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That's the way it works... They blame others for doing the exact thing they themselves are doing.

A coaching change would be utter foolishness.

He isn't perfect by any means, but he's a 2-time Coach of the Year winner having a down year because we have no QB, no OLine, and no WRs and literally 20+% of our roster is rookies and it goes to ~30% when you include the sophomores. What the heck do people expect from him??

My guess is that you probably are. But then again without some optimism and hope what else do we have? #keepthefaith

That would be a prudent strategy. We should follow the same path as last year. Trade back if possible and pick up another1st for the 2027 draft. If we don't pick a QB this year and roll with Shedeur, you have the picks to move up next year to take a QB if he doesn't work out. Of course, it will probably take the 2 #1's we'll have plus a first in 2028 to do it but with a good draft this coming year we should have a solid O-Line and the deep threat WR in place. Am I being too optimistic?

I would love it if we could trade back a few picks with our 1st pick and get Fano, then get a combo of Lomu and WR Denzel Boston with our next two picks.

Another thing that AB and KS had to deal with the past few years is all the injuries to the QB's and the O-Line. I don't think that's mentioned enough. Our O-Line has aged and if anyone wants to blame AB for that I say simply he didn't have the draft capitol to replace them because all those pics went to Houston. He tried by drafting Zinter, Wypler and some FA"s. Those guys may pan out but they weren't top of the draft picks. Again, as we all know the DW trade killed us. If we had all those high picks on our roster things would look different for us now.

Oober I concur whole heartily. A coaching change now will set us back. The new coach will want his players and make scheme changes. We just had a great draft and made a good trade and signed some decent players. We look like we're moving forward so stay the course and add some good draft picks and some solid FAs. I would give AB and KS another year.

They'll hit the weights and get bigger and stronger.

I think this whole thing is dumb.

Unless you have a sure-fire upgrade in mind for HC and a plan to keep the defensive side of the ball in place, the high likelihood is that a coaching change would end up being a regression.


People who want the coach fired without any idea of how we're going to improve there is simply punching your ticket to continue riding the same carousel we're on.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the insurance relief that kicks in for the upcoming season doesn't help us in getting rid of Watson before the end of next season. The dead money escalation that will happen is still too much (hence why we need to hold him for the 2026 season). That insurance relief will, however, allow us to function somewhat in FA.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

You're making too much sense for some people to wrap their minds around it.

Everyone knows what needs to happen. Watson and his cap hit need to be gone, and we need to restock on talent after not having first rounders for a while.

Unless it was Berry and/or Stefanski who drove the fully-guaranteed albatross contract that flipped Watson's decision to come here, then holding the consequences of that move against them doesn't make sense.

... and before anyone says it, my assumption is still that the contract and getting him to come here when he initially said no was Haslam. I think there would've been firings already if that wasn't the case.

They drafted Drake Maye.

He went 340 of 474 passing. That is a 71.7% completion rate. He passed for 4203 yards with 30td's and 8int's and a passer rating of 112.9.

Everything gets easier once you have your QB. The entire NFL knows that. It's not as complicated as you are making it sound.

Actually, they can choose to take the 1-year salary cap hit like Denver did with Russel Wilson. With Watson and JOK's insurance money cap relief for this season it will offset some of that extra cap hit. They can stay a very young team in 2026 with as many as 30 1st and 2nd year players on the 53 and then start 2027 with a lot of cap space to work with. If I am interviewing for new GM and coach that is what I would sell Haslam.

Now Berry and Stefanski will use the insurance money as cap relief keep Watson on the roster in 2026 and try to build off of 2025 and field a more competitive team in 2026 by selling Haslam on if they use the space, they have to fill a couple of the Oline holes and try to improve the Offense to be at least average or a middle of the league offense. With the caliber defense already assembled the team can be competitive in 2026 and keeping Watson on the team in 2026 is best for the team salary cap wise. I would assume that is what Berry and Stefanski are selling to Haslam.

Now what will Haslam do after Sunday's game?

‘Both have made mistakes. But I feel they have learned from mistakes…..”

I’m interested to know how you come to that conclusion, or should I say “that feeling’”?
Maybe our 7 wins and 25 losses the last 2 seasons guided you or what happened between all our losses and today to give you such confidence of trust out of nowhere?

“Together they know the pulse of the team and what needs to happen”

Didn’t they know what was needed to happen the last two seasons when we lost almost every game we played? I mean how do you come to the conclusion that after 25 losses in 2 seasons they suddenly know the “pulse of the team” and what’s needed?

Just interested to understand your thought process because that kind of “awakening” is quite unusual after six seasons in charge.

Another thing I find quite odd is this. They helped elect a man who is playing the part of Putin's puppet and then call us the communists. It really is true that every accusation they hurl at us is just another confession.

I don't think either team moves on from their HC, but here you go.

Because he is the better player at this time. Fano is a JR and a 3 year starter who has played 2,204 snaps in his career and according to PFF he was the #1 OT in all of college football in 2024 and put up good grades again this year to be ranked the #14 OT. Lomu is a RSO and a 2 year starter who has played 1,620 snaps so far in his college career and has put up good grades but not nearly as dominating as Fano.

From PFF:

16. T Spencer Fano, Utah Utes

Fano is a bit light on the scale for an NFL offensive lineman, but you won't find many other drawbacks in his scouting report. He plays with great pad level and flexibility, providing excellent leg drive and impactful run-blocking in any blocking scheme. His arm length appears adequate to play tackle with vice-grip hand strength and a patient pass-blocking style. He's a scheme-versatile, starting-caliber offensive lineman with All-Pro potential.


43. T Caleb Lomu, Utah Utes

Lomu is green in experience but shows a very promising future in college and the NFL. He has the requisite size, though he is on the lighter side with average arm length. He is a flexible player, enabling him to get low in his stance with good power and low pad level. He has a strong leg drive and a finisher's mentality in the run game. His kick slides cover good ground, and he showcases excellent balance and anticipation of where pressure is coming from. Lomu's punch timing and aim need to be more consistent, but that is a trait he can learn. He shows the potential to be a starting offensive tackle with impact success as a zone blocker.

The Browns org cannot move off of DW until designating him a June 1 2027 cut after the 2026 league year ends. The new guys - if that happens - can choose to not-want DW all they want...he is here and on the 53 for all of the 2026 season.

Thanks son.

If Berry and Stefanski stay Sanders will be the 2026 Browns starter. If they are fired and there is regime change the entire QB room will be different in 2026.

Looking at the big picture. Considering everything.

If Haslam feels like a change is needed it is Berry that IMO should be fired.

However, even though there is a case to be made for that action.

I would not fire anyone.

IMO Berry and Stefanski are in a better position to improve the team than anyone else coming in from the outside as a new hire.

Together they know the pulse of the team and what needs to happen.

Both have made mistakes. But I feel they have learned from mistakes and will be better at their jobs.

If Haslam decides to make the change then Berry should be fired and a new GM can decide if he wants Stefanski or someone else.

Trump literally regurgitates Putin's talking points on Ukraine. Since the begining of the conflict. Sorry - calling it a conflict isn't really correct.... since Russia invaded and started the aggression.