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We're not going to win many more games with this type of play from the offensive line.

Our run game grinds on me. Does that count?

My window access to World Series tickets opens up on Tuesday. Time to get ticket shopping!

Ahh, forgot about that. That was hilarious!

yeah

penis head hegseth

So happy for you! The crowd was amazing, gave me chills at times. There is nothing like being there to enjoy it in person!

And yes. Commission the statue now. You know you're building it, just pull the curtain the day he retires. He deserves nothing less.

Where? I can't find any of those, maybe you can point them out for me. I think you may be imagining that... which actually, ironically, supports the very thing you quoted above to dispute.

What a series. What a win. Just build Jose his statue now.

Vogt has this team believing in themselves.

ALCS time!!!!

Great game, with Jose gettin going, I truly believe we can win the world series this year!

I can watch game 1 of the ALCS, then off to Thailand. What a time to go huh? Should be fine for World Series if the Guards make it there.

You have given reasons in support of livestreaming an execution. You have raised zero objections to it. In case you missed it, that is supporting it.

You even went as far as saying you were outraged over something Obama said and also said this doesn't move the needle for you. How much more supportive do you need to be to admit you support it?


You don't have to be a member of a cult to support some of its despicable acts. And as of yet trump hasn't eaten any babies.... that we know of. But maybe time will tell on that one.

The crimes are well known. What this man did was a a disgusting act of terrorism. Being disgusted that our own government is following the example of terrorists and criminals by livestreaming an execution isn't "frothing at the mouth". No matter how crazily you try to package it.

Trying to justify livestreaming an execution by pointing out the acts of the terrorist has nothing to do with the acts of the American government in response.

But that's what many of your kind do these days. Once again you try to shift the blame to those asking for accountability even on the most basic of terms.

Nidal Hasan, the former U.S. Army psychiatrist who killed 13 people and injured 32 others in a mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009, told military mental health experts that he wanted to be executed to become a martyr.

I'm sure he's thrilled they are going to livestream it as well. Playing into the hands of a terrorist is not attractive.

Hoping we jump on them early and keep them off the field. A grinding ground game would be great in the weather. Go, Browns!

No problem!

Not following you, Bone. Were you responding to me?

Here's your classification for "supporting" something...

If someone is not 100% outraged an outspoken about something, they must be supporting it.

So yes, Pit, live in your fairyland where you think anyone that has even a single thing to say in support of Trump is in a cult and would bow at his knees even if he starts eating babies.

I said I can understand how people are outraged, but it doesn't move the needle for me. End of story. Besides that, don't really care. I think it's crazy that nobody would even talk about the crimes this human garbage committed unless I reminded them.

Then that's called a strawman! LMAO.

I'll just bow out and let you all froth at the mouth.

He fits the description.

There is a HUGE difference between something being available on the internet and crossing the screen of every TV in the country as part of their daily programming. If you don't see it, that's on you.

I was outraged when Obama's first Homeland Security Secretary called Fort Hood a "man-caused disaster"... and he himself said it was just "workplace violence". You? No?? See, everyone is different.

Watch or don't watch. Part of your Freedom of Choice. I guarantee there are hundreds of family members of the 45 killed or wounded, and 300+ service members that lived through that violence, that will be watching and applaud the fact that this monster is sent to hell. What are they? Monsters?

Again, before anyone gets it twisted:
I can see how many think this is a bridge too far.
It doesn't move the needle much for me.
Nobody is trying to make anyone watch it.
I have no desire to see it, so I make the simple decision not to watch.
Glad this POS is finally getting what he deserves.
Hope this may deter someone, anyone, from even considering doing something similar.

No-one is defending the atrocious actions of the guilty person. No-one here seems to be trying to say he shouldn't be put to death. So those points are strawman talking points.

I also don't see how the ability to go online and find essentially anything you want - no matter how sick or depraved - means that the Govt of the USA should therefore broadcast it also.

I'll repeat - other than some FB murders, terrorists, Iran and Nth Korea ... I can't find any reference to live streaming executions/murder. Maybe my search missed something and you can add to the list? If not that's a short list of despots and apparently some are comfortable adding the USA next to them. . . . Maybe it is no surprise after the USA has been voting with the likes of Russia and Nth Korea at the UN recently.

It makes one wonder at what point, if there even is a point, at which they will stop supporting things that were unthinkable just a short time ago. .

How many of those were government sanctioned events distributed and approved by the U.S. government? Stop pretending this is somehow the same or even similar in any way.


Yes, our government choosing to show the same events major criminals and terrorists do shouldn't bother anyone.


I haven't seen anyone disagree with you there.


This is what it looks like when people try to pretend that people shouldn't be outraged over anything. When they try to excuse things no civilized society should ever approve of they wish to accuse those who object to it rather than face the fact it's they themselves that have lost any sense of accountability in support that our government have any resemblance of a moral compass.



That is barbaric. Just as are public executions. One does not excuse the other.

Not shown on TV
So you need a computer?
Big frick'in difference
Also, lots of things get live streamed on TV

I can't believe anyone is actually defending this - SMH!

Thanks Fate

I have no problem with the guy being executed.

That is not the point at all.

Penis head?

Damn, breaking out the heavy artillery there, Bone. 🤣

Ding! Ding! Ding!

I guarantee I can do some simple searches and watch rapes, murders, beheadings; anything I want within a few clicks. This isn't like a 1978 presidential address where it's locked on all three channels, you won't have to send the kids upstairs and turn the volume down.

That said, I can certainly understand people being disgusted because by the reality of a military announcing it will be "live" for anyone to consume; it just doesn't move the needle much for me. I won't watch it; I have no interest. But I will be relieved this much deserved execution will finally be carried out.

And yes, once again, outrage is the tail that wags the dog and no one seems to focus on the dog itself...


BARBARIC:

On November 5, 2009, U.S. Army Major and psychiatrist Nidal Hasan committed the deadliest mass shooting on an American military installation at Fort Hood, Texas. Acting as a self-radicalized Islamic extremist, Hasan targeted unarmed service members, killing 13 people (including a pregnant soldier) and wounding 32 others in a matter of minutes.

The details of the crime and its execution outline a calculated attack:

1. Premeditation
Before the attack, Hasan spent months training at a civilian firing range and researching extremist ideologies online. He purchased a semi-automatic handgun with a high magazine capacity to carry out the assault.

2. The Location
Hasan targeted the base's Soldier Readiness Processing Center. The facility was crowded with roughly 300 service members undergoing final medical checkups and administrative paperwork prior to deployment. In accordance with military base regulations at the time, the personnel inside were unarmed. Hasan entered the building, shouted "Allahu Akbar!" and opened fire.

3. The Nature of the Attack
The attack lasted less than 10 minutes, during which Hasan fired more than 200 rounds. Witnesses reported that he intentionally targeted uniformed service members while permitting civilian workers to flee the area. Among the 13 people killed was Private First Class Francheska Velez, who had recently returned from deployment and was pregnant at the time.

4. Legal Resolution and Aftermath
The shooting continued outside the building until civilian base police officers arrived and engaged Hasan. He was shot multiple times, surviving the injuries but remaining permanently paralyzed from the chest down.

During his 2013 military court-martial, Hasan acted as his own attorney and stated that his motive was to protect the Taliban from the United States military. He was found guilty on 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder, and was subsequently sentenced to death.

The execution WILL NOT BE SHOWN ON TV.