I suppose you have no idea what the saying "Hold my beer" means. Still nothing to support your claim that the man they hired to replace Bubba will be any better. He's never held this position before. You just keep on making noise with no substance to back it up.
Somehow you keep insisting that the talent on the field had nothing to do with it. Same as it ever was.
You keep speaking about the end result. I keep reminding you of all the horrible things they did in the name of God to get there. I know the truth is not within you so I expect no less. I'll ask you this yet again................
If you need more houses and ground for your family as your children become grown and you decide that killing your neighbors and taking over their homes and land is the best way to accomplish that, does that mean you "conquered them"? Does that make you the "winner"? Does that mean since you won you deserve the spoils?
It sounds a little different when somebody puts it that way doesn't it? But I guess since it was white men doing it to another race that makes it perfectly acceptable to you.
There you go when your argument goes south and you have nothing else to claim just blame race. In the history of the world all land and that means every square inch of the world was conquered. The United States is not an exception to that rule. That is why we have a military to protect our land. Just like we own guns and have police to protect our persons, homes, and property. The United States of America is the greatest country in the history of the world. It even allows morons to spout stupid ideas like socialism and give up the only freedoms man has ever known in the history of the world. In the USA if you own a home, you are in the top 5% of the richest people in the world. Yet morons want to give up the American dream for what they call fairness. There is nothing fair in socialism. It is giving your freedom to an elitist, and you become a peasant. Those morons need to get off their butt and work. Make something of themselves. The middle class is only attainable in a Capitalistic country. Now back to the original topic; The Indians fought wars and conquered each other's lands for centuries before the Europeans entered the scene. That "stealing of each other's lands had nothing to do with race. It was about conquering and processing for their tribes. Then they were defeated by a superior military force and lost their land, and a new owner of that land took possession. Then that owner was defeated by their own people who formed their own country. One nation under God with individual rights for all. Conquering land here was just like every country in the world that came into existence. Until they were conquered. It happened long time before you were born. get over it!!!
Because both have demonstrated track records of arresting people in their countries for saying things on social media. Not violent or threatening things, but merely things their government thinks is "mean"; they just call it "hate speech" and people get arrested.
Hate speech is a crime in the UK. But you will have to provide some receipts for those claims that seem to trivialise what people have said to get arrested.
I do know that a lady was arrested for telling an angry mob to burn down a hotel housing immigrants. Which is a little bit more than what you've suggested.
Judge blocks Pentagon from downgrading Sen. Mark Kelly's military rank, pay
A federal judge on Thursday blocked the Pentagon from downgrading the military retirement rank and pay of Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona, finding that the government had "trampled on Senator Kelly's First Amendment freedoms."
A retired Navy captain, Kelly drew the Trump administration's ire after he and five other Democratic lawmakers posted a video urging members of the military to "refuse illegal orders."
U.S. District Judge Richard Leon's order prohibits the Defense Department and the Trump administration from taking any adverse action against Kelly to reduce his retirement rank and pay.
"This Court has all it needs to conclude that Defendants have trampled on Senator Kelly's First Amendment freedoms and threatened the constitutional liberties of millions of military retirees," Leon wrote. "After all, as Bob Dylan famously said, 'You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.'"
Leon's ruling comes a month after Kelly sued Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, arguing that he was the target of "extreme rhetoric and punitive retribution" by the Trump administration.
Kelly asked Leon to set aside Hegseth's recent moves to demote him and cut his military pension, and to block the enforcement of any punishment against him.
Leon's decision came two days after federal prosecutors in U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro's office failed to secure an indictment against Kelly and the other Democratic lawmakers who appeared in the video. Prosecutors had hoped to charge them with violating a federal law that makes it a crime to counsel or cause "insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or reversal of duty" by military members, sources previously told CBS News.
Kelly and his colleagues came under fierce criticism by the Trump administration after they posted the video in November. The video was published amid the military buildup around Venezuela and strikes against alleged drug boats. The other five Democrats were also either military veterans or members of the intelligence community, but they have not faced any adverse action from the Defense Department because they do not draw retirement pay from the U.S. military.
Soon after the video was published, President Trump and Hegseth lambasted the lawmakers for the comments, with the president claiming that their statements amounted to "SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!"
Hegseth claimed Kelly's statements "undermined the chain of command" and constituted "conduct unbecoming an officer." The Pentagon announced it was conducting a review of misconduct allegations against Kelly to determine whether he should be recalled to active duty to face court-martial proceedings.
The Defense Department said in December it was escalating its review into a command investigation. Hegseth then announced that the Pentagon had "initiated retirement grade determination proceedings" that could result in a "reduction in his retired grade" and "a corresponding reduction in retired pay." Hegseth also said he issued a formal letter to censure Kelly, citing his "reckless misconduct."
In a statement, Kelly said Leon's order "made clear that Pete Hegseth violated the constitution when he tried to punish me for something I said. But this case was never just about me. This administration was sending a message to millions of retired veterans that they too can be censured or demoted just for speaking out. That's why I couldn't let it stand."
"I also know that this might not be over yet, because this President and this administration do not know how to admit when they're wrong," Kelly continued. "One thing is for sure: however hard the Trump administration may fight to punish me and silence others, I will fight ten times harder. This is too important."
CBS News has reached out to the Defense Department and Justice Department for comment.
At a recent court hearing, Leon grilled the Justice Department and expressed strong reservations about the Pentagon's efforts. Active-duty military officers typically face limitations on their right to free speech to promote discipline and obedience, but the military is now seeking to extend those limits to retired service members like Kelly.
"That's never been done," Leon told Justice Department attorney John Bailey during the Feb. 3 hearing, adding that the government did not have a single case to support the argument.
"You're asking me to do something that the Supreme Court has never done," Leon said. "That's a bit of a stretch, is it not?"
In his ruling on Thursday, Leon reiterated those concerns again.
"Secretary Hegseth relies on the well-established doctrine that military servicemembers enjoy less vigorous First Amendment protections given the fundamental obligation for obedience and discipline in the armed forces," Leon wrote.
"Unfortunately for Secretary Hegseth, no court has ever extended those principles to retired servicemembers, much less a retired servicemember serving in Congress and exercising oversight responsibility over the military. This Court will not be the first to do so!"
You keep speaking about the end result. I keep reminding you of all the horrible things they did in the name of God to get there. I know the truth is not within you so I expect no less. I'll ask you this yet again................
If you need more houses and ground for your family as your children become grown and you decide that killing your neighbors and taking over their homes and land is the best way to accomplish that, does that mean you "conquered them"? Does that make you the "winner"? Does that mean since you won you deserve the spoils?
It sounds a little different when somebody puts it that way doesn't it? But I guess since it was white men doing it to another race that makes it perfectly acceptable to you.
Ventrone was fired by the Browns on Jan. 29th. He was hired to the same job by the Rams on Feb. 2nd. He was out of a job for exactly four days.
It seems the rams identified what the problem was and it wasn't Ventrone.
You'll have to forgive me if I trust the opinion reached by one of the top rated teams in the NFL over posters on a message board.
You are also trusting the team that fired their last ST Coach mid-season and lost in the playoffs to a ST blunder. The Browns improved letting Bubba hit the road.
I would like to remind you of something. When you leave your home to go on a trip, you have a clear direction in which you must head to reach your destination. With each passing mile you get closer to that destination. We are traveling down that road with a clear direction. We are rapidly passing those mile markers.
Showing how we're traveling down that road in the exact same direction, headed towards that same destination isn't to deflect or minimize anything. It's just a heads up for those who refuse to read the warning signs.
You don't start out where you end up. There are many miles between those two points. Wherever you go, there you are. We're getting closer and closer to being there.
I'm pretty sure I am WAY more familiar with the U.C.M.J. than you, and I also know that it is a Mandatory Duty to obey lawful orders and regulations, as well as the FACT that ALL ORDERS are PRESUMED LAWFUL unless they contradict the Constitution. PERIOD.
1. What in the Hell does any of that have to do with anything other than you just want to deflect from the statement and minimize it? The U.K. and Australia are NOT any sort of valid benchmark on free speech. Period.
2. If you have to wonder how it is different, I suggest you look at what people are being arrested for in the U.K. these days.... you can literally be arrested if someone reports something of yours as "causing annoyance/anxiety". You'd probably be doing Life without Parole if we had that in the U.S.
Yes, they were saying to follow the law........................
U.S. military personnel are legally obligated to obey lawful orders but must refuse unlawful or illegal orders, a principle rooted in the Constitution, the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) Article 92
Something Mark Kelly spent his entire military career adhering to. Something that had been brought into question under this president.
I think anyone that doesn't see that is fooling themselves no matter what words they wish to label that with.
Being a vegetarian has been a trend for some time now. They claim it's much healthier. For some reason they think it's something that has become popular over the past couple of generations as though it's something relatively new. But it isn't.
The word was created hundreds of year ago by the Native Americans of North America. The definition for vegetarian was "bad hunter".
ahh, I am not sure it it's both sides this time Purp.. Hegseth started it when the brought generals and admirals into a meeting talked to them about following order and if you don't think you can, retire and we will wish you well on your way out. Trump was not better when he spoke on the subject either....
Whether you like it or not, whether you acknowledge it or not, what Hegseth said was 100% correct to say, and also is no different than any other administration except that it was made into an event and it REALLY is a non-event.
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That I think was the reason these 6 people felt the need to do that video. I've not seen any other time that anyone felt it was important to set up a video like that.
No, that merely provided the opportunity for their grandstanding. Do not delude yourself into thinking it was anything more than that, because there is a 0% chance of it being anything more.
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Be that as it may, they didn't nothing wrong... It just chapped Trump and Hegseths ass.....That is what they are guilty of..... And I applaud the effort
They VERY carefully walked the line which is why a grand jury is correct to decline it because proving the subversive intent is nearly impossible. It chapped my ass, too, because they all knew EXACTLY what they were really saying while ignoring that all of the orders being given were 100% lawful. This wasn't a benign statement, it was pure b.s. - and yes, grandstanding. Political theatrics.
I don't believe that political grandstanding is the same thing as trying to indict people falsely on felony charges. This isn't the first time they've done this just lately. It's becoming a pattern with them.
I just wonder how that's so different than going after Mark Kelly? I wonder how that is so different than trump ordering his political enemies to be prosecuted by the DOJ and them doing directly what he told them?
I mean I get the fact that he doesn't directly throw them in jail so that part is different. Unless of course you're a journalist covering a protest. But let's be honest here. As of late they have been labeling people "domestic terrorists" so how far away from that are we really?
People are at the very least being indicted, or attempted to be indicted for political reasons right here, right now. We are not so different than them.
ahh, I am not sure it it's both sides this time Purp.. Hegseth started it when the brought generals and admirals into a meeting talked to them about following order and if you don't think you can, retire and we will wish you well on your way out. Trump was not better when he spoke on the subject either.... That I think was the reason these 6 people felt the need to do that video. I've not seen any other time that anyone felt it was important to set up a video like that.
Be that as it may, they didn't nothing wrong... It just chapped Trump and Hegseths ass.....That is what they are guilty of..... And I applaud the effort
Because both have demonstrated track records of arresting people in their countries for saying things on social media. Not violent or threatening things, but merely things their government thinks is "mean"; they just call it "hate speech" and people get arrested.
I have to laugh and I have to disagree, remember what the Crusades were?... Europeans under the sanction of religion trying to retake disputed land. Except in the case of American expansion the land was not even disputed, it was just taken.
God is a common excuse to commit genocide. No matter what the teaching of Christ or the Bible says.
Which is exactly the same thing they did here. Claiming the senseless slaughter and stealing the land from Native Americans was somehow ordained by God...........
Manifest Destiny, coined sometime before 1820, is the idea that the United States is destined—by God, its advocates believed—to expand its dominion and spread democracy and capitalism across the entire North American continent. The philosophy drove 19th-century U.S. territorial expansion and was used to justify the forced removal of Native Americans and other groups from their homes. The rapid expansion of the United States intensified the issue of slavery as new states were added to the Union, leading to the outbreak of the Civil War.
As you can see by some of the replies on this very board they lie about it, claim that's not what happened and think claiming that somehow by calling it "conquered", it changes the facts of what actually happened.
No wonder they don't want our children taught the truth in their history classes at school.
I find the entire thing hilarious. The very people who claim the other side are the people who get #triggered and are #snowflakes had a total meltdown over a halftime show. And the headliner of their "alternative half time show" was so triggered over a trans person doing a Bud Light ad on the internet he broke out his automatic rifle and shot up a case of Bud Light. Yes, they selected him as their poster boy......
Single you out? I thought we were having a discussion between the two of us not that either of us was "singling each other out".
And as for the speaking Spanish part of it. Maybe I didn't type the right message.
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You know very well I have complained about people coming to this country without knowing English. I'm guilty as charged lol To me personally it's disrespectful and something I myself would never do.
What I'm trying to tell you is that Puerto Rico IS part of The United States. Americans who live, reside and are born in Puerto Rico? Their native language IS Spanish. That means the native language of these American citizens is Spanish. How is it any more disrespectful that those Americans don't learn your language than you not learning theirs?
