Allowed 2 (Rank: T 29th)
KO Ret Avg Yds Allowed 27.8 yds (Rank: 28th)
KO Ret TD Allowed 1 (Rank T 26th)

Punt Ret Avg Yds 7.2 Yds (Rank: 26th)
Punt Returns Fumbled 5 (Rank: 32nd)
KO Ret Avg Yds 23.7 (Rank: 31st)
KO Ret Longest 34 yds (Rank: 32nd)

Draw your own conclusions
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 jfanent 01/30/26 04:10 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...



Dude must have some awesome interview skills.
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Re: DOJ, FBI conclude Jeffrey Epstein had no "client list," committed suicide northlima dawg 01/30/26 03:48 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ims-29-friends-cut-secret-deals-DOJ.html

Ghislaine Maxwell has claimed that 29 friends of Jeffrey Epstein were shielded through 'secret settlements' by the Justice Department.

The disgraced socialite filed a habeas corpus petition on December 17 seeking to overturn her conviction, arguing that prosecutors cut deals with Epstein associates while prosecuting her as if no such agreements existed.

Maxwell alleges that 25 men reached undisclosed deals, while four alleged co-conspirators were known to investigators but never charged. She does not name the individuals.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 lampdogg 01/30/26 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
In general our special teams were not very good.

That’s putting it mildly. We could not cover a punt or kickoff if our lives depended on it.

So long bubba , won’t miss ya
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Milk Man 01/29/26 11:09 PM
Adam Rank is a boob and swings and misses a ton. Haslam's ineptness seems to trump all.

Rome did a pretty funny 15 minute bit on the whole debacle yesterday. Here's a clip and I still can't get over how they didn't read the room on Schwartz.



Audio link with the 15 minutes discussing the Monken hire. Begins at the 1:35 mark.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...ts-football/id1435335050?i=1000747087382
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 oobernoober 01/29/26 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by 1oldMutt
I’m not sure if we’re looking for an indictment of Bubbas coaching or the inability of Berry to fill out a solid bottom end of roster or both…

For me, special teams is like the bullpen in baseball. When you expect them to be good, their not. When you expect them to be bad, they surprise you. In other words, it can change in a blink of an eye for reasons unknown.


Maybe I just don't know baseball, but I always considered special teams coaching issues to be the easiest to spot. There are maybe a handful of teams that have a true ST "ace". Other than that, it's full of guys that are 1-2 bad plays from being cut and generally (at least in the case of kick/punt units) are filled with guys that don't see the field much except for those situations. These are depth players from offensive and defensive units and as such you're not going to see significant differences in raw talent from team to team.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 10:14 PM
Adam Rank criticizing this hire makes me feel loads better.

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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 Milk Man 01/29/26 09:43 PM
This is great. Love Jose.

Just a couple more months and it'll be time to get back to the corner of Carnegie and Ontario.
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Re: The. Dems. MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 09:22 PM


Over and over again these Democrats spew this nonsense thinking it works......it does not.
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Re: The. Dems. MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 09:17 PM
Oh, CNN......

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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC 1oldMutt 01/29/26 09:01 PM
Outspoken doesn’t seem like a trait this organization would have desired.
I kinda like a guy who has a fiery response as long as he’s thought it through a bit…
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Re: ICE Continued MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 08:59 PM
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Re: The. Dems. MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 08:51 PM
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 08:47 PM
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Mourgrym 01/29/26 08:42 PM
Jimmy aims for the stars and shoots himself in the foot. Didn't like him when he was here as OC definitely didn't want him as HC.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 Day of the Dawg 01/29/26 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
How was losing Ventrone good for us?

His special teams were the main culprit in two losses by the Browns last season. Bad special teams play factored into other losses but not the main culprit.

Game 1 vs Bengals - Lost by 1. Missed extra point and missed inside 40 yard field goal.

Jets game Browns outgained the Jets by 109 yards lost by 7 and gave up 1 punt return for TD and 1 kick return for TD.

There were numerous other gaffs that were inexcusable for an NFL team.
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Re: Minnesota Republican drops out of governor's race, citing GOP's handling of immigration enforcement PitDAWG 01/29/26 07:29 PM
Jan. 6 Defendant Tells ‘Patriots’ To Go to Minneapolis To Support ICE

https://www.newsweek.com/jan-6-defe...IiNpdw8pHPMijNM5KL7gw#Echobox=1769704317

An actual domestic terrorist.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 PitDAWG 01/29/26 07:24 PM
He was so bad one of the best teams in the NFL snagged him up.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 Homewood Dog 01/29/26 07:21 PM
In general our special teams were not very good.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 MemphisBrownie 01/29/26 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by 1oldMutt
I’m not sure if we’re looking for an indictment of Bubbas coaching or the inability of Berry to fill out a solid bottom end of roster or both…

For me, special teams is like the bullpen in baseball. When you expect them to be good, their not. When you expect them to be bad, they surprise you. In other words, it can change in a blink of an eye for reasons unknown.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 1oldMutt 01/29/26 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
How was losing Ventrone good for us?

I’m not sure if we’re looking for an indictment of Bubbas coaching or the inability of Berry to fill out a solid bottom end of roster or both…
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