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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 bonefish 06/07/26 09:23 PM
It is not funny but trump on "Meet the Press."

His behavior is embarrassing. Stunning that a president of the US acts in such a manner.

Totally out of control. Spouting nonsense about the convicted criminals of Jan 6th and how they were harmed.

Babbling lunatic.
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Re: What If? bonefish 06/07/26 09:15 PM
If he fails.

You know and everything is clear. You land somewhere in the draft order.

If he is really bad DW plays.

Playing DW accomplishes nothing. I give him less of a chance than Shedeur.

He would have to damn near win a Super Bowl to get an extension.

Berry has stacked the deck to be a player in the draft. That is the plan.

Playing Shedeur is nothing to lose IMO.
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 06/07/26 09:03 PM
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Re: What If? PitDAWG 06/07/26 08:51 PM
I certainly see your point but I think there is another very legitimate way to look at this. I don't think the point is to simply "hand the job to Sanders". Watson certainly has the experience to give him the upper hand going into this. But I think the angle one must consider is do people realistically see Watson being re-signed here? I don't think most of us do. We would have to compete against every other QB needy team for his services and he would have to totally turn things around as well. After everything the team has been though since his arrival, would one average season change any of that? So I feel you would have to look at it from the perspective that this will be Watson's last season in a Browns uniform.

So if watson is the starter this season, where does that leave us? It leaves us totally in the dark on whether Sanders could be the answer going into next season. The Browns wouldn't have any idea what they do have left at the QB position. At that point is it wiser to invest this season to see what Sanders can become moving forward to give them a fair assessment going into the draft next season where they stand at the QB position or be completely in the dark by having Sanders sit this season?

Please don't get me wrong. I think sanders having the ability to take a giant leap forward this year is somewhere between slim and none. But then again I'm no expert. I'm just a person who understands both sides of the coin here.

I know Browns fans are starving for a winning team and a winning season. I know they are tired of the "wait until next year" thought process. I am as well. I know it's Monken's job to win games. But at this juncture next year and next years QB's class will be the deciding factor on the Browns long term success unless Sanders turns from caterpillar into a butterfly. And we will never know the answer to that question if he doesn't play. No matter how slim that possibility may be. So does the team go for instant gratification or look to clear up the questions surrounding the long term QB situation moving forward?

My opinion would be to let Sanders start up until the time comes this FO feels they have their answer if Sanders can be the guy or not moving forward. If not and he botches it all up, play watson.
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Re: What If? Bard Dawg 06/07/26 08:17 PM
What if he doesn't? Lot of wishful thinking here, hoping it all comes together and he is appointed and anointed. You seem to post regularly about handing him the starter job. Talk to us about how bad he has to play, what would the shortcomings be, to deny that? I see him as a keepable third if he improved over last year, but that is a reach born of generosity. I don't think that everything is in the air because it is a complex decision to be made with many moving variables. We did see some serious issues needing to be addressed and overcome. We need to be guilty of fairness in assessing abilities going forward. Need to see that under Monken.
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Re: Iran War II mgh888 06/07/26 07:48 PM
Residents of French village say US defense chief Hegseth not welcome for D-Day visit - France 24 https://share.google/YnCEGzvicOHE3PNlb

Residents of French village say US defense chief Hegseth not welcome for D-Day visit
France
US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Saturday marked the 82nd anniversary of the World War II D-Day landings with a visit to Normandy, but did not attend the international ceremony hosted in Langrune-sur-Mer. Residents said his "warlike views" were unwelcome in their village and questioned his commitment to "democratic values".

Didn't know where you put this ... But interesting and a reaction and reflection of things like this illegal war of choice.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded PitDAWG 06/07/26 06:24 PM
I don't really allow Green or any other QB on the roster enter into this. We have a new HC in his rookie year of being an NFL HC installing an entire new system to the O. That includes the QB room. That's a huge undertaking. The last thing they need is to add what seems like a good possibility of being a huge distraction to the process.

Other, more established teams under a different scenario may view the situation differently. But the Browns would be the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Re: What If? PitDAWG 06/07/26 06:17 PM
Those possibilities may become more clear as the season unfolds. By the time the season is over those possibilities may have dwindled.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 06/07/26 06:14 PM
In a surprising turn of events Trump has decided to attend game 3 of the NBA finals. That's not really the surprising part. The surprising part is he said he will be rooting for the Nicks. You would think he would be rooting for the Spurs since that's what kept him out of Vietnam.

Courtesy of Jimmy Kimmel.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded IrishDawg42 06/07/26 05:35 PM
I think he will probably go in the 5th or 6th. But, I still don’t want to deal with everything that goes along with him. It will be yet another circus and at the end of the day his chances are not great for success. He has some skills, I’m not knocking that, but based on the film I watched I would give him a third round grade. He had a lot of development needed for the NFL.

Stay away.. I’m more excited to see if Green can develop than taking on Sorsby.
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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 06/07/26 05:26 PM
Yeah Homewood, I’m not convinced the Myles trade is going to sink this team like some others do. With Verse added to the mix, Berry set the defense up to succeed immediately. The extra picks along with him can go anywhere the team needs them to. Might be a QB, might be defensive backfield or offensive line. There really are so many possibilities now.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded bonefish 06/07/26 03:00 PM
I think you are right.

If it was only talent that would be one thing. Sorsby was way in. He was obsessed to be betting like he was. In addition he was diagnosed with anxiety disorder.

We went down that path with Manziel. He was an alcoholic and his own father spelled it out.

It would take a third or maybe a second. Not worth it.

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Re: What If? Homewood Dog 06/07/26 02:30 PM
I agree there is a chance we could be good and win 10 games and make the playoffs. Todd Monken is going to start the QB that gives us the best chance to win because it's his job to win as many games as possible. However. it would make more sense for the long term to start Shedeur for the reasons Irish gave. Let him sink or swim. If he does well, we could be drafting in the early 20's but can still move up to take a QB if we have to. If he doesn't, we'll probably de drafting in the top 10. A lot of things up in the air with many questions to be answered. At least we have the draft capitol to move up. Smart move by AB.
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Re: Iran War II PitDAWG 06/07/26 02:26 PM
Those are only "some" of the targets hit. Kuwait International Airport was heavily struck by Iranian drones on June 3, 2026. The attack resulted in the death of one person (an Indian national) and injured over 60 others, causing extensive damage to Terminal 1.

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Re: What If? bonefish 06/07/26 02:19 PM
Given that Shedeur started last year 4th on the depth chart.

The entire off season he was on his own program. He got after practice reps.

He rarely got reps until he was in games. Once he became the starter. There was bare bones behind him. The OL was horrific.
Q got injured. Jeudy couldn't catch a cold. The only guy catching passes was a rookie TE.

Under those circumstances there was little room to accurately evaluate Shedeur. He got seven games under his belt and at times showed flashes. The one thing he did show was he is accurate when given time.

The Present. The OL is entirely new. Q is healthy. We drafted on offense and upgraded the receivers.

He has had an entire off season to process his rookie experience. That means he could study and learn.

Enter Monken. This is a new offense. Shedeur is fighting for the starters role. He is getting first team reps. He is part of installing the new offense. All reports from Monken are positive in regards to Shedeur and his progress.

Real mandatory Camp has not begun yet. Shedeur is way ahead of where he was last year.

Monken wants to name the starter early. If it is Shedeur. He will certainly be more ready than he was last year.

We have not seen the offense and it may take time to gel. One would expect that. The Myles trade for all the talk did not improve the offense which is what sucked last year.

The truth is I do not care about what any predictions are made. Nobody gets their fingers chopped off if wrong. In fact nobody remembers predictions after they are made.

We really do not know a thing about how the Browns will do. There are so many factors at play it is impossible. Last year means nothing.

Until we play real games. We know nothing.
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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 06/07/26 01:46 PM
Bone, while it is a dream right now, there is a chance it could become a reality.

My biggest pause is that it is usually pretty slow implementing a whole new system. Pair that with starting an entirely new offensive line. Not one of them have played together before.

I would put the chance of everything coming together fast enough to win consistently at about 20%.

I just don’t trust either QB. I hope I’m wrong. It would be my wildest dream for Shedeur to step up, but he didn’t show much last season and it’s only year two with a whole new coaching staff. He is so much pressure all the time. It’s not just Shedeur, it’s the whole Sanders family. You got bro who can’t stay off social media and you got Pops who wants to meet with the coaching staff. I know it’s easy to say, ignore Deion, but if you do that then you have Shedeur for 4 years and he goes somewhere he can control the agenda, period.

Even if.. they pull it together and win games this year, I would still like to find a way to get a QB in 2027. I don’t believe in Gabriel, I’m ready to move on and let him find a comfy back up job with a team that is settled with their main guy. That’s his role in the league. Watson is already gone. I get that he is the best chance to win in 2026, his veteran presence could help the offense to come together sooner than later, but it won’t give anyone else the needed reps to get up to pro speed. As much as I want to win at all cost, I really just want to give the starting job to Shedeur and move forward. Give him all the opportunities he needs to succeed and see where it goes. If he falls on his face, that’s on him and his dad can’t cause any drama. If he doesn’t, well then we can start finding ways to make this roster hole free with the assets we have in the draft from Myles. We still have a way to go if Haslem’s plan is to be championship caliber for the opening in 2029. The only way to get there sooner is to hit a home run with a QB. Just so much room to fail, I wish we could get that with Sanders.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 bonefish 06/07/26 01:12 PM
Given the injuries right off the start of the season to the starting rotation.

I was hoping that by the All Star break the Braves could be over .500 and within 6 games of the lead. Then when they got a couple starters back they could make a run.

They are 17-2-1 in the series they have played.
They are 23 games over .500.

They are in first place with a 9.5 game lead.

There is no way in hell I saw this happening.

I am loving this. It would be out of character for their GM to make this deal. But I could see them doing it.

Skubal will be traded more than likely. He will be a mega free agent after this year. So trading for him is most likely a rental.

However, getting Skubal to pair with Chris Sale would give the Braves a hellava one two punch in the playoffs.

I could see this happening.
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Re: Aging bonefish 06/07/26 12:28 PM
More Rodney.

"I am the age where food replaces sex.
So I put a mirror over the kitchen table."
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded YTownBrownsFan 06/07/26 12:24 PM
I want no part of Sorsbey. If it were just a case of talent, fine. However, with all of the rest of the stuff he has done with gambling and such, no way.

Look at the disastrous QB situation we have had over the years. No thanks on Sorsbey. Let someone else take the chance. Just get our QB in next year's draft. If that means we tank. Fine. That's what we should have done this past year.
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Re: Aging Ballpeen 06/07/26 12:18 PM
You know you are getting older when you have to stand up for 10-15 seconds before you actually start to walk anywhere.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded Ballpeen 06/07/26 12:14 PM
We need a QB. That leads me to thinking I would take a shot on Sorsby in the supplemental. I don't have any clue what sort of draft pick it would involve. That doesn't mean we give up on Sanders. It doesn't mean we still don't draft a QB in next years draft.

Its simply a result of screwing around with the position for the last 25 years and we finally decided to load up on as much young talent as possible at the position.
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Re: Aging YTownBrownsFan 06/07/26 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Hell, I know I'm getting old.

When I squeeze into a tight parking spot I get sexually satisfied.


I just watched that Rodney Dangerfield bit the other day. wink
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Re: I Thought Canada Was Going to be the 51'st State? Damanshot 06/07/26 11:15 AM
Originally Posted by WooferDawg
The problem with adding states is that the ones on the list would likely be democratic in political preference.


Without a doubt Greenland and Canada would be Democratic, Venezuela and Cuba, not so much.. But look at the Mass and population of Greenland and Canada....
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Re: What If? bonefish 06/07/26 11:05 AM
What if Shedeur Sanders plays great?

The lights come on and he processes the offense. Gets rid of the ball on time and on target to a bunch of new talented receivers.

Q looks like Nick.

Verse plays great.

What could happen if this team shocked all of us?

That is the good thing about being 0-0.

We can dream before the sun comes up.
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Re: Aging GMdawg 06/07/26 08:00 AM
rofl
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