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bottom line is he stole 2 years from me wanting a franchise QB. not because of talent... which is up in the air anyway.. but from being a punk. i could forgive if he tried and fail to be a nfl QB..... but just a punk.


I guess I just don't understand the direction your anger is pointed in. His dad had publicly stated he had a major drinking problem that his family had tried to help but couldn't. His antics were out there for everyone to see. Manziel was the same punk BEFORE he was drafted.

In regards to Manziel, I place far more of the blame towards those who ignored all of his issues and drafted him anyway than I do towards the player they expected to evolve into what they wanted him to be.


Honestly, I knew before the draft that he was a bit of a party animal, but what I didn't know is that it was as bad as it turned out to be.

You would think that when you are the GM of an NFL Team and that you have so much riding on the few picks you get each year, that you would hire people to overturn every stinking rock to get all the info you need to make an informed decision.

Actually, with the advent of social media and other forms of background gathering techniques, there just isn't an excuse for a team to make a bad decision when it's in regards to his off field behavior.

On Field, well, that's a horse of a different color. Great in College, dud in the pros.. it's guess work at best.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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bottom line is he stole 2 years from me wanting a franchise QB. not because of talent... which is up in the air anyway.. but from being a punk. i could forgive if he tried and fail to be a nfl QB..... but just a punk.


I guess I just don't understand the direction your anger is pointed in. His dad had publicly stated he had a major drinking problem that his family had tried to help but couldn't. His antics were out there for everyone to see. Manziel was the same punk BEFORE he was drafted.

In regards to Manziel, I place far more of the blame towards those who ignored all of his issues and drafted him anyway than I do towards the player they expected to evolve into what they wanted him to be.


yes. poor johnny is blameless....its the girl... its everyone else...pffft


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Yeah, the people who drafted him couldn't judge character and that's Johnnie's fault.

I didn't say he was blameless. But all the red flags were there and it was the FO that brought him here in the first place. If you know a guy is a party boy, why draft him in round 1?


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
If you know a guy is a party boy, why draft him in round 1?


Because a homeless person told you to.

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He's a lost cause.. FSU bikini model posted a vid of them together in a bed.. didnt show his face.. but showed one of his tattoos to prove its him. smh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCYwPv4sL2_/


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Idiot.


Who, him or the bikini model? Likely both, factoring there's no way she's not aware that he's being indicted for striking his girl and threatening her life.

Stupid, idiotic and common senseless people deserve each other, I hope they have a great time before Manziel goes, well hopefully, to jail.

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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
He's a lost cause.. FSU bikini model posted a vid of them together in a bed.. didnt show his face.. but showed one of his tattoos to prove its him. smh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCYwPv4sL2_/



The dude looks lucky to me. Damn, she was stunning.


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He is lucky. He is a gifted athlete, wealthy parents, free college education, good NFL salary...now he is flushing it all down the toilet.

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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
He's a lost cause.. FSU bikini model posted a vid of them together in a bed.. didnt show his face.. but showed one of his tattoos to prove its him. smh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCYwPv4sL2_/



Click that link and compare the position of the "Proverbs" tatoo with the one of the pic you posted. In the pic, the tatoo is horizontal on his chest. In that video it runs vertical down past his nipple.

But why spoil a harmless lie?


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No, that tattoo in the video is in the same spot as Johnnie's and runs across the chest horizontally, not vertically.

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Could her boobs be any bigger? Are they going to fall out of her shirt?

That's all that video made me think. It's a self promotion video.

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Could her boobs be any bigger?


Probably.

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No, that tattoo in the video is in the same spot as Johnnie's and runs across the chest horizontally, not vertically.


I stand corrected. Thank you. I read his body position wrong.


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