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Nothing in the article is a lie -- over 10.000 have left, with a net reduction in 4224. Stop BSing.

Anecdotally, the number of colleagues I know at NASA/DoE who are taking early retirements, moving to industry, or moving to Europe are extremely high. In addition to the net number leaving, the smaller number who are applying to jobs in the US is an even bigger factor. The job market this year in the US is a nightmare.

For example, look at Marie Curie Applications (the Biggest Postdoctoral Science Prize in Europe). Applications went up 64% this year compared to 2024, with the majority of the increase coming from applications outside of the EU. Those are people who would be applying to be in the US (either US citizens staying in the US, or internationals that would be applying to the US, but are staying away due to immigration restrictions:

https://marie-sklodowska-curie-acti...-postdoctoral-fellowships-2025-proposals

Well Sean McDermott is now available. But also don't forget other assistant coaches like Chris Shula.

I don't know 'Peen. Some may say twelve government employees are "necessary" to change a light bulb.

As usual, the headline doesn't really paint the entire picture though. In fact, some may even (rightfully so) call the title of the thread a lie. The net loss was 4224 STEM Ph.D.s., it says it right there in the second paragraph of the story.

Never much time to read beyond the headline though, get your quick dopamine hit and move on to the next. But hell, anything to embellish a story that "Trump hates science"; I guess that's the goal anyway.

What a lot of us hate, and voted for, is government bloat. But as usual, just like Daman's post above, libs love to paint a scary picture of the future and forever hide in the bushes when it doesn't come to pass. It's like groundhog's day for dummies.

And then there's this:

Why they left

Science’s analysis found that reductions in force, or RIFs, accounted for relatively few departures in 2025. Only at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where 16% of the 519 STEM Ph.D.s who left last year got pink RIF slips, did the percentage exceed 6%, and some agencies reported no STEM Ph.D. RIFs in 2025.

At most agencies, the most common reasons for departures were retirements and quitting. Although OPM classifies many of these as voluntary, outside forces including the fear of being fired, the lure of buyout offers, or a profound disagreement with Trump policies, likely influenced many decisions to leave.

Many Ph.D.s departed because their position was terminated. At NSF, 45% of the 204 STEM Ph.D.s who left last year were rotators—academics on leave from their university to work for a few years at the agency. Last year, NSF eliminated three-quarters of those positions.


So -- most departures had nothing to do with "pink slips". A lot of the people who left peed their pants on the way out the door because they don't like Trump. Many of the terminated were those that bounce back and forth between government and academia.

Scary story #4559 about how Trump is wrecking the country and there will be hell to pay later.

Feb 14 Olympic hockey, USA vs Denmark. Let's play for Greenland.

How many of these positions were necessary? Does anybody have an answer to that?

Just because some held a Ph.D. doesn't mean they were doing anything of worth.

Haslam waited on Baltimore to make his decision for him.

TWSS

the NFL is a brutal business.

I've been thinking about the timing of this whole thing over the past couple days.

Here's a conspiracy theory... Stefanski knew he was on his way out and broke the plan by winning the last two games. Jimmy was planning on being locked and loaded for the new coach to have a brand new QB in the draft. Stefanski knew he was the scapegoat and decided he wasn't going to go out as a lame duck.

You thought Jimmy was packing his bags all this time?

Broncos fire offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi following AFC Championship Game loss, per report

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/broncos-offensive-coordinator-joe-lombardi-fired/

Nearly a month later and the incompetence refuses to walk away from Berea.

It will be a while from now, but in the future, this will really sting....

If it weren’t for bad press they’d have no press at all…

BUMP!!!

CAVS on a pretty good roll right now, so Mobley being out 1-3 weeks is about right this season.

It’s gonna be Schwartz, bank on it.

As I stated before, no worries.

Those are rumors, not leaks. Here is what a leak is............

To "leak information" means to intentionally or unintentionally disclose, release, or expose confidential, sensitive, or private data to unauthorized individuals or the public. It involves breaking trust, where information meant to be secured is revealed. This can result from accidental human error, poor security measures, or deliberate, malicious sharing


For future reference, a question mark is used as a punctuation mark to ask you IF that's what you meant and not a statement CLAIMING that's what you meant.



You didn't make anything up. Those are questions and not statements. Once again a very simple mistake. If your options are limited and you really want a shot as a HC with having very little NFL coaching exprerence you would likely be more willing to take greater risks and less control to get that shot.

That's a statement.

A leak is true? Teams "leak" things all the time. Psst...we REALLY like Travis Hunter. Next on X: Our sources are telling us that the Browns are leaning on drafting Travis Hunter at number two..
It's draft season...the king of "leaks"

"Surely you're not suggesting that a passing game coordinator who has only coached in the NFL for short period of time has had the time to make the strong and vast connections someone who has been coaching in the league for many years have developed are you?"

Sure, that is what I said or meant.


Make something up?

1. Ok, JS knows more people...who says they're available or wanting to coach with him.

2. Generalizing, it keeps being brought up that our roster/team sucks. Then it is said: Why would a top tier HC come here? Take that example and now say you are a top tier assistant coach that is buddies with JS...sure you are friends, but why would you come here when they suck? So you can get fired in a couple years?



There are other examples besides those. However, I know where this is going. No worries.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...97911b7c1e846f2a25e6e910fc2f7f6&ei=9

Buried in the hilarious exchange in the media between Baker and a journo and then KS, article states Rees will call plays in Atlanta. I just found that kinda interesting (not sure what, if anything, to make of it).

Schwartz is the new Fav.

Sceelhaase is still there at 6/4

Anything is possibly a leak. But a leak is true. A rumor maybe or maybe not. That's certainly true. However when you have a pattern of behavior to base things on it tends to make this possibility much more plausible.

And you may make something up to counter what I said. Surely you're not suggesting that a passing game coordinator who has only coached in the NFL for short period of time has had the time to make the strong and vast connections someone who has been coaching in the league for many years have developed are you?

Cleveland Browns Still Deliberating Head Coaching Hire While Another Domino Falls

The Cleveland Browns are still contemplating their next head coach, but the Buffalo Bills have finally moved out of their way.

The Cleveland Browns returned from Los Angeles on Monday and immediately got to work on making a decision on their next head coach.

It’s been over three weeks since the Browns fired Kevin Stefanski after six seasons leading the organization. While Stefanski was quickly hired by the Atlanta Falcons, the Browns are inching closer to finding his replacement.
On Tuesday morning, the Buffalo Bills announced that they have hired their own offensive coordinator Joe Brady as their next head coach. This news came after the Bills virtually interviewed Los Angeles Rams passing game coordinator Nathan Scheelhaase on Monday evening.

The Browns spent Monday in California interviewing Scheelhaase, but returned to Northeast Ohio without a deal. According to reports, the team is persistent on keeping defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz on their staff.

With only two years of NFL experience, Scheelhaase might not have the rolodex of contacts required to build out an experienced coaching staff. Ideally, Schwartz, Monken or Washington Commanders run game coordinator Anthony Lynn could help lead the way.

Bills hiring Joe Brady is huge domino

The Bills hiring Brady is a huge domino in this. The Browns, Arizona Cardinals and Las Vegas Raiders are the only three remaining vacancies.

The league has moved fast, and it’s up to the Browns to make a decision. They held over 10 first-round interviews and brought back three for second interviews after Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Udinski and former Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel both dropped out of contention.

As the Browns deliberate on their next chapter, they have to weigh all options.

These are the options for the Browns
Sure, Scheelhaase only has two years of NFL experience. But the 35-year-old has learned from Sean McVay and has expertise in communication. As a former quarterback, he can help rejuvenate the offense in Cleveland, which Browns general manager Andrew Berry said would be getting some premium investments this offseason.

On the other hand, Schwartz, Lynn and Monken bring plenty of NFL experience. Monken has never been a head coach, but has found plenty of success as a play caller and offensive coordinator. When he was with the Browns during their 2019 season, Monken’s offense produced two 1,000 yard receivers in Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry and had a sound rushing duo with Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt.

Schwartz and Lynn would be retread options for the Browns, as they didn’t find much success in their first attempt at being head coaches in the NFL.

A timeline on a decision seems fluid, as the Browns continue to weigh their options.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/onsi/...-while-another-domino-falls-01kg06sr7631

What I said really doesn't have to do with having issues building a staff.

I understand what you are saying, however most of what you said can either be countered or is based on a "possible" leak/rumor.