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And I'm not trying to present it as some major catastrophe waiting to be unleashed. If that was the impression people got that isn't what I meant. I simply meant that in the end there is a price left to pay and it does have a certain amount of consequences involved.

I wouldn't rule it out. I will say Berry exhausts all options and really beats the bushes.

I'm just not sure where he would go with that. The OL could surely use an upgrade but then he just invested heavily in the OL and it seems to me he would let the season play out to see how it all meshes and how they develop as a unit before toying even further with it.

I tend to agree with bone that there is a lot of talent already on this roster and they're pretty much just a QB away. But at the same time if berry sees a bargain where he thinks there is a chance to upgrade I don't see him walking away from it.

I agree.

The Watson trade happened. Unless someone has that time machine stashed away, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it. I think Haslam is of the same mind, otherwise Berry wouldn't be in Berea anymore. I'm not sure how much they actually believed they could stock a competitive roster with Watson sucking and not having all those draft picks, but they operated in a way that lessened the most severe impact of the Watson contract.

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I see us sitting back and waiting for potential trade partners come to us.

I could see Berry trading Jeudy away if a team came calling and we got a sweet offer. We got him for a 5th and a 6th, so if someone dangled a 4th or better I could see us moving him (buy low, sell high). There's a non-zero chance he turns back into a pumpkin next season (last on his contract).

If a guy out of the Gabriel/Sanders/Green mix were to somehow set himself apart, I could see us moving one of them, but I don't expect the market to be great (best case is we get back the pick we used to draft them... likely not even that for Gabriel). I wouldn't mind shedding a body from the QB room, but they are worth more to us here than we would get for them in a trade.


Unless the offense really gets going in a hurry, I don't see us being buyers, either.

Simpler mat-free answer: Just the cost of doing biz. Knowingly doing something wrong, pay fine scaled like this, get what you want anyhow, go on your way.

It's what they like to do. Use randos on X to make it sound like it means something. Meanwhile they ignore the things that matter.

Hey, if he wants to defend a pedophile who raped his stepdaughter and her mother who went on the run with this fugitive it tells us everything we need to know about who he is. Which according to him is a Christian. It helps explain why I want nothing to do with so many making that false claim.

I see depth on the defensive line being high on the list.

There is some chatter about Khalil Mack to the Browns in a day-three pick trade. Chargers are sellers to the youth movement and Mack is cheap. Mack is also 35.

I could see us trading for an inexpensive (draft capital wise) TE or CB.

Any numismatic message boards?

Yes, online coin collecting communities are incredibly active, and posting photos there is one of the absolute best ways for your friend to get free, expert eyes on the collection.
Numismatists love a good treasure hunt and will happily help identify rare dates, errors, or tell your friend if a coin is worth more than its face value.
The most respected, beginner-friendly numismatic message boards include:

1. The Big General Forums (Best for Uploading Photos)

• Coin Talk:One of the largest and most active coin forums on the internet. They actually have a dedicated sub-forum explicitly named "What's it Worth" where beginners can upload pictures of mysterious or potentially valuable coins to get quick feedback from seasoned collectors.
• Coin Community Forum:An incredibly welcoming and educational site designed for collectors of all levels. It has massive, highly organized sub-boards for US coins, error coins, coin roll hunting, and international currency.

2. Major Grading Service Forums (Best for U.S. Coins & High-Value Items)

• Collectors Universe / PCGS Message Boards: Run by the parent company of PCGS (the gold standard in professional coin grading). This board is filled with highly advanced collectors, professional dealers, and market experts. It is a fantastic place to post something if you suspect it is genuinely rare or highly valuable.
• NGC Chat Boards: Run by NGC (the other major grading powerhouse), they feature a specific "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum. It is heavily moderated, polite, and specifically tailored for people who just inherited a collection and have basic questions about grading, pricing, or shipping.


💡 Quick Tips Before Your Friend Posts:

To get the most accurate answers from these communities, tell your friend to follow a few simple rules of etiquette:
1. One coin per thread: Don't dump a photo of 50 loose coins in a pile and ask "what's this worth?" Post clear, cropped, well-lit photos of just one coin (front and back) per post.
2. Turn off the flash: Harsh glare makes it impossible to see the coin's surface or mint mark. Natural morning window light or a desk lamp angled slightly from the side works best.
3. Mention the weight or size if it's odd: For strange foreign coins or potential error coins, collectors will almost always ask for the exact weight in grams if your friend has a small food scale.
If your friend decides to start with an online community, let me know if they need any help figuring out how to identify a mint mark or what specific details to photograph first to get the best responses from the forum members.


Other resources: https://www.money.org/helpful-websites/

This seems like a logical approach....


Rule #1: The Golden Don'ts

Before your friend even touches a coin, they must swear by these two rules:

NEVER clean the coins: This is the ultimate sin in coin collecting. Even using a soft cloth, soap, or water can microscopic-scratch the surface, stripping away the natural patina ("toning"). Cleaning a rare coin can instantly erase 50% to 90% of its numismatic value. Buyers want them exactly as they are.

Don't rush to a dealer: Walking into a coin shop with a massive bucket of unorganized coins is an invitation to get overwhelmed or lowballed. They need to know what they have before they try to sell. [1, 2]



Step 1: The "Macro" Sort (Don't Look at Dates Yet)

Trying to look up every single coin one-by-one right away will cause immediate burnout. Tell them to grab some plastic bins or cups and sort the mountain into broad, obvious categories first: [1]

The Obvious "Sets": Put aside anything already in cardboard folders, plastic cases, or velvet boxes (like proof sets or mint sets).

Gold and Silver Bullion: Separate anything that looks like pure gold or silver bullion bars/rounds.

By Denomination: Dump the loose coins into piles of Pennies, Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, Half Dollars, and Dollars.

Foreign/Strange Coins: Group any non-US currency or tokens into their own pile. [1]



Step 2: Filter Out the "Bulk Silver" and Spenders

Once sorted by denomination, your friend can drastically shrink the size of the collection by pulling out the coins that are valued primarily for their metal: [1]

The 1964 Rule (90% Silver): In the US, any Dime, Quarter, or Half Dollar minted in 1964 or earlier is 90% silver. They don't need to look up individual dates for these yet; they are automatically worth a baseline "melt value" tied to the daily price of silver.

Kennedy Half Dollars (40% Silver): Kennedy halves from 1965 to 1970 contain 40% silver.

Modern Face-Value Coins: Any regular pocket change from 1965 to the present (dimes, quarters, nickels) can be set aside. Unless they look spectacularly shiny and uncirculated, they are likely just worth face value and can eventually be deposited at a bank. [1]



Step 3: Hunt for the "Real" Collectibles

Now that the mountain is reduced to older or unique coins, it's time to identify the pieces that carry "numismatic" (collector) value. They should look for: [1]

Older Designs: Indian Head or Wheat pennies, Buffalo nickels, Mercury dimes, and Morgan or Peace silver dollars.

The "Red Book": Tell them to spend about $15 to $20 on a copy of "A Guide Book of United States Coins" (universally known as the Red Book). It is the ultimate coin bible. It lists every US coin ever made, highlights "key dates" (rare years/mint marks), and provides a rough retail value baseline.

Use Mobile Apps: To speed things up, they can download free apps like CoinSnap or PCGS CoinFacts. They can take a photo of a coin with their phone, and the app will instantly identify the type, mint mark location, and history. [1]



Step 4: Catalog and Store Logically

As they identify items of interest, they should log them simply. A basic spreadsheet (Excel or Google Sheets) is perfect. [1]

What to track: Year, Mint Mark (the tiny letter like 'S', 'D', or 'O' near the date or on the back), Denomination, and any special notes (e.g., "In plastic case").

Safe Storage: For loose coins that seem valuable, buy a pack of 2x2 cardboard coin flips or plastic capsules. Avoid storing them in generic plastic sandwich bags or old PVC containers, as the chemicals can degrade the metal over time. [1]



Step 5: Decide on the End Game

Once they have a basic spreadsheet inventory, they can make a clear-headed decision about what to do next: [1]

If they want to sell: They should take their spreadsheet to 2 or 3 local coin shops vetted by good reviews to get offers. Expect dealers to offer roughly 70% to 75% of the retail value listed in price guides, as the dealer needs room to make a profit. For incredibly rare single coins, they may want to look into professional grading services like PCGS or NGC before selling.

If they want to keep it: They can pick a small, interesting subset of the collection to learn about and keep as a family heirloom, securely stored in a climate-controlled safe or safety deposit box. [1, 2, 3]

The comment about Berry liking Sanders was from the Athletic I am sure. It may be inaccurate I don't know but it's the only thing I have seen.

I think Berry has shown himself to be a little bit of a maverick on trades and more aggressive than your average GM - with Monken being a pretty aggressive/assertive ... win now sort of guy. I would hedge on us finding someone. Just an opinion.

Inactive.

All the talk about trading Jeudy kind of got blown up after the last game.

Jeudy can be effective if DW plays better.

If there is a chance to add to the OL without a big loss of draft capital. Same goes for the DL.

This is a weird team to dissect. We actually are a good team without a good quarterback.

Cleveland has gone 51 straight games without allowing a 300-yard passer and has held opponents to touchdowns on less than half of their trips into the red zone.

That will keep you in games. We have to be better at scoring. Inside of that glaring need is we have offensive weapons. We have not been able to execute on offense.

The tape is clear DW is lousy until the fourth quarter. Go figure?

I don't think we do anything. Maybe we still pick someone from a practice squad at some point.

Just as a question, who made the report about Berry liking Sanders? Berry usually doesn't say much during the season. He sometimes says things during the bye but I don't recall him saying much this go around. Probably since it was early this year.

Lots of work involved, especially for someone new to coin collecting. Lots of variables in determining worth. If this is like most piles of coins, penny's dominate. Do those last and unfortunately those will take the most time. Also, start with US coinage. It will be easier to find information.

As an example, with the penny, each is struck at a different mint. That makes a big difference in value as does year and special markings. A 1909 S with a VDB on the bottom of the face might be worth $10,000 depending on it's grade. Grades are like grades on baseball cards.

Don't worry about what he says he thinks the value might be. Most people vastly overvalue their collection, but sometimes not, and even rarer undervalue what they hold. Plus, to be honest if sounds like he was a coin hoarder over being a collector. Collectors don't just throw their crap in to a pile then hand it over to the neighbor to sort things out.

The first thing I would do is to ask your buddy what coins he thinks he has that have the most value. If he has some double struck coin, I am sure he wouldn't just toss it in to a garbage can of coins he kept in his closet. Write down what he thinks he has and take the list to your next move.

My next move would be to go to a near by coin shop and ask the dealer for advice...you will probably be told to sort by denomination and sort by silver content of the coin or the penny by if it has the wheat stamp on the back. You will also be able to see the various coins that he has on display so it will be easier to identify if you do run across any of the rarer types. Coin shops are rarer and rarer. You might have to travel a bit to find a decent one.

Then start sorting by stamp marking. Colonial pennies are larger, and he probably doesn't have any. You might find some Indian Heads and a lot of wheat stamp pennies. Dimes are FDR and Mercury heads. Buffalo nickels and Jefferson heads. Some others have been issued, but long ago and he probably doesn't have any. Quarters have had a lot of variations, but the same Washington since maybe 1934 except for the silver content. He may have some standing Liberties.

Good luck. Look at the bright side, he could have been collecting stamps by the thousands. That is a whole new nightmare.

Yes, I did collect coins as a kid/young adult. I still look at the change in my pocket, just in case. It just hit me, half dollars. You can figure that one out yourself. LOL

Wondering what people think about the potential for the browns to be active at trade deadline? We're in first place despite not playing our best football (Monken's own words - echoed by Quincy) ...

I don't see us being sellers. The only guys that seem to make sense would be Sanders or Gabriel. Not sure there is a trade partner needing either - Berry reportedly likes Sanders. I'd be happy if Gabriel is the back up for the next 2-3 years.

I can see Berry beating the bushes and maybe being a buyer - OL help maybe? Depth at CB? It seems to me that we know we want to upgrade at QB next draft ... but being in first place, having the opportunity to potentially be in the playoffs this season should be enough motivation for a moderately aggressive trade here or there. a 4th or 5th rounder packaged for someone else's middle of the road/average OL who could challenge our roster to become a starter along the line. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this happened.

We might sit tight wanting to keep every piece of draft capital for the draft and targeting out future FQB ... but ... as well as 2027 draft capital Berry has shown a willingness to pull from future drafts so preserving those mid round picks if there is a real opportunity to add this year seems less important to me.

So Pit ran with some facts - and your response is just to bury your head in the sand and throw out a completely meaningless denial.

After Austintown police investigated the report filed by Amy Acton’s biological father, a Mahoning County grand jury indicted Cledith Arthur on a felony rape charge in September 1978. = Fact

In October 1978, before a trial could take place, Arthur failed to appear for a scheduled court hearing. A judge declared him a fugitive from justice and officially issued a warrant for his arrest. = Fact

The charges were never formally resolved or dropped because Cledith Arthur remained a fugitive for the rest of his life until he died in 2004 = Fact


Since you often choose to write about your support for the slaughter of innocent women and children in Gaza it's no surprise you want to overlook rape and sexual abuse in the name of blindly following your political propaganda.

Yes - these randos are idiots. There are idiots on both/all sides - no one side has all the idiots, or even the majority vs 'the other' .... and on other websites 'The Left' does the same thing, spreads lies or posts random people and portrays them as representing the entire 'other side'. . . . On Dawgtalkers we only have one poster who seems to do it. Much easier to do that than have a conversation about... hmmm, say Iran, the National Debt, Supporting Putin or other things that are actually happening in Govt. today.

You ever use chatgpt. Maybe lay out a bunch of quarters a 10 across 10 down in a square. Take a picture of them. Up load it to chatgpt. Ask if any have collectors value other than face value.

The quentissential great start by our stars (Mitchell, Mobely and Allen) only to be followed up by the usual 2nd half stinker.

No trust in this team.

Bless your heart!!! You can regurgitate the medias lies over and over.

Those people are idiots but I don’t think it’s fair to say “most leftists.” It’s all rage bait by taking the few and applying it to the many. I certainly don’t think it’d be fair to look in the other thread and say that DotD represents many conservatives.

Nope. Not a soul can possibly think this is a good thing or "not a bad thing".

I simply think the ones in freak out mode about paying so much for someone not even on the roster really aren't seeing the forest through the trees. That's all.

Conservative super PAC boosting socialist for Senate in Ohio
FEC filings show that Enough Promises Ohio, a super PAC which has paid $1.9 million to promote a socialist candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, is entirely funded by the Republican-linked Conservative Americans PAC.
By Ally Ross, Multimedia Journalist Oct 22, 2026 Updated 25 mins ago
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The political action committee which has paid nearly $2 million to boost a socialist candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio is bankrolled by a Republican-linked group, Federal Election Commission filings confirm.

Enough Promises Ohio, a brand-new super PAC which has now spent $1,978,398.62 on mailers supporting Greg Levy and opposing Democratic former Sen. Sherrod Brown, submitted its pre-general election report to the FEC on Thursday.

The report shows Enough Promises Ohio has been funded entirely by a $2.5 million donation from Conservative Americans PAC, whose address is listed at the offices of Bulldog Compliance. According to its website, Bulldog Compliance is a subdivision of Red Curve Solutions, an FEC compliance and accounting firm.

Conservative Americans PAC’s disbursement reports with the FEC show a history of donations to conservative groups, including the Senate Leadership Fund.

The new filings confirm 21 News’ earlier reporting which connected Enough Promises Ohio to the GOP. The super PAC has been paying an entity called Seven Farms for the mailers, and Seven Farms shares the same address as Whistlestop Strategies, LLC. The latter is operated by the major Republican strategy firm Big Dog Strategies.

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(Oct. 13) Mailers promoting socialist U.S. Senate candidate Greg Levy are being supported by a GOP-linked group. Ally Ross has more details on these mailers and the group behind the support.

Brown is facing off in a hotly contested race against sitting Republican Sen. Jon Husted. The contest is considered one of the most important Senate races in the 2026 midterms as Republicans seek to maintain control of Congress under President Donald Trump.

Dave Cohen, director of the applied politics program at The University of Akron, previously told 21 News the strategy of Republicans propping up an independent socialist candidate is twofold.

“One, that people who are very left-leaning will peel off and instead of voting for Sherrod Brown, vote for Levy,” Cohen said. “But also, it's being done to scare more mainstream voters, and to try to make the argument that the Democratic Party is becoming more socialist or communist, and you don't want to vote for them.”

21 News has reached out to Levy’s campaign for comment. In a previous statement, Levy condemned the mailers as “dirty tricks and racist impersonation.”

“This racist caricaturing of our candidate, a form of digital blackface, is a cheap, cowardly attack that is meant to demean the communities we represent and scare voters away from policies that put the needs of working families ahead of corporate profits,” Levy said in a post on X. “The Greg Levy for Senate campaign is considering taking legal action against the operatives behind this crude impersonation.”

This is not a new strategy for Conservative Americans PAC. POLITICO reported in June how the group meddled in multiple Democratic congressional primary races in Texas, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Nebraska and Maine.

21 News has also reached out to Enough Promises Ohio and Conservative Americans PAC for comment at the email addresses listed on their FEC Statements of Organization. Neither has responded as of the time of publication.

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