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An editorial, it's pretty accurate. The Tricks People Use to Avoid Debate A proper argument takes intellectual vigor, nimbleness, and sustained attention. If carried on long enough, it can push both parties to a deeper level of understanding. Oxford debaters hack away at each other for something like two hours. Socrates could sometimes go on for weeks. But who has that kind of time anymore? Better to just shut things down quickly, using one of a new array of trump cards. Want to avoid a debate? Just tell your opponent to check his privilege. Or tell him he’s slut-shaming or victim-blaming, or racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or transphobic, or Islamophobic, or cisphobic, or some other creative term conveying that you are simply too outraged by the argument to actually engage it. Or, on the other side of the coin, accuse him of being the PC thought police and then snap your laptop smugly. In the art of debate avoidance, each political camp has honed a particular style. Conservatives generally aim for the prenup approach, to preempt any messy showdowns. If you want to join the club, then you have to sign a contract or make a pledge—no new taxes, no abortions, no gay marriage—and thereafter recite from a common script. Progressives indulge a shouting match of competing identities that resembles an argument but is in fact the opposite, because its real aim is to rule certain debates out of bounds. We’d like to blame social media for this development: it’s hard to carry out a Socratic dialogue in 140 characters or less (and yet so easy to bring down mass outrage on an offending voice). We’d like to blame academia, where easy outrage can make you popular. We’d like to blame some distant radical fringe. But the truth is, declaring certain ideas out of bounds has led to some pretty powerful victories. The left has made it politically and socially treacherous to oppose same-sex marriage. The right has done the same with raising taxes. The tactic has lately proved surprisingly effective, but it comes with a high cost: also politically treacherous is empathy, or humility, or actually hearing out your opponents.
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I hate debating. 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I do. I hate debate almost as much as I hate sarcasm, irony, and the poor old oxymoron. 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I don't mind debate at all =) Its not that hard to see when its gotten to the point of just going through the motions though and at that time I lose interest. I will sometimes play devil's advocate contrary to my own feelings just for the fun of it =)
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate 
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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I just thought the article was a pretty accurate description of what goes on here.
It made me smile.
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I get amused by people on this board who argue with others, find subtle ways throw in jabs and insults, but then spell words incorrectly, or use the wrong your (when it should be you're). Good article though.
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I just put then instead of than in another thread 
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you 'r e nutz!! 
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? 
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A wise person knows whether or not to say it.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? lol bruhh.....
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
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Rock, that might be one of the simplest, most concise, and most well-articulated things I've read in a long long LONG time. Thanks a lot for finding and sharing.. now if we could just get those in power (and not in power) to read it, understand it, and stop doing it.  ... and that includes ME.
Last edited by DCDAWGFAN; 06/24/15 09:40 AM.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? http://masterbaitonline.com/
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? Hey at least I am a master of something 
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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you 'r e nutz!! What about 'em. Oh, I see. 
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? Hey at least I am a master of something Channeling George Constanza: - " I am the master of my own domain"
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? http://masterbaitonline.com/ LOL "we are stiff competition" Course I needed glasses to read that. 
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate so if you are an expert at baiting a hook does that make you a master baiter? Whats the point if you don't get a nibble here and there to catch a wet and slippery one.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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I have no problem with debate unless it's not working. Then I just open my tackle box and try some new bate You seem like you are pretty knowledgeable in Baiting. Are you a Master baiter??
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I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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