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Re: Appeals court rules Trump can’t build White House ballroom without congressional approval BADdog 08/12/26 01:19 PM
trump didnt ask congress about tarrifs, He didnt ask about the war, He didnt ask about the ballroom. He is king trump! Why should he have to ask!
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 MemphisBrownie 08/12/26 12:54 PM
This team is free falling.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? mgh888 08/12/26 12:29 PM
Add to that the last coaching staff who appeared to preached accountability without ever seeming to instill any.
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Re: Appeals court rules Trump can’t build White House ballroom without congressional approval mgh888 08/12/26 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
JIMO all of this should have been sorted before construction was well under way.

What are we going to do now, have an unfinished construction project sitting on the White House property? Seems like petty politics to me.

Which is it? Should the POTUS adhered to the rules? Or is it petty politics? You can't have it both ways can you - unless you want to talk about of both sides of your mouth at the same time.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? mgh888 08/12/26 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
WOW average NFL arm strength, very fast release, quick feet, doesn't throw INT's, only in 2nd season, does not panic under pressure. Yet y'all still witch about him. A guy who just shows up, keeps his mouth shut, busts his ass, and grinds away trying to get better at his craft.

Sounds like you like a lot of the Gabriel characteristics, as I do ... from what you see/hear - does he have an opportunity to move up the depth chart? Is he going to get a fair opportunity to compete.
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Re: Appeals court rules Trump can’t build White House ballroom without congressional approval BADdog 08/12/26 12:01 PM
Yep following the law, pretty petty. Construction projects are stopped all the time. It is all his fault.. so let him continue. Lets not
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Re: Appeals court rules Trump can’t build White House ballroom without congressional approval Ballpeen 08/12/26 11:03 AM
Just asking the question as I don't know. Have there been cases where a President wanted to make some changes and the Congress said no and stopped things after they started? IMO all of this should have been sorted before construction was well under way.

What are we going to do now, have an unfinished construction project sitting on the White House property? Seems like petty politics to me.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 Ballpeen 08/12/26 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Stephen Vogt has severely regressed in his pitcher selections.

He keeps pulling bullpen pitchers with 2 outs and the lead and the next pitcher responds by giving up runs.

I think it is more the pitchers inability to come in and get the out.
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Re: Happy Anniversary to DawgTalkers Ballpeen 08/12/26 10:43 AM
It's been a quick 20 years. Thanks to all.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? Ballpeen 08/12/26 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Well I like that from Monken. Personally.

Hopefully it is to make a point and not "typical" - but it certainly sends a message to the QB's and the whole team.

** Edit - we needed that when a certain "star" WR didn't know where the F to line up and had to constantly be told by his QB ... right before he ran the wrong routes and 'got wide open'. Yes ... I definitely like Monken's intolerance of that incompetence.

I do as well. I have zero problem with a coach being ticked at his players, especially over things like not getting lined up properly after 2-3 weeks. A plays chance for success is predicated on getting out of the huddle on time and being lined up properly.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? GMdawg 08/12/26 06:55 AM
WOW average NFL arm strength, very fast release, quick feet, doesn't throw INT's, only in 2nd season, does not panic under pressure. Yet y'all still witch about him. A guy who just shows up, keeps his mouth shut, busts his ass, and grinds away trying to get better at his craft.
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Re: Happy Anniversary to DawgTalkers GMdawg 08/12/26 06:38 AM
Thanks for putting up with me for this long folks. I'm thankful for all of you who I now consider lifelong friends, that have blessed me to be a small part of their lives.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? WooferDawg 08/12/26 03:16 AM
Arm talent is way overrated and not a good indicator of QB success. Ask Jeff George, Derek Anderson or jay Cutler.

Give me Sipe, Brees, Montana or Kosar any day and twice on Sunday.
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Re: Browns News cont. Milk Man 08/12/26 02:59 AM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Anyone taking -130 on the Browns over 5.5 wins?

I'm thinking about it......

Absolutely hammered the under. Especially, after Haslam opened his mouth about the over and the dopey son-in-law doubled down. These two never get it right.

This is shaping up for your run-of-the-mill 4 or 5 win season.
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Re: Happy Anniversary to DawgTalkers YTownBrownsFan 08/12/26 01:09 AM
Thanks to all who have contributed over the years.

Thanks PPE for saving these stray dogs from the mean internet streets, and thanks Refs for keeping anyone's hands from being gnawed off. wink
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Happy Anniversary to DawgTalkers PrplPplEater 08/11/26 09:48 PM
I'm actually a couple days late with this, but this past weekend marks 20 years of us DawgTakin' and complaining about our beloved Cleveland Browns!

Thank you all for being here, and a MASSIVE Thank You to the Refs who have selflessly volunteered to keep this place held together and running well for all these years.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? Dawgs4Life 08/11/26 09:33 PM
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...analysts-said-about-the-browns-pick.html

“His overall arm talent is limited and average at best for the NFL"
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? Day of the Dawg 08/11/26 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
We get it. He threw just as many td's as Sanders did but only 2 int's and you think that isn't something good you can say about him. I suppose if you ignore all of his college career you could say Sanders has a stronger arm. And let's just pretend none of that had anything to do with the play calling. And on and on it goes......

Zach Jackson has said that many times watching both QB's throw during camp.... Gabriel was a terrific college QB. You can get away being tiny in college not the NFL.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? PitDAWG 08/11/26 08:45 PM
We get it. He threw just as many td's as Sanders did but only 2 int's and you think that isn't something good you can say about him. I suppose if you ignore all of his college career you could say Sanders has a stronger arm. And let's just pretend none of that had anything to do with the play calling. And on and on it goes......
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? Day of the Dawg 08/11/26 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
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No. I watched him playing QB for the Browns last year

No you watched him run for his life last year as a rookie, and still put up better numbers than any other Browns QB.

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He either could not see the field or refused to throw down the field.

Just how well does any QB throw the ball down the field while A laying on their back, B having 3 or 4 defenders in their face 2.0 seconds after the snap. C with no WR open on the field.

Judge not Brother least you be judged.


He did not throw picks. That is the only good things you can say about him. Overall stats he and Sanders threw the same amount of TD's and Sanders had higher yards per completion and he was able to throw the ball down the field. Sanders did not play well last year by any stretch of the imagination but his ability to throw the ball down the field and make some plays 7 of the Browns top 10 most explosive plays came with Sanders at QB is what separated the 2 of them. That and even though Sanders is short for a QB he is 3 inches taller and has a stronger arm.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? MemphisBrownie 08/11/26 08:02 PM
DOD, I think Gabriel has shown he has a pretty strong arm in college, but you're right, he certainly didn't use it last season. I'm guessing that is the responsibility of Stefanski & Co. when it comes to play calling, just now sure the reason(s) why they chose to use him the way they did.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? GMdawg 08/11/26 07:52 PM
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No. I watched him playing QB for the Browns last year

No you watched him run for his life last year as a rookie, and still put up better numbers than any other Browns QB.

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He either could not see the field or refused to throw down the field.

Just how well does any QB throw the ball down the field while A laying on their back, B having 3 or 4 defenders in their face 2.0 seconds after the snap. C with no WR open on the field.

Judge not Brother least you be judged.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? GMdawg 08/11/26 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
His clear arm strength on his college tape which I have posted more than once proves a lack of arm strength in incorrect. It also shows his ability to scramble when needed. That along with his accuracy to covered WR's. Not saying he is Lamar Jackson but how many NFL QB's are?

It appears I need to show these again.





Please stop posting false and misleading statements.


I see a hell of a lot of those 45 to 55 yard right on target throws.
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? MemphisBrownie 08/11/26 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Yes, maybe saying he sucks is harsh - I will soften that a bit by saying he cannot be a good QB in this league IMO. His arm strength, size, and lack of athleticism will be too much to overcome. He's Cody Kessler IMO

IMO He is going to be better than Colt Mccoy.
Phew. I feel so much better.....
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Re: Watson vs Sanders? GMdawg 08/11/26 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Yes, maybe saying he sucks is harsh - I will soften that a bit by saying he cannot be a good QB in this league IMO. His arm strength, size, and lack of athleticism will be too much to overcome. He's Cody Kessler IMO

IMO He is going to be better than Colt Mccoy.
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