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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/25/26 08:22 AM
I'll ask again, maybe someone has the stones to put together a thoughtful answer - what does success look like?

And if you can't answer that question - given where we are today (March 25th) would you want US boots on the ground? And a long and protracted war that tires to do more than sink the navy and bomb military sites?

Lastly - if gas prices remain high and close to $4 per gallon - or even over $4 per gallon - how long and how much inflation and damage to the economy are you willing to endure, and to what purpose?
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Re: Trump urges Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting BADdog 03/25/26 03:44 AM
Maybe the republican would have won If he didn't mail on his ballot
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Re: Trump urges Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting northlima dawg 03/25/26 02:28 AM
Maybe another reason tonight-
In the Fl district that Mar a lago is in, a democrat won the special election tonight.
Trump won this district by 11 and the republican in this district won by 19% in 2024.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 lampdogg 03/25/26 01:11 AM
By the way, TE Blake Whiteheart re-signed with us the other day.
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Re: Player News superbowldogg 03/24/26 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
I really don't think Tate is going to be a #1 in the NFL. To me, he looks like a great #2 that will catch the ball.

If this was other years, he would probably be drafted late in the first or second round.


He is a great #2 to Jeremiah Smith, but JS is going to enter the league like Ja'Marr Chase did. He is generational, which is why Tate might "look" a little less when seeing them on the field together. However, Carnell Tate is equal or better than many of the receivers that have recently come into the draft. He is a better prospect than Jaxon Smith-Njigba, who was drafted #20 overall because he was in a loaded draft class. He was the first of four receivers taken in his draft in the first round.

Curious question, what in his game leads you to being a #2 receiver?

If this were other years, he would be exactly where he is today. He is a top WR candidate, which barring prospects like Jeremiah Smith or Ja'Marr Chase, he would still be in the talk as the best receiver in his class coming out.

First WR off the board the last ten years:
2025 Tet McMillan #8, Tate is rated higher
2024 Marvin Harrison Jr. drafted #4 overall, Tate would have been #3 receiver in 2024, Nabers was 2nd receiver drafted at #6 overall and Tate is rated just below him, both predicted year 1 starter.
2023 Jaxon Smith-Njigba #20, Tate is rated higher
2022 Drake London #8, Tate is rated higher
2021 Ja'Marr Chase#5, pretty obvious, Jaylen Waddle #6 was top ten pick #2 receiver, Tate is on par with Waddle
2020 Henry Ruggs #12 and Jerry Jeudy #15 were the first two WRs, Tate is rated much higher
2019 Bad draft class, but Tate would unquestionably be the top receiver in this draft, best of the class was Marquise Browns #25 overall
2018 Another bad draft, DJ Moore #24 was the first WR taken, but was rated much lower than Tate
2017 Corey Davis drafted #5 overall, Tate is rated higher
2016 Corey Coleman #15 was the first WR drafted, Tate is rated higher

All of these receivers were taken mid first or higher. All of those of those rated higher than him went top ten, many he is rated higher than still went top ten.

In this case, which I know it happens a lot, we don't have rose colored glasses on a Buckeye. He deserves the accolades he is getting. Having Smith and Tate on the field at the same time was a blessing for OSU, but it did take away individual stats. Tate is one of the best WR prospects of the last ten years.


To me he is a guy that will do great in the X vs the Y and I think he will do well working the middle of the field while making contested catches. I don't think he will thrive on the edge where he needs toe tap/ sideline catches often. I also feel like he won't do that great if he is moved around often.

in 2025 he would have been drafted after Emeka Egbuka | Travis Hunter Tetairoa McMillan Emeka Egbuka Matthew Golden Jayden Higgins Luther Burden Tre Harris Jack Bech
In 2024 he would have been drafted after Brian Thomas and before Xavier Worthy | Marvin Harrison Malik Nabers Rome Odunze Brian Thomas Xavier Worthy Ricky Pearsall Xavier Legette Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Ja'Lynn Polk Adonai Mitchell
2023 right after Jordan Addison | Jaxon Smith-Njigba Quentin Johnston Zay Flowers Jordan Addison Jonathan Mingo Jayden Reed Rashee Rice Marvin Mims
2022 probably drafted right after Jameson Williams | Drake London Garrett Wilson Chris Olave Jameson Williams Jahan Dotson Treylon Burks Christian Watson Wan'Dale Robinson
2021 right after DeVonta Smith and before Kadarius Toney | Ja'Marr Chase Jaylen Waddle DeVonta Smith Kadarius Toney Rashod Bateman
2020 after Tee Higgins maybe after Michael Pittman. | Henry Ruggs Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb Jalen Reagor Justin Jefferson Brandon Aiyuk Tee Higgins Michael Pittman Laviska Shenault
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 03/24/26 08:23 PM
Trump Says Pete Hegseth Is Having 'Fun' In Iran War, Doesn't 'Want It To Be Settled'

President Donald Trump said Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth doesn't want war with Iran to end. He's having too much fun, apparently.

In a White House meeting with reporters on Tuesday, Trump claimed peace talks are ongoing with Iran, even as airstrikes continue and thousands of U.S. troops are reportedly being sent to the Middle East.

Despite these alleged peace talks, Hegseth would rather the killings continue, according to Trump. After Hegseth gave remarks — including saying "we negotiate with bombs" when it comes to Iran — Trump took to the podium to point out Hegseth's enthusiasm for war.

"You know, the only two people who were quite disappointed – I don’t want to say this, but I have to," Trump said about possible negotiations with Iran. "I said, 'Pete, and General Razin Caine, I think this thing’s going to be settled very soon. And they go: ‘Oh, that’s too bad.’"

Trump smirked in Hegseth's direction.

"Right? Pete didn’t want it to be settled," Trump said. "These guys are doing a great job."

Trump also used his remarks to say Hegseth didn't save Iranian Navy ships that the U.S. could have taken because bombing them was "more fun."

"They’re totally defeated," Trump falsely said about Iran. "You know, we killed their Navy, in, would you say three days, Pete? Gone. In fact, I was a little upset with Pete, I said: ‘Why didn’t you save the ships? We could have used them!’ He said ‘It’s more fun shooting them down!'"

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Re: Player News IrishDawg42 03/24/26 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
I really don't think Tate is going to be a #1 in the NFL. To me, he looks like a great #2 that will catch the ball.

If this was other years, he would probably be drafted late in the first or second round.


He is a great #2 to Jeremiah Smith, but JS is going to enter the league like Ja'Marr Chase did. He is generational, which is why Tate might "look" a little less when seeing them on the field together. However, Carnell Tate is equal or better than many of the receivers that have recently come into the draft. He is a better prospect than Jaxon Smith-Njigba, who was drafted #20 overall because he was in a loaded draft class. He was the first of four receivers taken in his draft in the first round.

Curious question, what in his game leads you to being a #2 receiver?

If this were other years, he would be exactly where he is today. He is a top WR candidate, which barring prospects like Jeremiah Smith or Ja'Marr Chase, he would still be in the talk as the best receiver in his class coming out.

First WR off the board the last ten years:
2025 Tet McMillan #8, Tate is rated higher
2024 Marvin Harrison Jr. drafted #4 overall, Tate would have been #3 receiver in 2024, Nabers was 2nd receiver drafted at #6 overall and Tate is rated just below him, both predicted year 1 starter.
2023 Jaxon Smith-Njigba #20, Tate is rated higher
2022 Drake London #8, Tate is rated higher
2021 Ja'Marr Chase#5, pretty obvious, Jaylen Waddle #6 was top ten pick #2 receiver, Tate is on par with Waddle
2020 Henry Ruggs #12 and Jerry Jeudy #15 were the first two WRs, Tate is rated much higher
2019 Bad draft class, but Tate would unquestionably be the top receiver in this draft, best of the class was Marquise Browns #25 overall
2018 Another bad draft, DJ Moore #24 was the first WR taken, but was rated much lower than Tate
2017 Corey Davis drafted #5 overall, Tate is rated higher
2016 Corey Coleman #15 was the first WR drafted, Tate is rated higher

All of these receivers were taken mid first or higher. All of those of those rated higher than him went top ten, many he is rated higher than still went top ten.

In this case, which I know it happens a lot, we don't have rose colored glasses on a Buckeye. He deserves the accolades he is getting. Having Smith and Tate on the field at the same time was a blessing for OSU, but it did take away individual stats. Tate is one of the best WR prospects of the last ten years.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 PitDAWG 03/24/26 07:39 PM
You, me and Pepperidge Farm remembers. thumbsup
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Re: Player News superbowldogg 03/24/26 07:24 PM
I really don't think Tate is going to be a #1 in the NFL. To me, he looks like a great #2 that will catch the ball.

If this was other years, he would probably be drafted late in the first or second round.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 superbowldogg 03/24/26 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
LOL!

She’s terrible. I mean, did she really write that and hit “send”?

That’s embarrassing.

I can't stand her
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Ballpeen 03/24/26 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Breaking news the Browns need a receiver and they may draft one somewhere in the draft.

Mary K is all over this.

I am surprised she didn't remind us that Generalissimo Franco is still dead. You need to have some age on you to understand.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/24/26 09:45 AM


This is a good interview - the absolute nugget is around the 9 minute mark.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/24/26 09:19 AM


Jon Stewart does it better than anyone, so true and hits the nail on the head.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 mgh888 03/23/26 07:59 PM
I think your summary is pretty spot on. He was put into an unwinnable position - he did the job as he saw it correctly and thoroughly and with an unbiased, non political agenda. Politics swept him up and vilified him which given his straight as an arrow reputation, military service and having been a registered Republican, was just sad and I guess an indication of the times and the impact of MAGA and the likes of Steve Bannon and company.

It is worth remembering that the reason for the inquiry/report was justified. Many people were prosecuted on the back of the report. As someone above mentioned Mueller always maintained it was not the reports purpose to say the PoTUS committed obstruction but to report the facts and let Congress decide.

With regards specifically to Trump the report did not exonerate him and stated: "If we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so" ... The report then provided what were 11 examples of behaviour exhibiting "Potential Obstruction". . . . including: Ordering White House Counsel Don McGahn to have Mueller fired (McGahn refused and threatened to resign). AND Privately sending messages of support to Flynn and Manafort; suggesting pardons to discourage them from cooperating.
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Re: Player News PitDAWG 03/23/26 06:54 PM
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Re: Browns News 6.0 lampdogg 03/23/26 06:54 PM
LOL!

She’s terrible. I mean, did she really write that and hit “send”?

That’s embarrassing.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 oobernoober 03/23/26 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Funny how views differ. I thought Mueller was the POS.

However, RIP and my thoughts are with his family.

I commend you on showing infinite more class on the matter than our current president. I can understand why you feel that way you do about Mueller. I offer my own perspective...

I felt that he was put into a very difficult position with his last assignment. I think it was quite clear that that investigation was doomed to "fail" from the start, and his name would be dragged into the mud along with it. By fail, I mean it was always going to be made into more of a political sideshow regardless of the strength/rigor of investigation taking place. Also, our govt has a pretty consistent MO of not wanting to hold anyone accountable if they of political significance.

Not only was he doomed to not make EVERYONE happy, he was also not going to make ANYONE happy.

MAGA couldn't accept anyone in Trump's sphere being indicted, and dems weren't going to tolerate Trump come away unscathed (ie uncharged).


Obviously, I'm not a huge fan of Trump the person. I have a hard time imagining him turning down help in winning a campaign and he's demonstrated several times that he doesn't feel laws apply to him.
I'm also not a huge fan of way our elected officials hold themselves accountable.

So between those 2 things, I thought he threaded the needle about as well as he could have. He didn't upset establish precedent of failing to hold our presidential candidates accountable for criminal/nefarious actions, but he was able to get his pound of flesh in terms of the folks he was able to charge. Again... won't make anyone happy, but was the best he was going to do.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 Damanshot 03/23/26 06:05 PM
RIP Mr. Mueller....

Trump is once again a DAMN FOOL!
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 WooferDawg 03/23/26 05:58 PM
Mueller fault was that he played by the pre-Trump playbook and Trump turned his words against him.

Mueller would not indict because he believed that was the work of Congress (House). Yep, that went no where.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/23/26 05:17 PM
" Trump, fearing Iran's response, backed down from his 48-hour ultimatum:
'I told the Department of Defense not to carry out any attacks on Iran's energy infrastructure for the time being' "

Just me - I don't believe Trump is smart enough to fear anything and I do not believe Iran is a serious threat to the USA or anyone not bordering Iran. I do think Trump might want to pull out and end the conflict/war/excursion or whatever else you want to call it -- because there is no "winning" without ground troops. Price of oil is up to $119. Markets have tanked. Iran was not a threat before and is not a threat now ... although you could argue Iran is MORE dangerous now. They were at the negotiating table, gave up huge concessions according to the 3rd party negotiators - and Israel and USA bombed the crappola out of them... which is sort of what Israel did in another "negotiation" within the last 12-18 months with another entity. ey ey ey.
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Re: Iranian War northlima dawg 03/23/26 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
"I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

"BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP"


Except every contact in Iran has denied any negotiation. Clearly Donny is trying to backtrack and find a way to exit the mess he created while saving face ... but he's doing it miserably. Why is he doing it now - because the markets are tanking and at the end of the day that is on him 100% and it's one thing he actually cares about (as well as himself).

Again - what does success look like. There is no answer from the fanboys - only deflection. Why - because this complete cluster fk is completely and wholly on Trump and his ego and is a complete failure.


https://www.ndtvprofit.com/world/tr...ter-us-holds-off-energy-strikes-11254790
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/23/26 04:36 PM
"I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

"BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP"


Except every contact in Iran has denied any negotiation. Clearly Donny is trying to backtrack and find a way to exit the mess he created while saving face ... but he's doing it miserably. Why is he doing it now - because the markets are tanking and at the end of the day that is on him 100% and it's one thing he actually cares about (as well as himself).

Again - what does success look like. There is no answer from the fanboys - only deflection. Why - because this complete cluster fk is completely and wholly on Trump and his ego and is a complete failure.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 03/23/26 04:04 PM
News from the future!

Immediately after being elected as president in 2028 Gavin Newsom officially changed the name of the Trump National Doral Miami to the Golf of Mexico.
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 BADdog 03/23/26 04:02 PM
thats their playbook
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Re: Robert Mueller, former FBI director who led Trump investigation, dies at 81 PitDAWG 03/23/26 04:00 PM
Could you translate that into English?
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