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A little Flacco Fever for everyone.

I bet Njoku is happy to see this signing.

Along with the WR's.

I'm not sure who the RB will but it needs to be a priority now in order to make it a more balanced O. My guess is they will make that somewhat of a priority in the draft.

They should take two RBs in this draft considering the class. One of the RBs being with one of their 6th round pick or a move up to the 5th round and one earlier in the draft.

That catch & run by Jerome Ford was probably his best play ever.

Probably so.

Defiantly so. I don't ever recall a coach or FO type saying they don't like a player.

I also agree...but Winston did reportedly have a shoulder injury...likely BS tho. Weird how the Winston flame blew out like it did.

I can understand people thinking this.

... but... do we feel that Flacco would be better than Cousins? I don't (though neither are going to be anywhere near "the answer" as neither are world-beaters).

I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here... but does Flacco being re-signed REALLY mean we're not going QB at 2?

-We got Pickett for a 5th
-We got Flacco on day 29 of 2025 FA

That doesn't exactly scream "we're set at QB".

I don't believe it's a "case closed" scenario. No matter who or where they draft a QB, considering the weak draft class at QB, any QB they draft will need time to develop. I think they needed a veteran QB to play the role of mentor to any QB they drafted. I think this being a weak QB class in general meant they probably didn't have any intention of drafting a QB at #2 from the very beginning. And the statement by Haslam indicating it may take time to find a QB indicates that as well. Sure that could be a smokescreen too.

But I don't think anyone should rule out drafting a QB at #2. As long as that QB doesn't end up being #2. It seems drafting a QB that high in a weak QB class leans to it favoring more possible risk than reward. But then we never know for sure how they have these QB's valued or ranked.

I don't believe they really feel that either Flacco or Cousins would lead this team to the playoffs and even if they did it would be more likely a one and done scenario. I believe their #1 priority was signing a great mentor for a young QB. And in terms of not having to give up draft capital as well as a much lower salary Flacco seemed like the best way to accomplish that. I tend to agree with them.

It seems to me they have done a good job in terms of having a poker face and hiding their hand in regards to this draft.

I think we feel that neither raises the ceiling enough to justify parting ways with future assets. Only one fit that bill.

Let's face it the 2025 season is not going to end with confetti hitting the streets in Cleveland but a competitive team that with a few breaks could sneak into a wildcard playoff spot is possible. This team does not need to tank for a QB it needs to win as many games as possible. Winning breeds more winning and losing breeds more losing. Win as many games as possible and build the best QB room as possible until the team is ready to compete for the AFC North title and if a team can win the AFC North, they can win the Superbowl.

Joe Flacco is a very good get. What he did in 2023 coming off the couch was incredible. He should have been brought back last year. This year he actually gets a chance to attend all the mini camps, OTA's, and training camp. What is huge for the Browns is a real professional QB will attend all of those camps and can help build a culture with the other players on the team. Having a veteran presence that is also the adult in the room that Stefanski has needed will be huge for this team in the years to come. Pickett is there to be a long term back up and his job is to push the entire room to be better because he has aspirations to start again in the NFL. Now you have a QB that has won and knows what winning looks like and a backup pushing to be a starter. Add a rookie like Tyler Shough, Will Howard, or Kyle McCord to that mix and the QB room will grow and be ready for next year to hopefully add that franchise QB like Drew Allar.

I'm also a "You play the game to win" guy. On the other hand I have watched the NFL long enough to know that you don't just add a name like "Tyler Shough, Will Howard, or Kyle McCord to that mix and the QB room will grow". The vast majority of the time that doesn't work.

And if you win many games this year the top two or three QB's in next years draft wont be there at your pick. It's not a simple or cut and dry situation. If it were anyone could be an NFL GM.

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Round the outside, round the outside
Two running backs go round the outside
Round the outside, round the outside
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Flacco's back. Tell your friends.

Couldn't be much worse than last year. Maybe if we are worse, we could get the #1 pick and draft a certain .... Manning.

::visualizes people square dancing to Eminem::

Holy crap, that actually just might work!

Arch Manning will be eligible to put his name in for the draft next year. But he has stated already he plans to stay in college 4 years just like Peyton and Eli did. I do not expect him to come out even if Texas wins the Natty.

he's got a song named that.

well, I'll be..... I feel like I've listened to a lot of his music, but I'd never heard that one, and never knew it was the name of one of his songs.

Now that Em tune is stuck in my head… thx.

I agree, but I would bet we don't go QB at #2. Sometimes you have to go with what you have to go with. Even Cam Ward isn't the 2nd best prospect in the draft.

I understand QB's tend to go early if you need a QB, but IMO the gap is too far from selecting Carter or Hunter.

I think we will probably select a QB with our 2nd pick, even it is a trade up in to the 1st round. At that point the player value and the pick value even out enough to warrant a reach of sorts.

To be clear, I'm on board with getting back Flacco. I think he'll be a great mentor for Pickett and whomever te Browns draft. However, the way things are falling, it's looking more and more like Flacco will be the day 1 starter. If that is the case, how many games will it take before those loyal Flacco fans to start calling for his head if the Browns get off to a poor start? Let's be real here, those same fans posting the rah rahs for Flacco today are the same fans that will be calling for his scalpe if the Browns start out 0-4 or 1-4. The Browns have one of the most difficult schedules in the NFL in 2025. Browns fans don't have a history of being patient regarding QB play - will 2025 or 2026 be different?

Why would you call people who like the signing "rah, rah fans" or them as being "loyal to Flacco"?

When a QB is playing well you support them. Even when they're struggling you hope they do better. That doesn't make you "loyal or rah,rah". When a QB is losing not only do the fans want a change at the position but the coaching staff as well make a change at QB at some point.

That's the very nature of the game at the QB position.

But nice attempt at the spin.

Great memories of 2023. Those couple games of Flacco was incredible. Sadly, 2 games later, I was in Houston to witness the letdown. I am nearing Medicare age and lived and died with the Browns since 1969. I just want to see the Browns play in a SB. I am running out of time. I have to be optimistic at the start of each season.

What I really like about Joe Flacco is he is a veteran who can help set a culture in the QB room of professionalism. The Browns really have not had that since Bernie Kosar. There needs to be adults in that room that studies, works hard, and that culture needs to be built and set so any future QB will follow that standard. Flacco being here to go thru mini camps, OTS's, and training camp and showing everyone what it takes to prepare. He also has a ring on his finger that proves he knows what good work looks like. Flacco, Pickett, and whatever rookie that gets drafted this year learns how to prepare in that room and sets the expectation to the rest of the team. I believe that is what having adults in that room will do for the Browns.

I totally agree and also predict this. Buuuut what other choice do we have? Cousins would have raised the win total probably 2-3 games but still .500ish. And there’s nothing else. I’m curious what young buck they draft but I have minimal hope this year of quality QB play and equally minimal hope of netting more than a backup in the draft. I mean, it’s just the numbers.

I'm not sure Flacco can play a whole season. His last full season was, I believe, 2017.

Berry and Stefanski said Pickett and Flacco will compete for the starting job. I would not be surprised if Pickett wins. If Flacco wins, I hope they let Pickett start every four games. Otherwise, Flacco will not last the season. Father Time has not lost yet!

He even commented that one of the reasons he was successful his last stint here was because he got to go in fresh without having gone thru the rigors of training camp, preseason and early season games.

Hey I can still run a 4.5 40


Of course that's a 4.5 40 foot dash now.

I run a 4.5 in the 4 foot.

I don't even run. What's the point?

Is it a given that Flacco will be our starting Qb or can Picket win the job?


We have all seen that Pickett is a pedestrian regular season Qb
But, he has been a spectacular pre-season Qb

Is there any chance he wins the job?
Seems like stefanski and berry like him

If he were to win the job, one bad play and chants for Flacco start up

I assume this was the reason why the FO let Flacco walk last season

They were afraid of chants of Flacco with Watson

if Watson was expected to play like a 230 million dollar QB

Then the FO shouldn't have worried about chants

If Watson played like a 230 million QB there wouldn't have been chants

Looks like the FO got one thing right

They knew there would be Flacco chants because

Watson sucked !

Pretty sure there will be chants this season also

I wouldn't worry about who starts and yes, Pickett could win the starting the job. There is a 100% chance both will start game(s) at some pint this season and a 0% chance either plays a full 17 games.

Afraid of chants? That alone should tell the Browns FO the fans know more than they do. Watson was a bust from day one and we all knew it. Flacco finally proved it to the Browns in 23. Then the front office dumped him after the season because they were afraid of chants? Hard to believe, they threw another season away because of fan reaction? There needs to be some serious changes in the FO if that’s truly the case.

You write that as if the "afraid of chants" comment is coming from the Browns. Saying the Browns paid attention to the fans in making a decision, then making a decision about why they did not resign Flacco because of a fan comment is interesting.

I suppose that interesting could be a word used to describe the possibility of believing some concocted conspiracy theory that someone hatched in their own mind.