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Nice read on Braylon.

http://nfl.com/news/story/10174994
By Pat Kirwan
NFL.com Senior Analyst

(May 10, 2007) -- This time of year, things are getting quiet around the NFL. The post-draft minicamps aren't really that eventful, but the veterans are starting to gather to check out the new draft picks, show off their weight loss, and start talking about the 2007 season. I had a chance to talk with a number of players this week on my Sirius Satellite Radio show, Moving the Chains, with my partner, Tim Ryan, about a number of subjects around the league. Concussions, the discipline policy, a wage scale for rookies and the offseason program were just a few of the subjects covered.

Here are a few of the veterans we talked to and what we learned:

Braylon Edwards, WR, Cleveland Browns: Edwards was so impressive, especially in the growth and maturity area. He has dedicated so much of his time and resources to the youth of his hometown of Detroit that he is becoming a poster child for the NFL. Edwards believes the Browns are ready to step up and challenge the AFC North teams. As he said, "It wasn't fair to judge Romeo Crenel until now; we didn't have the talent or coaching, but we do now." Edwards and all of his teammates seem focused on their opening game with the Steelers as a defining moment about their progress. Edwards wasn't cocky in his comments but he does feel his Browns are going to surprise some people.


The offseason is no time to slow down, according to Antonio Pierce.
Antonio Pierce, MLB, New York Giants: Pierce is one of the most prepared football players in the NFL. He spends countless hours watching tapes in the offseason as well as during the season. He struggles with teammates who don't want to be around the facility all the time working on the 2007 season. Pierce, a former Washington Redskin, was very surprised that Redskins coach Joe Gibbs made a big portion of the offseason optional. He said when he was in Washington, Gibbs always emphasized the importance of being at the facility. Pierce, as well as many around the league, is interested in what the results are going to be with fewer restrictions on the spring preparation. As for a rookie wage scale, Pierce saw 30 linebackers drafted before him and about 25 of them are out of football. All 30 made more money than Pierce coming out of college, so it's easy to figure out how he feels about a rookie signing bonus.

Kelly Gregg, NT, Baltimore Ravens: You talk about blue-collar football players and the name Kelly Gregg best suits it. We talked about how valuable his high school wrestling experience was to being a very good NFL tackle. He understands leverage and made a very interesting point about the centers he plays against. Gregg is barely 6-foot tall, and when I asked him about the toughest center he has played against, he said it was Casey Wiegmann of the Chiefs because he was short like Gregg. Gregg feels he loses some of his leverage game against the shorter centers but he loves to play against the 6-4 centers because he can work under their pad level and that's when the high school wrestling takes over. Gregg had a few comments about the money rookie draft picks make and sounded like he would surely vote for a rookie wage scale until the players proved they could perform at the NFL level. Gregg is not alone in that sentiment by any means.

Chris Cooley, TE, Washington Redskins: Cooley is one of the Redskins working out at the facility and is very excited about where the offense is headed in 2007. He believes his young quarterback, Jason Campbell, is ready to take a big step in his development this year. We also talked about the concussion issue that has become a target of Commissioner Roger Goodell and he said the mouthpiece is critical to the safety of the players and definitely aids in the prevention of concussions.

Sean Morey, special teamer, Arizona Cardinals: Morey was the backbone of the Steelers' special teams and he followed Ken Whisenhunt to Arizona. He pointed out quickly that the Cardinals roster has four players that have been Pro Bowl alternates on special teams and that means the Cardinals will be terrific on special teams. Morey also felt the new emphasis on running the ball is going to change the way the Cardinals play this year. When I asked him to evaluate Matt Leinart's arm strength, which the draft reports said wasn't strong, Morey answered with a laugh and a comment that the report was ridiculous. On concussions, Morey, who has had a number of major collisions, said keeping the mouthpiece in at all times helps to reduce the severity of the hit more than prevent concussions. As he said, headaches are inevitable in the NFL, especially if you're on special teams.

I remember reading the same things about Gerrard Warren. I'll believe it from Braylon when I see it on the field.

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Edwards was so impressive, especially in the growth and maturity area.

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Can we get some better proof other than he does charity work.


how does Charity work make him mature??? Isn't it required by the NFL or something??

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Edwards wasn't cocky in his comments but he does feel his Browns are going to surprise some people.

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No, that's not cocky.


I like the guy as a player, but man, he should keep his name out of the headlines until he makes the Pro Bowl.

Honestly, I like the guy. I think he has been saying a lot of good things lately. I really enjoyed some of the things he said during the draft. This will be a good judgement year for him. He is healthy, we have a returning starting QB, a upgraded Oline, a healthier Winslow (I hope), and a better running game. On paper this is his opportunity to really make a mark. He just needs to catch everything and be a team player.

Aside from the drops, the only thing he has ever done to make me scratch my head was the comment regarding Brian Russell and the hit on CJ.

Other than that, I like the fiery attitude he has.

Raleigh

I hate how you guys make a big deal out of nothing....

It's the freaking offseason..he was a #3 pick overall who is talanted and a good player(yes i know u don't think so...but he is) There arent ton of people to interview on the browns....K2 n BE will be the face of this franchise until BQ can step up

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Uhhh......Braylon......Those were coaches hand-picked by Crennel.

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I think he means that HE and the other rookies weren't coached by crennel yet...they weren't use to his style etc.... i can't believe how hard you guys are trying to make this guy sound like LEON it's annoying as hell.....

To make things worse i'm defending a MEEchigan player..may god help me

You obviously don't read my posts well.

I never have anything but good things to say about Braylon Edwards as a player, on the feild.



His mouth, on the other hand, has got to stop.

I think he meant that the coaching and the talent needed time to develop and now, in Year Three, it should be nice and ripe. Although, we almost completely overhauled our offensive coaching staff and scheme, so I imagine that will take additional time to develop as well. We must continue to be patient with this team, including Braylon.

What do you expect? Edwards has been a clown.

Like I said on the other board....I see better than I hear, Braylon. We'll see if you act like the temperamental diva again this year or if you have your head on right.

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Yeah because he should expect to lose, thats what mentality I want from my star receiver

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I seem to remember him saying similar things about the Steelers last year...How did that end?

Oh ya, we lost.

It's ok to be cocky, and "know" your gonna win, but you keep that in the locker room and not in the papers.

Sorry, that's just how I see it.


Lastly, please don't call him a "star", he is hardly a star when he hasn't even made the pro bowl yet.

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Hmm, I don't think he called the newspaper and said "Hey I have something to say" You know reporters go to the celebs for comments right?

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I would agree with you...if this was the first....or even second time he said something silly.

and maybe he wasn't being cocky, but he sure wasn't being humble.

I don't see that as ridiculous. When Braylon starts running more routes correctly in a game than incorrectly then he'll have room to spout off. Until then, zip it and play. Hell, a good part of why Charlie is considered a turd by most of you experts is because BE and KW were running wrong or crappy routes causing Charlie to hold onto the ball too long.

Don't wanna make this into a rant but Braylon needs to put up or shut up. Period.

Good thing the NFL decides every year is a new year and everyone starts at 0, because it's obvious that fans feel all past transgressions are carried over.

Jeez, if the guy spilled his gatoraid on the sideline last year, he is considered clumsy this year?

Ya but Character traits don't start fresh with the new year.


Your not gonna see me stop drinking and running marathons because it's a new football season.

Point is what he said isn't cocky, it's optimism.
What would you be saying if he said "Well we are going to suck this year, we should all just take the year off and write it off as a wash."



Jeez, can't wait for August, every time a player has an optimistic point of view on the season, I'm going to call him out for having a cocky attitude.

Ok, you win he isn't cocky.



he is arrogant.

Jesus...some of you will bitch about anything.

Something positive...and you have to bash it. It's one opinion (a nice one), and he wrote about it.

He backed up Romeo and said his team was focused. How is that cocky or arrogant?

Lighten up folks.....

If this kid went to OSU, you would be all about defending his every move and action.

You'd fit in good with these folks.
Braylon Bashers

I agree... good read on Braylon. Hopefully, he's figured it out over this off-season and he'll become the poster boy for the "Third Year WR Breakout" theory. He certainly has the talent. All he has to do is focus and apply it.

I listened to the whole interview driving to Pittsburg the other day,and I must say,I came away impressed with BE.I haven't been a fan of his,but this little blurb just doesn't do him justice.It doesn't convey the spirit,nor the meaning,of what he actually said.He had nothing but praise for the coaching staff,his teammates,and Charlie Frye.He deftly sidestepped all Brady Quinn questions.
As far as his charity work,no the NFL doesn't require it.He has set up a schalorship(sp?) program for inner city kids in Detroit to tune of $1mil of his own money. He has instituted sports safety gear giveaways to youth orgs,again his own money.
He came across as an intelligent,caring individual,not the load mouthed buffoon I thought he was.

It's not personal, I just get tired of hearing about it from the "experts" with such certainty. It's as if his downfall is preordained and anyone who doesn't see this guy as a big mouth no talent must be an idiot. My opinion: Let the guy grow up and play football. Has he made mistakes? Sure. Does he need to improve on the field and in the locker room? Of course. But this need to jump on anything positive written or said about the guy is beyond ridiculous. Savage and Lerner have gotten in front of this issue about his growth and maturity and stated he is a decent young man and they support him while helping him deal with his issues and short comings. It's old news as is all the acrimony. It's a new season, the guy gets another chance. The coaches and FO have made their decision. So all I'm saying is, how 'bout we wait and see how he develops in his third year, healthy with a new attitude before convicting him in the court of opinion?

Regarding trade rumors... well, so what?

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Savage said wide receiver Braylon Edwards' name never came up in trade talks Saturday.

"When Braylon Edwards' name gets thrown around, it's because they recognize he's a talent," Savage said.

Source: CantonRep

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At least Edwards understands the importance of the opener. It will be a defining moment.



Like last year, the home opener will pretty much dictate the fortunes of the season. Win, and we might win 8-9. Lose, we are probably stuck on 5.

Winning at home is something this team has to start doing, and starting the season in the hole in that department pretty much sets the tone.

This team has to start giving the fans something to feel good about so they in turn can begin to feed off of the fans. Losing out of the gate to the Steelers will pretty much put a fork in the fans. It will take 3-4 wins in a row to equal what that one win could do.

Boys....win that friggen game!

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Last thing I will judge a player on is a fan vote.

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While this is true, that still doesn't make Braylons numbers Pro Bowl worthy.

Im hoping both Braylon And Travis take over and dominate the two WR spots..

I hope they play w/ intensity like a Michael Irvin...

I hope they catch with hands like Marvin Harrison...

I hope they run routes like Jerry Rice...

I hope they help the Browns win games like Super Bowl Champs...

I understand every ones beef with BE but I don't see anything in this article that would make me jump on his case. If you want to complain about his past actions than thats fine you have every right to.

As for the article it was a positive article and he said all the right things. I just hope it carries over into the season.

Put a QB who actually has an arm on the field, get some confidence in our team as a WHOLE and you'll see more of this:

The kid is an athlete.

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