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Let me rephrase then, there is Rosen and Darnold worth a 1st overall pick then there is everyone else. Any vet we get is on the wrong side of 30, QB at number one is the only smart move.

Things are clearly different than 5 years ago.

You can see it by how many obsessed, diehard fans on this message board haven't been around for a while.

In the past, when I couldn't be home for a Browns game I would record it and watch it later. This year I didn't een bother.

And 2007 was probably the worst year to pick. That was the Derrick Anderson year and we were 10-6

Wish I would see more posts from you and less from some others. LOL

I agree w/you and W84. Not sure that is what the Browns will do, but I agree w/you guys that we need to take a qb at 1.

Jay Cutler has passed for 227 Touchdowns in the NFL, over Twelve Years, in 3 separate divisions;

He's looking for somewhere to go to be a starter
would cost you nothing in drat picks
would cost little to medium amount dollar wise.

But it's not HIM, it's the idea that maybe they should take a look his way,
This idea, is what you choose to Jest.

Would it help you beat the Steelers I'll ask? or? Rookie Quarterback?

ROOKIE QUARTERBACK!!, the crowd yells!

I don’t really know how I feel about AJ but I expect us to have option 1 at the start of next season. He knows Hues system from his days in Cincinnati and he wouldn’t be considered a long term solution. Then we would draft our future franchise QB with the first pick. I personally prefer Rosen but I’ll be happy with either of those rookies. To me there are only 2 options with that pick.

No matter what FA QB they bring in, they still need to draft the best QB this year at #1.

I agree.

1.) Bring in a FA QB, do not trade for one. That will save at least 2 high draft picks. I love what Alex Smith could do for the Browns, but an 0-16 team needs as much draft capital as it can get.

2.) If the Browns happen to luck out and sign Cousins, there is no need for Rosen or Darnold. Cousins turns 30 in August. He still has at least 8 good years ahead of him. The Browns would be set for the future.

3.) As much as I would like to see Cousins come here, I do not expect it. Bradford, Keenam, Bridgewater, Cutler or Moore are the realistic choices. Any of them would create a need to draft a QB with the first pick due to injury concerns, age, attitude or lack of skills ( compared to Rosen or Darnold ).

While I agree that we should not draft a QB #1 if we are able to sign Kirk Cousins, I don't understand why people think QBs are good till they're 38.

Here is a list of QBs who played at the age of 34 and older:

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That list is littered with single good seasons or Hall of Famers. Relying on Kirk Cousins to be good that long is not reasonable.

The Browns have the money and the draft picks but in the past have lacked the balls to go after a QB. Instead they always settled for less. It's time they get aggressive and get the man they want. Veteran or rookie, though I would prefer a veteran and lets turn this sorry team around.

It has been a long painful process to gain the money and draft capital we have. I hate to see us waste it on a trade for a veteran QB or on an unneeded 1st round QB if we were to sign Cousins. I just feel it would be a waste of draft capital, if we spend the money needed to get Cousins here, then take Darnold or Rosen with # 1 or # 4. Use the draft to fill the slots we desperately need to fill .. Free Safety.. RB .. WR .. Tackle.. Cornerback, because we would have filled the QB need by picking Cousins in FA. We can always sign a lower round project pick later in the draft if we feel that Kizer or Hogan don't fit as backups, just not with our 4 top 36 picks.

Vers. I just had a wild ass thought.

Would we be so aggressive with the QB spot that we'd Sign Cousins AND take Darnold or Rosen #1?

Sit the Rookie this year and then turn the Keys to him in 2019 and TRADE Cousins? Signing a Vet in 2019?

We'd for sure net at least a 1st Round pick. Probably a Top 10 pick from a Crap team needing a QB.

Is that Crazy Overkill? I just woke up.

First, you can't predict injury. The rook stands a s good a chance as anyone else.

Cousins won't sign with us unless we tell him we won't take a QB with those first 2 picks.

He has been crapped on in DC his whole career. We wants a team who wants him.

I couldn't agree more. We need impact players. Browns fans need wins, not promises.

I wouldn't say it is crazy, but I don't know how realistic it is. It will cost us a ton of money to sign Cousins. You typically don't draft a player first overall to sit. I also don't know about the dynamics of the QB room if Cousins is looking over his shoulder and the fans/media call for the rookie every time he throws a pick or loses a game.

Bro, I have no idea what the Browns will do. I think we can make the case for going w/Cousins and trading down a bit. I think you can make a case for drafting either Rosen or Dorsey at one and bringing in a solid vet who isn't really a threat to start. I think you can make the case for trading for Smith and still draft Dorsey. I left Rosen out of that last one because I think he is truly ready to start day one.

I have seen all of those suggested on the board and I don't think any of them are illogical. I guess it just matters as to what we personally prefer. I don't think drafting Mayfield or Jackson at one is all that logical, but who knows...

We can speculate and it's fun to talk about, but I have no idea what the Browns will do.