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Re: Deshaun Watson today bonefish 09/29/26 01:03 PM
DW has played better.

He has been really good in the fourth quarter of the last two games.

I don't want to discount what he has done.

However, we came from behind to win two close games. The outcomes of those games would have been different "if" a number of sure interceptions were not dropped.

A sure pick six and a number of others that would have made the outcomes different.

He has shown better mobility than expected. That has made a difference.

DW has to protect the ball and avoid turnovers. If he can do that. We will win games that we were not expected to win.
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Re: Supreme Court has given the Trump administration the green light to use a federal citizenship database to verify voters mgh888 09/29/26 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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I have no faith elections are up and up...and lets face it folks, perception of the populace becomes the reality.
Good little puppet
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Re: OSU/ College Football Ballpeen 09/29/26 10:59 AM
The problem is too many idolize the thug mentality. Be it in sports or anywhere else. The actual hit can be shrugged off as an accident. The celebrations can't. We have become like the Romans, a blood thirsty society.

More on topic of college football, the Gators look like they finally found the right head coach.
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Re: Supreme Court has given the Trump administration the green light to use a federal citizenship database to verify voters Ballpeen 09/29/26 10:50 AM
The only way to control it is to have every ballot identified by SS number., limited mail-in votes, and limit the election day period.. That way it will be easier to flag ballots that are duplicate or illegally entered....dead people etc, and check ID s at the ballot box.

But then people will beach about right to privacy, which I can halfway get on board with.

I have no faith elections are up and up...and lets face it folks, perception of the populace becomes the reality.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today mgh888 09/29/26 07:53 AM
Same here and it's that way since he arrived. It's like wanting the guy you didn't vote for to do well even if you aren't ready to go stump for them.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today jfanent 09/29/26 01:47 AM
I'm enjoying the wins, but I don't think I'll ever get to this point.

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Re: Deshaun Watson today superbowldogg 09/29/26 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by jacksondawg
Nice
Plus if he plays like this his comp pick could
Ensure that we get more front seven support

we won't get a comp pick because we kicked the can down the road +1 year
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Re: Baseball vs Football George Carlin Style FORTBROWNFAN 09/28/26 10:51 PM
Classic.
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Re: The White House launches ‘Trump TV’ after media ban northlima dawg 09/28/26 10:32 PM
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 FATE 09/28/26 09:00 PM
You know you're off to a rough start when Jimmy G shows up smelling like Hawaiian Tropic.
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 IrishDawg42 09/28/26 08:58 PM
Don't be surprised if they don't stop there and add someone like Garoppolo also.
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 Dawgs4Life 09/28/26 08:39 PM
Probably a good move for NYG, even if it's just a shot in the dark. Winston seems like he's cooked
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 PitDAWG 09/28/26 08:20 PM
j/c

Giants acquired QB J.J. McCarthy in trade with Vikings so that part of the book is now closed.
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 IrishDawg42 09/28/26 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Jester
If they call they likely offer a 7th conditional to a 6th
I doubt we would get anything better than that -0my personal opinion

And you have a right to it. But I strongly disagree.

Any team they call has leverage because they need a QB worse than anyone needs to get rid of one.

I laugh and hang up at anything lower than a 4th.
Originally Posted by mgh888
Based on his actual draft position, which wasn't unreasonable considering some thought he was a 1st rounder (he wasn't but that was the hype) - the fact he has NFL experience now. . . and plus whoever calls is clearly between a rock and a hard place ... I agree the starting price would be a 4th. Just how I see any value. If Berry is chasing them to try to move Sanders - It would be a different situation.

We definitely have leverage, however we also have another thing in our back pocket, DG can come off IR as early as next week. We have a short week, so a deal for SS could happen Friday after having him eligible for TNF and activate DG for next weeks game.

Honestly, SS is who we thought he was, I would take a 5th rounder for him right now and move on. He and everyone else, is getting replaced by a first round draft pick in the upcoming draft. An extra 5th rounder for a backup is decent return, considering we spent a 5th rounder on him. He has experience, but what has he shown to say he is worth more than what we paid?

Now, all that said, I will be very surprised if the Giants even call about his availability. They will be looking in every crevice to come up with the best possible solution and I highly doubt they will come out saying, we need to trade for a second year 5th round QB that hasn't shown anything yet and has a family circus that follows him.

Dallas has more skin in the game because SS was a Cowboy once upon a time. Not that it should matter, but Jurrah would want him more than John Harbaugh will.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today mgh888 09/28/26 08:10 PM
I don't think you get compensation for players you cut.

Here's an article on his contract..

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-deshaun-watson-contract-release-2027/

Cap hit when the Browns cut him June 1st 2027:

2027: $34.7 million in dead cap
2028: $51.5 million in dead cap
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Re: Deshaun Watson today jacksondawg 09/28/26 08:01 PM
Nice
Plus if he plays like this his comp pick could
Ensure that we get more front seven support
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Baseball vs Football George Carlin Style PitDAWG 09/28/26 05:59 PM
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Re: Education oobernoober 09/28/26 05:15 PM
College, for many, has historically been something "you just go and do". You come out with a piece of paper and hopefully it works for you.


I think college, nowadays, should be viewed as an investment. There are good investments and bad investments, and bad investments will set you back. You really have to put some thought into your degree beyond how interesting it sounds. Will it help you land a higher-paying job and pay the bills? You have to think about that because you're going to have at least 1 big bill coming out of school. Obviously, scholarships can play a large role in college choices, but those can be tougher to come by and you're still likely to come out of it with loans to pay.
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Re: Random NFL News PitDAWG 09/28/26 05:03 PM
Giants acquire QB J.J. McCarthy in trade with Vikings

The New York Giants are trading for Vikings quarterback J.J. McCarthy, sending a 2027 fifth-round draft pick to Minnesota for the 2024 first-round pick.

McCarthy, taken by the Vikings with the No. 10 pick, was the third-string quarterback in Minnesota behind starter Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz.

Giants coach John Harbaugh said after Sunday's victory over the Tennessee Titans that Jameis Winston would remain the Giants' starter even if the team added another quarterback.

Winston became the starter following an injury to Jaxson Dart, who is out for at least the rest of the regular season after undergoing surgery to repair the meniscus and MCL in his left knee on Friday.

McCarthy was coached by Jim Harbaugh at Michigan and now will be coached by his brother in the NFL.

McCarthy lost his starting job with the Vikings in training camp to Murray and was demoted to third string after an ankle injury kept him out of the Vikings' final preseason game. His career with the Vikings ended with 10 starts, and his departure comes at an age -- 23 years and 9 months -- that makes him younger than most of the NFL's quarterbacks who were selected in the 2026 draft.

But a combination of injuries, poor throwing mechanics and immaturity left the Vikings unwilling to wait on the possibility of future development -- making him one of the biggest draft busts in team history. McCarthy is one of four Vikings first-round picks -- along Lewis Cine, Dimitrius Underwood and Leo Hayden -- to play 10 or fewer games for the team, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Among all NFL teams, McCarthy is one of four quarterbacks in the past 25 years to start 10 or fewer games for the team that drafted them, joining Paxton Lynch, Trey Lance and Johnny Manziel, per the Elias Sports Bureau. The list does not include Eli Manning and Philip Rivers, who were traded for each other shortly after being selected in the 2004 draft.

McCarthy's final appearance in a Vikings uniform, an Aug. 22 preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens, encapsulated his tenure. After misfiring on two throws to open receivers in the end zone, McCarthy suffered a mild ankle sprain after being hit in the pocket. He got up slowly, walked to the sideline and coach Kevin O'Connell ended his day earlier than scheduled.

Winston has struggled since replacing the injured Dart, completing just 51% of his pass attempts for 229 yards with no touchdowns and an interception.

The Giants defeated the Titans 12-7 at MetLife Stadium, despite not scoring a touchdown, to improve to 2-1 this season.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/50052864/sources-giants-acquire-qb-jj-mccarthy-trade-vikings
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 09/28/26 04:53 PM
*Like* *Love*
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 bonefish 09/28/26 04:30 PM
Tears come easier than they used to.

Maybe you understand more and know a meaningful moment when you see it.

I have been around a lot of baseball. I know what sacrifices are made. The commitment it takes from players.

Seeing that moment for a great player like Verlander brought tears to my eyes. He walks away giving the game all he had to give.

Beautiful to see him celebrate that moment with his family.
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Re: Quarterbacks IrishDawg42 09/28/26 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Darian Mensah is the first FBS quarterback in the last 30 years to have more touchdown passes (14) than incompletions (12) through his first four games.

Darian Mensah is the 1st Miami player with 3 Pass TD & a Rush TD in a first half in the last 30 seasons.

YDS
1,211

TD
14

INT
0

QBR
93.9

What else can a qb do?

His poise and control is special.

Now we just need him to go up against a team with an actual defense.

Stanford ranked 111
Florida A&M ranked 108
Wake Forest ranked 71
Central Michigan ranked 55

Clemson next up on the schedule ranked 68
Florida State after that ranked 128
THEN FINALLY... Pitt comes in at #16 nationally (Though they have played Miami OH/UCF/Syracuse/Bucknell, so might want to take that with a grain of salt)

The true test will be in a marquee matchup with Notre Dame, who is currently #1 ranked in defense. Irish have played (3) B1G teams and Rice.

Irish Vs Hurricanes will also feature CJ Carr, whom I think is a better prospect than Mensah overall.

We have to wait until November 7th to see it unfortunately!!
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 09/28/26 03:36 PM
ICYMI:

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Re: OSU/ College Football FATE 09/28/26 02:57 PM
It's only "odd" because they both happened on the same day. That's why everyone is comparing them.

To be fair (and btw, I agree with you 100 on a longer suspension for Stephans) there is no league anywhere that won't $h*t-can you for punching players multiple times, yelling at coaches and refusing to come off the field. That dude is a straight head-case and got exactly what he deserved.
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Re: OSU/ College Football PitDAWG 09/28/26 02:31 PM
It just seems odd how a player delivering and celebrating a vicious, illegal hit on an opposing QB gets a one game suspension while a different player gets an indefinite suspension for throwing fits on the sideline. That seems rather backwards.

The one game suspension for Desman Stephans doesn't seem like nearly enough for the infractions. That nasty hit was bad enough. But celebrating the hit is beyond the the pale. This is one case where I hope the NCAA steps in and gives a lengthier suspension.
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