Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ????
PitDAWG
06/08/26 08:11 PM
Do you have some evidence to support that when even trump doesn't have any? Of course you don't.  I'll do my best to explain this to you. Maybe read it slowly? Karen Bass is the mayor of L.A. The vast majority f L.A. voters are Democrats. Running against a Republican would insure she would win by a landslide. Running against another Democrat will leave the election up for grabs. The best thing that could happen for Bass would have been for Pratt to have came in second over Raman and not the other way around. Please at least try to engage your brain rather than just mindlessly repeating everything trump says.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ????
Day of the Dawg
06/08/26 08:05 PM
California is not even trying to hide the cheating in their elections. This Country is moving closer and closer to having elections like the USSR. People vote and the elites decide. I hope everyone is watching and seeing what a cracker jack process election looks like. Cheating plain and simple.
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Re: I Thought Canada Was Going to be the 51'st State?
PrplPplEater
06/08/26 06:11 PM
The problem with adding states is that the ones on the list would likely be democratic in political preference. All that aside, for whatever it's worth, I'd love for the U.S. to add at least Alberta (throw in Yukon for giggles, too) and Greenland as states, if they so chose to join us. It would be absolutely great for us, and I think they'd come to agree that it works for them as well. Venezuela.... that's tempting, but that's a lot of remote border we have to secure; anyone in there would have free travel anywhere here without Customs - it would require some infrastructure, but it would absolutely strengthen the U.S. and would be great for us if it could be done. Heck, a United States that has Alberta (and its oil fields), Venezuela, Yukon, and Greenland would be a nation that produces roughly 30% of the world's daily oil production while also securing decades worth of rare earths; enough to challenge China directly. We'd simply need to build the refining and processing for those rare earth's to be self-sufficient.
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Re: What If?
PrplPplEater
06/08/26 05:50 PM
Green definitely has potential, and while I still prefer a Trent Green style QB, I could live with a "Lamar" Green if it brings wins, even if I will be screaming at the TV like it's Brady Quinn back there. Wheels like his cover up a lot of sins.
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Re: What If?
OrangeHelmet
06/08/26 05:47 PM
I'm looking forward to the mini-camp and the pre-season. B4 I even look at '27 QB's I want to see Sanders and Green, yep Green. He showed super at the combine and has the potential to be as good or better than Lamar. Only if both Sanders and Green are flops will I look beyond, Though I would have liked Sorsby if available.
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Re: Browns News cont.
PrplPplEater
06/08/26 05:46 PM
In general, I won't disagree. The flip side is that I doubt we have a QB on the roster that can be more effective than him and they may be tempted by that.
On a side note, I remember making the case that even in his best years in Houston, he never really did all that much (despite his numbers). I've always felt he was more a product of his system and the insane WRs he always had (and the years he had a solid defense).
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Re: What If?
PitDAWG
06/08/26 05:25 PM
That would all be dependent on whether they landed a franchise QB with those draft picks they gave up for him. If they still didn't have a franchise QB they would still be needing draft assets to put us in a position to get one. I see your point that they would have had more draft assets over those years with which to attempt to draft a QB but the question will always remain if they would have or not.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded
Homewood Dog
06/08/26 04:17 PM
At first, I thought Sorsby might be worth a shot and then I read how far into it he was. No thanks I'll pass. We don't need any more drama here. Sorsby may stay clean the rest of his life and never even buy a scratch ticket, but if he plays in the NFL people will never let him forget what he did. His mistakes on the field will always be questioned. Unfair to him but as they say you made your bed. Let him play somewhere else.
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Re: Browns News cont.
bonefish
06/08/26 04:12 PM
DW has done next to nothing in years.
When he played for the Browns other than one game. He was awful.
He held the ball. He was late to recognize what was open. Moved from the pocket early. Then broke a bone in his shoulder.
That was followed by tearing his Achilles twice. There is nothing to be gained by starting him.
He will not be extended. No way.
The Browns have to find out what Shedeur can do with a team around him that has some weapons and at least an average OL.
This is now a young team. Myles is gone. Carson and Verse are new leaders on defense going forward.
It is time that a quarterback takes control of the offense and leads the offense.
That is not DW.
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Re: What If?
Homewood Dog
06/08/26 04:07 PM
If we didn't make that trade for Watson and didn't give him that ridiculous contract, we might actually be contending for a Super Bowl or maybe already been in one. Only the Mike Ditka trade fiasco for Ricky Williams comes remotely close to it. What a shame!
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Re: Browns News cont.
Bard Dawg
06/08/26 03:36 PM
Apt way of comparison. Under pressure, we do what we practiced, easiest reaction is fastest. Improvements are suspect for SS who had a lot to correct.
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Re: What If?
Bard Dawg
06/08/26 03:30 PM
I am not this curious. These QB problems are hard to ignore, to hide, and to compensate for. Monken's due diligence will demand looking beyond SS. Place holder room now.
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Re: What If?
PrplPplEater
06/08/26 03:11 PM
start Shedeur for the reasons Irish gave. Let him sink or swim. If he does well, we could be drafting in the early 20's but can still move up to take a QB if we have to. If he doesn't, we'll probably de drafting in the top 10. Honestly, this is the only scenario I can see where Shedeur is the starter for Game 1. I don't believe he is capable of actually earning it outright. I mean, he might surprise and actually show that he can operate under pressure and make good, quick decisions that don't turn the ball over, but we won't remotely have a chance to see that until mid-August. Watson will be here no matter what - and will nearly certainly be gone in March (with a Post-June 1 designation).... the only question is what is their near term goal and plans with Shedeur. I expect we want to have a really solid feel of what we do and don't have with Shedeur before next year's Draft and for that reason alone, we may roll with him out of the gate. Maybe see if we can build him up a little and find someone to trade for him? I strongly feel that both are likely viewed as just placeholders for this year. The kid we just drafted this year, Green, I expect to see Monken work in packages where he is used like Lamar, and depending on how he progresses, we may see more and more of him toward the end of the season. FWIW: Watson will still count $34 million against our cap in '27 and another $51 million in '28. Just imagine what we could have afforded to have done with this roster each year if we hadn't given him that idiotic contract.
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Re: Browns News cont.
PrplPplEater
06/08/26 02:47 PM
Honestly, I can't see the starter being anyone other than Watson. Shedeur's good days are in the ballpark of Watson's bad days (not his worst, but his average bad).
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded
IrishDawg42
06/08/26 02:42 PM
We need a QB. That leads me to thinking I would take a shot on Sorsby in the supplemental. I don't have any clue what sort of draft pick it would involve. That doesn't mean we give up on Sanders. It doesn't mean we still don't draft a QB in next years draft.
Its simply a result of screwing around with the position for the last 25 years and we finally decided to load up on as much young talent as possible at the position. I was thinking a 4th, but again, I don't study it enough to place a risk reward factor on the matter. I know I wouldn't go with a 2nd rounder and have reservations about a 3rd round pick.
As you said, a 4th seems like a reasonable walk away price if it came down to that. A 7th is to High. The LAST thing we need is Art Schlichter JR Apparently, Todd Monken agrees with GMdawg. This is what was reported over the weekend by Pete Mundo: Speaking with reporters, Cleveland Browns head coach Todd Monken shut down any notion that Sorsby was under consideration by the organization. Monken - “That’s not even come across my desk,” Monken said. “I like the quarterbacks that we have. I think that’s a slippery slope, when you go down that [road]. Irrespective of talent, in terms of the situation [Sorsby’s] put himself in, we all know what that is. He put himself in that situation. And we’ve seen in other sports with players that have been banned for life from playing in professional sports.” Monken’s comments are among the strongest public remarks made by a coach regarding Sorsby’s situation since reports emerged surrounding the Texas Tech quarterback’s alleged involvement in sports gambling activities. The Browns entered the offseason with significant questions at quarterback, leading some observers to wonder whether the franchise could explore unconventional options. Monken’s comments suggest that is not under consideration. So, there's that. Of course Monken isn't in charge of personnel until it comes down to the final roster. Berry could be thinking something different. I would be surprised if he didn't at least involve the HC if he was considering it. Sorsby just had his appeal denied on Friday, but he still has a pending lawsuit against the NCAA. He had a judge rule in his favor, which at least temporarily re-instates his eligibility to play in 2026 at Texas Tech. I don't know if he would apply for a supplemental while that lawsuit is going on or not. He would have to do so though for the NFL to even think about having a supplemental. They don't just automatically do it. He has unto June 22nd to apply for the supplemental, then the NFL decides whether to hold it or not based on circumstances. As of today.. he is eligible for the NCAA, so no supplemental, I would assume.
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Re: Browns News cont.
PitDAWG
06/08/26 02:14 PM
One ting I think people should take notice of is the depth chart always changes during the process. From training camp through the pre-season and right up until opening day it's going to fluctuate. I don't think naming starters this early in the process has any actual meaning. But then Monkin is a first time NFL HC so there may be a bit of a learning curve here.
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Re: Iran War II
PitDAWG
06/08/26 02:02 PM
And the Hotel they hit Dubai? Come on man.
Since the outbreak of the regional conflict, Iran and its aligned networks have targeted critical civilian infrastructure, energy networks, and commercial assets across the Middle East. Major non-military targets hit include;
Energy & Petrochemical Infrastructure: Iranian and proxy strikes (via drones and missiles) have severely impacted major oil refineries, liquid natural gas (LNG) plants, and export terminals in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar. Debris and attacks also forced the shutdown of the Habshan gas complex and disrupted the Fujairah export terminal in the UAE. In Bahrain, strikes on the Sitra oil refinery caused disruptions leading to a declaration of force majeure.
Communications & Utility Hubs: Satellite imagery has documented severe damage to satellite communication sites, such as the long-range AN/FPS-132 early-warning radar in Qatar, and power plants at U.S. installations like Camp Buehring in Kuwait, which also provide broader civilian grid utility.
Maritime & Shipping Targets: Civilian commercial vessels, including foreign-flagged ships, have been repeatedly struck or harassed in the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, and the Gulf of Oman, heavily disrupting regional supply chains.
Urban & Civilian Centers: Drone and ballistic missile barrages have penetrated civilian areas in both Israel and neighboring Gulf countries. In exchanges with Israel, both sides have repeatedly struck petrochemical plants, most notably targeting the Haifa petrochemical facilities.
You're going to need a whole list of excuses.
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Browns News cont.
bonefish
06/08/26 11:58 AM
Tomorrow mandatory Camp begins.
Three days, no contact, no pads what to expect?
After these three days everybody goes home till real training camp begins.
Monken said he would like to have his starter in place. It might not work out that way.
Given that DW and Shedeur are competing for the starter's job. Naming the starter when nobody is in pads and there is no contact could be hard to do. When training begins everybody knows things heat up. Eleven on eleven with pads and a rush means timing and competition is at play.
These three days there will talk from reporters but we shall see what Monken has to say.
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