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Peen,
I understand your point. Your point is solid. I agree if Mendoza is significantly better than Moore...and goes crazy this playoff then I don't disgree with you at all. What I will say if both are about the same in evaluating (like i said early opinion) 1a...1b stuff. Mendoza is 22 years old, born Oct 1 2003. Dante Moore 20 years old, born May 4th 2005. My opinion...they will choose Dante being he has similar attributes and can possibly have a higher ceiling being a year and half younger.

That is an extra year and half to develop their passer. If 2027 is their target date, he can sit an extra year behind Sanders and learn/develop.

For an organization who hasn’t won anything in decades I think we should be careful when we criticize or downplay organizations who’re much more successful than us.
We’re not in a position to lecture anyone about culture and winning mentality.

Our record the last two seasons are 26 losses and counting with Stefanski and Berry.
Whenever somebody defend a HC and a GM with that record, criticize other successful teams and act like they have all the answers then the only logical conclusion is that they have absolutely now idea what they talking about.

Without Mahomes there is no culture.

Without Mahomes Andy doesn't win Super Bowls.

Without wins there is no winning culture.

Why can you not understand the facts?

The usual scrubs talking like they know what they are talking about.


Carry on.....I'm out of here, and not for reason some will claim.

Depends if you hit the lung... So yeah, it can. I've had it done. For me, it didn't work.... But yeah, done wrong, it can be dangerous. But don't take my word for it.. Google it.

"It seems you are trying to indicate that they all gave the DOJ an "impossible task". And somehow that's partly the fault of democrats?


Woooo there big fella, I'm not saying that at all...you need to get your timeline meter fixed. That vote you refer too took place around the 19th of Nov. I'm talking about the fact they've had these documents for YEARS.., So yeah, to some extent, that does fall on Democrat and Republicans alike....

Yeah, it's too bad that they would have not only all of their other picks and FA's this year to build a team around a QB, but at least a couple of more seasons without the watson salary cap strangle hold on them to do so. If the last draft is any indication of their improved ability to draft players it isn't unlikely they could do that.

But your blind negativity gets in the way of admitting that.

But then again Peen you may have a point. There are those over one million documents related to Epstein they claimed to have magically found they idea even existed AFTER the deadline. Like that's a real thing.

DOJ says it has found over a million additional documents potentially related to Epstein

The Justice Department on Wednesday said it has uncovered over a million more documents potentially related to the Jeffrey Epstein case and may need “a few more weeks” to review and release them to the public.

The department made the revelation in a post on X, saying the the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York and the FBI had informed the department of the new documents.

“The DOJ has received these documents from SDNY and the FBI to review them for release, in compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act, existing statutes, and judicial orders,” the post said.

“We have lawyers working around the clock to review and make the legally required redactions to protect victims, and we will release the documents as soon as possible. Due to the mass volume of material, this process may take a few more weeks. The Department will continue to fully comply with federal law and President Trump’s direction to release the files,” the post continued.

The announcement on Wednesday comes after a week of intermittent releases as required by a new transparency law that Congress passed last month. The department already had been facing criticism for not releasing everything as required on December 19, though officials insisted they needed time to redact information to protect victims and alleviate other possible legal concerns.

Even before the revelation Wednesday of more possible documents, the Justice Department had been scrambling to get out everything in its possession. CNN reported Tuesday that Justice Department leadership had asked for volunteers in a prosecutor’s office in South Florida to help with redactions.

The Justice Department first posted a massive trove of documents required to be released under the new law on the Friday deadline. That was followed up with another drop early Saturday, and another major release on Tuesday, which contained several notable references to President Donald Trump.

A bipartisan array of lawmakers and a growing number of survivors of Epstein’s abuse have criticized the Trump administration’s rollout of the documents. Some have raised questions about the heavy-handed and seemingly haphazard redactions that shielded Epstein’s associates from scrutiny. Others have expressed anger over under-redacted materials that exposed victims’ information.

After the department’s revelation Wednesday, Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna – who, alongside GOP Rep. Thomas Massie, had pushed for the bipartisan bill that compelled the Justice Department to make public the Epstein files – said that the two of them would “continue to keep the pressure on.”

“After we said we are bringing contempt, the DOJ is now finding millions more documents to release,” the California Democrat posted on X, adding, “The Epstein class must go.”

Massie, meanwhile, re-posted a video of Attorney General Pam Bondi telling reporters that when she appeared to claim in February an Epstein client list was sitting on her desk, she was actually just referring to an Epstein file.

“So what you’re saying is the files were never on @AGPamBondi’s desk like she claimed in this video?” Massie wrote.

Rep. Robert Garcia, the highest ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, said in a statement, “It’s outrageous that Trump’s DOJ has illegally withheld over 1 million documents from the public,” adding that his committee wanted to hear from whistleblowers or “anyone at the DOJ who can assist us in bringing justice for the survivors.”

Frustration has also been mounting inside the White House about the handling of the files, with the drip-drip-drip nature of the releases prolonging a story Trump has long been loathe to discuss and the administration’s own message shifting dramatically in recent days.

The newly released documents revealed that federal prosecutors collected evidence in 2020 that Trump flew on Epstein’s private plane multiple times in the 1990s, and that the Justice Department subpoenaed Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club before the trial of Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell in 2021.

Also in the documents was a letter purportedly signed by “J. Epstein” to convicted sex offender Larry Nasser, containing what appeared to be a lewd reference to Trump. But the Justice Department said Tuesday that the letter was fake in-part because it didn’t appear to match Epstein’s handwriting. On Wednesday, the department testily responded on X to a journalist who questioned why officials would include a dubious document in its release.

“Because the law requires us to release all documents related to Jeffrey Epstein in our possession so that’s what we are doing, you dope. Are you suggesting we break the law?” the department’s official X account said.

Trump has never been accused by any law enforcement agency of involvement in any of Epstein’s crimes. He denies wrongdoing.

Other documents released last week contained never-before-seen pictures of former President Bill Clinton with Epstein, swimming in a pool with Maxwell, and sitting in a hot tub with a woman whose face was redacted.

Clinton also has never been accused by authorities of any involvement in Epstein’s crimes. In response to the disclosures, Clinton spokesman Angel Ureña said: “There are two types of people here. The first group knew nothing and cut Epstein off before his crimes came to light. The second group continued relationships with him after. We’re in the first.”

That more documents have come from the US Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York is not itself surprising. That is the office that investigated and charged Epstein in 2019 and followed that up with a successful sex-trafficking prosecution against Maxwell in 2021.

Clinton also has never been accused by authorities of any involvement in Epstein’s crimes. In response to the disclosures, Clinton spokesman Angel Ureña said: “There are two types of people here. The first group knew nothing and cut Epstein off before his crimes came to light. The second group continued relationships with him after. We’re in the first.”

That more documents have come from the US Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York is not itself surprising. That is the office that investigated and charged Epstein in 2019 and followed that up with a successful sex-trafficking prosecution against Maxwell in 2021.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/24/politics/epstein-documents-doj-million

I would believe a kid who told me his dog ate his homework before I would believe this BS.

...Everybody at this level of the sport talks about culture. How did KC's "great culture" carry them this season? The Eagles "culture" has been questioned all season. Winning fixes a lot. Losing creates problems. Culture doesn't grant immunity to age and injuries.

...all the teams that don't win the Superbowl could be the one right player away. Sadly, it has to be a particularly great player, and that often isn't available.

Joel Bitonio is on his last leg. Great guy and one of the few cultural builders but unfortunately he will not be with us after this or next season.
So we talk about 1 QB, 4 OL, at least 2 WR, 1 TE, probably a CB, probably a safety and some linesmen. Minimum 7, probably much more. Elite or close to elite.

It’s funny you talk about me and my culture.
Pat Mahomes and his friends in Kansas often talk about the same thing, so did Brad and so did the Eagles players after their win.

Winners talks about culture and mentality.
Losers are often only ONE player away…..

Just a comment...I agree with most of what you said in your last 2 posts.

In the latter you listed Moore as being 6 months younger. That doesn't make any difference. Too much is talked about when it come to age, especially at QB. Unless you are talking about drafting a 27 year old QB, who cares? Even then, worry about his age after he has played here 8-10 years.

To me age only matters with backs, receivers and corners. Those are the speed positions. I get wanting younger there. People start to slow down after 29 or so. After that, speed isn't as big of a concern for other positions. For that matter, it is useless to look 6-7 years down the road. That is a standard 4 year deal and maybe a 2 year extension.

Bla bla bla.

Talk about blind. You and culture.

You have your take. Every post is more of the same.

Talk to Joel Bitonio.

Agreed.

A couple of random posts.

If that's true about Moore, then I agree with your opinion on what we should do. We will just repeat what we did for 2026 in 2027. Go with Shedeur, draft our weak positions and if Shedeur doesn't work out, we have the means to move up in the draft in '27 if we have to. If Shedeur works out it's all gravy for us. AB needs to have another good draft and FA period. If things work in our favor we could compete for the playoffs and the division next season.

Todd McShay has come out today and stated that Moore is going back to Oregon.

Everybody around him are in lockstep according to McShay.

That certainly changes the draft picture.

That could make this a one first round QB draft and the Raiders have the pole position.

If it ends that way. IMO the Browns will trade down. Get a first for 2027 and more and then invest around Shedeur.

You probably understand this but your blind support for the Browns cloud your judgement.

The Browns could draft the next Pat Mahomes and still struggle to win the division, not to mention go to the SB. Having the best quarterback isn’t enough but you probably understand this.

Without Andy Reid and his coaches there would be no SB winning team in Kansas.
Without playmakers like Tyreek Hill and Travis, loyal water carriers, culture builders and role players the best qb in the NFL isn’t enough.

To draft and sign all this players, head coach and coaches you need a very good general manager and an understanding and wise owner.

On top of all this any ambitious organization needs a couple of players, coaches and employees with extreme winning mentality. Those who’re running thru a wall of bricks without hesitation.

That’s what it takes to win multiple Super Bowls.

The Browns don’t have any of that except Myles Garrett.
We probably need elite on 6-7 positions, probably more.

We definitely don’t have an elite head coach, not even close. If we’re generous he’s in the bottom third, if we’re realistic probably closer to the bottom five. Results don’t lie.

Our general manager has so far not shown enough competence to build by his own a division winning roster. His best season was his first, a roster by large build by Dorsey.

Who’s the culture builders on Berea?
Who’s those with winning mentality?

The owner? An asset or a liability?

You’re right that the best way to build a successful team is to start with the quarterback but that only applies if you have the infrastructure working. If you have the right head coach, a competent general manager and an understanding owner.

The Cleveland Browns have nothing of all the above. Past results, history the last 25 years and reputation backs me up on this. 100%. Start changing the GM, change the HC we’re closer, then your idea is 100% correct.

Do that and I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Don't be silly. You're talking about aging Republicans here. They have no idea what any of that is. In their world technology doesn't exist and this is still impossible. Plus, I mean is anyone foolish enough to believe the victims names are all they are redacting?

I am sure a programmer could get the list of all victims, run a script on all million plus documents and have it finished within hours. Anything else is obstruction.

No problem I just missed it. That's on me.

He's on there (Carson), I should've said Schwesinger so it stood out more. My apologies

Regarding the OL.

I can see us making play for one of the top lineman in FA. Two is possible, though I think they will be cautious spending and extra 15-20 million on a second player. If they have a spot where a Jack Conklin becomes available then it's worth it to me (i.e. young, solid player who can have a chance with a second contract with the team).

The Wypler situation will be interesting as do they upgrade? Give him a chance to start next year? I think Jenkins will be back. I'm questioning Teller coming back. I thought it was pretty much a given, however with him sitting and sharing snaps it has given me second thoughts. Maybe they are giving Jenkins snaps seeing if he's worth keeping with the thought of him moving over to Bitonio's spot if he retires? I have no clue.

I was surprised to see you didn't have Schwesinger on your LB'er list. An oversight perhaps?

I know exactly what should and shouldn’t be redacted.

Names of the victims should be redacted
Everything else shouldn’t

Yea Home, I was thinking about JOK when I was typing it. Good point about Emerson, though I am leary about his first year coming back from that injury.

Generally speaking, I really dislike the this roster is void of talent talk. It isn't short of talent. The defense is gifted and needs basically needs depth pieces.

The offense is young. We have a ridiculous amount of rookies starting or playing big roles. Veterans tend to know all the little things about their position or are polished at running routes or blocking. Our RBs, Fannin, Bond, Gage, and even our second year WRs are still learning all these things while doing OJT (on the job training).

We need upgrades at QB, at least one main WR, and OL.