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To be honest, I have no logic behind this post. There's just been one every year except for this year in the draft forum.

I could see us trading 19 out of the first round for a 2 and a 3 or something along those lines. This assumes the two QBs go 1 and 2 (in which case I see the opposite happening).

Anyway, discuss.

Honestly, I like the idea of trading down for more picks.

If a team such as Green Bay (just using them as a random example) is interested in moving from #30 up to #19 and offers us a 2nd & 4th round pick to swap, I say absolutely go for it.

I have a lot of faith in Ray Farmer, and loading him up with more picks seems like a smart move, and their are still a handful of guys that could be available at #30 for us to select.

Maxx Williams, Arik Amrstead, T.J. Clemmings, Nelson Agholor, ect.

I would also be thrilled if we could trade out of #12 and grab another 1st round pick next year. Maybe a team such as New Orleans or Dallas wants to move up.

We swap 1st round picks this year while grabbing an extra 3rd & 5th rounder and a 1st round pick next year.

The only way I'm trading out of #12 is if Kevin White, Amari Cooper and Danny Shelton are all gone, or unless the deal is completely loaded in our favor.

I can't see us trading down... except for trading with OAK TN TB or Jacksonville for their first draft pick next year.

Yea, I posed this in another thread. If we're going to solve the QB position this year it might be a good idea to straight swap a first this year for someone's 1st next year and some additional picks. That way we have the Ammo for Cardale or whomever they're thinking. If McCown is the starter for 16 games we're going to be picking very high. Add another 1st and we may have enough to get whoever we want next year.

You people are NUTS! You don't trade down when you have TWO NUMBER ONE PICKS!!!!!!!!!!
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SUCK SO MUCH!
We need the 12th and 19th best players in the draft. NOT TRADING DOWN.......GEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...........

1. Well they aren't picking in the top 5.

2. They already have 2 first round picks.

3. The roster is probably as ready to go B.P.A. as any year since 2006. Several spots on the roster are already held by quality of players that one might draft in the trade down to mid round range.

So I think they've reached a point where the Trade Down for more picks isn't the "most" enticing option to contemplate.

But I'm wrong a lot . Just feeling this is not the year.

Well, if this were the Raiders roster we were dealing with, then of course, they need tons of help

I think there's a good possibility that all 3 would be picked in the top 11, but don't think that's a reason to avoid picking the best player available, at 12.

We need the best possible players available. Oakland isn't that much worse than us. At least they have a promising young QB, something we don't have or ever have had.

I agreed with this principle when you posted it before. It may not be possible, but I like the idea.

That is certainly logical.

I am always in favor of accumulating more draft picks for the current draft and future drafts. I'd do it every year. The draft is pretty much a crapshoot, the more swings you have the more chances at getting a hit.

Yep. I agree.

If we can get a deal like we did last year, trading down 5 spots for an extra 1st, 4th, and 6th the following year, then I am all for it.

Guys, we already have 10 picks. How many rookies do you realistically expect to make the team this year?

If we begin to add picks, I want them added next year. For this year, I would like to see our 10 picks turn in to 6 actual selections. I'd like to see us somehow gain another 2nd rounder

I'm on board with this post, 'peen...

but that would be trading up

There is always someone that is a top 10 talent to fall out of the top 10 every year so hopefully that person is someone the Browns need with 12 and select him so I'd really like for them to make the selection at 12 unless someone offers a bunch to move up.

At 19 I can realistically see a team like the Cowboys wanting Gurley or Gordon if they are still there and the Browns trade down and select someone like Maxx Williams before Denver and NO take him late in the first. If the Browns can trade down from 19 and pick up a 1st for next year and couple other picks for next year that would be fine with me. Keep stockpiling the picks year after year, that's what the Patriots did for years and it gave them the ability to move around in the draft to get who they wanted each year. I'm not saying we will draft 10 players this year or if we get extra picks we'll take 9 or 10 next year but draft picks are assets in the NFL.

That is a key point...

It's not a bad idea at all IMO. We got these "what if" people like Justin, Johnny and etc... No problems, especially with the 19th pick, trying to trade down and acquire more picks for next year (when we will have a better understanding of what we have in a few of our players, which will let us know what real holes we have to fill)

What about trading for picks next year?

1. Having the same starter all season, that would be wonderful.

2. If McCown starts all 16 games, I'd assume we'd win between 6-10 games.. More towards the 7-8 wins.. Putting us right back where we are this season..

We aren't going 3-13. The team is too talented for that.

What if Carolina wants to trade up from #25 to #12 to select a really good defensive back? (That kid from Michigan State?). They offer us a 2nd & 4th this year along with their 1st round pick next year?

Then as I said Green Bay wants to move from #30 to #19 and they offer us a 2nd & 4th this year to swap picks with them?

That's a best case type of scenario right there (in my opinion) regarding trades, but it would load Farmer up with the #25 and #30 picks (where we could still draft a couple of quality players). We're then looking at having three 2nd round picks, and four 4th round picks.

Someone pointed out that our roster already looks pretty good, we could fill the four or five glaring needs we have, and then maybe Farmer could trade some of those extra picks for picks in next years 2016 draft?

It's exciting to think about that possibility, and seeing how Farmer navigated last years draft, I would say it's incredibly possible he could be looking to land more picks and continue stocking up for the future ala the New England model of building.

Why would you want less picks? That makes no sense. If a guy stinks, cut him. The deepest teams almost always end up cutting a late round draft pick or two each off-season.

Also, having more picks allows you to move around to get the guys you actually want.