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First off,it would be another media circus that this young team doesnot need this year.
secondly,it may all be moot,the Supp.Draft is held at the whim of the Commish,it may or maynot take place.

Facts.

And things will cause you discomfort. I hear people say all the time "I can't do that because this hurts or that hurts". Now, granted, plenty of folks have real structural issues that prevent them from moving the way they did in their youth, but I'd venture to say that the vast, overwhelming majority simply have bodies they haven't used and the inertia of doing nothing overrides any notion of breaking out of that. That leads to weak muscles which leads to small gaps in joints. It leads to poor balance and being easily injured because the body no longer has the strength to control itself against other forces. Complacency kills.

Conversely, working out all the time may cause lots of soreness in muscles, but I'd rather be sore than hurt. I'd rather be strong and resilient. Strong muscles create space in joints which leads to better joint health and it gives me the ability to still get around easily, to still be able to get out of a chair easily, to still squat ass-to-grass and just hang out there and then stand up like it's nothing; things actually move the way they are supposed to. Strong means that I'm still self-sufficient. Carrying 100lbs of chicken feed at a time on my shoulder from the car to the feeders 100 yards away is trivial. Getting two 50 lb bags onto that shoulder at once is just another thing. It means that I rarely, if ever, have an unexpected fall. Your balance *IS* your core muscles. Having strong core - abs, lower back, obliques, glutes, hips - means that your body can react and brace against unexpected things like a shoe toe getting caught in the carpet and tripping you. People fall because those muscles are no longer able to react fast enough or strongly enough to prevent the fall.

Personally, I absolutely LOVE to lift heavy. At 55, I am a good bit younger than most of y'all in this thread, but I'm still getting up there and I see the effects of age regularly.... but, I refuse to let that stop me. I acknowledge what I must and adapt my training only as required, but I still go heavy and still push to get stronger constantly, and then I pay extra attention to how I recover and help the body repair itself.

I agree 100%. Sadly I think the NFL has been tougher on a player gambling than being a sexual predator.

Because of the short time frame before the supplemental draft.

The evaluation of Sorsby becomes more difficult. All physical traits are easy to verify.

Grading his talent on the field as a prospect is something every team will do.

The hard part of his evaluation is the gambling addiction and being diagnosed as having an anxiety disorder.

If he had returned to college that part of the evaluation would have been way easier because there would be a year under a microscope to follow his treatment and progress.

As fans we do not know his character as a person.

Gambling has come a long way. It is promoted and sold all over the place. It is made to be addicting. Sorsby began gambling in high school at 18. Public health experts and addiction specialists agree that the modern digital gambling ecosystem is fundamentally engineered for addiction.

Because the supplemental draft is in July. I have to wonder if the professionals treating him can be accurate about his prognosis.

So, the Browns and any team interested in bidding on him have a limited amount of time to get a comprehensive evaluation done.

With that said I fully expect teams will investigate, and draw a conclusion.

IMO he could go as high as a second and as low as a fifth.

Every team in search of a quarterback now and down the road will check him out.

* Edit add on. I just read this; "If anybody reads the NCAA investigation, they went through all four years of Brendan’s bets. The conclusion was there’s never integrity of the game violations. Again, his bets at Indiana were from the dorm room, not on the travel roster. The minute he was on the travel roster, there was never another college football bet ever placed."

Netanyahu has zero interest in peace. Once military conflict has gone, he is losing power and being prosecuted.

On the MoU ... there is not one single thing I have read so far that indicates we will be in a better position than when Trump tore up the previous agreement that was in place during Term 1.

1. I am ok moving on from Sanders. He has a long long way to go, odds are very remote that he will be a bonafide starting caliber QB. He has a carnival that follows him as far as media goes. His work ethic - which I have consistently read is excellent - is his one characteristic I like a lot - as well as his deep ball, which **potentially** suits Monken's offense and the ability of both Bonds and Decepcion.
2. 100% comfortable with Gabriel as a backup.
3. I hate the idea of Watson starting - he's been putrid and he's a sexual predator. But if we moved on from Sanders this might be the outcome. I don't like it but I was forced to accept it before.

1. For a 4th round pick - possibly a 3rd if they really like him based on skillset and interviewing him and believing he can move on from his gambling ...
2. It's not even in the same universe let alone ballpark. Watson has conducted himself in a far worse way. Trying to compare the two does these transgressions an injustice.
3. I have not seen Sorsby play ... I can't comment to his ability.

I don't have any belief that Green is going to amount to anything. Before you wrote your post I was going to say I was in complete agreement with what Oober wrote in his last post.

Current:
1) I'm not ok with moving on from Shedeur. From all indications he is building a nice rapport with the rookies and Bond. I don't want to disrupt that just yet. I would rather go into the season to see where it goes. If he is playing decent, but doesn't look like he has made some pretty big strides, then move him by the trade deadline and start the rookie QB process early.
2) I am comfortable with Gabriel as a backup, but wouldn't want to rely on him for anything more than spot duty. I have no opinion on Green yet, but would rather have Gabriel than him as backup at this time.
3) I'm indifferent on this. IF Sanders isn't the guy, then I am thinking about the draft any way. There is no universe that Watson is a Brown beyond 2026 season, so if he starts, then Sanders might as well be traded at any time.

Moving on
1) I am not comfortable with spending draft capital on Sorsby. It has as much to do with what I have seen on film as it does a gambling addiction. I do think with treatment, he can overcome an addiction. I just don't see any more in him than I did from Shedeur Sanders coming out of college. Different style of QBs, I am not comparing their skill set, just comparing what I feel to be their ceiling. I wouldn't use higher than a 5th round pick in the supplemental for him.
2) No, it's a pretty easy answer for me on this one
3) Tune in July 10th for his pro day for those that love underwear Olympics. I don't see a QB that makes great decisions. Can that be taught? Sure it can, but I don't think he will end up any better than the best mediocre QB in the league. Is that good enough for us?

It makes sense for someone like Detroit to take a chance on him with a 3rd/4th round pick. They are going to be picking at the bottom of every round until Goff retires. Goff is only 31, so even they might not want to risk anything on Sorsby.

Someone like Tampa Bay who hasn't settled a contract issue with Baker Mayfield yet, might want to think about this. A) Baker will have them competing for a playoff spot. B) Baker has had his share of controversy coming into the league. He could mentor that aspect for Sorsby if they both agree to use that platform. C) They don't have any viable option outside of Baker. I don't know that anyone thinks Jake Browning could be the heir apparent to Baker. Baker's camp has said, if they don't have the contract worked out by training camp, he is just going to play the final year on his current contract and go back into free agency. The Buccaneers would have a full season to see what Sorsby is without much being on the line. If Sorsby is a steal with a 3rd round pick, good on them. If they work things out with Baker, they might still have a decent backup with a 3rd round pick. I would put Sorsby with about as much of a chance at being a franchise guy as Sanders or Gabriel.

Now, if anyone is going to take a chance at a home run vs strike out, I think that will be the Jets. They just drafted Kade Klubnik, but they probably already have a good feeling that he isn't going to be a franchise guy. throwing a 3rd rounder at Sorsby might give them piece of mind at making a decision to take a QB high in the 2027 draft. They would probably be Sorsby's best chance at competing for a starting job in the NFL. Gino Smith is on loan as a NFL starter. At 35 he has played some of his best football in recent years, but also some of his worst. He isn't a long term answer. They don't have anyone after Klubnik of mention, so sliding Sorsby in as the #3 emergency QB would be fairly simple.

I don't think this is a going to be a fight for Sorsby. I think maybe 5 teams at the most put in a bid. With maybe 2 teams putting in anything higher than a 5th round bid.

He's listed at 6'3", let's see what he really measures in at his pro day. If he is closer to 6'0"-1", then he might go undrafted. If he is a true 6'3", someone might go as high as a 3rd, but I am willing to bet he goes for a 4th. Do you think Sorsby would take me up on that bet?

Does all of this go hand in hand?

Few questions, let's start with the current QB room

1) Is everyone ok with moving on from Shedeur? Follow up, if so, what is the least you would take and be comfortable moving him?
2) Is everyone comfortable with Dillon Gabriel being the backup or does anyone trust Green to be the backup?
3) Is everyone comfortable with Desaun Watson being the starter, with no contestation?

Moving on...
1) Who is and who isn't comfortable with bringing on another project QB with a gambling addiction?
2) Is gambling worse than having 26 women sue a guy for sexual misconduct? Both sound like addictive issues.
3) What does Sorsby's actual skill set look like separating the negative issue at hand?

Let's start there and work our way up...

One sure fact is the less you move.

The less you will be able to move.

This is where I'm at. You bid a pick for him that you don't mind getting nothing for (5th... maybe a 4th, tops). First sign of stupidity, you cut him.

And for the folks saying that'd be too many QBs.... You really don't think we aren't going to see ALL of them start at one point or another this year? Because we will.

I'm shocked... shocked, I tell you.

I am fortunate in the fact that I have a very physical job. But I'm still aging.

When I walk into a gym and look at the basketball rims - the same height as when I played - back when I could dunk 1 handed, or 2 handed - I know look up and wonder "HOW did I do that?"

Takes me a good 10 minutes, in the morning, to feel like I 'should', as far as walking.

Best thing for me is my job. Just getting to work is a privilege, and starting makes me feel good. I don't jump anymore. I don't run, but I am physically active, through work.

All true.

What you do as you age is up to you.

I read something about Arnold Schwarzenegger. He was born with an abnormal heart condition.

Today at age 79 he has completely changed what he does for exercise.

The primary goal is to build cardio and take pressure off his joints. He bikes and swims mostly along with high reps of low weights.

He acknowledged the damage he did to his body as a bodybuilder.

You adapt to what you can do now that helps you.

No one here gets out alive..... but that doesn't mean you should lay down an just accept it.


The human body will adapt to whatever you consistently ask of it. If you ask very little to nothing of it, it will adapt to being able to do very little to nothing.
As you age, recovery takes longer, we aren't pumped full of the growth hormones of the young and so it takes longer and longer for the body to repair itself.... but that doesn't mean you stop testing it.
Things begin to ache that never used to, but often times that means needing to learn to understand that you need to stretch and work on mobility because your muscles are tight.
There is definitely an age-related back slide and as we get older we have to push ourselves just to maintain the status quo, but you can still improve and reverse that slide.

We're all going to eventually succumb to one thing or another, and there are always things that are out of our control, but the condition we're in when we arrive there is largely up to us.

We just need to stay away from Sorsby. We've thrown away enough draft capital on mental QB prospects. Let him fall through the supplemental and if he makes it through, then try to sign him as an UDFA and load that contract with all the protective clauses we can come up with..... like, even if someone challenges him to a foot race and tells him to his face that he will lose and he responds "Wanna bet?!", then we can reclaim his entire contract.

Good. Get a 3rd rounder for him and call it done.

‘It’s uncalled for’: New highway sign for Charlie Kirk sparks reaction from local Vietnam veterans

SUMNER COUNTY, Tenn. (WKRN) — A new highway sign honoring conservative activist Charlie Kirk is receiving some backlash.

A stretch of Vietnam Veterans Boulevard near Goodlettsville now has a sign designating it as “Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway.”

It’s a gesture that has support from community members and some prominent conservatives, but it’s also incited frustration from some local Vietnam veterans.

“It’s uncalled for. It’s just uncalled for,” said Barry Rice, a Sumner County Vietnam veteran who serves as President for Tennessee’s Vietnam Veterans council. “At least without the dignity or the honor of someone reaching out and saying, ‘This is what we’re considering doing, how do you feel?’”

Rice told News 2 his stance has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk, who he and many Vets supported.

“I can’t speak for everyone, but I would venture a guess that all Vietnam veterans were saddened by the tragedy that happened to Charlie Kirk that should not happen in the United States of America, or anywhere,” Rice said.

But for a generation of soldiers who often feel disregarded, Rice says this seems like deja vu.

“It’s just aggravating. It’s almost, ‘once again, here we go again.’ You know, it happened when we came home. We were disloved (sic), we were disliked,” said Rice.

Rice stressed the years of work that Sumner County Vietnam veterans put in to have Highway 386 named in their honor.

That recognition expanded nearly a decade ago, when signs were put up along the highway in memory of those who didn’t come back from that war.

“We were honored again by being able to place 25 signs along Vietnam Veterans Boulevard, with the names of the 25 from Sumner County who made the ultimate sacrifice in Vietnam,” detailed Rice.

Many well-known Sumner County voices—like activist Riley Gaines and county commissioner Jeremy Mansfield—have shared their support for the sign on social media.

Gaines, who knew Kirk personally, called it a “beautiful tribute” that drivers will see daily.

That said, Rice thinks the sign will create a perception problem.

“People are going to see Charlie Kirk Memorial (highway), and they are going to assume — and I’m making an assumption — that it is being renamed,” said Rice. “There are plenty of other highways in the state of Tennessee… that would probably be honored to be labeled as Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway. But please leave Vietnam Veterans Boulevard alone.”

“We got other chapters across the state who are aware of Vietnam Veterans Boulevard; 23 other Vietnam veteran chapters. As president, if this continues, I certainly will make them aware and put them on the lookout,” Rice added.

The Charlie Kirk sign was approved in the state general assembly back in May. The legislation was part of an ‘omnibus bill,’ or a combination of unrelated policies or measures that are voted on at once.

TDOT says the signs were installed on Tuesday, June 16. The signs are on both sides of 386, near exits to Goodlettsville and Hendersonville.

The city of Goodlettsville told News 2 that Mayor Rusty Tinnin led the charge in having this sign installed, with help from state representatives, like Johnny Garrett.

News 2 reached out to Tinnin, but have not heard back by the time of this publication.

Meanwhile, Sumner County Mayor John Isbell told News 2 that he was unaware of the signs until he saw it posted to Facebook.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/charlie-kirk-highway-sign-sumner-county-veterans-react/

Federal prosecutors are continuing to dismiss charges initially brought against people in Minnesota for allegedly assaulting federal officers during the winter.

WCCO dug through court filings and identified at least 18 people whose cases are now dropped. A federal judge officially dismissed the charges for 15 of them; three are pending a judge's approval after prosecutors filed motions to dismiss the charges. At least 17 cases are still pending, with judges denying defense dismissal motions in several of them.

Richard Painter, a legal expert with the University of Minnesota and former chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, said that it's clear to him that federal prosecutors brought several cases forward without sufficient evidence.

"It appears that the United States Attorney's Office in Minnesota is bringing some weak cases against protestors," Painter said, adding that he believes that there was pressure from the Trump administration to charge people.

According to court records, defense and government attorneys alike asked for case dismissals for a variety of reasons.

Juan Carlos Rodriguez Romero was accused in December of ramming into ICE vehicles in St. Paul, prompting an ICE agent to fire his weapon, hitting no one. On June 8, United States Attorney Daniel Rosen signed off on a dismissal motion based in part because prosecutors "thoroughly reassessed the evidence" and concluded that they were not confident that they could obtain and sustain a conviction against Rodriguez Romero.

In January, ICE leadership acknowledged that ICE agent Christian Castro may have lied under oath about what happened the night he shot Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis in north Minneapolis. This led to the assault charges against Sosa-Celis and another man being dropped; Castro is now facing charges in Hennepin County for the shooting and for falsely reporting a crime.

Just a week after that incident, federal officers said Paul Johnson violently resisted arrest in north Minneapolis. On Thursday, Rosen signed a motion to dismiss the charges against Johnson. The U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota acknowledged issues raised by Johnson and his legal team, including allegations that agents shackled him to a bed at HCMC without access to his phone for days.

"Based on newly received discovery, the government intends to pursue an investigation into allegations raised in Mr. Johnson's filings; therefore the interests of justice support dismissal of this case," Rosen's motion reads in Johnson's case.

In the more than 30 cases WCCO reviewed, one name appeared across a variety of different cases. HSI Special Agent Richard Berger submitted sworn affidavits prompting probable cause for the arrest of Johnson and nine others, whose charges were ultimately dismissed. Berger submitted affidavits in at least 12 cases that are still ongoing.

In a hearing in Gillian Etherington's case in April, which is still ongoing, U.S. District Court Magistrate David Schultz said that he became "concerned with the veracity" of multiple affidavits related to federal officer assault cases that came from Berger. Schultz said that in multiple instances, Berger "did not have any personal knowledge of the events described in the affidavits that he has submitted to this court as sworn affidavits."

A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security ignored questions from WCCO about whether there has been an internal review of incident reports or legal filings. The spokesperson instead provided a statement describing Johnson, who prosecutors are dropping the federal case against, as an "anti-ICE rioter."

U.S. prosecutors in Minnesota on Tuesday announced charges against 15 people they say conspired to "violently oppose immigration law enforcement," though Rosen failed to describe a single example of injuries to federal agents when repeatedly questioned.

When asked what makes the latest slate of indictments different than other cases that have been dropped, Rosen said he doesn't think any cases have "failed in any way."

"Read the indictment and you'll understand the magnitude of this case," Rosen said. "You watch how this case plays out, you watch how the evidence plays out and the evidence will prove it all out."

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-protester-assault-cases-dismissed-minnesota/

Brendan Sorsby officially applies for the supplemental draft

It’s official.

Via Tom Pelissero of NFL Network, quarterback Brendan Sorsby has officially applied for the NFL’s supplemental draft.

News of Sorsby’s plan to abandon his lawsuit against the NCAA and enter the NFL’s supplemental draft emerged on Monday. With the case dismissed, Sorsby is now ineligible to play college football in 2026. Which means that he’s eligible to enter the NFL, through the supplemental draft.

The next question is whether the NFL will allow Sorsby into the supplemental draft. To date, there’s no indication that the NFL will slam the door.

Once Sorsby is declared eligible for the supplemental draft — and once he’s drafted — the question becomes whether the NFL will attempt to impose a suspension. As explained earlier in the day, the Kayshon Boutte precedent points to the league taking no action against Sorsby.

However it goes, Sorsby has now commenced the process of entering the NFL as of the 2026 season.

The supplemental draft will happen in July. A specific date has not yet been set for it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ially-applies-for-the-supplemental-draft

People appreciate and celebrate a no hitter... And there are many games with low scoring. As you say, growing up with a sport helps you to appreciate it. Rugby is a great sport, a phenomenal sport, but lost on most Americans also .

The USMT has played lights out. They're going to win their group. I think when they progress to the knockout stages there will be some ground swell of support and interest.. I mean if curling at the winter Olympics can catch on a winning US soccer team can. But still, not for everyone.

I am not giving up a draft pick in 2027 to take a long shot chance on him. Way too much baggage. Another Johnny Manzel?

Post a sign over the tarp and make it huge. Like 8647 Kennedy Center. Too soon?