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Re: Prayers please for my mom YTownBrownsFan 04/09/26 08:34 PM
She is now at the rehab facility. She is stronger, and could actually push herself back up in the bed. They will mainly be doing rehab to get her leg strength back. She had an infection, and now that it has to fight the antibiotics, she's starting to kick it's backside. wink

Thank you all for the prayers. I strongly believe that God hears them all, and while He may have different plans than we do, I do believe that He often does the very thing we needed. Praise God!
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Re: Carson Schwesinger DROY bonefish 04/09/26 08:14 PM
His second season should be fun to watch.

Based upon his rookie season we are in for a treat.
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Re: Random NFL News PitDAWG 04/09/26 06:47 PM
Sounds a lot like them just "doing what they've been doing" at this point.
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Re: Myles Day of the Dawg 04/09/26 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by PREACHER1
I am torn on Myles, love him, hes been the one thing we have that keeps me excited every Sunday. If he stays great, but if someone comes with 3 ones+ I would hate losing him but the Browns could rebuild this thing much faster!

I believe the Browns feel that with this defense if they can have an improved offense they can contend in the AFC North. They need to finish the Oline rebuild and find some more weapons at receiver and hope that either Sanders can take a leap in his development or Watson somehow returns to 2020 form. If neither happens and the team gets off to another bad start to the season, I expect Garrett to get traded at the trade deadline. Many experts are saying the 2027 draft class has potential to be one of the best draft classes of all time. I do not see the Browns trading him before then because this draft class is not seen like that. There will be 3 receivers maybe more that will have a higher draft grade than Carnell Tate. Let's face it if Arch Manning were coming out this year, he would be #1 overall before Mendoza. Dante Moore will also be rated very high at QB and a few other QBs are viewed as 1st round talents at this time. That class is being viewed as being deep at the marquee positions QB, WR, and DE.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 FATE 04/09/26 06:30 PM
Wow. The funniest thing is that this isn't a joke.


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Re: Random NFL News PREACHER1 04/09/26 06:18 PM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20
Justice Department opens investigation into NFL

The Justice Department has opened an investigation into whether the National Football League has engaged in anticompetitive tactics that harm consumers, according to people familiar with the situation.

The Sports Broadcasting Act grants the league limited antitrust protection to allow the teams to collectively negotiate packages of TV rights. Media companies, regulators and members of Congress have raised concerns in recent months over how difficult it is for consumers to be able to watch their favorite sports games as a result of rights deals in which leagues offer smaller packages of games to streamers.


Full article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/justice-department-opens-investigation-into-nfl/ar-AA20w86L

The other leagues better watch this closely. MLB, teams have special channels that are only available on certain subscriber venders. Then, Even if you subscribe to MLB baseball, local games are blacked out on that SUBSCRIPTION service to local communities.

It's all getting a little out of control. It is making more money for super stars to get rich giving us entertainment, but at the same time, when is enough..enough?

I pay $22 per month for MLB to watch my San Francisco Giants, and they black out the Reds, Indians and Pirates games, I'm 2 1/2 - 3 hours away from all three?
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Re: Random NFL News IrishDawg42 04/09/26 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20
Justice Department opens investigation into NFL

The Justice Department has opened an investigation into whether the National Football League has engaged in anticompetitive tactics that harm consumers, according to people familiar with the situation.

The Sports Broadcasting Act grants the league limited antitrust protection to allow the teams to collectively negotiate packages of TV rights. Media companies, regulators and members of Congress have raised concerns in recent months over how difficult it is for consumers to be able to watch their favorite sports games as a result of rights deals in which leagues offer smaller packages of games to streamers.


Full article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/justice-department-opens-investigation-into-nfl/ar-AA20w86L

The other leagues better watch this closely. MLB, teams have special channels that are only available on certain subscriber venders. Then, Even if you subscribe to MLB baseball, local games are blacked out on that SUBSCRIPTION service to local communities.

It's all getting a little out of control. It is making more money for super stars to get rich giving us entertainment, but at the same time, when is enough..enough?
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Re: Random NFL News 3rd_and_20 04/09/26 05:34 PM
Justice Department opens investigation into NFL

The Justice Department has opened an investigation into whether the National Football League has engaged in anticompetitive tactics that harm consumers, according to people familiar with the situation.

The Sports Broadcasting Act grants the league limited antitrust protection to allow the teams to collectively negotiate packages of TV rights. Media companies, regulators and members of Congress have raised concerns in recent months over how difficult it is for consumers to be able to watch their favorite sports games as a result of rights deals in which leagues offer smaller packages of games to streamers.


Full article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/justice-department-opens-investigation-into-nfl/ar-AA20w86L
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Re: Prayers please for my mom PREACHER1 04/09/26 05:15 PM
Praying For You Mom's Healing in Jesus Name!
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Re: Iranian War northlima dawg 04/09/26 04:37 PM
Supposedly, there is no plan that was printed out and agreed to/signed by the parties.

A little explanation about the different plans. Somebody/everybody is lying their asses off.
And the fighting continues today with only a few ships getting through

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/9/has-irans-10-point-plan-changed-as-jd-vance-claims
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Re: More Music FATE 04/09/26 04:07 PM
#underrated
#twinspin





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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 04/09/26 04:03 PM
Army survivors of deadly attack in Kuwait dispute Pentagon's account, say unit "was unprepared" to defend itself

Survivors of the deadliest Iranian attack on U.S. forces since the war began have disputed the Pentagon's description of events and said their unit in Kuwait was left dangerously exposed when six service members were killed and more than 20 wounded.

Speaking publicly for the first time, members of the targeted unit offered CBS News a detailed account of the attack and its harrowing aftermath from the perspective of those on the ground.

The members CBS News spoke to disputed the description of events from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who described the drone as a "squirter" — in that it squirted through the defenses of a fortified unit inside Kuwait.

"Painting a picture that 'one squeaked through' is a falsehood," one of the injured soldiers told CBS News. "I want people to know the unit … was unprepared to provide any defense for itself. It was not a fortified position."

That service member, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because of rigid media restrictions within the military, said that in spite of the carnage that ensued, those inside the charred and splintered compound responded with swiftness, ingenuity and valor that saved lives.

"I don't think that the security environment or any leadership decision diminishes in any way their sacrifice or their service," the member of the Army's 103rd Sustainment Command said in an interview. "Those soldiers put themselves in harm's way and … I'm immensely proud of them, and their family should be proud of them."

These first eyewitness accounts, along with photos and videos of the attack's aftermath obtained exclusively by CBS News, offer the first descriptions of what occurred March 1 at the thinly fortified Kuwaiti port facility on the day of the Iranian drone strike.

In the hours before the attack, incoming missile alarms had signaled to a crew of about 60 troops to take cover in a cement bunker while a ballistic missile flew overhead. But around 9:15 a.m., an all-clear alert sounded. Officers removed their helmets and returned to their desks in the wood and tin workspace, about the width of three trailers.

From there they resumed managing the movement of equipment, munitions and personnel across the Middle East.

About 30 minutes later, "everything shook," one soldier told CBS News. "And it's something like what you see in the movies. Your ears are ringing. Everything's fuzzy. Your vision is blurry. You're dizzy. There's dust and smoke everywhere."

Dazed, the service member surveyed a grisly scene: "Head wounds, heavy bleeding, lots of perforated eardrums, and then just shrapnel all over, so folks are bleeding from their abdomen, bleeding from arms, bleeding from legs."

A video shows smoke billowing from the building, fires smoldering. The blast killed six — the deadliest attack on U.S. troops since 2021 — and injured more than 20 others.

It was a direct hit.

"Get off the X"

About one week before the launch of Operation Epic Fury, most American soldiers and airmen stationed in Kuwait were relocated to positions in Jordan and Saudi Arabia and further away from Iranian missile range. Some soldiers said leadership advised them they wouldn't be gone long — to pack for 30 days and leave behind most personal equipment, including their military-issued computers. The goal: don't be a target.

"The way it was described was 'Get off the X,'" meaning away from the danger zone, one soldier who just returned from deployment explained.

But for several dozen members of the Army's 103rd Sustainment Command at a major U.S. base south of Kuwait City, there were a different set of orders: pack up everything and relocate to Port of Shuaiba, a smaller military outpost off Kuwait's southern coast.

The tactical operation center was similar to structures commonplace during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — before the rise of drone warfare. Steel-reinforced concrete barriers known as T-walls surrounded the building. These types of barriers are designed to shield service members from the blast of a mortar or rocket but offer no protection from aerial attacks.

"It's just kind of a classic, older military base," one soldier recalled. "Some small barriers. There's a bunch of little tin buildings where we can set up makeshift offices."

From there, a logistics staff would manage the operational and informational flow of munitions, equipment and personnel across the Middle East theater. Still, the soldiers told CBS News, they had questions about why they remained well within range of Iran's missiles and drones. One soldier said they saw intelligence showing the post was on a list of potential Iranian targets.

"We moved closer to Iran, to a deeply unsafe area that was a known target," the soldier said. "I don't think there was a good reason ever articulated."

He said they were protected by little more than a thin layer of vertical standing blast barricades that did not provide cover from above.

"From a bunker standpoint, that's about as weak as one gets," he said.

Asked to describe the degree of fortification, he responded: "I mean, I would put it in the none category. From a drone defense capability … none."

A Pentagon spokesperson declined to comment on the soldiers' claims, citing an active investigation into the Port of Shuaiba attack.

In a post on X addressing prior CBS News reporting on the incident, Assistant Secretary of Defense Sean Parnell said "every possible measure has been taken to safeguard our troops — at every level" and that "[t]he secure facility was fortified with 6-foot walls."

"It was chaos"

As the war got underway, it became clear that Iran would be moving away from a conventional defense and leaning more heavily on cheap and plentiful drones — an arsenal that has changed the battle calculus in places like Ukraine.

It was one of those Iranian Shahed drones that detonated directly at the center of the U.S. soldiers' worksite.

"It was chaos," another injured soldier described. "There was no single line of patients to triage. You're on one side of the fire or you're on the other side of the fire."

The soldiers, according to witnesses, triaged themselves with makeshift bandages, braces and tourniquets. They commandeered civilian vehicles to drive the wounded to two local Kuwaiti hospitals in the Kuwait City suburb of Fahaheel.

"One of the hardest things for me is that I know we didn't get everybody out, so I know that at this point there are still soldiers inside there that still haven't been identified and evacuated," one survivor said of the tense moments en route to the hospital before other teams extracted the remaining fallen.

"Telling the truth is important"

Word of Hegseth's description of the events at a press conference in Washington did not sit well with some of the survivors. The secretary had described the drone as a "squirter" that "happened to hit a tactical operations center that was fortified, but these are powerful weapons."

And while several of those familiar with the events on the ground did not agree with the description, they did not want their remarks to be misconstrued.

"It's not my intent to diminish morale or to disparage the Army or the Department of War more holistically, but I do think that telling the truth is important and we're not going to learn from these mistakes if we pretend these mistakes didn't happen," one soldier said.

Asked if the attack was an inherent reality of engaging in combat, he agreed.

"That's true," he said.

Asked if this attack was preventable, the soldier added: "In my opinion, absolutely, yes."

"I am very sad for their loss and it's something I'll carry with me for the rest of my life," he said. "But I'm also immensely proud of them and their sacrifice, and their family should be too."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-war-kuwait-drone-attack-survivors-us-army/
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Re: Goofy Immortal Part Deux PitDAWG 04/09/26 03:25 PM
Reno 911 was a hilarious show!
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 04/09/26 02:53 PM
Here is a helpful hint Peen.

Russia attacked Ukraine. Ukraine didn't attack Russia. Those things are opposites. Did that help?

You sound exactly like the U.S. did before we were forced to enter WW2. We sat back and did nothing until eventually we were attacked. By then Hitler was nearly impossible to stop.

When you attack a nation that's an offensive move. When yo have to defend yourself from an attack that's a defensive move. NATO is for defensive purposes. If you want to build an alliance you do that before you attack. Not wait until you create a mess and then tell them, "I broke it now you fix it."
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 04/09/26 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Not going to lambast. OK, it is all our fault.

Seems the country is lost, so as you say, IDGAF. Have fun in the next generation of country. Hope it works out for you.

That seems par for the course. Our generation has left future generations with a filthy planet and debt that goes beyond repayment and you DGAF.

At least I railed against those things because I did and do GAF. Let me guess, you still don't GAF. Nothing about that surprises me.
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 04/09/26 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
According to Iran's Constitution, the Supreme Leader is responsible for the delineation and supervision of "the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran," which means that he sets the tone and direction of Iran's domestic and foreign policies. The Supreme Leader also is commander-in-chief of the armed forces and controls the Islamic Republic's intelligence and security operations; he alone can declare war or peace. He has the power to appoint and dismiss the leaders of the judiciary, the state radio and television networks, and the supreme commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. He also appoints six of the twelve members of the Council of Guardians, the powerful body that oversees the activities of Parliament and determines which candidates are qualified to run for public office.

The Supreme Leader's sphere of power is extended through his representatives, an estimated 2,000 of whom are sprinkled throughout all sectors of the government and who serve as the Leader's clerical field operatives. In some respects the Supreme Leader's representatives are more powerful than the president's ministers and have the authority to intervene in any matter of state on the Supreme Leader's behalf.

You bring up a lot of maybe's and could be's but there's nothing to indicate that's correct. All sources are indicating that these terms are being negotiated by the actual powers of Iran. Not some 4th string diplomat.

Here is the link you forgot to provide for the above information you posted. You have a habit of doing that. As to the actual thought you posted, my comment was a supposition as indicated by using the word wonder.


https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html

Did it or did it not answer your question? It explains exactly how their government structure works. Maybe if you did that much homework trying to find the answers to your own questions as you did looking up my sources I wouldn't have to provide the answers for you. But yeah, that's my fault. rolleyes

You're welcome BTW
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 04/09/26 02:24 PM
Australian spy plane operators in Middle East not sharing intel with US for offensive operations, defence boss says | US-Israel war on Iran | The Guardian https://share.google/ovLIWUxhY9TkMY3Cu

There's nothing to disagree about. It's absolutely the other NATO countries position that this is an illegal war and they will not aid and abet, an illegal war. You can try and disagree with facts if you like but you know, you do you. Maybe you can start calling all those NATO countries communists or something?
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Re: Iranian War Ballpeen 04/09/26 02:19 PM
Not going to lambast. OK, it is all our fault.

Seems the country is lost, so as you say, IDGAF. Have fun in the next generation of country. Hope it works out for you.
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Re: Iranian War Ballpeen 04/09/26 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
There is every reason why they denied access for preemptive strikes from their bases.

If I am planning to do a bank robbery and you know that, and I ask you to use your garage to store my car before the event, do you let me?? Or does that make you an accessory to a crime?.

NATO countries clearly believe that according to international law, the strikes against Iran were illegal. They don't want to be part of or an accessory to actions that break international law. . period.

It's black and white and really simple.

We just disagree. It's that simple.
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Re: More Music bonefish 04/09/26 01:31 PM
Just beautiful.

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Re: Iranian War mgh888 04/09/26 12:24 PM
Well - I hear you and understand your frustration. Sad that you don't post here anymore because you're one of the more thoughtful posters. I could add more to support your observations of others but there is no need.

And yes - what you say about DOGE and being gouged makes sense and really exactly what I expected. The beat goes on....
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 04/09/26 12:08 PM
There is every reason why they denied access for preemptive strikes from their bases.

If I am planning to do a bank robbery and you know that, and I ask you to use your garage to store my car before the event, do you let me?? Or does that make you an accessory to a crime?.

NATO countries clearly believe that according to international law, the strikes against Iran were illegal. They don't want to be part of or an accessory to actions that break international law. . period.

It's black and white and really simple.
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Re: Iranian War Ballpeen 04/09/26 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by mgh888
I know that Hegseth and Trump like to think they are above any norms or international laws that govern conflict and war - but much like a country itself, a world without laws ... and more importantly a world where the countries that have signed up and agreed to those international laws do not obey them - then anarchy reigns.

If the US attacks and obliterates infrastructure, electric power plants etc - it is not a military objective. Those attacks would be classified as war crimes. All it does is hurt the people more. The ones that at one time Trump claimed to be going to help.

I am not in favor of knocking out utilities in mass. Maybe one here and there just to make the point. Just keep hammering away. Obviously, they have a few resources hidden away. Keep the eyes open and hammer them when they show up. They don't have many.

We need to get the other Nato countries involved in opening the strait. I do understand their reluctance; they are infested with radical Muslims in their countries. They have a big Muslim problem and are afraid they will rise up internally.

We need to get NATO involved,,, WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY HELP US? Tell me Peen,,, WHY?

We have an IDIOT in the white house that constantly berates them to no end. He places TARIFFS on them that they JUST laugh at because they know they are going to pass those tariffs on to the Americans that buy their products.

He's constantly threatening to take over Greenland. A country I might add that has said time and time again, that we have all the freedom we need to use them as a base of Military Operations... But this dumb moron can't figure out what that means.

If I'm a NATO nation, I tell Trump that he started this, you fix it.

As for Muslims, Most are peace loving folks... It's just the radical among them that are a problem as you said.... Much like the Republican Party in America. The MAGA wing is largely less smart... I know that because Trump himself said, Smart People Don't Like Him! so those that support him aren't all that smart.

Just to go back, we help in Ukraine. That is more a European problem. We helped in Chad, Croatia, the Faulklands, and those just come off the top of my head. There are probably others if I bothered to look it up. Even if those countries didn't want to help directly, I get it, they have major radical Muslim problem in their countries, there is no reason why they should deny us the ability to land at NATO bases or fly over their airspace.

I think there are 32 countries in NATO. Maybe we need to say we are going to pay our 1/32nd share of the cost to maintain our membership and start looking for other partners. What does Canada provide? Maybe we should say we will provide what Canada provides.

As for peaceful Muslims, no doubt many are peaceful, millions to be more on point, however that doesn't mitigate the millions who aren't. I don't think any of these conflicts are aimed at peaceful Muslims, only those who aren't.
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Re: Iranian War Ballpeen 04/09/26 11:26 AM
Originally Posted by mac
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
The problem as I see it, or at least wonder is do the leaders in Iran have control over the military? My feeling is there at least some elements of the Iranian military who are rogue from whoever says they are leading Iran. The military might have the power over some 4th string diplomat.



Iran's military leaders have control over Iran's government.

Iran has a military dictatorship..!

Thats what I am wondering. At least in part. It's been reported we have knocked out several layers of Iran's religious leadership. It makes we wonder how deep in to the pool the " leadership" can dip before various generals start to feel they hold the power? As Pit noted, Iran has a constitution of sorts, but that might not be worth the paper it is written on once various layers of existing leadership has been eliminated. This might explain why the truce if off to a rocky start. It is also worth noting that in any truce, just because it is announced doesn't mean the word gets out down the line instantly. I am sure that Iran is experiencing at least some sort of communication delays. It goes back to stories of Japanese soldiers who were abandoned on some Philippine island post who never got word of the end of WWII and were still fighting the war in to the late 50's.

We'll see where it all leads.
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