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I was watching a news show. They were discussing the reasoning for the war. One guy said Trump is lying about his reasons for starting the war. The other guy says what if he us not lying , that was his counter.

Not how dare you suggest the president would lie about his reasoning for the war but "what if he is not lying" that's were we are. News flash he is lying

Born in Willowick on the Lake.

My father got transferred to Harrisburg, Pa. when I was 3 and I lived there from age three to 12.

I played sports but really baseball was my game. My parents were Indians fans. Living there I really didn't know the Indians. I collected baseball cards and I loved the Milwaukee Braves because of their uniforms. Plus the only time I got to really watch baseball was "Home Run Derby." It was on Saturday mornings. I became a giant Hank Aaron fan because he never lost in HR Derby. My first baseball glove was a Warren Spahn. I collected all the Braves baseball cards.

We moved back to Cleveland In 1960. I delivered the Plain Dealer and would read the sports section every morning before I delivered my route. Read all week about how teams planned to stop Jim Brown. It never worked.

Later in life I moved to Atlanta got married had kids. I coached baseball for ten years.

Braves are my first team. Guardians my American League team.

Braves this year are crazy. Three key starters out till July. Lost the starting SS Kim fell on ice broke his hand. Lost the LF Profar for the season PED's second time. Profar was a signed free agent. Sean Murphy catcher is now coming back after surgery. Acuna now on the IL.

25-10 record best in MLB. Plus 81 run differential. Scored the most runs in MLB. 3rd in team era from rookie call ups and a waiver guy.
Chris Sale 6-1. Elder normally a 4.00 era 5th starter now has a low 2 era.
They have a 8.5 game lead and have not lost a series. Best 35 game start in team history.

It is totally nuts what they are doing. I was hoping to play .500 ball and stay in the race till July and then make run.

Crazy what the Braves are doing. Cavs advanced. Life is good.

Did rump loan it to her?

LOL. I live in New England so people will ask why I'm a Cardinals fan. Because they beat the Red Sox in the 1967 World Series. The kids in my class were so obnoxious rooting for the Sox I wanted to see them lose hence the Cardinals became my team! I became a Browns fan because they were on TV a lot back then playing the Cowboys, the Giants etc. and I liked guys like Leroy Kelly, Paul Warfield, Frank Ryan, Gary Collins, Walter Johnson, Jim Houston, Dale Lindsey heck I could go on and on. I love my Browns! Anybody born in the last 40 years or so has no idea the tradition the Browns have. They pretty much associate them with losing. That's basically true unfortunately.

My nephew's a big Cardinals fan... He's the outcast, lol No, he likes the Guardians also.

Damn, just apply common sense.

trump is who he is.

The issue is this blind cult following. Nothing disturbs the worship.

trump was right he can do anything no matter what. Defy the Constitution. Attempt to overthrow an election. "Find me x number of votes so I can win Georgia. On tape for all to hear. Lie like the truth is against the law.

Uneffing believable. I gave people way more credit than deserved.

I thought that in this case about our National Parks some logic or a sense of loyalty to the common good would apply.

I am wrong. None of that matters.

I agree. I don't care how good a season he has I would just want him to leave. Enough is enough.

Yeah Homewood, I really just want it to be over.

The tougher aspect in all this, what if he does play great this season, then everyone will be asking for him to stay.. I don't want that no matter what. I don't care if we go to the Super Bowl. I want him gone on the first bus possible.

One thing I am almost certain of... If Watson gets a contract extension, we will be just as miserable moving forward. They guy doesn't care about the game or his team in any way. It is 100% about money 100% of the time. It's such a waste of natural talent and to be able to turn it on and shut it down at will is a disgrace to the talent God gave him. He is just a selfish person by all accounts. THAT is the main reason I don't want him around our QB room.

We all as Browns fans would like to be rid of it. Anyone would be hard pressed to find a decision by a sports organization that has so adversely affected the team and the fans. Probably the worst of all time and it might not be close.

From the archives. We've been promoting buying American for decades now.....

Just to be clear I agree with you as well.

Facts are not his friend. And as per usual he blames everyone for pointing out the things trump does instead of the man who are doing these things. It's what they do. What else can they do? They certainly can't defend his actions so they deflect by blaming us for it.

Irish, I agree with you and Pit also. I'm not saying I want to see DW start I'd rather see Shedeur but we have no say in which guy will start. Coach Monken is going to start the QB that gives us the best chance to win. That's his job as HC whether we like it or not. What a situation.

What is so difficult to understand here?

TDS?

WTF?

These are "Public Lands." They are for all of us Republicans, Democrats, Atheists, Independents, all Americans.

I don't care if your head is embedded in trump's rear end.

How about leaving the legacy of "our National Parks" to future generations to enjoy.

If you are that selfish and so trump deranged. Leave your head where it is embedded and enjoy that view.

Trump Devotion Syndrome?

He lies about everything.

You remain devoted.

He takes money away from food for the poor. The most un-Christian thing someone could do.

You remain devoted.

He cheats on all three of his wives.

You remain devoted.

He is convicted on 34 felony charges.

You remain devoted.

A jury finds him libel for sexually assaulting a woman.

You remain devoted.

He depicts himself as Jesus.

You remain devoted.

The list goes on and on while you remain devoted. Yes, that's a serious issue.

I agree unfortunately.

The fact I can't stand Watson the person and do not want him any where near my young QB room, doesn't change the facts. Facts are he was the 12th over all pick of the Texans, he led the entire NFL in passing yards for a year and he was a very promising QB based on all of his physical traits.

The other facts are, he quit on his team, he had 25+ accusations that he paid money to to go away and he has not tried very hard while being in Cleveland, even when he wasn't hurt. He made a statement that he didn't want to play in Cleveland and turned down offers that were equal to other teams and only came here when the Browns came back to the table and kept raising the stakes to the point where any human being, even an evil one could not say no.

Now, fast forward 4 years. Watson is now in a conundrum or sorts. He is in the last year of his guaranteed contract with the Browns and he wants to score big again. So now, he finally cares enough to get off his butt and compete like he did the year he led the league. I don't think Shedeur Sanders can compete with that.

Monken doesn't care who is starting games as long as they are the best player to help him win.

For all purposes of this argument, we should all allow for the facts that Watson was/is the best "prospect" on this team based on proven past. It isn't like we signed a guy that was really good in his 20's and now he's in his 40's.. Watson is 30. I get that he has been injured for 2 years and they were legitimate injuries, but he should have been healthy last year, not this year. If he wants another contract, I wouldn't put it past him to take advantage of the Browns slow playing his return so they could get this insurance money and getting back into football shape in the process to go this last year and show teams in free agency he deserves another really big contract. Not only that, but he now has the tools to go get that contract. He has a loaded offense.

At the end of the day, this will be his last year in Cleveland, even if he is an All Pro this season and leads the Browns to the AFC Championship game. He did his time for signing the contract and now he is going to want out of Cleveland, he never wanted to be here in the first place.

For what it's worth, there isn't another QB on this team that I have complete faith in that they have the tools to lead this team back to the playoffs... frankly, I'm ready to watch some playoff football. We are signing a deal with the devil so that he can sign another soul wrenching contract away from us, but give me one year of great football and I will hate that trade just a little less.

Nothing that Sanders has done to lead up to this point says that he should be the automatic starter for Cleveland. As much as I want to believe he is the future and we need to nurture that, there are very little indicators that prove he can be anything more than a below average starter at this point. Don't get me started on Green... I love the enthusiasm, I love the athleticism, I love the potential he brings doing things no other QB has ever done entering the league, but he has shown nothing on film to date that translates directly to the NFL. I want him to be a generational player that changes the game forever, but as a rookie coming in, that just doesn't happen. I hope they give him enough leeway to stay around for the season and see how his skill set progresses. I also hope they can get a good group of plays to utilize him in real game situations to see how he reacts.

I also think Gabriel may be getting the raw end of the deal. No rookie QB comes in and becomes a pro bowler immediately... well except Sanders somehow, lol. But, with the regime change and everything, he is probably never going to even get the chance to develop. Maybe everyone can win and he showed SOMEONE, ANYONE enough to give the Browns a 5th or 6th rounder and he still gets that chance. More likely though, he gets put on someone's practice squad and we never see him in a live game again.

For now, Monken wants to get off to a fast start. He has enough to deal with installing two rookie wide receivers and installing a new offense. Watson is more likely the easiest avenue to get up and running quickly. I would be surprised if he isn't the starter going into training camp.

Just more TDS!!!

Well it only makes sense that he will show what he can really do. I mean after all it's a contract year. He's auditioning for the other 31 NFL teams and his future depends on it.

He never wanted to come here in the first place. He never wanted to be here. He had a no trade clause and after their initial offer he actually excluded the Browns from the list of teams he was willing to go to. Only when they backed up the Brinks truck did he finally agree to come here. But it's not because this is where he wanted to be. It's because the money was so much he felt he couldn't turn it down. He made that clear from the start and it showed.

This year is different because he won't be playing for the Browns. He'll be playing for himself.

What do you think this has been about from the very start? It's about the actions the trump administration has been taking..................

As of May 2026, the Trump administration is enacting significant changes to national parks, focusing on restructuring historical exhibits to emphasize American achievements, resulting in the removal of hundreds of displays regarding slavery and climate change. These actions, alongside a 25% reduction in staffing since 2025 and proposed 2027 budget cuts, are damaging to our National Parks.

https://ncph.org/history-at-work/trumps-attacks-on-national-parks-is-an-attack-on-public-history/

Trump administration finalizes plan to open pristine Alaska wildlife refuge to oil and gas drilling

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/24/nx-s1-5584883/trump-alaska-wildlife-refuge-oil-gas-drilling

You're just now coming to the understanding these things are a result of trump's actions and that's what this is about?

Erasing black history, slashing funding and opening up national lands to oil companies. Who did you think was responsible for these things? The Wicked Witch of the west?

Whether anyone wants to accept it or not Watson may still be a decent starting QB. His legal issues are now behind him and he's over his injuries. It doesn't mean he can't get hurt again and an Achilles injury is difficult to recover from. He still has the knowledge and experience to play QB in this league, but it will probably take some time to get back up to speed. I like Shedeur and hope he's good enough to be our QB and does well but it's conceivable DW may be just what we need for the present.

Obviously you don't get it.

Who cares where you have gone?

For crying out loud I gave you more credit.

This is about what is good for the people of this country.

Not your selfish point of view.

Follow the topic. The "National Parks" are "Public Land."

They are "our" shared resource to be enjoyed by the people.

They were created by men with foresight to protect what is beautiful and must be protected.

So it is ok by you that all that has gone into a National treasure enjoyed by billions of people to be ruined by a megalomaniac ?

Ok I have your warped view.

Sanders started taking #1 reps, he Watson more or less took over.

To me that means that Shedufus was having a hard time picking up the O. I feel that way based on the reports that Stefanski had to spend hours of one on one tutoring with Sanders throughout the season.

Monken isn't going to do that. Shedufus better get in to the playbook and pay attention in meetings.

I don't have anything against the parks. Off the top of my head I have been to the Smokies, Arcadia, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Death Valley, and Everglades. Probably a few of the lesser parks. I went to some sand dunes in Mich. that I think were a part of the system, as an example. I may take the train through the Cuyahoga Valley park though I have probably driven through areas before it was a park. Most of Alaska seems to be national park space so I was probably in one or two there.

Sorry if I don't share the same passion. I have done all the Eifel Tower bit before. I don't have any need to go do it again. Been there, done that.