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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC jfanent 01/28/26 10:01 PM
Maybe we could package Schwartz with Deshaun Watson to sweeten the return on a trade.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 09:58 PM
George better pray for an infusion of talent on the OL. To accomplish his work he will need something to work with.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC 1oldMutt 01/28/26 09:55 PM
George better get to work immediately! He’s got some work to do!
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC bugs 01/28/26 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

George was Cleveland's offensive line coach from 2009 to 2013 under head coach Eric Mangini.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 09:49 PM
While I believe they use the Browns as an example of how not to plan their strategies. They feel if that's what the Browns did, do the opposite.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Homewood Dog 01/28/26 09:25 PM
Doesn’t matter Pit we are the league’s TRENDSETTERS!!!!!!! Most of the teams in this league look to us to plan their strategies!
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 09:22 PM
They certainly do and most of them are not positive. naughtydevil
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Homewood Dog 01/28/26 09:17 PM
Never but as we all know our Cleveland Browns are unprecedented. We don't follow trends we set them!!!!!!
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC 1oldMutt 01/28/26 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
When have you ever heard of any NFL team trading for an OC or DC?

Jimmy and his GM will offer PITT Schwartz and their 1st for Aaron Rodger’s…
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 09:05 PM
When have you ever heard of any NFL team trading for an OC or DC?
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC MemphisBrownie 01/28/26 09:05 PM
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Re: U.S. government has lost more than 10,000 STEM Ph.D.s since Trump took office PitDAWG 01/28/26 09:03 PM
Not only were researchers jobs cut, so was research funding. It's not a complicated road map. Cancer research isn't something to play around with.

And let's be honest here, the reason were were given for a lot of research funding cuts to colleges and universities is because "they were woke" and nothing else. Please help me understand how that is a plausible reasoning for funding cuts to diseases and cancer research?
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC YTownBrownsFan 01/28/26 08:59 PM
Just an idea

Promote Tarver to DC and trade Schwartz.

That is about the best I can come up with. banghead
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 08:57 PM
How much value do you think a disgruntled DC being forced to stay under his contract is worth? They can't force the players on defense to repond to the way you are treating their coach.

The Browns can force him to stay under contract. They can't force him to be on the sidelines or at practice as the acting DC.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC 1oldMutt 01/28/26 08:56 PM
[s][/s]It wasn’t an attractive job because no matter what the frenzied media says or helps promote the Cleveland Browns have NO quarterback and only the smallest sliver of hope for getting one soon. This guy has a pretty decent offensive track record and adequate DCs are out there but…QBs, at least really good ones, are rare as rocking horse poop.

Show some class, release JS amicably, get the heck out of the new guys way move on.
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Re: U.S. government has lost more than 10,000 STEM Ph.D.s since Trump took office Ballpeen 01/28/26 08:54 PM
We have gotten off track here.

Bottom line, some jobs were trimmed for various reasons, and some were added.

Back to my original comment, were all of them needed? In the end I am not all that worried about it.
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Re: college quarterback prospects PitDAWG 01/28/26 08:49 PM
I won't address the probability of that happening but you are certainly correct that is a strong possibility.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Day of the Dawg 01/28/26 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Or the Browns could just honor his wishes and allow him to leave. Of course if they want to add insult to injury they could force JS into a marriage he hates being in. I don't see how anything productive could come from that.

Just out of the kindness of their hearts!!!! If they do they would owe him $$$ for releasing him of his contract. Maybe if he forfeited that $$$ but I doubt he would do that. If another team like Pittsburg wanted to hire him do you allow him to go there for nothing? That is not good business.

At some point people need to consider the long term ramifications of their actions. Let me explain what's not good business. Showing every coach on every level in the NFL that you are a team that will hire a new HC and then force a DC that doesn't want to work under the new HC to stay. They've already shown that they wanted to force a new HC to only have control of the offense and keep the current DC. That disaster didn't end well.

As if the Browns didn't have enough trouble in the hiring process at HC this time, actions like that will make it even harder the next time.

These people live in the business world. They understand contracts. Just like Garrett he had no real leverage. The Browns could have forced him to fulfill his contract, and they then could have franchised tagged him after that. People can yell and complain but that is business. I would expect them to work out a resolution with JS. Money talks. Ask Garrett. But if you think he is valuable you do not let value just walk out the door for nothing. Maybe a team thinks enough of him as a DC they are willing to trade a draft pick for him? Do you want to lose that opportunity. JS is angry and he has a right to be angry but at the end of the day he is a professional and he will either honor his contract or work out some kind of resolution to leave. I doubt the Browns or any other team that feels they have something of value will pay someone of value to just walk out the door. That is plain silly.
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Re: U.S. government has lost more than 10,000 STEM Ph.D.s since Trump took office PitDAWG 01/28/26 08:47 PM
Says the man who all he has are insults when he has no defense he can present with any facts.

Typical trumpian response. Just another sign in how your kind are dumbing down America. notallthere
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Re: The. Dems. PitDAWG 01/28/26 08:45 PM
What in my post was inaccurate? Are you claiming the Nazi's didn't get due process? That there were no Nuremberg trials? Are you claiming he was threatening them with violence when all he stated is that they would be hunted down and tried in court?

I'm not even sure you know what a forest or a tree looks like.
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Re: college quarterback prospects Ballpeen 01/28/26 08:41 PM
With the hire of Monken, Carson Beck might be a guy to watch. Both had a lot of success when both were at Georgia.

Beck might be a 3-4 round target. Not sure were he might be valued but if Monken thinks Beck is a potential good fit, we might draft him.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC PitDAWG 01/28/26 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Or the Browns could just honor his wishes and allow him to leave. Of course if they want to add insult to injury they could force JS into a marriage he hates being in. I don't see how anything productive could come from that.

Just out of the kindness of their hearts!!!! If they do they would owe him $$$ for releasing him of his contract. Maybe if he forfeited that $$$ but I doubt he would do that. If another team like Pittsburg wanted to hire him do you allow him to go there for nothing? That is not good business.

At some point people need to consider the long term ramifications of their actions. Let me explain what's not good business. Showing every coach on every level in the NFL that you are a team that will hire a new HC and then force a DC that doesn't want to work under the new HC to stay. They've already shown that they wanted to force a new HC to only have control of the offense and keep the current DC. That disaster didn't end well.

As if the Browns didn't have enough trouble in the hiring process at HC this time, actions like that will make it even harder the next time.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC FATE 01/28/26 08:36 PM
I see we're going to do haikus every five posts. Here's mine.

Wisdom bought in cans,
Beer breath fuels his sports talk rage—
Browns' dullest prophet.
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Re: Todd Monken Hired as Browns HC Ballpeen 01/28/26 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
And he's leaving anyway. banghead

Honestly, if you could turn back the clock and draw up the worst-case scenario when considering firing Stefanski, we're watching it right now.

Pretty much.

Jimmy should have fired beady-eyed Berry.

The fallout of this is losing Schwartz. Now we have both sides of the ball to fix, if in fact Schwartz leaves. Sometimes initial reactions change after a few days, but I have a feeling they won't in this case.

The happenings over this last month or two have cemented a feeling I have milled around for the last couple of years. After 19 seasons as a season ticket holder I am not going to renew for a 20th year. lol...See comment above about initial reactions.

There are a lot of reasons involved, not all football related.

When I first got them, I was traveling up to 5-6 games a year for several years and figured I might as well get season tickets. 20 some years later I am going up to maybe 4 games a year. Might as well just go back and buy tickets online.
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Re: U.S. government has lost more than 10,000 STEM Ph.D.s since Trump took office FATE 01/28/26 08:32 PM
I'm sorry, your hell-bent stupidity has been mildly entertaining.

You're right though, I should leave before you go from Joey Tribbiani to full-blown Homer Simpson.
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