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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based IrishDawg42 03/31/26 10:01 AM
When it comes to Desean Watson, this is what I see as the most likely outcome. He wins the battle, starts two games. He looks great, but gets hurt, nothing season ending, but keeps him out for about 10 weeks. Browns start out 1-1.

Sanders replaces him and looks like we all thought he would, hoped he would be better, but isn’t. We are convinced he is no the QB of the future. Wins 2 out of 10 games.

At 3-9, Watson returns healthy. Looks as great as he did the first two games, The Browns finish the season on a 5 game win streak. Finish the season 8-9. No hope for a playoff, but hope that Watson could be the QB everyone wanted.

Then he gives them the middle finger on his way to free agency as he signs with the next big chump willing to give him more than he is worth.

I hate being negative, it isn’t part of my DNA, except when it comes to Watson.

I can see him being just good enough to ruin our season of what could have been and also winning just enough to ruin our chances of getting a QB in the 2027 draft. At 8-9, it’s possible we would be picking in the 11-28 range. Just out of reach of moving up far enough to get one of them without the option of trading 5 years worth of first round picks.
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Ballpeen 03/31/26 09:43 AM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
I wouldn’t be against DW starting if he proves to be the better QB, which may happen.
I’d prefer SS take the job outright with his play because we’d have our future QB.

Watson is 30. For a QB that is still young enough for him to be considered your future QB. While unlikely, it isn't out of the question of him playing another 9-10 years. Even 5-6 years is far better than anything we have seen over the last 15 years or so. It's been like the Browns have been running a QB of the month club.
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Re: Trump administration denounces CNN for airing messages from Iranian leaders mgh888 03/31/26 08:55 AM



This is a brilliant and well worth a 15 minute watch no matter what our politics, as it makes solid points while being somewhat entertaining. It's about censorship in general - so stuck it here.
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Re: Trump's Third Term? mgh888 03/31/26 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
There will never be another 3 term president.

The fear mongering never stops.

Pay attention to who is doing the fear mongering ... right? That would be (in this case - and Trump himself at other times) Steve Bannon.
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based lampdogg 03/31/26 08:23 AM
I wouldn’t be against DW starting if he proves to be the better QB, which may happen.
I’d prefer SS take the job outright with his play because we’d have our future QB.
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Ballpeen 03/31/26 02:32 AM
I'd say the chances are slim. However, Watson could beat out Shedufus, so who knows? If he played well, I wouldn't be against it.
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Re: Trump's Third Term? superbowldogg 03/31/26 01:40 AM
Meanwhile...

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Re: Trump's Third Term? superbowldogg 03/31/26 01:23 AM
There will never be another 3 term president.

The fear mongering never stops.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 03/31/26 12:00 AM
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Re: Myles Razorthorns 03/30/26 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
Myles is untradable because he has a no trade clause. The only teams that would be able to make a trade worth him are all teams Myles would never agree to go to. Completely untradable.

I don't know what you mean?

There probably isn't a team in the league who wouldn't want Myles. If you are talking about value to us from a pick standpoint, obviously a team with a pick in the late 20's or more would have to pony up more over a team projected to have a top 10 pick.

You have to remember, if and when we trade Myles, we would be trading him. We wouldn't be including any of our own picks.

The bare minimum trade for Myles should be three number 1 picks. Myles wants to be traded to a contender not a loser. 3 first round picks from say Seattle are pretty much garbage vs say 3 from the jets. Myles can block any trade to a team that sucks and has picks worth taking. I just can't see ANY team offering what it would take to get Myles that Myles would agree to go to. Thus he is untradeable.
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Razorthorns 03/30/26 11:00 PM
You know ... it's ALWAYS a possibility that the Watson was bad because he didn't fit Kevin's very strict system. The one who lit it up with Kevin were the ones who ignored him like Flacco and Winston. What if we discover that the problem wasn't Watson but Kevin? We might find out if they keep the competition TRUE and let the best QB win. What if Monken returns Watson to his original glory?

I admit I would rather Sanders rise to the top after a brutally tough competition. Sanders has potential if he can speed up his game. Can he even learn the playbook in time though? I am not sure. He is a media darling who seem to know all the right things to say but he seems a bit slow in learning the playbook and reading defenses. He needs to focus more on improving his craft than paying attention to his public image. I would love to see him refocus and explode this year and lay all doubt to rest.
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Squires 03/30/26 10:15 PM
If Watson gets an extension without winning a Super Bowl, I am done with this team.
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Re: Random NFL News Squires 03/30/26 10:14 PM
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Re: Give me a break Squires 03/30/26 10:08 PM
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Milk Man 03/30/26 09:50 PM
All is right in the world, now.

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Re: Browns News 6.0 IrishDawg42 03/30/26 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Milk Man


This coming just after Berry spoke with reporters and said the Garrett contract and this rule were totally unrelated, but didn't mention they withdrew the rule change.

Looks like they knew they didn't have the 24 votes needed, so they withdrew it instead of having a failed change on the record.
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Re: Myles IrishDawg42 03/30/26 05:38 PM
Well, that's that...until it isn't. I don't think we should waste any more energy on it though.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Milk Man 03/30/26 05:30 PM
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Re: Give me a break PitDAWG 03/30/26 05:10 PM
He's too busy playing with Mounds at Lois Lane's house. He doesn't understand that she's an Almond Joy bar. Sometimes she feels like a nut and sometimes she don't.
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Re: Give me a break jfanent 03/30/26 05:04 PM
Sounds like we need "Clark" Kent to get to the bottom of this.
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Re: Myles PitDAWG 03/30/26 05:02 PM
Andrew Berry confirms the Browns aren’t trading Myles Garrett, ‘a career Brown,’ in the wake of contract tweak

PHOENIX — General manager Andrew Berry confirmed at the NFL owners meeting Sunday that the Browns aren’t trading reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year Myles Garrett in the wake of contract modifications last week.

In fact, Berry seemed a little irked by the question during an interview with a small group of Browns beat writers covering the meetings.

Cleveland.com broke the news last Wednesday after the restructure was reported that the Browns have no plans to trade him. It’s the corollary to last year, when Berry steadfastly refused to trade Garrett despite his contentious demand to go elsewhere to win a Super Bowl.

“Myles is a career Brown,” Berry said. “He’s one of the faces of our organization. I think we’ve been very clear both past and present in terms of our goals. I understand all the questions. I’ll be honest, I don’t really want to waste a ton more breath on the topic.”

Pressed on why he wouldn’t trade such a valuable asset when it could help the Browns dig out of their hole, Berry indicated that the Browns don’t want to part with the best defensive player in the NFL when they’re on the cusp of contending.

They fielded a championship-caliber defense in 2025, and are upgrading their offense this offseason under new coach Todd Monken.

“We’ll always do what we think is in the best interest of the organization,” Berry said. “We really like our core. I think as we look at the team, we have an elite young defense. We have a really rebuilt offensive line. We have nine picks this upcoming draft and I think seven are in the top 150. Three in the top 40.

“We have a good offensive young core that we brought in last year. And honestly, as we saw last year, there are more than one way to generate assets in the NFL. So we’ll always do what’s best for the organization, but we feel really good about our roster right now before the draft.”



As for why he revised the contract — which among other things delayed Garrett’s option bonuses over the next three seasons from March to September — he declined to say.

The revisions give the Browns cap flexibility, and also make him easier to trade, even though they’re not moving him.

“Standard practice, I don’t comment on player contracts,” he said. “I guess probably the easiest thing to say is, if we wanted to trade Myles, we wouldn’t need to make a contract adjustment, so it doesn’t have anything to do with that.”

Asked if he feels they’re in a good spot with Garrett, he said, “We do.”

He indicated, however, that Garrett probably won’t participate much in the Browns offseason program, which begins April 7, two weeks earlier for teams with a new head coach. The Browns not only have a new coach in Monken, but Garrett also has a new defensive coordinator in Mike Rutenberg.

“It’s a voluntary program, so I’d imagine he’d do his same schedule, that type of thing,” Berry said of Garrett.

Garrett, who agreed to a four-year contract extension last March through 2030 worth $40 million a year, secured a no-trade clause in his contract along with that extension, and had to agree to these changes, which were finalized on Tuesday.

In essence, Garrett’s options bonuses in 2026, 2027 and 2028 have been pushed back from March to September, giving the Browns a six-month break on the cap in each of those years.

Previously, the Browns would’ve had to exercise the options by the 15th day of the league year, which was March 25 this year.

Now, they have until seven days before the regular season in each of those seasons to do so.

Garrett would’ve been paid $10 million in 2026, $13 million in 2027, and $7 million in 2028 within a month of the option being exercised in March. Now, he’ll wait six months for the bonuses, but the Browns have also modified the payout in a way that benefits Garrett.

In addition, the Browns converted $8 million of Garrett’s $30 million base salaries in 2029 and 2030 to roster bonuses to be paid out early in the league year.

Speculation that the revisions signaled a possible trade stemmed from the fact that Garrett said toward the end of the season that he wasn’t up for more rebuilding and that he wants to win now.

“I quote Maxx (Crosby),” he said of the Raiders All-Pro edge rusher the Thursday before the season finale in Cincinnati. “I’m committed to winning and as long as the team and the organization are doing so — they’re committed to that same thing — then I’m all on board. But if we’re thinking anything other than winning -- tanking or rebuilding -- it’s not me.”

When his beloved defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz quit after being passed over for the head coach job in favor of Monken, Garrett posted a photo of a fast-food worker sitting on a bench with her head down.

But the Browns were in close contact with Garrett during the coaching search, and at the start of free agency two weeks ago, and he remains committed to the team.

The restructure also comes less than a week after the Browns submitted a proposal to the NFL to enable trades of draft picks to extend five years instead of three. Some are connecting the dots between that move and the Garrett news.

But Berry explained that the two events are not connected, and that the proposal is designed to foster more flexibility and creativity in the NFL trade market.

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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Homewood Dog 03/30/26 04:23 PM
LOL 😂
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based PitDAWG 03/30/26 04:00 PM
That's what husbands say while they're out looking for a hooker. naughtydevil
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Re: Browns GM Andrew Berry: ‘No rule against extending’ Deshaun Watson’s contract; QB battle is performance-based Homewood Dog 03/30/26 03:50 PM
Well Pit, at least we're keeping all our options open!! thumbsup
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