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Re: Browns announce 2026 schedule 10YrOvernightSuccess 05/15/26 03:11 AM
Kind of an intersting order. Home opener 3 games in after 2 of our better non div opponents. No back to back divisional games. I know they base strength of schedule on last years records but I don’t have faith that the jags, saints, Texans and colts are going to be as bad as some expect. Bengals are also due for an on year. I just don’t think Mike McCarthy is a good coach so I don’t know what to expect of the Steelers. Or the Ravens. But both teams won’t be terrible. I just don’t believe in Jackson Dart but coaching is way better so giants are also a big ?. I feel like this could easily turn into a pretty tough schedule but whatever. I appreciate it when the bye is very near the middle.

Interesting to also get the super rare “easy” schedule the season before we’re likely gunning for a qb in the draft. Probably an 8-9 close and out of the running for a top QB unless we move Miles. It’s a season of question marks for sure. Way more questions than answers.
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Re: Browns announce 2026 schedule Bull_Dawg 05/15/26 02:54 AM
I actually think it worked out pretty well for us.

...We can see what Watson does before we have to worry about the home crowd boo birds wrecking his fragile ego.

Then we can switch to Shedeur during the mini-bye after Pittsburgh.

Then we can get Taylen Green ready over the actual bye.
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Re: Our National Parks Bull_Dawg 05/15/26 02:33 AM
Telling me a first rounder has a 50/50 chance to succeed isn't specific to an individual player. Telling me there's an 80% reduction doesn't tell me what land was actually excluded. Telling me 3,000 jobs doesn't tell me which jobs.

We're talking about two different "extremes."

Yes, I reach for more information. You jump to a short sighted, over simplified conclusion and push away anything that contradicts it without even attempting to understand what any one else is saying.

Someone saying there is going to be harm, doesn't actually require that there actually would be irreversible harm. I'm for looking to see if there actually would be harm rather than taking the word of someone with financial motivations for their position. Someone losing funding is obviously going to be against their own losing funding.

Appearances can be deceiving when you don't know what you are looking at.

You are always a danger, Pit, whether you break out the tomahawk or not. thumbsup We're already talking about it and trying to determine whether major damage is being done.

Yes, the world is full of dichotomies. I'm capable of holding two separate ideas independently. I'm not taking Trump's decision on faith, I'm saying let's look at it.

You're right. No homes were taken in this instance. That's why I included the part after the and/or. I was also using a hypothetical and not the exact cases we were discussing to make the idea more broadly applicable. I'm against government overreach in all its many forms. The home version hits closest to home for most people. Alas, trying to get you to think rarely works once you've dug in.

Your assumptions are wrong, as usual. The "policy" I was referring to was "allowing lame duck politicians to make irreversible decisions" rather than the antiquities act itself. The argument that later Presidents shouldn't be able to change designations sounds like a bad idea to me. I get why they are saying that in this instance, but things change.
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Re: Browns announce 2026 schedule DeisleDawg 05/15/26 12:34 AM
I Would have liked the Falcons for the Home opener.
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Browns announce 2026 schedule YTownBrownsFan 05/15/26 12:03 AM
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Re: I Thought Canada Was Going to be the 51'st State? Ballpeen 05/15/26 12:03 AM
JC

Only idiots thought he was being serious.

Carry on.
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Re: Defense PitDAWG 05/14/26 06:35 PM
Bill Belichick lost three Super Bowls as a head coach too. naughtydevil
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Re: Defense oobernoober 05/14/26 05:34 PM
I actually agree with you (probably didn't sound like it... I don't THINK I'm just being argumentative). I don't think he was overrated and he took multiple defenses over that "good-to-great" hump.

I just also agree with the people on here that had specific gripes with our defense.
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Re: Defense PitDAWG 05/14/26 04:53 PM
Some people insist on focusing on the rare exceptions to the rule rather than the rule itself. Somehow they have convinced themselves that changes the rule.
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Re: Defense IrishDawg42 05/14/26 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
The Jets only had 169 yards total offense in that game. The NOT So special teams are why the Browns lost that game giving up a kick return and a punt return for touchdowns in that game.

Fair point about ST's, however... roughly 120 of those 160'ish yards happened in the 4th quarter. Our defense was squashing them like a bug until it came time to close out the game.

42 were on one TD catch by Breece Hall...

More importantly, their offense took 11 minutes off the clock in the 4th qtr.

There isn't a defense EVER that had 4 perfect quarters for every game on the schedule. If a coordinator is being called overrated because of a single quarter, then there are just some people that will never be satisfied and we need to stop trying.

I get it, the Vikings game also happened. At the end of the day, he coordinated the 4th best defense in the league...and it wasn't the first time he did something like that with a defense. In fact, he did it consistently. When you do it with one team, one time, they can be called overrated. When you do it with multiple teams, multiple times, especially more times than not, they are just damn good.
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Re: Defense oobernoober 05/14/26 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
The Jets only had 169 yards total offense in that game. The NOT So special teams are why the Browns lost that game giving up a kick return and a punt return for touchdowns in that game.

Fair point about ST's, however... roughly 120 of those 160'ish yards happened in the 4th quarter. Our defense was squashing them like a bug until it came time to close out the game.
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Re: Our National Parks PitDAWG 05/14/26 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
When an argument is based more on emotions and headlines and numbers without context than actual specifics, I consider that an extreme approach to a topic. (i.e, saying something happened because someone allegedly hates someone else and bringing up how one despises something.) You're the only one that said extreme issue in here.

Bone has given you plenty of specifics.

You posted this, not me.

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2. When every topic is presented from one extreme or the other, I guess trying to look at things rationally seems contrarian.

None of this has been presented from an "extreme" other than the current White House because it's never been an issue until now.

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If gas prices rise to the point where many can't afford travel to parks or the economy craters because we defaulted on our national debt, are the parks still being shared equally?

If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass every time it landed. You can come up with "ifs" all day. And none of that has anything to do with this. I know you reach on some topics but this is a Stretch Armstrong move.

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Most things aren't as simple as you try to make them. One might only understand a simplified version of something, but that doesn't make it the realistic version. There's more than one side to every story. I get the propensity for declaring every move Trump makes as horrible (many are), but it's just not that black and white. I'm not a fan of presupposition. I like to drill down to what the actual move is rather than just declaring it's horrible and evil because Trump did it (or someone claims some number means something.)

So your idea is wait until something collapses or suffers obvious, tangible harm to address it? Because until then you have no idea if the moves made will harm it?

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It could be horrible. (It could be much ado about not all that much.) I'm trying to figure out the actual changes beneath the seeming histrionics.

Hmmmm. What you've done to this point certainly doesn't appear that way.

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If someone gives an example of some irreplaceable natural feature being destroyed or horribly contaminated or even something meaningful being removed from a designation, I'll agree that's awful. If someone can give a non-biased cost/benefit analysis of the actual jobs being lost, I could form an opinion on how I felt about it. A biased article from an organization losing funding with a few surface numbers and inflammatory language doesn't actually tell me a whole lot. It does give me pause, so I ask questions and look for clarification.

So the man running around the neighborhood with a hatchet screaming at the top of his lungs isn't a danger until he kills someone? Wait until major damage is already done and then let's talk about it?

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The next president, as he's leaving office, says your home and business and/or all shipping routes to and from are now in a national park and you have to leave and/or can no longer use the roads/water. Eminent domain, here's a lowball check. Nothing you can do about it. Are you okay with that? Or would you like the incoming president to take a look at whether that actually makes sense? (Not that I have faith in Trump/future politician actually being able to make a good decision there.)

That seems like quite the dichotomy. Admitting you have no faith trump can be making a good decision while saying let's give the man you have no faith in masking a good decision.

How many people were displaced from their homes do to expanding those wildlife areas? I'll tell you. Zero. The expansions, which protected over 550 million acres of land and water (mostly marine), did not involve seizing private homes. The lands were already managed by the federal government and were placed under stricter conservation rules. You're just riff on things that aren't even true to make some fantasy story.

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Allowing lame duck politicians to make irreversible decisions just seems like a horribly short sighted policy to me.

Maybe you should have looked at the details of those policies first. I'm 100% sure you had no idea those lands were already being managed by the federal government and all this policy did was to strengthen the conservation rules.
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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 Bard Dawg 05/14/26 02:45 PM
Gritty win. Some outstanding individual efforts. Let's ice it in The Land! We are finding out how tough we can be; our defense can improve more.

Great victory! Go,Cavs!
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Re: Defense Homewood Dog 05/14/26 01:29 PM
I also remember that playoff game against Houston where they moved the ball on us fairly easy. But, in defense of our D, they were on the field an awful lot because of our anemic Offense last season and many times had to defend a short field because of turnovers. A more productive O will help our D immensely.
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Re: Defense Day of the Dawg 05/14/26 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
I may be overly influenced by the memory of the defense getting picked apart by Carson Wentz at the end of the Vikings game.

And don't forget how we got absolutely run over by the Jets. I would say that Schwartz's defense had a couple things happen that shouldn't happen to a defense of that caliber. It was a championship-caliber defense that let us down a couple times but, overall, was a special defense that was held back by an anemic offense. Even if they had come through for us in those two games, nothing significant would've been gained in terms of the season.

The Jets only had 169 yards total offense in that game. The NOT So special teams are why the Browns lost that game giving up a kick return and a punt return for touchdowns in that game. That is why the special teams coach was fired. The only time the defense struggled was right after Maliek Collins got hurt in the 49ers, Titans, and Bears games. Then they seemed to find their selves again down the stretch vs the Bills, Steelers, and Bengals.
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Re: Defense oobernoober 05/14/26 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
I may be overly influenced by the memory of the defense getting picked apart by Carson Wentz at the end of the Vikings game.

And don't forget how we got absolutely run over by the Jets. I would say that Schwartz's defense had a couple things happen that shouldn't happen to a defense of that caliber. It was a championship-caliber defense that let us down a couple times but, overall, was a special defense that was held back by an anemic offense. Even if they had come through for us in those two games, nothing significant would've been gained in terms of the season.
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Re: I Thought Canada Was Going to be the 51'st State? bonefish 05/14/26 12:31 PM
Greenland, no no I can't have it. They screwed me out of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Canada, I think I want it. Why not?

Cuba, oh I would like Cuba. Close Mar a large oo.

Venezuela mmm I love oil. Look Alcatraz can I have that?

What can I have my name on. How about passports?

Kim Jong Un what a swell guy. I wanna be Putin. Nap time.
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Re: I Thought Canada Was Going to be the 51'st State? Damanshot 05/14/26 11:33 AM
Anything for Oil....
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Re: How much money is enough? Ballpeen 05/14/26 11:20 AM
Sorry to hear about the troubles.

Always expected the unexpected, even if you don't know how it will manifest.
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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 bonefish 05/14/26 10:57 AM
Great win for our Cavaliers.

No slack we have to take them down in town.
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Re: Defense Bull_Dawg 05/14/26 05:48 AM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
I think Schwartz was overrated, but Rutenberg is an unknown. I like the "scheme," which we're supposedly keeping, but the in game adjustments and moment to moment play calling left me wanting better from Schwartz, and I don't think Rutenberg has had to do that yet. So, we'll see.

We are going to disagree on Schwartz, I don't think he was overrated at all. As for in game adjustments, the Browns gave up fewer yards (ave. 186 first half to 106 second half) and TDs were 2 to 1 first half to second half last year. I don't recall the defense doing many things to lose many games. The defense was put into a lot of bad field position situations, yet they still held the other team on many occasions. I don't recall ever having issues in the second half caused by a lack of adjustments.

Giving up fewer yards in the second half happens when teams focus more on burning clock than scoring points. Especially when an atrocious offense wasn't keeping it close.

I may be overly influenced by the memory of the defense getting picked apart by Carson Wentz at the end of the Vikings game.

It didn't happen all the time, but when teams figured out how to handle the fastball, we got torched. Fortunately some teams couldn't handle the fastball, so we didn't need to adjust. Myles made the defense go more than the play calls made the defense go, in my opinion.
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Re: Our National Parks Bull_Dawg 05/14/26 05:01 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Since when did protecting and funding federal lands and our national parks become a matter of "extremes"? People of all religions and all political viewpoints share equally in the enjoyment and reward of those lands and protecting them and preserving our natural wonders. Maintaining them have been continued and carried out by every president and administration for decades.

Now it's an extreme issue? Maybe you need to pause and ask yourself why it's now an extreme issue when it never was before? None of this is as complicated as you're trying to make it sound. I think even you know that.

When an argument is based more on emotions and headlines and numbers without context than actual specifics, I consider that an extreme approach to a topic. (i.e, saying something happened because someone allegedly hates someone else and bringing up how one despises something.) You're the only one that said extreme issue in here.

If gas prices rise to the point where many can't afford travel to parks or the economy craters because we defaulted on our national debt, are the parks still being shared equally?

Most things aren't as simple as you try to make them. One might only understand a simplified version of something, but that doesn't make it the realistic version. There's more than one side to every story. I get the propensity for declaring every move Trump makes as horrible (many are), but it's just not that black and white. I'm not a fan of presupposition. I like to drill down to what the actual move is rather than just declaring it's horrible and evil because Trump did it (or someone claims some number means something.)

It could be horrible. (It could be much ado about not all that much.) I'm trying to figure out the actual changes beneath the seeming histrionics.

If someone gives an example of some irreplaceable natural feature being destroyed or horribly contaminated or even something meaningful being removed from a designation, I'll agree that's awful. If someone can give a non-biased cost/benefit analysis of the actual jobs being lost, I could form an opinion on how I felt about it. A biased article from an organization losing funding with a few surface numbers and inflammatory language doesn't actually tell me a whole lot. It does give me pause, so I ask questions and look for clarification.

The next president, as he's leaving office, says your home and business and/or all shipping routes to and from are now in a national park and you have to leave and/or can no longer use the roads/water. Eminent domain, here's a lowball check. Nothing you can do about it. Are you okay with that? Or would you like the incoming president to take a look at whether that actually makes sense? (Not that I have faith in Trump/future politician actually being able to make a good decision there.)

Allowing lame duck politicians to make irreversible decisions just seems like a horribly short sighted policy to me.
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Re: Cavs/NBA 2.0 YTownBrownsFan 05/14/26 03:08 AM
Cavaliers win game 5 in Detroit to go up 3-2.
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Re: Our National Parks mgh888 05/13/26 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
I guess trying to look at things rationally seems contrarian.
LOL. Good one
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Re: Our National Parks PitDAWG 05/13/26 07:32 PM
Since when did protecting and funding federal lands and our national parks become a matter of "extremes"? People of all religions and all political viewpoints share equally in the enjoyment and reward of those lands and protecting them and preserving our natural wonders. Maintaining them have been continued and carried out by every president and administration for decades.

Now it's an extreme issue? Maybe you need to pause and ask yourself why it's now an extreme issue when it never was before? None of this is as complicated as you're trying to make it sound. I think even you know that.
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