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How Willis plays is unknown.

But yes they could draft a quarterback. Cardinals and Jets are no doubters IMO.

The college season especially with guys getting paid is unknown.

In 2025 it was "wait till next year's draft." It didn't work that way.

We are hoping things will fall our way.

By April of 27 this college season will have been digested thoroughly.

I remember the 2011 college season. As that college season played out. All I could think about was how can we get Andrew Luck?

We got Bernie in the supplemental draft with a stroke of luck and Bernie wanting to be a Brown.

Luck has a big role in finding the right quarterback from college.

That is freaking funny. The idea that someone from 1995 would be MAGA or on the extreme right .... LMAO... Hard.

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I don't think Willis is the answer in Miami just like you. I'm not sure they have much faith in him either. I can't see a world where if Willis doesn't show a lot of promise that they would not draft a QB if they land at the #1 or #2 spot in the draft. They have Willis on a three year 45 mil guaranteed deal. If you add a rookie contract to that amount it would still be somewhat reasonable. IMO it was set up that way. A short term bridge is all I think they foresaw Willis as from the beginning. With a "could, maybe, possibly" on the side.

You did lay all of that out quite well.

OK, all that said, I will be shocked if the Cardinals aren't holding the #1 overall pick in 2027. Nothing about what they have done this off season shows they have grown as a team.

While I like Jeremiyah Love, I don't think his offensive line is ready to make him the ORY.

Jacoby Brissett... yes Jacoby Brissett is a camp contract holdout, only because he see's himself as the teams starter, which happened by default. I really don't think they are any worse off telling him to sulk in the corner and just bite the bullet and start Carson Beck. After all, they need to see what Beck can do before making a decision on a QB in 2027 draft, right?

In the end, I will be surprised if they aren't already planning on a QB in the draft and Gardner Minshew becomes the offensive scapegoat.

Jets, Cardinals AND Dolphins and the Browns could be relegated to 4th choice... which realistically could still be their first choice. We need to see how this college season pans out. But I agree with your point!

I know the Dolphins signed Malik Willis, I just don't hold him to that high of a probability. I would put it on a similar level to Shedeur Sanders, if I'm being honest. He had everything lined up perfectly in Green Bay, all he had to do is not mess up while being a backup... Now he comes to an organization that has been in a tail spin for several years, moved on from their pro bowl receivers and doesn't have an identity yet with a new head coach and staff coming in with him. He will be asked to build the new offense in Miami, not just step in and not mess up...similar situation to Sanders.

If Miami is as bad as I think they are going to be, I think they end up with the #1 overall pick in 2027. That could be great or really bad for the Browns. If they think they can't give up on Willis after one season, the Browns might just have a trade partner. If they realize immediately in their mistake, it could move the Browns one more spot away from a viable starting QB.

When a deal like this goes down. Everyone wants to look for a winner and loser.

Can't be done because the teams involved are in two different spaces.

The Rams are in their window with Stafford. Simpson is a future unknown.

The Browns are not in any window. Myles was their best player and had been for nine years. Nine years with one playoff win.

Berry set his parameters and held them.

The Browns are still in the "if category." If Shedeur can be more? No way in hell are the Browns extending DW.

The 2027 is nothing more than fantasy right now. If the Jets and Cardinals are ahead in the draft order of 27. We get the third QB selected.

If that fantasy player actually becomes the future. It will take more than his rookie year.

We made a deal that had to be done and we got all we could get.

We have lots of miles to travel before we sleep.

Good read. Thanks, Memphis.

Your 'honest conversation' went from the war being about Iran having imminent nuclear weapon capacity (my point from the very beginning) to you trying to twist into Iran "being a threat" because it's not too hard to make a nuclear weapon... which is such a broad and undefined reason/excuse for a country to go to war, it's laughable.

Then on European allies - when they haven't supported all of the US actions in the Iran War - instead of acknowledging the very strong probability that is because they have been offered no evidence of Iran having imminent nuclear capability - you tried to opine that it was more likely it was down to weak leadership under political pressure at home. To support this opinion you then talked about France's troop deployment - which has ZERO to do with them allowing the US to use US airbases in France to launch or fuel planes that were proactively bombing Iran.

Sorry for using "ALL" instead of focusing specifically on the EU countries that denied the US the full function of the US airbases. While you might feel that's a gotcha - I disagree. But it was a mistake and I acknowledged that then and now.

You then tried to pivot and change the conversation to talk about my in depth knowledge of building and making nuclear weapons and conventional ordinance - which has nothing to do with how or why the EU countries made their decisions regarding the use of US air bases.

Apparently pivoting and changing the conversation is destroying people's logic ... which is funny because Pit gets accused of changing the topic constantly by you and others and it's always presented as a really bad thing to do.

Ummm - No. But you know. Birds of a feather. Maybe go find some Rando with an extreme view containing a verifiable lie and post it here to support your post.

Yes - for some reason I thought that he was a FA after this year. If his contract was up this year I think he has much less value. The caveat would be if we sign and trade him whereby the Browns eating his signing bonus helps the team out and makes the situation more appealing.

This is an absolute MUST READ for anyone that wants to get under the hood of how something this big happens. Besides the talk about the mechanics of the trade, there are some very interesting tidbits that tell a deeper story of how Berry operates.

I'm very proud of how the Browns, and particularly Berry, handled this whole, months-long negotiation and the manner in which they saw it through to the end.

Thanks for posting, Memphis. 👊

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But hey, I mean if the pool guy said it. The law of averages alone would dictate the pool guy is more honest than trump. But at least now we know it wasn't something "the dems made up". It was the words of trump himself.

Normal people didn't elect a man convicted on 34 felony counts who a jury found sexually assaulted a woman and paid a porn star hush money. That's just a figment of your imagination created to make you feel better about your own choices.

Just to clarify a couple of things..

First, his signing bonus is tied to the Browns, it does not go to the traded team. Only future roster bonuses move with the player. He is due two different roster bonuses of $2.5M and $600k that = $3.1M roster bonuses in 2027. That is the only bonus for him. All other bonus money has already been paid to him in cash, but follow the Browns in the cap system.

So, the new team would have the following:

Remaining 2026 salary

After week 6: Browns will have paid $7,605,000, the new team would then pay the remaining 11 game checks to a total of $9,295,000 for 2026 to help them win this season
Then 2027 they will owe the roster bonuses of $3,100,000 and the salary of $17,400,000, which is about the 20th highest in the league.

Anyone trading for Ward is doing so because they have a huge hole created and playoffs/Super Bowl aspirations on the line.

Ward's trade value right now is a second round pick for a contender, to save this season and have him for another full season.

Wait until after the season and he is probably still worth a 3rd round pick for the final season and opportunity to extend his contract.


**Anything lower than that offered, the Browns will keep him and get the last couple years of his prime, let him go to free agency and collect a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick.

Aw, using paid informants to gather information on right wing extremist groups has touched a nerve so badly they make it sound like a bad thing.

This man does not belong in public office no matter his party affiliation. I would vote for Susan Collins.

I don't know that that's helping, but I guess it's good that someone's enjoying the posts. I'm not really enjoying writing them.

And now we've got North Korea ramping up their ability to produce HEU, and China building massive complexes by their missile silos.

The doctrine of mutually assured destruction and the seeming need to come up with more effective ways to kill people and destroy things is so frustrating. The whole if I can't have it no one can mindset that so many people, particularly in power, seem to have is depressing.

I'm much more a proponent of live and let live, but terrorists with nukes is still to be avoided. Trump having his hands anywhere near the nuclear football is terrifying enough.

Myles is gone and we have draft ammo.

The problem is who is in front of us in the draft order.

The Cardinals, Jets, Browns, Dolphins are the teams most likely to draft a first round quarterback.

Although the Dolphins just signed Malik Willis they still could draft a guy.

The Cardinals and Jets are no doubt looking at this draft to find their guy.

If the Browns are behind them in the draft order they are not going to trade out of their pick.

The Browns could very likely be looking at door number three.

Looking back at the 2018 Baker draft. Baker and Darnold went before Allen and Lamar.

So he who goes first or second does not always mean they get the best.

The Browns have to hope that the guy they select is the right guy to lead the team.

Certainly there are no guarantees.

The best possible outcome for 2026 is either Shedeur proves to the Browns that they do not need to draft a quarterback.

Or, we get the first pick. That option means we suffer this year through another horrible season.

Then of course if we do draft the third QB selected. He is the best of the lot.

Bull_Dawg is destroying people's logic and arguments all week long......great reads!