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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 02:53 PM
Yes, "'BD' talking BS" like Pit posting 11 letters and thinking he made a point, instead of giving more evidence of BS.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots PitDAWG 09/12/26 02:46 PM
BD talking BS.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
And now there is legal precedent that makes it harder for opponents to check if it does happen.

Maybe you should look into why and how that happened.

I have dug in. You're the one that refuses to look beyond BS articles and "data" that you want to believe.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't want one party. I just don't want a party who opens the door to communists. I do see a bit of hope as the DEM leaders are trying to back off the communist agenda as they see it is starting to devour them. I hope it isn't too late. Most times it's harder to undo what has been done.


Unfortunately for your wants, it feels like the actions of the right are what is driving young people towards "communism." "Authoritarian" BS brings about a desire for its seeming opposite. In a similar vein, "running away" from "communism" (or even calling it fighting it) seems to have allowed the "authoritarian" BS to take root.

Why journalists are reluctant to call Trump an authoritarian and why that matters for democracy

Not saying I agree with everything in that link, but it's food for thought.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins PitDAWG 09/12/26 02:31 PM
At no time in our nation's history has a sitting president ever offered a cash reward directly for votes.

You try and conflate things as though they are the same and they are most certainly not.

I'll give you one example you mentioned. Student loan debt. We have students leaving college with tens of thousand if not over 100k in student loan debt. It's perfectly legal to file bankruptcy on your debts but not student loan debt. It's a caveat created strictly for young people starting out in life. It prevents them from buying a home and starting a family. To forgive those loans helps increase home sales and births.

It isn't some, "Hey, vote for me and I'll send you a check" scheme.

It puts student loan debts on equal footing with any other debt that you can legally wipe out with bankruptcy.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins Bull_Dawg 09/12/26 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Let's ignore how immoral it is to offer voters $5k to vote you into office. Good god. I can't even imagine your reaction if this had been a Biden/Harris pledge back in 2024 - but now because it's Trump you accept the bribery and corruption as if it's standard operating procedure in America. And if you think Trump would come through .... read the article I posted above and the other 15 times Trump promised a check, rebate or dividend and NEVER came thru .... or maybe that's an inconvinient truth that you'll choose to not pay attention to.

It was basically an Andrew Yang pledge back in 2020. "Freedom dividends" were a big part of his campaign.

Yes, Trump is trying to "buy" votes in close to its barest and most straightforward form. But it's not really anything new. Yes, I find it awful, and a big part of that is because its him and I want nothing to do with him continuing to be in office. Yet, free college/loan forgiveness is ultimately more or less the same thing, as is campaigning on tax cuts, so acting like offering people things if they win an election hasn't been "standard operating procedure" is a bit disingenuous. Trump is just not even trying to make it sound better. Unfortunately, he's not offering the cash up front for the vote which would be illegal. Since the "pledge" is to every American regardless of whom they voted for it is most likely "legal."

Can he actually do it? Maybe. Would it probably cause bad inflation if he could? Probably. Would Trump do more damaging things if he has control of both houses? Almost definitely.

Still I find the trying to whitewash how the system has worked aggravating.
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Re: Random NFL News PitDAWG 09/12/26 02:14 PM
Melbourne is 17 to 19 hours ahead of Los Angeles, depending on the time of year and daylight saving changes. You can track current conversions live using the Los Angeles to Melbourne Time Converter.

https://savvytime.com/converter/ca-los-angeles-to-australia-melbourne
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins PitDAWG 09/12/26 01:59 PM
If any democrat anywhere had proposed such a thing he would be calling it trying to buy an election and communism. We both know it. But not when trump and the Republicans do it.

They are great and making accusations based on myths but when the facts smack them right in the face and it's one of their own? That's right, crickets.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins bonefish 09/12/26 01:55 PM
"All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state."

hear this - vote for us and I will give you $5000.

and he says the 2020 election was rigged because he lost.

geez hard to understand how anyone would believe a single word coming from his lying lips.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots PitDAWG 09/12/26 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
And now there is legal precedent that makes it harder for opponents to check if it does happen.

Maybe you should look into why and how that happened.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots PitDAWG 09/12/26 01:49 PM
Why do you insist on calling everything posed to help all Americans communism?

What do you call a president offering to "give" all American adults $5000 if his party wins but only if his party wins?

Maybe you should take a long look in your own back yard before telling your neighbors to cut their grass.

And as per usual you avoid the point. Republicans want control over the elections. That's one party. They want control to say who can and who can't vote while at the same time offering a cash reward if they win. Can't you see what's really going on here?
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 09/12/26 01:44 PM
Not one single, damned thing.
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread 3rd_and_20 09/12/26 01:04 PM
I'm gonna guess 5 wins.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins mgh888 09/12/26 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by bonefish
Issuing a $5,000 check to roughly 245 million adult U.S. citizens carries a price tag of $1.2 trillion to $1.3 trillion. For context, that is nearly equal to the entire annual discretionary budget of the federal government.

So don't count the money till it hits your hand. Don't worry your math will never be challenged.

It's a lot no doubt, though it probably won't happen. The Dems are probably going to gain at least one house. I also doubt it would be every adult in the country. I am sure there would have to be some sort of qualifier attached. I wouldn't want it to be a very high bar to meet, but wouldn't want people walking down the street handing checks to every crackhead sleeping on the sidewalks.

It would probably be cheaper in the long run over Medicare for all, free tuition, so on and so forth.

Let's ignore how immoral it is to offer voters $5k to vote you into office. Good god. I can't even imagine your reaction if this had been a Biden/Harris pledge back in 2024 - but now because it's Trump you accept the bribery and corruption as if it's standard operating procedure in America. And if you think Trump would come through .... read the article I posted above and the other 15 times Trump promised a check, rebate or dividend and NEVER came thru .... or maybe that's an inconvinient truth that you'll choose to not pay attention to.
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Re: Trump, hoping to salvage midterms, makes a dubious pledge to give every US adult $5,000 if GOP wins Ballpeen 09/12/26 09:50 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Issuing a $5,000 check to roughly 245 million adult U.S. citizens carries a price tag of $1.2 trillion to $1.3 trillion. For context, that is nearly equal to the entire annual discretionary budget of the federal government.

So don't count the money till it hits your hand. Don't worry your math will never be challenged.

It's a lot no doubt, though it probably won't happen. The Dems are probably going to gain at least one house. I also doubt it would be every adult in the country. I am sure there would have to be some sort of qualifier attached. I wouldn't want it to be a very high bar to meet, but wouldn't want people walking down the street handing checks to every crackhead sleeping on the sidewalks.

It would probably be cheaper in the long run over Medicare for all, free tuition, so on and so forth.
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Re: Post office complicit in plans to deny millions of mail in ballots Ballpeen 09/12/26 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
We get it. You want only one party, the one who has brought false charges they had to drop against their political opponents, who have brought charges they couldn't even get indictments on and who have targeted dozens of people, universities, democratic lawmakers, Past Administration Officials & Intelligence Figures all totaling in the dozens to be in charge of investigating and being honest to the American people in their findings.

Some people never learn.

I don't want one party. I just don't want a party who opens the door to communists. I do see a bit of hope as the DEM leaders are trying to back off the communist agenda as they see it is starting to devour them. I hope it isn't too late. Most times it's harder to undo what has been done.
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Re: Practice Squad and waiver claims Ballpeen 09/12/26 09:20 AM
Bub Means Business.
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Re: Random NFL News Ballpeen 09/12/26 09:14 AM
Much depends on the coach. Some don't want the QB to make tackles. I suppose those on the board who don't want a QB who won't tackle also don't want those who run out of bounds or those who slide rather than try for every yard possible. Every yard counts, right?

Maybe we should work the QB's on the sled for a portion of practice, maybe run a few Oklahoma drills.
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Re: Iran War... MoU and forward mgh888 09/12/26 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by northlima dawg
We hit 2 Iranian oil tankers this morning.
Somebody made a 275 million dollar bet yesterday that oil prices were going to go up

Corruption at it's finest ... but the MAGA fanboys are more worried about a ficticisous narrative about voting .... and then of course, no-one has mentioned the Epstein Files and how up to half of the documents that were ordered/supposed to be released are still unreleased. MURICA ! FREEDUMB !!
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? mgh888 09/12/26 07:37 AM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
2020 was a stolen election plain and simple. We all watched and Trump was leading and ballots were found, dumped, etc... after 2am in a few very key areas. I do not believe in coincidence, but I believe the election was stolen there was tactics used to cheat. I will never agree with early voting, mail in ballots that is not absentee, people not registered by a certain date being illegible. Allowing voting with no ID, ETC....

Nothing in your post is true or factual.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 YTownBrownsFan 09/12/26 05:04 AM
Guards are now only one half game out of first in the Central.
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread FATE 09/12/26 04:51 AM
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? Day of the Dawg 09/12/26 02:06 AM
2020 was a stolen election plain and simple. We all watched and Trump was leading and ballots were found, dumped, etc... after 2am in a few very key areas. I do not believe in coincidence, but I believe the election was stolen there was tactics used to cheat. I will never agree with early voting, mail in ballots that is not absentee, people not registered by a certain date being illegible. Allowing voting with no ID, ETC....
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Re: Browns Season Record Prediction Thread Day of the Dawg 09/12/26 01:54 AM
It's the Browns the plan is to draft a franchise QB in 2027. This team will win 7 or 8 games and screw that plan up.
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