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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 06/27/26 05:16 PM
Trump advisors warned him he is losing the war against algae. Immediately after being told this he requested 300 billion dollars from congress to fight the war in Algaeria.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 06/27/26 04:14 PM
If Charlie Kirk sees black angels in heaven will he claim they are DEI angels?
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 06/27/26 04:11 PM
Governor Blasts Great American State Fair Over Confederate Flag in NC Booth

North Carolina Democratic Governor Josh Stein's office has condemned a display at the Great American State Fair in Washington, D.C., which included altered versions of the state flag featuring the Confederate's "Southern Cross."

The controversy erupted after journalist Reuben Jones posted footage from the North Carolina exhibit featuring two versions of the state flag with the Confederate battle emblem superimposed over the design.

A spokesperson for Stein said the video display of the flags misrepresented North Carolina and called on organizers to remove it.

"This display does not reflect the North Carolina that we love. America 250 is about unity and bringing our nation together. Glorifying this divisive Confederate symbol does the exact opposite. We demand the organizers stop dishonoring the flag of North Carolina," they said.

The exhibit is part of the Great American State Fair, an event celebrating the nation's upcoming 250th anniversary.

Newsweek has reached out to Freedom 250, the organizers of the fair, via email for comment.

A spokesperson for the North Carolina booth told Spectrum News that it had become aware of an "unapproved image in a video displayed inside the North Carolina Pavilion" on Friday. "As soon as we were made aware, we immediately removed the video and began reviewing how it occurred. Our focus remains on celebrating America’s 250th birthday and North Carolina’s role in our nation’s history.”

The video display, which showed the current North Carolina flag split with the Confederate flag, has since been removed.

The videos prompted criticism from historians, political figures and businesses participating in the North Carolina exhibit.

Stephen Jackson, a historian who specializes in North Carolina's past, wrote on X: "Unlike former flags from Georgia and Mississippi, the official flag of NC has NEVER incorporated the Confederate Battle Flag in its design. Shame on whoever is running this booth."

Democratic advocacy group Carolina Forward also criticized the display, posting: "So the privately-sponsored North Carolina booth at Trump's fair features not one, but two altered versions of the state flag with a big stars-and-bars on it. Disgusting."

Meanwhile, one of the exhibit's corporate sponsors, Mt. Olive Pickle Company, announced it was withdrawing after learning about the display.

In a statement shared by Jones, the company said: "Mt. Olive Pickle Company was invited to participate in the North Carolina exhibit for the Great American State Fair in Washington, D.C., as part of America's 250th celebration. We are proud of our North Carolina roots, and we agreed to be a part of an exhibit, as presented to us, that would represent the best of our great state.

"We were unaware that an image of the Confederate flag was included in a video as part of this exhibit, and we have withdrawn our participation. Our company stands on values of human dignity, opportunity, and freedom."

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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward PitDAWG 06/27/26 04:02 PM
For future reference I just wanted to inform you that the WSJ has a pay wall. Unless you post the article itself nobody can read it without paying a subscription the the WSJ.
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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward PitDAWG 06/27/26 03:48 PM
With events and circumstances changing and unfolding so rapidly in both Iran and Lebanon over the past couple of days this is a very basic description in the timeline of events that have happened since yesterday................

12:45 PM / June 26, 2026
115 vessels, 2,500 sailors evacuated from Strait of Hormuz since Tuesday, says U.N. maritime agency

About 115 vessels and 2,500 sailors have been evacuated from the Persian Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz since Tuesday, the head of the United Nations' International Maritime Organization said Friday.

Secretary-General Arsenio Dominguez gave the update after the agency on Thursday suspended its efforts to evacuate some 600 ships and 11,000 sailors, following an attack on a vessel in the Gulf of Oman that U.S. Central Command said was carried out by Iran.

Dominguez said during an online news conference that "115 [vessels] have evacuated in the last three and a half days, representing around 2,500 seafarers that have now safely left the Strait of Hormuz."

It was unclear whether the operation had resumed.

1:44 PM / June 26, 2026
Iran issues harsh condemnation of Gulf countries following Rubio meeting

Iran issued a strong condemnation of this week's Gulf Cooperation Council meeting on Friday, singling out the Gulf countries for agreeing with the U.S. position on the war with Iran.

The meeting, which involves the countries of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, was attended this week by Secretary of State Marco Rubio. A lengthy statement issued after the meeting condemned Iran's attacks on neighboring countries and affirmed the need for free transit of the Strait of Hormuz.

Though the United States wasn't mentioned by name, the implication was clear.

"There is no doubt that Iran is more committed to the collective security of the region than any other party," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baqaei said on X. "And if the Gulf Cooperation Council believes that resolving this concern lies in seeking protection from the greatest violator of security, then that in itself constitutes a deviation from the intended goal, a bitter paradox, and a disappointing indicator of failing to learn from the recent bitter experiences."

Iran has regularly fired missiles and drones at several of the members of the GCC during the war.

Like the U.S. and Israel, Iran repeatedly invoked the need for self-defense in its statement.

"Iran's national security and dignity are matters that brook no compromise or condition; just as the inherent right to legitimate self-defense is not open to discussion, the means of this defense cannot be subject to bargaining or concession with any party," Baqaei wrote.

2:19 PM / June 26, 2026
Israel, Lebanon agree to framework of deal for "lasting peace and security"

Israel and the government of Lebanon have agreed to the framework of a deal to bring "lasting peace and security" between the neighboring countries, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced Friday.

"Today is a good day in that we are happy to announce the framework agreement between the sovereign government of Lebanon and, of course, the government of Israel, with the mediation and support of the United States of America, that begins to put in place a framework for lasting peace and security," Rubio told reporters at the State Department after several days of negotiations between the two sides.

However, the negotiations did not include Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia that has been involved in the fighting against Israel in southern Lebanon. A previous deal between Israel and Lebanon was quickly rejected by Hezbollah.

Rubio referred to the deal as "the first step" in the pursuit of a lasting peace.

"The people of Israel deserve to live in peace and security. The people of northern Israel in particular, who have been targeted repeatedly by terrorist attacks launched from the territory of Lebanon, but not by the Lebanese people, not by the Lebanese government, but by an outside actor who has sought to use that territory to target innocent civilians who have been unable to live in these places for a long time," he said, referring to Hezbollah.

It was not immediately clear how the trilateral framework agreement was any different than the ceasefire agreement already in place between Lebanon and Israel, which has been repeatedly defied by Hezbollah with daily attacks against an Israeli military it says is occupying sovereign territory.

Israel's prime minister's office released a statement saying it will "maintain its security zone along the Yellow Line in Lebanon until the day when Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations in Lebanon are disarmed and no longer pose a threat to the territory of the State of Israel from Lebanon."

That would seem to directly contradict Hezbollah and Iran's assertion that Israel withdraw from Lebanese territory in order to further negotiate a lasting peace deal with the U.S.

3:40 PM / June 26, 2026
Trump says "nobody saw" drone that hit cargo ship in Strait of Hormuz

Describing the U.S. response to a drone strike that President Trump blamed on Iran, the president said one got through unnoticed and struck a ship on Thursday.

"We knocked down three of them. One of them, I guess - we didn't miss it. Nobody saw it coming," Mr. Trump said on Friday.

He made the comment while addressing the Faith and Freedom Coalition policy conference in Washington after remarking that Iran still has "some capability, not much."

"You can't do that stuff," he added. Earlier on Friday he called the strike a violation of the ceasefire agreement between Iran and the United States.

4:15 PM / June 26, 2026
Will Iran face consequences for strike on ship? "You'll find out," Trump says.

President Trump was asked by a reporter in the Oval Office whether Iran would face any consequences for carrying out a drone strike on a cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz.

"You'll find out," Mr. Trump said.

Asked if the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran was still in place, the president said, "I don't like the fact that they took a shot yesterday – actually four, we knocked down three – at a ship, not an allied ship, but a ship, a very expensive ship."

"They shouldn't be doing that," Mr. Trump said.

4:58 PM / June 26, 2026
U.S. strikes targets in Iran after drone attack on cargo ship

The U.S. military says it hit Iranian targets on Friday over Iran's drone attack on a commercial vessel in the Strait of Hormuz, marking the first American strikes on Iran since the two countries agreed to extend an already rickety ceasefire last week.

The strikes targeted Iranian missile and drone storage facilities and radar sites, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media, calling it a "powerful response" to Iran's "dangerous behavior."

5:06 PM / June 26, 2026
Retaliatory strikes against Iran are ongoing, U.S. official says

A U.S. official told CBS News the retaliatory strikes against Iran are ongoing.

5:39 PM / June 26, 2026
House Dem says war isn't "anywhere near over" as U.S. conducts retaliatory strikes

A House Democrat said Friday's retaliatory strikes by the U.S. against Iran showed that the war isn't ending anytime soon.

"I don't think this war is anywhere near over," Rep. Suhas Subramanyam, a Democrat from Virginia, said on CBS News' "The Takeout" Friday.

He also doubted the memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Iran would hold up.

"Iran is difficult to deal with in the first place, and then you have an administration that has showed itself to be incompetent when it comes to foreign affairs and diplomacy, and so that's why you have the breakdown of all these frameworks," Subramanyam said.

5:52 PM / June 26, 2026
U.S. hits multiple targets in retaliatory strikes against Iran, official says

U.S. aircraft hit multiple targets along the Strait of Hormuz and on Iran's Qeshm Island during Friday's retaliatory strikes against Iran, a U.S. official told CBS News after the strikes concluded.

6:33 PM / June 26, 2026
"Violence will be met with violence," Vance says after U.S. retaliatory strikes

Vice President JD Vance said "violence will be met with violence" after the U.S. carried out retaliatory strikes against Iran on Friday.

"Iran signed a ceasefire agreement. We have honored it. If they have disagreements about how the MOU is being applied, they can pick up the phone," Vance said on social media, referring to the memorandum of understanding between the two countries. "But violence will be met with violence."

8:57 PM
U.S. hit 4 targets in strikes against Iran, U.S. official says

The U.S. strikes on Iran hit four targets and were carried out by six land-based U.S. aircraft, a U.S. official told CBS News after the strikes concluded.

The strikes targeted Iranian missile and drone storage facilities and radar sites, U.S. Central Command had said in a statement posted to social media, calling it a "powerful response" to Iran's "dangerous behavior."

6:01 AM
Tanker reports strike by "unidentified projectile" in Strait of Hormuz

The U.K. Maritime Trade Operations, which receives reports of suspicious activity from all vessels in the Gulf region, said a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz reported being struck by an "unidentified projectile."

The ship sustained damage to its bridge, the UKMTO said, but no injuries were reported.

No details about the tanker or the projectile were immediately available. The incident was reported at around 11:30 a.m. local time.

6:07 AM
Iran targets Bahrain with drone attack: "A flagrant threat"

Iran launched a drone assault targeting Bahrain after overnight airstrikes by the United States.

The attacks across the Persian Gulf show the danger of the Iran war again spinning out of control, even after Iran and the U.S. reached an interim deal to try and agree on a final accord to end the conflict.

The U.S. had launched its airstrikes in response to an Iranian drone attack on a ship trying to get out of the strait on Thursday, continuing a string of attacks that have shaken the uneasy ceasefire in the war.

That Iran targeted Bahrain likely was not coincidental. The kingdom has been one of the strongest critics of Iran and is home to the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet. It just hosted U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio for a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council's foreign ministers, which ended with a call for an end to Iran's attacks and the strait to be completely open.

A statement from Bahrain's Foreign Ministry said a "number of Iranian drones" targeted the country. It called the attack "a flagrant threat to the security of citizens and residents."

Iran's paramilitary Revolutionary Guard earlier on Saturday issued a statement carried by the state-run IRNA news agency saying it had targeted several locations "of the U.S. terrorist army in the region." It did not name what areas were targeted.

6:19 AM
U.S. Navy says sea route near Oman is expanding to allow more Strait of Hormuz traffic

A maritime body overseen by the U.S. Navy said Saturday that a route through the Strait of Hormuz near Oman's shores is expanding to allow for both inbound and outbound traffic.

The announcement by the Joint Maritime Information Center serves as another warning to Iran that the U.S. is pushing to reopen the strait.

Iran has insisted ships must obey its orders and is warning it will start charging fees for transit through the strait, through which a fifth of all oil and natural gas once passed.

The U.S. and Gulf Arab states have rejected Iran's demands. The strait is considered around the world as an international waterway, despite being the territorial waters of Iran and Oman.

7:46 AM
Gulf allies condemn Iranian strikes on Bahrain

Several countries in the Gulf — all allies of the United States or members of the Gulf Cooperation Council, which condemned Iran's actions earlier this week — have voiced support for Bahrain following Iranian drone strikes.

The United Arab Emirates said it "condemned in the strongest terms the hostile drone attacks by Iran that targeted the Kingdom of Bahrain."

Kuwait's foreign ministry said in a statement: "The Ministry affirms that the continuation of these attacks, at a time when regional and international efforts are aimed at de-escalation and reducing tensions, constitutes a serious undermining of peace and stability efforts and a threat to the security and stability of the region."

Egypt wrote that it "stands alongside the Kingdom of Bahrain in confronting anything that threatens its security and territorial integrity."

9:22 AM
Hezbollah rejects latest Lebanon-Israel agreement, calls it "a disgrace"

Hezbollah has rejected the trilateral agreement between the U.S., Israel and Lebanon, calling it a "humiliation" and a "disgrace."

Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced the deal on Friday after several days of negotiations, though there were no substantial differences from the ceasefire that Israel and Lebanon were already operating under, which also did not involve negotiations with the Iranian-backed, Lebanon-based Hezbollah militant group.

"The Framework Agreement in Washington is a humiliation, a disgrace, and a surrender of sovereignty," Hezbollah Secretary-General Sheikh Naim Qassem said in a lengthy statement picking apart the deal. "This agreement is null and void, and the provisions of the Iranian-American Memorandum of Understanding must be implemented.

"We will continue, through all necessary means and international and Arab pressure, to ensure that the Israeli enemy complies with the first article of the Memorandum of Understanding and withdraws from Lebanon."

The first part of the 14-point memorandum of understanding signed between the U.S. and Israel 10 days ago calls for the "immediate and permanent end to military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon" and, according to a senior U.S. official, ensures "the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon."

Israel has indicated it has no plans to withdraw from southern Lebanon and the trilateral agreement signed Friday seems to contradict the MOU. The trilateral agreement states Israel will exit Lebanese territory only "pending the verified disarmament of non-state armed groups and dismantlement of associated infrastructure," a reference to Hezbollah.

Qassem stated in their rejection of Friday's deal: "We will continue as a Resistance in the field until the occupation is defeated. We did not abandon the battlefield in its most difficult moments, and we will not abandon it now, for this is the path to goodness and salvation."

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/us-iran-war-israel-hezbollah-strait-of-hormuz-peace-deal-talks/
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Re: Browns News cont. bonefish 06/27/26 03:32 PM
I cannot speculate on DW's motivation.

He has generational wealth.

IMO he is not very good at football. I saw nothing from him as a quarterback to make me feel like he could ever be what he once was.

Health is a big factor. I can understand him looking good in OTA's. However, once he faces live ammo. I think what we saw in his recent past is what we will see again.

He does not handle pressure well. His mobility is diminished. A twice repaired Achilles is far from sound and more likely to be damaged again.

The future is more likely in the draft.

However, I would like to see Shedeur play. I want to see him with a full amount of practice and a OL that is at least average.

If he plays and shows no real improvement. So be it.
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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward northlima dawg 06/27/26 03:12 PM
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded PitDAWG 06/27/26 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
LOL, of course you’re right. It isn’t about knocking Myles down, it’s about knocking Pitt down for focusing on it.

What a petty little man. But at least you are willing to admit it.

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It was a blip in the middle of a post that he wanted to exploit.

No, it was someone searching for anything and everything negative they could come up with to go after Myles. Pay attention next time.

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Myles Garrett is a first ballot hall of famer, and to Pitts point, he hasn’t killed anyone… yet.

Allow me to point out just what you have taken issue with. First something I never said. I didn't say it was okay to speed. What I simply said is that in the grand scheme of things it isn't a huge issue.

Domestic violence is something that runs rampant in the NFL. Lions CB Terrion Arnold was arrested just this past week on eight felony counts that carry possible life sentence. There is a very long list of NFL players that have committed felonies including many violent felonies.

And then of course there's that NFL policy on speeding tickets. No, wait....

In comparison speeding is pretty trivial. Anyone can see that and only someone like you would take the opposite position and claim it's the fault of someone else for comprehending that.

Look at the laws themselves. Look at what level of crimes they are. Felonies verses misdemeanors verses traffic violations. Even the penalties and severity of the laws as they are categorized shows plainly you are doing nothing but being ridiculous. But hey, if that's your game let's play some more. I'm ready and so far you have shown you have no comprehension of even by legal standards speeding pales in comparison to conduct of many players.
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Re: Browns News cont. IrishDawg42 06/27/26 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I think it all boils down to one question. Do they decide whether to go all in for this coming season by starting watson and focus on the short term? Or do they start Sanders to see what his potential is moving forward so they have a full view of the facts going into next years draft. I would prefer they see what they have in Sanders moving forward even though my faith in him is little to none rather than going into next years draft with that question still looming. But I get it either way.

You are exactly right, that’s the question that needs answered. I think we are all going to find out in about two weeks. If Berry, through Monkens eyes, has decided Sanders doesn’t have what it takes to develop into a franchise guy, he is probably going to end this right now if there is a trade partner. It’s the only way for Watson to start without everyone saying it’s the wrong decision. With Sanders elsewhere it opens the door for Monken to start who he wants instead of who most of us want. It also closes the chapter on development in the current QB room and starts the process to find the next guy who is hopefully a better prospect for longevity in winning.



Bonefish, I agree with your points on Watson showing nothing to this point. He hasn’t had anything to play for in his first 4 years with the Browns. He didn’t want to be here, but his love of money outweighs his love of football, gamesmanship, team unity.. just about anything.

Watson has a next contract to play for in 2026, he finally had motivation to show teams outside of Cleveland what he can do to earn another payday. I don’t rule out his money motivation as a factor to returning to form.. and it just so happens Berry gave him weapons that can help him accomplish that.

Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think Gariel's stats compare with those of Shedufus, and way fewer turnovers. I am not sure why he is looked at as the odd man out.

Gabriel is who we think he is, a safe, boring QB that won’t lose you games, but he isn’t going to win you any either. Everyone has to be on point every week or you lose. Sanders is willing to take risks that Gabriel won’t. That’s his edge…but also his downfall because he just isn’t good enough to pull it off more times than not. That’s what franchise guys do, Sanders doesn’t seem like a franchise guy. Not because of what he didn’t do in 2025, that was a short stacked deck against him. He just doesn’t show enough on film to convince me he has all the tools. I actually think he has the heart, he’s won me over in that respect.

They have to decide what’s best for 2026 to try to win games, then focus on each week individually. They can worry about what’s next when the final whistle blows.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded IrishDawg42 06/27/26 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm curious how many people are so sanctimonious that speeding tickets are high on their priority list? Or why at some point one of the best players in the league gets tired of losing?

That's only one particular angle. Other factors would be other MG issues regarding wanting to be traded. And another is that the team is rebuilding.

But - if we simply want to focus on speeding tickets - tell me how this is not a consistent pattern of behavior not to be concerned over: (from the web)

Myles Garrett has received at least nine speeding tickets and citations in Ohio since being drafted by the Cleveland Browns in 2017. While he has been cited for speeds reaching up to 120 mph, his most notable instances and documented tickets include:

February 21, 2026: Clocked going 94 mph in a 70-mph zone on Interstate 71 in Wayne County at 1:35 a.m. Bodycam footage revealed he was originally driving over 100 mph, but the deputy reduced the cited speed to 94 to avoid a mandatory court appearance. He paid a $157.50 fine.

August 9, 2025: Cited for driving 100 mph in a 60-mph zone in the Cleveland suburb of Strongsville. This stop happened early on a Saturday morning as he was returning from a preseason road game against the Carolina Panthers. It resulted in a $250 fine.

September 26, 2022: Involved in a high-profile, single-car rollover crash in Medina County. His Porsche went off the road, took out a fire hydrant, and flipped multiple times. He suffered shoulder and biceps sprains and was cited for failure to control his vehicle due to unsafe speeds (driving 65 mph on a 45-mph road). ((65mph!! LOL)

September 2021: Stopped twice in a 24-hour span on Interstate 71 for extreme speeds. He was clocked going 120 mph on one day, and 105 mph the very next day, resulting in combined fines of $554.

He had other consistent patterns of behavior as well.

When he was on the field, he always played hard. He was (relatively) durable, and logged many snaps while dinged and playing on bad teams (he could've mailed it in).

Yeah, the speeding isn't good, but if that's the vice you gotta worry about with him... that's pretty minor. You don't have to look very far (not even counting the obvious one) for worse personal/legal issues to worry about.

LOL, of course you’re right. It isn’t about knocking Myles down, it’s about knocking Pitt down for focusing on it. It was a blip in the middle of a post that he wanted to exploit.

Myles Garrett is a first ballot hall of famer, and to Pitts point, he hasn’t killed anyone… yet.

When you are trying to rectify negative feelings, you have to find the negative in whatever is causing those feelings. That’s all this is, well, and the fact there isn’t anything else to talk about until training camp. We all have the bug… we all check in to see what everyone is talking about, it really sucks when we log in and no one has said anything.

Myles is gonna be Myles. One day that will come faster for some of us, he’ll be signing a one day contract to retire a Brown and all of this will be a distant memory.
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Re: Browns News cont. bonefish 06/27/26 12:25 PM
IMO I think it is because he took more chances and was accurate down the field.

Gabriel was less likely to turn it over because KS schooled him on check downs.

Shedeur shows more potential even though it remains to be seen if he will develop.

The Browns shortest route to success is with Shedeur. Obviously, he has to prove he is worth keeping.

Gabriel has a higher floor and lower ceiling.
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Re: Browns News cont. Ballpeen 06/27/26 11:30 AM
I think Gariel's stats compare with those of Shedufus, and way fewer turnovers. I am not sure why he is looked at as the odd man out.
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Re: Trump will Keep Jet Qutar Gifted the U.S. For Presidential Library Damanshot 06/27/26 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Isn't there laws against accepting gifts like this?

The Foreign Emoluments Clause: Found in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8, it prohibits any person holding a government office from accepting any present, emolument, office, or title from any foreign state, king, or prince without the consent of Congress.

But it's trump, so....


Then why O why is the republican led congress allowing it?

Can't wait to hear their excuse for this.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded oobernoober 06/27/26 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm curious how many people are so sanctimonious that speeding tickets are high on their priority list? Or why at some point one of the best players in the league gets tired of losing?

That's only one particular angle. Other factors would be other MG issues regarding wanting to be traded. And another is that the team is rebuilding.

But - if we simply want to focus on speeding tickets - tell me how this is not a consistent pattern of behavior not to be concerned over: (from the web)

Myles Garrett has received at least nine speeding tickets and citations in Ohio since being drafted by the Cleveland Browns in 2017. While he has been cited for speeds reaching up to 120 mph, his most notable instances and documented tickets include:

February 21, 2026: Clocked going 94 mph in a 70-mph zone on Interstate 71 in Wayne County at 1:35 a.m. Bodycam footage revealed he was originally driving over 100 mph, but the deputy reduced the cited speed to 94 to avoid a mandatory court appearance. He paid a $157.50 fine.

August 9, 2025: Cited for driving 100 mph in a 60-mph zone in the Cleveland suburb of Strongsville. This stop happened early on a Saturday morning as he was returning from a preseason road game against the Carolina Panthers. It resulted in a $250 fine.

September 26, 2022: Involved in a high-profile, single-car rollover crash in Medina County. His Porsche went off the road, took out a fire hydrant, and flipped multiple times. He suffered shoulder and biceps sprains and was cited for failure to control his vehicle due to unsafe speeds (driving 65 mph on a 45-mph road). ((65mph!! LOL)

September 2021: Stopped twice in a 24-hour span on Interstate 71 for extreme speeds. He was clocked going 120 mph on one day, and 105 mph the very next day, resulting in combined fines of $554.

He had other consistent patterns of behavior as well.

When he was on the field, he always played hard. He was (relatively) durable, and logged many snaps while dinged and playing on bad teams (he could've mailed it in).

Yeah, the speeding isn't good, but if that's the vice you gotta worry about with him... that's pretty minor. You don't have to look very far (not even counting the obvious one) for worse personal/legal issues to worry about.
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Re: Browns News cont. bonefish 06/26/26 09:31 PM
Honestly I see no reason to believe that DW will play well.

He is healthy. Ok good. He has attended OTA's. Played in shorts and t-shirts. 7 on 7 and some 11 on 11 "without pads."

He is a former first round pick. He has been in the NFL ten years. He should look good. He should be able to learn a play book.

However, the last time he played in games. He was terrible. He flushed from the pocket early. Could not find open receivers.

He was inaccurate. He broke a shoulder bone. Then he tore his Achilles twice. He is now 31. His QBR in 2024 was 21.

I have no reason to think after the last five years in Cleveland; he is going to play well now. I feel strongly he will never replicate what he did in Houston.

He is on the team because they cannot afford to cut him.

He is not in the Browns future plans. Why play him?

Play Shedeur. Try and get Green some reps in RPO's. Keep DW as the backup for this year. Try and trade Gabriel unless they like him as a backup.

I can see no logic in starting DW. Unless in camp he is unquestionable way better than Sanders.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded IrishDawg42 06/26/26 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
If you think it's so "trivial" why have you spent all of this time posting and concentrating on it? Your actions do not line up with your words. In case you missed it, I'm not the one who engaged with you first. You took that all upon yourself to make the initial engagement and then try to make it sound as if I initiated the back and forth with you. Connect the dots is not your strong suit. notallthere


Because it's fun, I thought that much was obvious.

I never said you initiated it with me, you initiated it with Hitt... then Hitt responded to your post, then MGH responded to your post, then you responded back to all those posts, making it seem that it is a really important issue to YOU.. THEN I finally respond and you go on a tirade of insults because you started realizing how silly your argument was. Pretty cut and dry.
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Re: Browns News cont. PitDAWG 06/26/26 06:52 PM
I think it all boils down to one question. Do they decide whether to go all in for this coming season by starting watson and focus on the short term? Or do they start Sanders to see what his potential is moving forward so they have a full view of the facts going into next years draft. I would prefer they see what they have in Sanders moving forward even though my faith in him is little to none rather than going into next years draft with that question still looming. But I get it either way.
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Re: Browns News cont. IrishDawg42 06/26/26 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
My personal thoughts on the QBs is that as bad as Watson is, he is still far and away the best QB we have. That said, we may let on that we feel Shedeur is winning the QB competition to drive up his outside perceived value.
I dislike Watson completely, never wanted him, was always against everything to do with him, but I would not be surprised in the least to see us trade Shedeur and roll with Watson.


I mean, in the end, I don't think we actually have a QB on the roster. Period. However, we have to roll with someone. Shedeur isn't a starting QB in this league unless he figures out how to fix a LOT of things with himself, so our best play with him is to turn the 5th rounder we spent on him into something better. Watson is here this year no matter what, and then likely gone. Unless he plays at a level he hasn't approached in nearly a decade, he's done here. IF he can somehow perform at his 2018-2020 level, he could get an extension (which would allow us to work some of the dead cap in what is currently set to be void years). Gabriel throws a LOT less INTs and has a marginally higher completion percentage, but he's a dink & dunker. Maybe that's on the OLine and the lack of WRs, maybe it was hyper-conservative playcalling, maybe it was him. Maybe it was all three. He was efficient and took care of the ball, though. Sanders gambled more, but threw a lot of up-for-grabs balls that shouldn't have ever been thrown. Some paid off, a lot did not. Gabriel had the higher YPA in college - by a full yard per attempt; that's a big difference. However, for some reason, he was 1.5 yards per attempt lower last year. I think it comes down to Gabriel had the sense to protect the ball where Sanders is just out there playing ball, but not really thinking. With a better OLine and WRs, we just might see Gabriel go back to having the better. Theoretically, Monken's style suits Gabriel's college traits perfectly and Monken's schematic history shares a lot with what Gabriel did in college: RPOs, QB autonomy, horizontal & vertical spacing.

I agree, I don't think we have our future QB on the roster right now either.

As far as Gabriel, I think Monken has a lefty bias. I've heard him make comments on a few occasions that made him sound annoyed that they have to do things two different ways because of Gabriel. I could be reading into it too much, but I don't think he is going to be here very long.

I will be surprised in the end if it isn't Sanders starting, with Watson the backup and Green the emergency QB. Unless Sanders is just god awful to the point that Watson is given the job out of not having another option.

I do believe there is merit in finding out what the best possible player on the team has when the 2027 off season could be one of the most important for this team in a very long time. I don't see a version that ends up with a Watson extension. Sure it could help the cap, but Watson doesn't care AT ALL about Cleveland's cap. He didn't want to be here in the first place and now his prison sentence is almost over. He gets parole when free agency opens. Instead of walking out with his belongings and a few hundred dollar check, he gets to gloat over his fat bank account for doing literally nothing for 5 years.
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Re: Browns News cont. bonefish 06/26/26 06:40 PM
I get what you're saying and I can understand that point of view.

However, the Browns last year were a really bad team. Gabriel and Sanders were never supposed to start.

In fact, they were not prepared to start. When they were forced to start because of injury and trade.

They had very little support. The OL last season was embarrassing. The receivers were horrible. There was no running game.

So trying to evaluate a 3rd and 5th round quarterback under those conditions is impossible.

Gabriel looked limited but I could see him as a legit backup like Colt McCoy.

Sanders showed accuracy when given time and was more mobile than I thought.

What stood out IMO was he was unprepared for the speed of the NFL. He needed to see open. He could not process open fast enough.

He didn't trust what he saw or didn't see it in time.

There is a chance with seven games in the brain bank. And now having a full off season to prepare working with the first string.

He might show more. He has skills. He will have a better offensive unit to work with. I expect more from him.

So, I want him to play. Sink or swim.

DW I could care less. I expect less. He will never be what he once was IMO. If he plays IMO he will not look any better than he has with the Browns. I see no reason for him to play other than as a backup to an injury.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded PitDAWG 06/26/26 06:40 PM
If you think it's so "trivial" why have you spent all of this time posting and concentrating on it? Your actions do not line up with your words. In case you missed it, I'm not the one who engaged with you first. You took that all upon yourself to make the initial engagement and then try to make it sound as if I initiated the back and forth with you. Connect the dots is not your strong suit. notallthere
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded IrishDawg42 06/26/26 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm not the one making a mountain out of speeding tickets like someone shot my mom. rolleyes

"trending"? Oh my.....

Yes you are, someone makes a comment on his speeding tickets, IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARAGRAPH OF ISSUES. And you single out the one thing you wanted to focus on.

And... yes... "trending"

His driving record includes several high-speed infractions and a severe single-car crash:February 21, 2026: Garrett was pulled over in Wayne County, Ohio, for driving 94 mph in a 70-mph zone on Interstate 71. Bodycam footage revealed he was originally clocked driving over 100 mph, but the deputy reduced the cited speed so he could avoid a mandatory court appearance.August 9, 2025: He was cited in Strongsville, Ohio, after being clocked driving 100 mph in a 60-mph zone.September 2022: Garrett was involved in a single-car rollover crash in which his Porsche flipped several times off the side of the road. He and his female passenger suffered minor injuries, and he was cited for "failure to control his motor vehicle" at an unsafe speed.2021: He was pulled over for speeding twice in a 24-hour span. During those stops, he was cited for driving 120 mph and 105 mph in 70-mph zones.May 2020: He was cited for driving 100 mph in a 65-mph zone near Akron.Other Infractions: Garrett was also issued speeding tickets in 2018 and 2019, including a 2019 incident where he was clocked going 91 mph in a 60-mph zone.


Nearly all of his citations show speeds exceeding 30+ MPH over the limit.... that is the definition of trending.

You make some of the dumbest arguments, just to argue. Then you'll spew some insults to claim victory. LOL As always, it's been fun winning the debate. As trivial as that debate may be.
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded PitDAWG 06/26/26 05:52 PM
I'm not the one making a mountain out of speeding tickets like someone shot my mom. rolleyes

"trending"? Oh my.....
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 06/26/26 05:49 PM
FEMA official who claimed he teleported to Waffle House ousted from agency, sources say

A top FEMA official who had drawn scrutiny for bizarre past remarks — including claiming he teleported to a Waffle House — has been pushed out of the agency, four sources tell CNN.

White House officials appointed Gregg Phillips in December to lead FEMA’s Office of Response and Recovery, one of the agency’s most consequential leadership roles, despite his history of promoting election conspiracy theories, particularly in the aftermath of the 2020 election. He came under national scrutiny in March after CNN reported on a cache of outlandish comments from his appearances on right-wing podcasts, including the teleportation claim.

The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA, confirmed Thursday that Phillips is leaving the agency, saying he is taking leave for personal reasons. But sources tell CNN the departure was not voluntary: New DHS leadership had grown weary of the embarrassment surrounding Phillips’ public image and of his periodic clashes with the department’s other leaders.

Even so, Phillips had won over some career FEMA officials. When he arrived, then-Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and her de facto chief of staff Corey Lewandowski were taking aggressive steps to rein in FEMA, shrink the agency and bottleneck funding.

FEMA officials said Phillips stood out because he was willing to resist moves that would potentially hobble the agency’s work.

The Washington Post first reported Phillips’ departure.

CNN previously reported that Phillips described multiple incidents in which he said he had been physically teleported, including one in which he said he suddenly found himself at a Waffle House roughly 50 miles from where he had been moments earlier.

He later defended those remarks publicly, saying they reflected genuine spiritual experiences and citing biblical examples of supernatural transportation writing in one comment, “haters gonna hate.”

President Donald Trump later told CNN that Phillips’ claims “sounds a little strange” and said he would look into the matter: “I know nothing about teleporting or him, but I’ll find out about it right now.”

CNN also previously reported that Phillips had a long record of inflammatory public statements before joining FEMA, including violent rhetoric directed at political opponents, repeated promotion of false election fraud claims, and comments warning that migrants were coming to kill Americans while urging podcast listeners to arm themselves.

https://www.newschannel5.com/us-new...fle-house-ousted-from-agency-sources-say
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Re: Myles Garrett Traded IrishDawg42 06/26/26 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
If this is that high on your priority list of the laws NFL players have broken you really need to take another look at things.

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Would it be an issue if he kills someone?

As I said, coulda, shoulda, woulda didn't.

Ohio State Highway Patrol (OSHP) alone issues around 100,000 to 106,000 speed violations annually. That doesn't even include county and city police forces.

poke

It's more than that, it's actually 214,121 citations in the past 12 months (Just OSHP) statepatrol.ohio.gov/dashboards-statistics/ostats-dashboards/speed-dashboard , but, Of those violations only 9,756 are 30+ MPH category which is where Myles is trending....then 71,624 in the 20-29 MPH range, which is considered high speed related.

The state also sees approximately 27,000-30,000 speed related crashes annually. THIRTY THOUSAND that are attributed to speed.

Letting your 5 year old play with a loaded gun... He could've hurt himself... woulda shoulda coulda didn't... great philosophy in life..

You are a great debater in your own mind.
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Re: Browns News cont. PrplPplEater 06/26/26 05:04 PM
My personal thoughts on the QBs is that as bad as Watson is, he is still far and away the best QB we have. That said, we may let on that we feel Shedeur is winning the QB competition to drive up his outside perceived value.
I dislike Watson completely, never wanted him, was always against everything to do with him, but I would not be surprised in the least to see us trade Shedeur and roll with Watson.


I mean, in the end, I don't think we actually have a QB on the roster. Period. However, we have to roll with someone. Shedeur isn't a starting QB in this league unless he figures out how to fix a LOT of things with himself, so our best play with him is to turn the 5th rounder we spent on him into something better. Watson is here this year no matter what, and then likely gone. Unless he plays at a level he hasn't approached in nearly a decade, he's done here. IF he can somehow perform at his 2018-2020 level, he could get an extension (which would allow us to work some of the dead cap in what is currently set to be void years). Gabriel throws a LOT less INTs and has a marginally higher completion percentage, but he's a dink & dunker. Maybe that's on the OLine and the lack of WRs, maybe it was hyper-conservative playcalling, maybe it was him. Maybe it was all three. He was efficient and took care of the ball, though. Sanders gambled more, but threw a lot of up-for-grabs balls that shouldn't have ever been thrown. Some paid off, a lot did not. Gabriel had the higher YPA in college - by a full yard per attempt; that's a big difference. However, for some reason, he was 1.5 yards per attempt lower last year. I think it comes down to Gabriel had the sense to protect the ball where Sanders is just out there playing ball, but not really thinking. With a better OLine and WRs, we just might see Gabriel go back to having the better. Theoretically, Monken's style suits Gabriel's college traits perfectly and Monken's schematic history shares a lot with what Gabriel did in college: RPOs, QB autonomy, horizontal & vertical spacing.
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