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Re: What Now Pt. 2 ScottPlayersFacemask 01/10/26 05:35 AM
I liked Kevin. I wanted him to stay for another year.

I see the comments about Kevin is gone, Berry should be gone.

A couple possibilities as to why Berry is still here.

Ownership could look at this team and see the progress it made with drafting of players. They might look at it and say we had one of the top defenses in the league. We have some really good parts on offense with these rookies. We need a pieces on offense. If we clean house with our GM and HC, they might just blow this all up and start over again. We just need a new voice leading this team and try to keep our DC and Rees.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 ScottPlayersFacemask 01/10/26 05:18 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
The seeming popularity of the Rees as OC or HC suggestions perplex me.

I mean we have seen it time and time again where they play calling has been slammed consistently on this very board.

I certainly understand the argument that It's more about executing the plays called than the actual plays being called. I have made that same argument myself many times. I've also made the argument that doing exactly what your opponent is expecting you to do is not the smart approach to fourth down calls.

What the issue boils down to for me is this. When it's your OC making those play calls, when it's he who is in charge of the O, why is it he keeps calling plays this O is in no way ready for or equipped to execute? The O said of the ball was obviously the weak link here. And Rees had his hands involved in all of it. I chalk it up to not having enough talent on the roster period. But if Stefanski is being blamed for the O why in the world would people not lump Rees in with that?

I know people can say, "Yeah but t was Stefanski's system and plays". But his system isn't overly complicated and the plays for the most part aren't complicated either. Why would anyone think a more complicated O in a more complicated system would be a benefit? That's directed just at people who blame the whole ball of wax on Stefanski and are trying to give Rees a free pass..

Just a reply to your post Pit. I agree about the executing the plays.

I said this after the last game. I can't speak for previous years of Kevin's playcalling. Watching Kevin and Rees calling plays were different, I guess the word would be structure. Kevin didn't use much motion at all in the beginning of the year. By the end of the year, we were using it regularly to uncover man to man or zones. Now, the one thing I do want to bring up as a possbililty, we did have a lot of young players. Maybe they didn't want to overload them. I don't know, just trying to give a possibility of what could've been the reason for it.

The main thing was the formations we used. Kevin really didn't build off of looks. He would run a play with a look and it was an end around with Corley. Then you wouldn't see that look the rest of the game. This happened quite a bit. When Rees was calling, he would run that play. Then throughout the game, he would run that formation with Corley in motion and run play action or a dive/off tackle with Judkins. You could see in the end zone view of the replays the LBs either sliding to the side of the motion or after snap take one step that direction then have to adjust back to the other side.
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Re: More Music TTTDawg 01/10/26 03:30 AM
Joe Bonamassa-- Drive - (Live At Carnegie Hall - An Acoustic Evening)

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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates Bull_Dawg 01/10/26 03:08 AM
Hey coach Cig, you turned around the Hoosiers, but I bet you can't turn around the Browns. naughtydevil
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Re: Browns Fire Stefanski Milk Man 01/10/26 01:11 AM
Kev bids the fans a fond adieu.

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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates Jester 01/10/26 01:06 AM
I'm sure he learned a lot from it
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland Jester 01/10/26 01:05 AM
Trump says US will do something on Greenland 'whether they like it or not'
ALEXANDRA HUTZLER
Fri, January 9, 2026 at 6:28 PM EST
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Trump still wants US to take over GreenlandScroll back up to restore default view.
President Donald Trump on Friday continued to press for U.S. control of Greenland, telling reporters: "We are going to do something on Greenland whether they like it or not."

"Because if we don't do it, Russia or China will take over Greenland, and we're not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor," Trump said as he hosted oil executives at the White House to discuss investments in Venezuela.

The president has repeatedly said he wants to take over Greenland either by buying the autonomous island territory or by using military force, calling it a matter of national security despite fierce pushback from Greenland, Denmark and European allies.

US military is 'always an option' for Trump to acquire Greenland, White House official says

"Greenland is not for sale. I think our Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen and our Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt has made it very, very clear. Our country belongs to the Greenlandic people," Jacob Isbosethsen, Greenland’s head of representation to the United States, said to journalists on Thursday after a closed-door meeting with members of Congress.

When asked on Friday for how much money he believed it would take to get Greenland on board with his proposal, Trump said, "I'm not talking about money for Greenland yet. I might talk about that."

"I would like to make a deal, you know, the easy way. But if we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way," Trump said.

High-profile Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have also poured cold water on Trump's aim to acquire Greenland.

"I think it's been made clear from our Danish friends and from our friends in Greenland that that future does not include a negotiation. There's no willingness on their part to negotiate for the purchase or the change in title to their land, which they've had for so long," Sen. Roger Wicker, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said after meeting with Isbosethsen and Denmark's Ambassador to the United States Jesper Møller Sørensen on Thursday.

"There is no reason for a negotiation around who controls Greenland because Greenland and the United States and Denmark have been allies. We share the same values, we have worked cooperatively together," Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said after the meeting.

House Speaker Mike Johnson, one of Trump's top allies, notably dismissed any assertion that the U.S. would use military action to acquire Greenland.

"I don't think anybody's seriously considering that. And in the Congress, we're certainly not," Johnson said at a news conference on Wednesday.

Rubio says Trump wants to buy Greenland while White House dangles military option

ice President JD Vance on Thursday said to take Trump at his word on the issue and defended the administration's interest in the island territory.

"I guess my advice to European leaders and anybody else would be to take the president of the United States seriously," Vance told reporters at a press briefing with White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt.

"No. 1, Greenland is really important, not just to America's missile defense, but to the world's missile defense. No. 2, we know that there are hostile adversaries that have shown a lot of interest in that particular territory, that particular slice of the world," Vance said.

Next week, Secretary of State Marco Rubio is expected to meet with his counterparts from Denmark and Greenland after they requested an urgent meeting with him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-us-something-greenland-232840265.html
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Re: CBS Leading Head Coaching (Coordinators) Candidates Milk Man 01/10/26 12:46 AM
Originally Posted by Jester
Another guy that I am hearing great things about is Jeff Hafley DC Green Bay Packers

Hopefully, he's not too scarred by his first stint with the Browns during Pettine's tenure and the infamous Shanahan Power Point!
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 FATE 01/10/26 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
As an aside, my typing sucks. crazy

You can say that again!
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish 01/10/26 12:31 AM
There is no head coach in the NFL that could have won with the roster the last two years.

KS was not responsible for the roster.

There are reasons why KS is being interviewed by the teams who are looking for a head coach.

Those teams Giants, Titans, Ravens, Falcons, Raiders know why they want to consider him.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 WooferDawg 01/10/26 12:28 AM
KS has a very plausible defense for his lack of success in Cleveland. Top 3 reasons:

DW
DW
DW

I think if DW was not in the picture, the results would be different. The Houston Texans thank the Browns.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 YTownBrownsFan 01/10/26 12:16 AM
As an aside, my typing sucks. crazy
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 YTownBrownsFan 01/10/26 12:15 AM
As an aside, my typing sucks. crazy
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 YTownBrownsFan 01/10/26 12:13 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
I understand what you are saying.

I heard Mary K say behind the scenes Rees is very popular. And that the Browns interviewing him is serious.

He took the OC job to work with KS. He has said on many occasions KS is a great coach.

In my mind both Berry and Haslam know the failure was not on KS. Haslam looked around at the other NFL owners. He saw guys getting fired with better records.

He decided how can I keep KS when others are making changes? He did it for the optics.

Haslam is not a strategic thinker as an owner. He is a rich guy who made a lot of money in a business his father started.

He bought the team as an investment. He wants to win and is willing to spend. So is the Mets owner.

He has no idea how to run a team and has learned little in fourteen years.


Most established coaches with 8 wins over 2 seasons lose their jobs. Heck, most coaches with 3 win seasons manage to lost their jobs. Yje Browns were excedingly patient with Stefanski. I know there were personnel challenges, but he lost whatever ability he had to make a winner out of little. He has a Super Bowl level defense, and could not win. Offensive challenges aside, theh defense managed to add in UDFA and low end FA ..... and make an elite unit. Stefanski couldn't even make a below average unit out of his. He had numerous problems, an inabilty to eliminate the mental mistakes being the most galling. He was done here. He just seemed to lose whatever he had that made him at al special, It was time for him to go.
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Re: The. Dems. FATE 01/09/26 11:28 PM
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN FATE 01/09/26 11:16 PM
Speaking of Jan 6; remember when an unarmed Ashli Babbitt "got what she deserved"?

Any way the wind blows...
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 1oldMutt 01/09/26 11:15 PM
I think it’s just fine to have high hopes but as longtime Browns fans I think that’s ALWAYS tempered with that reality that this is the Cleveland Browns we’re talking about here…
We’re pretty well based in that reality.
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Re: Denmark tells Trump to stop threatening to seize Greenland FATE 01/09/26 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Lol.
Those are are all real things. And you're clearly kosher with them. That's ok. You do you. And I suppose you've moved on from homo slurs and tampon jibes... Now it's just sexual abuse goads. Stay classy.

No, tampon "jibes" are never off the table as long as Timmy is still in office.

Homo slurs? I made homo slurs?? Go ahead and quote that for me, Nancy.

I'll stay classy as long as you stay twisted. And remember -- every time you say "MAGA Fanboy", another Karen gets her wings.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PerfectSpiral 01/09/26 11:00 PM
I knew it was only a matter of time that this would happen. They’re killing US citizens now for resisting their agenda. That’s a mandate only MAGAts voted for. Supporting Trump is supporting the killing of US citizens in cold blood on the streets of America. Own it MAGAts.
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN PerfectSpiral 01/09/26 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by FATE
"uncontrolled anger"

Can't even make it up. rofl

They are always full of excuses of some sort.

Your undying support for Murderers, Rapists, pedos, Jan 6 insurrectionists, NAZIS, and convicted felons tells me what a piece of work you are. Pfffft MAGAts.
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Re: Iran's Islamic Regime is Falling MemphisBrownie 01/09/26 10:52 PM
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Re: ICE murdered a US citizen in MN Lyuokdea 01/09/26 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
j/c:

Body cam of the agent in front of the car has just been released.

Important Note: It's not a body cam, it's a personal cell phone the agent was holding in his hand. It's not always on the center of his body, and when it shakes a lot, it is just because he is moving his hand.
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Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish 01/09/26 10:07 PM
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/onsi/...ete-head-coach-interview-kevin-stefanski

Lot a people on this Board wanted KS gone.

Interesting that so many teams are interested in him.

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Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish 01/09/26 10:03 PM
This is interesting.

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Re: What Now Pt. 2 mac 01/09/26 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
25% of NFL HC positions are open as of now. The Browns current situation would mean they are not nearly the most attractive destination by any means. Considering those factors I would say people need to keep their expectations low as to what "the best possible outcome" may be.


I agree with Pitt, I would not get high hopes of landing one of the top coaching candidates.

Promoting from within might be the best way for Haslam to go. OC Tommy Rees might be a top choice with DC Jim Schwartz being a possibility.

When the new stadium is complete and the offense is rebuilt via the draft, the Browns HC position will be much more attractive if Rees or Schwartz don't work out.

jmo..
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