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I see both arguments for trading Myles and not trading him but personally I would hate to trade our best player and weaken what is a strength of our team the D.

OK, it seems like some in here are at least open to a trade option. Would this work for anyone?

49ers get Myles Garrett, 2026 5th #148 and 2028 3rd

Browns would get Mykel Williams (2025 first round pick that had his ACL tear last season, not sure when he will be available in 2026, but he would be a future replacement for Myles albeit at a lower level), #27 in 2026, 2027 first and 2029 or 2030 first if the new rule gets amended.

Why it works for the 49ers. They are in Super Bowl mode right now. They are trying to get past the Seahawks and Rams. Garrett could be that player to do that.

Why it works for the Browns. Like it or not, the moves made so far will not take the offense into the top ten realm. Unless Sanders becomes something we haven't seen to day, they will never get to that top ten realm..

Reality, the higher the Browns are in the 2027 draft, the better positioned they are to draft their QB. ONE of the picks needs to be in the top ten to even have a chance. Even though I and everyone in Berea would prefer Sanders be an anomaly and be that starter we all hope for... it is much more likely we need to draft someone in 2027. Myles Garrett actually hurts those chances more than he helps them. Having a Mykel Williams waiting in the wings for the 2027 season would improve the chances of not only getting the QB in 2027, but closing the gap faster once he is in place.

It is now at +700 as of this morning.

For 2027:

PRE-6/1 TRADE
2027 Dead Cap: $24,956,225
2027 Savings: $2,841,550

POST 6/1 TRADE
2027 Dead Cap: $11,741,000
2028 Dead Cap: $13,215,225
2027 Savings: $16,056,775


For more palatable than 2026.

Not sure if this is updated Spotrac numbers but:


PRE-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $40,290,225
2026 Savings: $-16,816,225



POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $44,534,000
2027 Dead Cap: $24,956,225
2026 Savings: $-21,060,000


That's not impossible. Unlikely, but not impossible. I wonder what a restructure would do to adjust that dead cap even more?

Just to be clear- I'm not advocating for a trade, but sharing information.

Good thing I locked in my bet for DeLauter ROY (+1200) before yesterday's game!

It could get interesting if the season does not go as planned at the trade deadline!!! I think with the division being as wide open as it has been in quite some time the Browns feel with an improved Oline and some new weapons the offense can show decent improvement this team can contend in the AFC North. If they don't get assets for 2027 draft may be top priority. That draft is supposed to be loaded at QB, WR, and DE. All premium positions.

All this while the Browns are proposing the draft capital change when making trades. I'm not saying you are trading him in 2026, but it does feel like it leaves options open beyond that, maybe.

When the Browns were going through the hiring process for their head coach.

I am sure that Monken was asked about his vision for the immediate future. No doubt that he was asked about Sanders and Myles.

He has made it clear what life was like as the Ravens OC preparing to face Myles. He made it known about how Myles impacted games.

So Monken was hired.

They are not going to trade Myles and then tell Monken "go win some games without your best player."

Thx.

What a day walking around and my mind kept repeating. "My daughter is a doctor."

Her brother I coached in baseball for over ten years. We shared some great moments together.

Work was always a method to make money. Being a father has always been my joy.

I agree. The way I look at it - With Myles, we aren't winning in 2026/27. We probably aren't a contender in 2027/28. I would absolutely look at what potential trade partners would offer. A first this year and next and a second rounder for next year would probably seriously tempt me. 2027 draft class looks very strong. A trade back from #6 to anywhere from 11-20 and an extra 1st next year would give us three 1st round picks in 2027. Obviously you have to then make good selections - but that gives a rebuilding team the surest opportunity/highest odds of turning the team around.

I understand the rationale of not trading your best player away - but the Browns, like it or not, are 100% in rebuild mode. That changes the decision making.

We just need to make sure they are pretty much neutered completely. We have been dorking around with that regime for over 40 years.

Better this that giving them $billions so they can fund their proxies around the globe. LOL, and to think some people around here insisted we were still in control of the money.

I don't know. Having a contract in hand gives potential teams an idea of cost.

As for trading Myles, I am inclined to at least listen. We are in a position to draft an edge if you want at #6. Myles would bring at least 3 picks. Maybe not all 3 this year, but that could go a long way to fixing many of our holes.

If you take the emotion out of the thought process, it makes a lot of sense.

To me - this is like a symptom of Trump. I don't know if I can explain this very well - but he's conducting himself in the same way with Iran that he has with every other major talking point or policy. He fires from the hip, he contradicts himself, he says one thing then does another .... when it winds up the Democrats and "libtards" on immigration or the border or tariffs or whatever - then the R's love it. Think it's genius. Think that he's scripted it all out to get what he wants ...

With Iran there have been constant contradictions. Go back 9 months or whatever and their Nuclear capability and enriched uranium was completely and utterly obliterated. That's changed now. We've won. That's changed now. Their ability to launch missiles was destroyed. That changed. Regime change with Trump influencing the successor was the goal - that has changed now. No wars - that has changed now (Bigly). Rubio said that it was Israel that forced our hand - that changed quickly (no doubt because it made Trump look weak).

I do think that at the end of the day the market - the economy - Trump and Trump's circle of associates making money is the single most important thing to Trump (other than his image/ego). I think when markets tank - he reacts. IN some cases I think he clearly enables others (and himself) to profit from his reaction. $1/2 Billion bet on oil futures in a QUANTUM spike in trades ... minutes before his last announcement. That might explain some of what we have seen.

But the reality is - driven by ego - he may also think that he has egg on his face after declaring he is negotiating with Iran. I mean that was a contradiction inside the space of 2 paragraphs: There's no-one left to talk to, they are all dead. We are talking to a top guy, the negotiations are going great. . . . and then Iranian sources (everywhere) mocked him and said there is no negotiation and increased their military strikes on Israel and neighbors.

We could see boots on the ground and an escalation. We might see a claim that objectives are complete and he backs out claiming a win. We could see his 15 point negotiation (where points 1-2-3 are all "never have nuclear weapons" !!) put in place - and essentially something similar to the Obama deal that he trashed in his first term put back in place ... we just don't know. I am not sure he knows.

I do think that the wanna-be He-Man Hegseth thinks this is some sort of video game and has zero regard for loss of life or long term consequences and all he wants to do it flex and show the world how mighty the US military is.

OMG, Fate’s gone rogue on us.

Or…….
Has he?

I scored the zero

Congrats to you and your daughter buddy.

I am anti-trade when it comes to Garrett, however, there is a price for anyone. You can’t have a veteran trade for picks discussion without talking about Herschel Walker. He was untouchable, until he wasn’t.

The question isn’t can/should they trade a future HOF Myles Garrett. He’s already enshrined in the Browns ring of fire and a first ballot HOF. The question is, what is the breaking point of one player vs team building? Again, love Garrett, but he is living proof a single player doesn’t get you a trophy.

What is that number? 1 starter and (3) first rounders? (4) first rounders? Hell, at his age, the final picks of the trade will just be starting around Myles start of his decline due to age. We have Garrett for 2 more prime years, then it’s all about how long the body holds out to keep him better than average. Do we have a shot in the next two years without a QB? This is where my inner conundrum starts to take over.

DeLauter with his 2nd career HR in his regular season 1st game.

Went out to lunch, saw the beginning of the Pirates/Mets game. Rough start for the Pirates. Skenes didn't make it out of the first. Center fielder let one get over his head, lost another fly ball in sun. First pitch from the relief pitcher, the catcher misses it and the runners advance.

Chase DeLauter with the 1st ining HR.

My thoughts, crazy as they may be, is that you use the draft to try to find great players. Odds are not great that the players you would draft with picks that aren't top 5-10, will not be HOF caliber. Right now we have one.

It doesn't make sense to me unless, on top of 3 1st round picks, you get at least 2 solid, very solid starters. Keep your best player, who is a generational talent, and build around the team.

Just my 2 cents, 7.5 cents adjusted for inflation.

Yep. The background sounds of summer.

Great to have Opening Day upon us.

So today just after the stock market bell closed trump again extended the deadline with Iran-this time for 10 days till April 6.
Just after the Nasdaq moved into correction territory after taking another bath today.

Somebody on CNN referred to one of the financial services companies and their advise to their advisors based on the trump taco chart. Every time it the market is pricing in whatever "strategy" trump is working on at that present time and the market it crapping, they advise their investors that trumo is going to change his mind. Their chart said this afternoon that trump was going to change on Iran and not bomb the energy or power plants.

But I have to wonder, is this just market manipulation, are the talks really progressing or is an attack coming sooner or later?

Also Axios is reporting tonight that a ground invasion seems imminent at some point and we are expanding areas that we could attack with ground forces.

And in that meeting yesterday, alot of people with R after their name were really pissed off at what is coming. Nancy Mace said that we want to send in the troops. They say that this is a red line in the sand-I don't think they have the guts to agree with the dems on some oversight on this or to cut he purse strings.

Thanks 3rd.

An interesting sidebar. My daughters 7th grade son was tested nationally just the other day. He has been in advanced science and math for two years.

On the national test for English vocabulary the test scale was 0 - 880.

He scored 880.

I feel like Homer Simpson although I do have a degree.