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An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...nds-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/

Apparently, the admin sent a Salvadoran man with protected status ordered by the courts to the El Salvadoran Mega Prison/Labor Camp. Now in court, they told the judge that there was nothing that could be done because that prison is outside of their jurisdiction. But this comes after they told the courts during a hearing on a preemptive filing that deportation had not as yet occurred and that the court could not rule unless deportation first occurred. Putting the court in a catch 22 and effectively castrating it. I don’t think this will stand, and if it does, it marks the end of democracy.

Sorry, I don’t have a paid sub to the Atlantic to post the whole story. But this video covers it well.

Illegal importation:





Thanks Joe!

He sould have just labeled them as gang members and paid El Salvador to hold them in prisons or sent them to Guantánamo Bay.

Try to focus.

I agree. They broke our laws coming to this country so anyway we get them out is fine. They are all criminals coming here illegally.

So you think just saying they're gang members and shipping them off to a prison in El Salvador is fine? No proof required?

Yes, as far as the USA is concerned, they showed no regard for our laws and broke the law coming here so serving prison terms elsewhere is fine with me.

You do know this is not the process nor the sentence for entering this country illegally don't you? Doesn't what the law says mean anything to you anymore? You advocate we ignore our own laws? What you have posted is a prime example of how laws don't mean anything to some people anymore.

Allowing people to enter this country and turning a blind eye is ignoring the laws of this country. Get the criminals out. If they entered illegally, they are criminals and need to go. OCD "Bless your heart"

See, you are avoiding the entire point but I don't blame you. I have stated over and over again that people who entered this country illegally and don't have legal status to be here should be deported.

We have laws in place to do exactly that. What I'm asking you about is the fact that they are sending prisoners to places like El Salvador and Guantánamo Bay by simply claiming they are "gang members" with zero evidence to support they are gang members or committed crimes that call for prison sentences.

Deporting people is one thing. Paying El Salvador and paying to imprison people in Guantánamo Bay with no criminal charges and no proof they deserve to be serving a lengthy prison sentences is something completely different.

Would you like to try and address the actual point this time?

Sounds like a possible deterrent for anyone who wants to come here illegally. I do not care once they get the criminal out of the country.

So you don't care if trump follows the law or people who aren't actual gang members are forced into prison while your tax dollars pay for it? Like I said before, you don't care about the law as long as in the end you get what you want by any means necessary. Thanks for making that even more clear.

These people have poured over our border raped and pillaged and now we are supposed to have bleeding hearts that a Leader is getting them out. Try again!

Round 'em up, Ship 'em out. Come here illegally, don't cry like snowflakes when your ass is removed.

Please let me know how many people trump sent to an El Salvador prison and to Guantánamo Bay "raped and pillaged" anyone here?

Once again you think getting them out pf the country is the same thing as sending them to foreign soil and having them locked in prison. So now you claim if you object to people being thrown in prison with no evidence to prove why they were sent there means you're "a bleeding heart"? Do you think Jesus would say to send people to prison with no evidence just because of where they are from?

For someone whose sig. quotes the Bible you don't sound much like a christian. But so many of you have lost your way it's getting hard to keep count.

Exactly. Yet that is an argument nobody has made in this thread.

These people are criminals. Plain and simple. They can go to prison. That is what they deserve for breaking the law of this country. Being a Christain does not change the way I feel about criminals. I want to live in a country that is safe to live in. I want my family to be safe. I want my communities to be safe. Maybe if you cared more about the life on an innocent unborn child and less about a grown-up criminal you could lecture me on being a Christian.

So deporting them as the law says to do isn't enough? You think the law doesn't matter? So it's up to people that think as you do when the law applies and when it doesn't? Deporting them out of the country wouldn't make yor family "safe"? It sounds like you're just making excuses why it's okay to imprison people that the law says does not deserve to be in prison.

Foreign terrorists (which these gangs are considered) don't have legal protections in the US.

Problem is, the guy in the original post was here legally

They are now deporting people here legally

What's to stop them from deciding that they don't like Swish or OCD (sorry guys, I like you) so they send them to an El Salvadoran prison?
No charges, no trial
Just Bye!

Yet they have provided zero evidence they belong to gangs. In fact they admitted they made a mistake and sent one there they weren't supposed to send yet refuse to bring him back. There are more of them that are highly questionable. Is that how you think things are supposed to work?

Let me guess. You don't care.

They refuse to bring him back? Hmmm, that's a story I haven't heard. Do you have a link?

Using something everyone can agree on - kick foreign gang members out of the country with the real motive => getting rid of due process.

But you know. "They're saying". Providing zero evidence but "they're saying".

I believe he's referring to this:

https://apnews.com/article/el-salva...p-error-818a0fa1218de714448edcb5be1f7347

Oh, I know what he's referring to. Where does it say we're refusing to bring him back?

An ‘administrative error’ sent a Maryland man to an El Salvador prison, ICE says

President Donald Trump’ s administration has acknowledged mistakenly deporting a Maryland man with protected legal status to a notorious El Salvador prison last month, but is arguing against returning him to the United States because of his alleged gang ties and the U.S. government’s lack of power over the Central American nation.

Lawyers for Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, 29, maintain he is not affiliated with MS-13 or any other street gang and argue the U.S. government “has never produced an iota of evidence” that he does.

Abrego Garcia was arrested in Baltimore on March 12 after working a shift as a sheet metal apprentice in Baltimore and picking up his 5-year-old son, who has autism and other disabilities, from his grandmother’s house, his lawyers’ complaint stated.

Abrego Garcia was then sent to the Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, which activists say is rife with abuses and where inmates are packed into cells and never allowed outside. Abrego Garcia’s wife later saw him in photos and video from the prison, identifying her husband through his distinctive tattoos and two scars on his head.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials admitted in a court filing on Monday to an “administrative error” in deporting him. The government’s acknowledgment sparked immediate uproar from immigration advocates while prompting Vice President JD Vance and other administration officials to repeat the allegation that he’s a gang member.

MS-13 allegation stems from a 2019 arrest

Abrego Garcia came to the U.S. illegally from El Salvador around 2011, “fleeing gang violence,” according to his lawyers, and made his way to Maryland to join his older brother, a U.S. citizen.

“Beginning around 2006, gang members had stalked, hit, and threatened to kidnap and kill him in order to coerce his parents to succumb to their increasing demands for extortion,” the complaint states of his life in his native country.

Abrego Garcia later married a U.S. citizen and worked in construction to support her, their son and her two children from a previous relationship.

The allegations about his affiliation with MS-13 stem from a 2019 arrest outside a Maryland Home Depot store, where he and other young men were looking for work, according to the complaint.

County police asked if he was a gang member and demanded information about other gang members. After explaining that he wasn’t a gang member and had no information, he was turned over to ICE.

ICE argued against Abrego Garcia’s release at a subsequent immigration court hearing because local police had “verified” his gang membership, the complaint said. The evidence they cited included his wearing of a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie and a confidential informant’s claim that Abrego Garcia belonged to MS-13’s “Westerns clique” in Long Island, New York, despite having never lived there.

Abrego Garcia filed for asylum, while his lawyer submitted a “voluminous evidentiary filing establishing his eligibility for protection and contesting the unfounded allegation of gang membership,” the complaint stated. In response, ICE cited the information previously provided by local police.

An immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s asylum request in October 2019 but granted him protection from being deported back to El Salvador. He was released after ICE did not appeal.

Abrego Garcia’s lawyers say “he has neither been convicted nor charged with any crime” and has fully complied with the conditions of his protected status, checking in with ICE yearly.

Abrego Garcia’s lawyer, Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, said U.S. government lawyers had multiple opportunities to try legally to deport him, including appealing the judge’s 2019 decision or deporting him elsewhere.

“There are lots of things they could have done,” Sandoval-Moshenberg told The Associated Press. “But each one of those is in a court and gives him the opportunity to defend himself. And they didn’t do any of them. They just put him on an airplane.”

ICE calls deportation ‘an oversight’

In its court filing on Monday, the Trump administration said ICE “was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador,” but still deported Abrego Garcia “because of an administrative error.”

An ICE official called his deportation to El Salvador “an oversight” in a statement submitted to the court on Monday.

Robert Cerna, ICE’s acting field office director of enforcement and removal operations, wrote that it was “carried out in good faith based on the existence of a final order of removal and Abrego-Garcia’s purported membership in MS-13.”

The administration argued against his return to the U.S., citing alleged gang ties and claiming that he is a danger to the community.

They also argued that the court lacks jurisdiction in the matter because Abrego Garcia is no longer in U.S. custody.

The administration wrote that Abrego Garcia’s attorneys “do not argue that the United States can exercise its will over a foreign sovereign. The most they ask for is a court order that the United States entreat — or even cajole — a close ally.”

In response to criticism, Vance posted a screenshot of court documents related to Abrego Garcia’s 2019 bond proceeding on the social platform X and wrote that “it’s gross to get fired up about gang members getting deported while ignoring citizens they victimize.”

Abrego Garcia’s removal comes as Trump follows up on campaign promises of mass deportations. Last month, he invoked the 18th-century Alien Enemies Act, granting himself powers to summarily deport to a notorious El Salvador prison hundreds of Venezuelans who were deemed by U.S. authorities to be associated with the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua.

Abrego Garcia was deported at the same time on March 15 but under the U.S.’s general immigration laws, not the wartime powers act, the White House said.

https://apnews.com/article/el-salva...p-error-818a0fa1218de714448edcb5be1f7347

I definitely don't want to get into the middle of the discussion, especially since I heard about it this morning on the way to work and don't know all the details. This is a quote from that article:

ICE argued against Abrego Garcia’s release at a subsequent immigration court hearing because local police had “verified” his gang membership, the complaint said. The evidence they cited included his wearing of a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie and a confidential informant’s claim that Abrego Garcia belonged to MS-13’s “Westerns clique” in Long Island, New York, despite having never lived there.

This is from a CBS News article:

ICE officials have admitted that Abrego Garcia's deportation was due to an "administrative error," but are opposing the request to have him returned to the U.S., according to court documents.

Abrego Garcia was deported from the U.S. on one of several flights that sent alleged gang members to the CECOT.

CBS News reported that the March 15 deportation flights carried 238 Venezuelans and 23 Salvadorans, all of whom were described by officials as gang members.

In court documents, the Department of Justice (DOJ) said federal courts do not have the authority to bring Abrego Garcia home since he is now being held by the government of El Salvador and is no longer in U.S. custody.

So you didn't listen to the comments she made in the press conference or the comments of J.D. vance?

What are they supposed to do if the court lacks jurisdiction?

According to them every court lacks jurisdiction to challenge anything he does or the judge should be impeached. Haven't you been paying attention? When did you decide to take the "They said it so it must be true" approach? Or is it the "They said it so prove it's a lie" approach?

I gave you the evidence of what you asked for so now you pivot to something else. It's a game you've gotten pretty good at.

They send people like the people that took the doctoral student and they’ll be paying for at least one broken jaw… all I’m saying. I’m too old and sick to fight 6 of them, but one would pay a price for sure. See a NAZI punch a NAZI. And Ice is playing the role of NAZI in the El Salvador BS. But I’m lily white so I won’t go to a concentration camp until they turn on low level political dissidents.

They are arresting or kidnapping (depending on the POV) American citizens now.

I'll give you the win. You say "refuse", I guess that's close enough to accurate.

I am sorry the "Maryland Father" was sent to that prison.

We should make all efforts to get him out of that place, then drop him in Guantanamo where the conditions are much nicer. At that point, determine once and for all if the guy is a banger or not. If so, ship him back. If not, bring him back here, say sorry and give him and his family $200 worth of gift certificates to Outback.

OK...just kidding about that part. Give them $1,000,000 for the trouble.

Guilty until proven innocent ... Got it

Where are your ancestors from?

I still don't get the ICE agents in black masks, and unmarked cars essentially kidnapping that doctoral student off the street in Boston.

That is just not illegal, that is wrong.

Yeah, I get it, but anyone in the country arrested has the right to due process. Well, at least that is what prior Supreme Courts has said.

Maybe they will get a picture with ICE Barbie.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is being done for effect / intimidation and to get the word out.

He was accused of being a gang banger, found not to be a gang banger in court, given legal protection and given a work permit. They just didn't tell you that part. Obviously from you snarky post you don't give a damn though.

His name is Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. He's originally from El Salvador, has been living in Maryland since 2011 when he fled his native country because of gang threats. In 2019, he was arrested in the U.S. and was accused by another man of being a member of the MS-13 gang. Abrego Garcia was not charged with a crime, although he was put into removal proceedings in immigration court. He fought that case, and he won. Ultimately, an immigration judge granted a form of legal protection called withholding of removal because it found that Abrego Garcia was more likely than not to face harm if he was sent back to El Salvador. In spite of that, ICE officers arrested Abrego Garcia in Maryland last month outside a relative's home, and a few days later, he was deported to El Salvador along with hundreds of other men who are accused of being members of MS-13 or the Venezuelan gang called Tren de Aragua.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/01/nx-s...an-sent-to-el-salvador-prison-by-mistake

What you're describing here aligns much closer to what Russia does with its accused. The main difference is that Russia gives them a trial (it's a sham, but appears to be more what the Maryland guy got).

It's wild that MAGA can parrot lines like "I don't even recognize this country" and "we need to save this country" but are totally fine with things like due process and checks and balances being erroded/destroyed.

Maybe the guy was a gangbanger, maybe he wasn't (as his lawyer argues). At this point IT DOESN'T MATTER. This admin has a well established track record of treating the core pillars of our democracy and rights of its people as inconveniences.

If erroneously deporting people to a Salvardoran prison and then just going "oops, oh well" is fine with you.... we're probably not going to agree on a whole lot if we can't agree on core values... you should also consider what could happen when the elections swing way over the other way (which always happens) and we find ourselves being governed by MAGA's biggest boogiemen after showing how unimportant these core values/guardrails really are.