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I imagine that if I had flipped the script with any member of my family in such a manner, that the same exact thing would happen.

Scott Jennings and Van Jones had a back and forth on the topic last night. Scott Jennings brought up the point that he thought their lives had been ruined enough.

Van countered that by saying there were still red lines and that actions should have consequences. He brought up how he was the son of a police officer and this involved police officers who were attacked, experienced violence, and one of whom died as a result. Scott did agree with him that he did not condone that and stayed silent in the notion that people who initiate an attack on law enforcement should not be pardoned.

I’d like to hear from the other side what their thoughts are. So far, FATE is the only one who seems to engage substantively on these matters, though, which I appreciate.

It’s like severance. They’ll go right back to it with no real perspective. I had a convo with a MAGA relative asking how he would feel pardoning all of them if they were Antifa or blue haired progressives doing THE EXACT same thing and he just avoided and dodged and then ultimately lied and said he’d be good pardoning them all. I Locked eyes with him and we both knew he was lying for the convenience of his argument but I’m pretty sure he successfully banished the thought the second the convo ended. The sheer number of people who live like the show severance, just utterly unable and unwilling to try to flex their perspective always amazes and disappoints me.

I think the point stands. From what I can tell, nobody on the J6 Committee even asked for a pardon. None of them have been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt for anything, unlike guys like Torrio, for instance.

To be honest with you, I don’t think Biden should have issued pardons for them. I think the whole pardoning process has been abused left and right and up and down from its initial intent.

I actually think Biden issuing the pardons did Trump a favor. If DOJ went after everyone on the committee, I think it would have looked like quite the politically motivated ish show to most objective voters, at least.

just watching the clip:



i mean.... he did it twice.

great run for the Bucks - really a fun team to watch for me. That's a big time playoff month

Clowns and sheep.



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You play to be Champions.

Mission accomplished.

I feel any conservative who utters the phrase 'law and order' in the future should be mocked relentlessly.

I was going to ask when Day was getting fired...lol

Maybe we should resurrect that thread. Might make for some funny reading.

Naa..that would be cruel.

Congrats to the Buckeyes...they steamrolled to the championship!

Highlights of a prospect are just that.

You see what he can do really well. I know for a fact that scouts want to see that.

What does he look like at his very best? Then you can watch tape and see where he has struggled.

When you watch Milroe at his best. He looks better than the other guy's best. He has a powerful arm with a quick release. He can throw the deep ball well. He can throw it to any place on the field.

When he decides to run. He jumps off the screen. He is like Michael Vick and Lamar except better as a pure runner.

Vick and Lamar are scramblers with speed. Milroe is different, He is a running back with speed. He runs like a tailback.

He has the instincts, vision, speed and power.

If he can refine his play at playing the quarterback position. He will be unstoppable. His ceiling is sky high.

There are many nuances to playing quarterback. The ability to slow the game down and make the right decision is what makes elite play.

Milroe is not at that point - yet. To get to that stage he needs development and experience.

If all the quarterbacks in this draft were to reach their highest potential. Milroe would stand alone at the top.

Technically, she broke the law. Obviously the laws have changed for the good since the 1870's. She was pardoned by President Trump what, maybe 140 years later?

jc

i dunno what to think about the salute, especially since he did it twice. I will ask the board this: how many times is Elon gonna get away with controversy due to "autism" or him being "awkward?" Some of you guys are defending Elon, like a naive parent does with their child who keeps misbehaving in school.

then here's the other aspect: There's plenty of right wingers who did view this as the Nazi salute, and are happy he did it:

1. Thomas Sewell, a self-described neo nazi (i didnt call him that, he calls himself that), certainly thinks it was intentional.

2. The Proud boys chapter in Ohio (lol, i know) on telegram also posted in response "Hail Trump"

3. White Lives Matter posted in response "The white flame will rise again"

and those are just a few examples. Combine this with Elon supporting far right extremist parties in Europe, such as the AFD in Germany, and other issues he's been part of, I'm left with this problem i would like Trump and Elon supporters to solve for me:

The left, liberals, media, moderates, some conservatives, and most of the extreme right wing thinks he did the salute. Does any MAGA on this board see the issue that they're really the ONLY ones defending this dude's actions? everyone is wrong, but you're the only ones who are right? you're the only ones who know the truth?

we are certainly gonna have any more massive problems in this country, dealing specifically with intention and perception.

Why? And holy moly I read that article. “The avoidable murder of Ashli Babbitt…”

Jeez dude…

I love his quote in this headline:

President Trump Will Pardon 1,500 Jan 6 Political Prisoners and Commute Sentences of 6 Tonight—Tells Reporter Who Questioned His Actions “Go stand over there with your friends”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/breaking-president-trump-will-pardon-1500-jan-6/

It was always going to happen. Trump is Only about loyalty and fealty Trump.

If anyone thinks Trump is going to show any restraint or respect norms etc. you're going to be sadly disappointed. He's a despicable human being and i expect him to act just like a spoiled King through out his 2nd reign

Man, every J6 defendant commuted/pardoned/dismissed. Including Tarrio.

How we feeling about that?

All good. Nah he’s just super, super weird. I can’t stand the guy for a litany of reasons, but this is just him being a whack job.

Might I say, though, that your perception of my faux outrage was…. Faux outrage?

How the turn tables….

(That was a JOKE!)

My bad, I was skimming with my faux outrage antenna up. It's just jaw-dropping that the media would latch onto this. Like, what, he's a neo-nazi and was waiting for this to show his true colors?? C'mon man.

I got to agree with you Fate. The man was speaking with his hand over his heart and made a gesture to the crowd. The ADL came out and defended him. The left wing media hasn’t learned anything from this past election.

I’m not referring to 05. Just the part about the American people

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Oh relax, it was a smiley face. I was making fun of it. There’s no outrage. Did you even read my next post?

Raise your hand if you read any of the trash posted by this bot.

As if it matters. Americans are done with this. Half way thru day one and we're diving in on media hoaxing? GTHOH. You're better than this. And you're smarter than this, you should avoid this like the plague, it's a disservice to your party and our collective intellect. Give it a rest.