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I’m genuinely sad for the guy despite wanting someone to get a clean lick on the guy for so many years. That guy was so slippery for being such an awkward runner. It just seemed the guy took so few satisfying hits.

Oh I get it, and I’d agree. It’s truly sad to be losing to win. Losers mentality thru and thru. But truth is, the best team we’ve had since the return came as a result tanking and hoarding high picks. I’ll never not think strategically and there’s one reality to face and one strategy to play right now. Reality: we don’t have the QB. Strategy: get the QB.

The Browns can spend every pick on OL, WR and QB and I would be happy.

We started getting All in the Family re-runs this fall on one of our oldies stations. They show two disclaimers even before the iconic opening theme song, lol, lest people get triggered.

Many people fail to understand that the Archie Bunker and Mike Stivic characters were meant to inspire healthy debate, and to poke fun at both the right and left. Same with the George Jefferson character.
Rob Reiner directed some great movies, too, but he’ll always be Meathead, to those of a certain age.

As for Trump, I’m not shocked he’d say something so classless. That’s how he operates: with zero class.

Chewing on his mouth piece..

I don't care at all

Least surprising comment of the day.

Any yet he is the President.

Good Grief...

Maybe a beer and a shot of Tennessee Bourbon before thin needles ?

Yeah, make that a double please ! lol

That's just crazy ![/quote]

Actually, it's Tennessee Whiskey. It's meets all the requirements of a bourbon, but undergoes one extra process, the Lincoln County process, its charcoal filtered.[/quote]

Peen and Pit my good old tailgate friends friends, I apologize.

My Favorite is George Dickel Bourbon Whiskey from Cascade Distillery.

It says Bourbon first then whiskey.

I know it's Kentucky Bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey, That Tennessee Whiskey comes from a charcoal filtered Bourbon. It's aged 8 years.

Our friendships are aged 25 from the Muni Island.. LOL and happy for those years.

Let's refresh your memory!

In the 13 years Haslam owned the Browns, the GMs he hired:

1. Tom Heckert;
2. Michael Lombardi;
3. Ray Farmer;
4. Sashi Brown;
5. John Dorsey;
6. Andrew Berry.

Listed are the Head Coaches hired:

1. Rob Chudzinski;
2. Mike Pettine;
3. Hue Jackson;
4. Freddie Kitchens;
5. Kevin Stefanski.

With the help of Paul DePodesta, he finally took his advice and hired Kevin Stefanski. DePodesta is no longer with the Browns. If he fires both Berry and Stefanski, Jimmy will be the primary interviewer for the next hire.

Can’t be clearer than this.

Supporters, and probably some in the leadership, speculate in the best way to lose and how other results can go their way so they’re absolutely sure to come last. That’s when you know when losing has become a natural part of their identity.

(I don’t blame anyone, I’m probably a part of all this too, this losing mentality…… it’s just so sad to see)


Better players can do much but it’s hard to change a culture who’s rotten all the way in to the core.

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We don't have to worry about the Bills game.

They will beat us like a red headed stepchild.

Steelers / Bengals?

Steelers are playing for the division. They should take care of business.

Bengals hell who knows? If it comes down to that game. I wonder how that is going to be handled behind closed doors?

Part of me says "nothing will be said but it is understood." Another part says "Haslam will somehow make his feelings known."

In the film breakdown with Chase Daniels.

Watch the line play closely.

I don't think I have seen worse. Number 72 falls on his face. How do these guys make a roster?

There is no low that is beyond trump.
What a repulsive human being.

I think there's still some ability to do so, but when you're to the point where dudes can't even get lined up then yeah... it gets real tough.

For me, I'm looking for him to slowly start being able to handle pressure (not running backward --> throwing the ball away --> beating the blitz).

This is my contention. How can we really evaluate Shedeur fairly when we probably have a bottom 3 O-Line and a less than average WR group? It certainly isn't giving him a fair shake. Our FO has a lot of very difficult and important decisions for the future of this team.

Jeudy leads the NFL with 10 drops.



Chase gives a good breakdown.

Guardians Manager Stephen Vogt Signed Multi-Year Extension
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025...en-vogt-signed-multi-year-extension.html

Royals Sign Lane Thomas
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/12/royals-to-sign-lane-thomas.html

I'm not sure we should expect straight-line improvement with SS, especially if/when the roster has as much turmoil as it did this week.

They expect better than that from their children but not their president.

Jeudy gave one away? We must have been watching a different game. He threw to him when he was covered like a blanket. Forcing the ball is exactly why he had 3 int's


So in that regard he is no different than before. Exactly.

You seem to be making claims that hold very little validity. Once again you are trying to use examples we have only seen in one game out of four.

I have no idea how deflecting to who the coach and GM will be next season has any bearing on whether the Browns need to finally find an answer at the QB position because according to all indications they certainly don't have one now.

Are our WR's less than needed? Yes they are. Yet once again that has nothing to do with poorly thrown passes or throwing the ball into coverage. Jeudy has dropped a couple of passes, but it's not as prevalent as you are making it sound. He's made some really good catches as well. We are in agreement that's he's certainly not a #1 NFL WR.

Last week Sanders quickly looked for and dumped it off to the short option. This week he had the deer in the headlights look like he had before.

Like I said, this week didn't look much different than his first start and what he did in only one of four starts changes none of that.

HE IS A DISCUSTING HUMAN. Hey maga tell your kids to be like him so they can grow up to be president.

President Trump blamed the late Rob Reiner's death Monday on the director's political views, saying he died from a "mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME."

Why it matters: The president and MAGA allies condemned anyone who celebrated conservative activist Charlie Kirk's death earlier this year, slamming them for encouraging political violence against ideological opponents.

What he said: In a Monday morning post on Truth Social, Trump cast Reiner" as "a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star."

Reiner, Trump said, "passed away, together with his wife, Michele, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS."

"He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump Administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness ... perhaps like never before."

"May Rob and Michele rest in peace!"

Catch up quick: Reiner and his wife, Michele, were found dead this weekend, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass confirmed in a Sunday evening post on X.

The LAPD is investigating the deaths at Reiner's home as a homicide and has the couple's son, Nick Reiner, in custody, according to police documents.

Rob Reiner directed American classics such as "The Princess Bride," "When Harry Met Sally" and "Stand by Me."

Zoom in: "This is a devastating loss for our city and our country," Bass said.

"Rob Reiner's contributions reverberate throughout American culture and society, and he has improved countless lives through his creative work and advocacy fighting for social and economic justice."

"An acclaimed actor, director, producer, writer, and engaged political activist, he always used his gifts in service of others."

Between the lines: Reiner was a persistent Trump critic, once calling him "mentally unfit" and "the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States."

He also faulted the mainstream media for not holding the president "accountable," asserting that "major outlets" serve as "propaganda for an American president."

The intrigue: Trump's post came hours after conservative figures began to compare reactions to the Reiners' deaths to Kirk's murder in September, originally insisting that the right wouldn't cheer someone's homicide.

"You won't see people on the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and his wife," Turning Point USA activist Jack Posobiec posted on X Sunday evening.

"Compare to the Left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder."

Zoom out: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Trump ally who's been increasingly breaking with the president in the past few months, condemned the president's reaction on X on Monday.

"Rob Reiner and his wife were tragically killed at the hands of their own son, who reportedly had drug addiction and other issues, and their remaining children are left in serious mourning and heartbreak. This is a family tragedy, not about politics or political enemies."

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) also slammed the president in a X post on Monday, saying that "regardless of how you felt about Rob Reiner, this is inappropriate and disrespectful discourse about a man who was just brutally murdered. I guess my elected GOP colleagues, the VP, and White House staff will just ignore it because they're afraid? I challenge anyone to defend it."

The White House did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment on Massie's statement.

https://www.axios.com/2025/12/15/trump-rob-reiner-death-tds-charlie-kirk

As if we needed it, even more evidence of what a human piece of trash trump is. Or as some call it, just another day at The White House. Minus the East Wing of course.

The positives are in the pocket.

He is not retreating like he was earlier. His pocket awareness is improving. He has used mobility and ran the ball himself when it was appropriate.

He is throwing balls away and not forcing the ball. Although in this game he made some dumb throws. Jeudy gave one away. One was a good defensive play. One was terrible. He has made some good deep throws and some nice touch throws. He needs better ball placement on check downs.

Chemistry between quarterback and receivers is not going to happen in three starts. Especially when guys are coming and going.

Thrash was released. Tillman has been in one week out the next. Larvadain?? Jeudy needs stickem smeared from forearms to fingertips.

A run game would help. We were trailing early and the lead got beyond two scores fast. That is not a good formula for a rookie to be in shotgun on every play. The OL is a mess.

Field position. Please. Special Teams they have run out of excuses. The Browns traveling to play a playoff team fighting to win the division with this team is a tough ask.

I don't feel any different from last week. Shedeur is a maybe. I would always want a plan B. If there is a quarterback that the Browns decide they like and he is there. It would be foolish not to draft the guy.

I have not really looked at the quarterbacks in college other than some highlights. So, I don't have an opinion yet.

First things first. Who will be the GM and HC? What is the draft order?

* One quarterback that I like is John Mateer. If he comes out he might be a second rounder. He has lots to refine. But, I really like his potential.