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Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins PitDAWG 09/10/26 02:34 PM
President Donald Trump pledged Wednesday to send every American adult $5,000 if Republicans retain control of the House and Senate in the midterm elections, an extraordinary gambit to reverse his party’s sagging fortunes in November.

The dubious promise would most likely cost more than $1 trillion and require congressional approval, and would further exacerbate the country’s nearly $1.8 trillion annual budget deficit and concerns about inflation.

“If the Republicans win, you win with us and you get $5,000,” Trump said during the GOP’s midterm convention in Dallas. “It will be called the Trump Dividend.”

He likened the payments to a corporation’s distributions to shareholders, citing “our tremendous strength and success economically.”

Within an hour, Vice President JD Vance appeared to try to walk back Trump’s proposal — at least in part — by suggesting the dividend payments would not go to the wealthy. Vance suggested it could be paid for by U.S. tariff revenues, though the suggested payment dwarfs what the U.S. has taken in through the protectionist measures.

The White House did not respond to a message seeking details.

Trump’s $5,000 adult-citizen ‘dividend’ would cost taxpayers an estimated $1.23 trillion

Congress would need to approve or otherwise acquiesce to the payment. The sum would far exceed U.S. tariff revenues even before the Supreme Court tossed much of the president’s tariff program last year.

The national debt last month topped $40 trillion for the first time.

Trump has frequently lamented that, during the modern era, the president’s party almost always loses seats in Congress during the midterms, and he has looked for unorthodox ways to defy the trend, including this week’s convention.

“We’re going to change that,” Trump said. “There’s no reason for it.”

Marc Goldwein, the senior policy director at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a think tank in Washington, said Trump has no authority to send money to Americans without approval from Congress.

Goldwein added that dividends are something that companies pay when there’s a surplus, but the U.S. is running $2 trillion annual deficits and has $40 trillion in debt.

“The idea that we’ve had fiscal success is backwards and bordering on laughable,” he said. “We don’t have surpluses to give away.”

The move was reminiscent of billionaire Elon Musk’s efforts to buy votes in last year’s Wisconsin state Supreme Court race, where he handed out million-dollar checks to voters to try to boost a candidate who ultimately lost.

Trump has discussed the possibility before but has never tied it to his party’s electoral fortunes. Earlier this year, he proposed a $2,000 dividend and said he didn’t think he needed approval from Congress.

Last year, Trump gave members of the military a $1,776 check that he called a “warrior dividend.”

“I will get a bill ready so that we can get the Trump Dividend passed immediately after the November 3rd election,” Republican Sen. Bernie Moreno of Ohio wrote on X late Wednesday. “Because Republicans (and America) will win!”

A $5,000 check would give each American more money than they received in direct government payments from COVID-19 relief measures during Trump’s first term.

Trump’s proposal would be legal because the payment would go to everyone regardless of how they voted, or whether they voted at all, said New Mexico-based attorney John Day.

“This is a campaign promise,” Day said. “It’s not a payment to individuals to try to get them to vote in a particular way.”

Republicans are on defense as they look to defend their narrow House majority against strong headwinds. Trump is unpopular, and Americans overwhelmingly oppose the war in Iran. Even the Senate, which Republicans once were well-positioned to keep, is up for grabs.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-dividend-5k-5000-check-republicans-cc80644e3168acd31c892129fb849436



18 U.S. Code § 597 - Expenditures to influence voting

Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 721; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, § 601(a)(12), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3498.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

Is this only bribery and socialism if a Democrat does it?
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Re: Random NFL News hitt 09/10/26 02:20 PM
He was and still is part of the problem with ANY team he plays for- he has the mentality of a linebacker and body of smallish QB. He cost us games/season with his mental, I'll run over the guy to make A (single first down) play, he got hurt in Tampa too because of his mental attitude. I think Tampa was dumb paying him......mental, time will tell. Additionally, NFL- not for long- Sam D lasted five plays- sack could ruin his season-- you never know. Wonder if Watson last in a run option offense. Go Browns!!!!
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 09/10/26 02:17 PM
How Many of the Founding Fathers Went to ‘Seminary’?

A staple of “Christian America” history is the claim that “half,” or “twenty-nine” of the signers of the Declaration of Independence had “seminary” or “Bible college” degrees. This claim unfortunately shows up in Fourth of July sermons and even the occasional megachurch pastor’s tweet.

The claim is, on a literal basis, easy to refute. In fact, there were no seminaries in America, in a modern sense of a graduate school of theology, until 1807, when Andover-Newton Theological School was founded. (ANTS was originally a traditionalist Calvinist school founded in opposition to Harvard’s theological liberalism. In 2016, having long since become theologically liberal, the ANTS campus was closed, and the school was folded into Yale Divinity School.) Princeton Theological Seminary, arguably the most influential American seminary of the 19th century, was founded as a separate institution from Princeton’s undergraduate college in 1812.

If you wanted “graduate” theological education in the 1700s in America, you could stay on for extra study with someone like Princeton’s John Witherspoon, which is what James Madison did (he may have been considering the pastorate at the time). But Witherspoon is really the only signer who had a recognizable seminary education, since he did graduate study in theology at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland prior to coming to America.

The idea of Founders going to a “Bible college” is a more slippery concept, but it is also easy to refute on a simple factual basis. “Bible colleges” began to appear in the late 19th century, as part of the early fundamentalist-modernist controversy. Nyack College (originally called the Missionary Training Institute) was arguably the first such college, founded by A. B. Simpson in 1882 in New York City, before relocating to the New York village of Nyack in 1897. The most recognizable Bible college in America was probably Chicago’s Moody Bible Institute, founded in 1887.

So in the modern sense of the term, no Founding Father went to a Bible college, either. It is hard to know whether Christian America polemicists are intentionally misleading their readers about these claims, or whether they simply don’t understand or care that they’re being anachronistic. These types of overinflated assertions obscure the profound, if quieter, role that Christianity and Christian education did actually play among the Founders.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/evangelical-history/many-founding-fathers-went-seminary/
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots PitDAWG 09/10/26 02:06 PM
There is zero evidence that anyone tried to "steal an election". That's the entire point. If you're going to audit some states, audit them all or none at all. In case you missed it, I explained the answer to every question you just asked before. It's not my fault you have chosen to ignore it.
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Re: Expectations Pdawg 09/10/26 01:57 PM
I hope they get everything straightened out Deisle
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Re: OSU/ College Football FATE 09/10/26 01:24 PM
Now I understand.


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Re: Random NFL News Homewood Dog 09/10/26 01:14 PM
The Pats laid an egg last night. Can't wait to listen to the local sports radio!
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Re: GM has passed Homewood Dog 09/10/26 01:06 PM
RIP GM. My condolences to his family.
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Re: GM has passed mac 09/10/26 12:53 PM
GM fought a courageous fight for a long time and I will miss him.

Condolences to the family...mac
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? mgh888 09/10/26 11:26 AM
I didn't want to post anything today or anytime soon because of the news of GM - I still feel like I've been punched in the gut.

With that said - Trump's absolutely absurd claim of bribing Americans with $5K to vote for him made me come and post this article:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62kzr1jg0jo

I doubt it's legal, I doubt it is possible - even if it were I doubt Trump would come through .... and for a country $40 Trillion in debt - it would make perfect sense for the Liar and Grifter in Chief to propose to add another 2.5% - $1.3 Trillion.

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In regard to the separation of Church and State - and separation of State and Church. I just wanted to post this:

the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams, famously stated that:

“the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”


OK. I'm out. I'll let the Psuedo Christian and Genocide Supporter have at it and write whatever lies and B.S he wants.
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Re: GM has passed bbrowns32 09/10/26 03:43 AM
He will be sorely missed. RIP GM....
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Re: Photography thread Squires 09/10/26 12:17 AM
In August, had an historical event in Colorado Springs. The National museum of World War 2 Aviation hosted 3 SB2C Helldivers. The only 3 in the world that fly. They did a sunrise flight along with a B-25, then a second flight around noon. Seeing 4 WW2 planes startup, taxi and sit in line waiting for takeoff was quite a sight.

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Re: GM has passed ~Con~Artist~ 09/09/26 11:51 PM
Oh man, it was always one of those things that you know might be coming...and yet he kept defying the odds. At least he is now in comfort, may he RIP. He will most certainly be missed.
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Re: GM has passed waterdawg 09/09/26 11:50 PM
Huge loss for all of us .. RIP
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Re: OSU/ College Football Ballpeen 09/09/26 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by mac
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Watching yesterday's games. Tulane and James Madison had no business in the college football playoffs. I would have much rather watched Notre Dame at Ole Miss and Texas at Oregon. The non power conference teams should not be in playoffs unless they have a team ranked in top 12 like Boise State last year.


The selection committee exposed themselves by selecting teams that have no business playing in the playoffs.

How many SEC teams were selected to play in the 2025 playoffs..?

The members of the selection committee need to be replaced.

What SEC teams shouldn't have been included? What teams should have replaced them?
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Re: GM has passed PrplPplEater 09/09/26 11:18 PM
Words fail me.

RIP, Brian. You're missed.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Day of the Dawg 09/09/26 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Show me that? The founding fathers gave everyone the freedom of religion and purposefully refused to name a national religion or claim that anything they wrote in the constitution was based on the bible or any single religion. Making unfounded claims to the contrary in no way prove the point you are trying to make.

Over half the men who wrote the Constitution were ordained ministers. The freedom of religion was more about England Church of England controlled by the government. Freedom of religion was always meant to keep the government out of the church.

While the founding fathers never intended the laws of the land to steer people to Christ or require people to accept Christ, they admitted in many articles they founded the Countries laws from the Bible. They set up the government from a writing in the book of Isiaih 33:22 with the separations of power. The laws of the land were taken from the laws of Moses in the book of Deuteronomy.

https://nccs.net/blogs/articles/par...BF5IZqEd43fedD2_9DJ9GokfMNO-Hj7ysCt-zX8F

https://purposedrivenlawyers.com/the-constitution-and-the-bible/

https://americanheritage.org/the-in...icas-founding-era-the-most-cited-source/
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots Ballpeen 09/09/26 10:46 PM
DOJ's have been serving Presidents for decades. Heck, JFK had his brother in the position...and this goes on long before JFK.

You find this a shocking or new development?
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Re: More Music bonefish 09/09/26 10:18 PM
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Re: Expectations Bull_Dawg 09/09/26 10:06 PM
It seems your medically induced alter ego is a big Shedeur fan.

Hope you and your doc can get the meds straightened out. thumbsup
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Re: GM has passed YTownBrownsFan 09/09/26 10:05 PM
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."

Time to update this one. wink
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Re: Expectations bonefish 09/09/26 10:05 PM
Sure.

No problem. I thought it strange because I don't recall ever having any issue with you.

Good.

Thanks. No hard feelings. I have a brother who has had something like that happen.

Best of luck. Hope your feeling better. Normal is good thing.
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Re: Expectations DeisleDawg 09/09/26 09:52 PM
Bone.. I'm so sorry for that post. I'm going through some medical stuff and my medicine was changed.

I have no memory of even writing that. I missed half a day of work today because I was very confused about things.

I enjoy your posts a lot and I have no idea what happened.

I apologize 1000 x's.
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Re: GM has passed BADdog 09/09/26 09:46 PM
Never met him , just know him from his post. Always nice and humorous. He will be missed. RIP GM.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Bull_Dawg 09/09/26 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I think injecting any single religions teachings in our laws, schools or government is a direct affront to freedom of religion for every other religion. I think what some see as "God's will" influencing their decisions can and not in accordance with the constitution.

They were asking him about the end times. He plainly stated that he is doing "God's will" and if that helps lead to end times so be it. Let me ask you, what other job or duties does J.D. Vance hold that his decisions may help advance or help lead to end times other than his job as vice president? Are you trying to claim that his personal decisions in his own private life or the books he writes has any real impact on end times?

This isn't as complicated as you are pretending to make it out to be.

Jesus is quoted as saying "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" in multiple books (Matthew, Mark, and Luke. I think?) That is commonly interpreted as it is one's Christian duty to follow the laws of the land. So if Jesus said it, it should effectively be God's will. So, God's will is to follow the law, which coincides with upholding the constitution.

Where's the problem?

You keep acting like the two things are mutually exclusive. They're not.
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