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stand for what?

the difference between him and myself is that i can and will say what i post to someones face.

ya know, I'm a man. he's a boy.

he's already demonstrated multiple times that he can dish it but can't take it.

see, he'll come somebody stupid and such, yet the moment somebody fires back at him, he puts them on ignore cause he has the emotional toughness of a 12 year old girl.

so he can be smarter than me. i'm still better than him in LIFE. so it doesn't bother me.

I'm sorry but how can you control being attracted to the opposite sex?

Sometimes when I read your posts I think of Meathead Rob Lowe.

thats cool. whatever you think is what you think. i dont need to use spray on tan though.

LMAO

Swish you remind me of my brother who says thing contrary just to be contrary. I do not really have the ability to believe that after all the posts I have written and that you have commented to that you fail to understand me.

How do I control it? Really? It starts by keeping their dick in their pants Work on that and the rest will follow =)

I think enough has been said and explained in this forum about this topic to satisfy both sides so I plan to leave it alone for the time being.

How do you rewire attraction genes you are born with?

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Celibacy is always an option if YOU are greater than your basic instincts. Let's not have a double standard.

Thank you. I really appreciate it.

Did Jesus stop? I am being serious here. If we are supposed to be following the path of Jesus, should we stop?

Now I don't bring matters of Faith into sports threads, or threads that have nothing to do with religion or Faith but I cannot just stand by and pretend that matters like this are not impacted by the Bible. My biggest problem would be that a lot of people who go whole hog after gay people ignore the straight people who are sleeping around, outside of marriage, and even those who cheat on their spouses. I do not believe that those are behaviors the Bible approves of either. However, these topics don't come up as often here. (or in the wider world either)

You can't always control feelings, but you can usually control behavior, at least if you choose to. However, in today's world, we make it harder and harder for kids to live a moral, Biblically based life. If a young man, for example, says that he is waiting for marriage before he has sex, what do people automatically think about him? Do you think that he gets called names? I already know the answer to this one.

If a young woman says that she is going to wait to have sex until she is married, how is she treated? If a couple has been dating for 6 months and has not had sex, what do people ask them when they find out? "Why not???" It is almost like it is expected anymore.

There was a time when many people waited to be married before they had sex. Not all, obviously, and in fact, I would guess that probably many more people had sex than we think when we go back to our grandparents' times. Then such things were frowned upon, and today they are celebrated.

Maybe if we weren't at the point where porn is everywhere, where half the ads on TV are sexual in nature, and where society treats you as being a freak if you aren't having sex with someone.

The things you see most tend to rule your thoughts. When people are constantly bombarded with sex, what do they think about? Controlling oneself is almost never factored in.

Jesus, even from readings in the Bible, showed massive amounts of tact. He also said something about letting those without sin be the first one to cast a stone.

Just sayin'...

But not the person they love?
So how long do you expect your child to want to come around and hang out with dad if they can't be who they are in your house? How long do you think your relationship with them will last if they know you don't accept them and the person they love? How long will you be able to maintain a relationship with someone that knows you think they're going to hell to burn for eternity? How long will your influence and ability to reflect Jesus' unconditional love towards your child last when you've driven them from your life.
See. I've watched my Dad drive my sister from his life because he loves her so much he can't stop telling her how she's going to burn in hell. Awesome technique for bringing others to Christ. (Extreme sarcasm.) He not only lost a chance at her soul but he lost his daughter altogether. I've told him as much. He just can't stop loving her to hell.

I never said I had a problem with you bringing it up or stating your opinion. But I believe if you seriously look back at how many times and how much detail you have went into on this subject over and over during the course of this thread, you may find it borderline obsessive.

That's just my opinion. To me, there comes a point that differentiates preaching to someone and preaching at someone. That's all I was trying to say.

And this further illustrates my point of the difference in preaching to someone rather than at someone. Once someone knows your beliefs and why you believe it, it's up to them to accept or reject.

A continuous bombardment only serves to drive them away.

If you think that Jesus never got angry, then you haven't read much of the Bible. Jesus could also be very blunt when he needed to. He often spoke to large groups in the form of parables, which are usually nice stories, (though not always) but he also rebuked His own Apostle Peter at one point.

You speak of not casting a stone, but I have not done so. I cited the Bible. I suppose I got closest to doing so by speaking against those who call out one sin, and ignore a number of much more common sins.

People disputed the lesser detail, so I expounded.

And you have every right to. I was just expressing my opinion.

I am doing a rather in depth study (for my own information) on the nature of hell, and I am becoming less convinced that the image people have of an eternity of suffering is what actually happens. The Greek uses a couple of different words that are translated "hell", like "Sheol", which means pit, or grave, a place of the dead ...... and Gehenna, which was a valley outside of Jerusalem, where trash was continually burned. It is also where the bodies of condemned criminals, who no one claimed, were dumped.

Revelation speaks of Satan, the Beast, and his prophet, and those who worship him, burning "forever and ever", but not ordinary sinners suffering that fate. There is a parable about the rich man and Lazarus, where the rich man is dead, and suffering untold torment, and the man asks Abraham to go warn his sons, and Abraham refuses, saying that they have enough warnings already, and if they would not listen to the ones they have, why would they listen to more? I think that this may have been more hyperbole than actual account, because the Bible says that we sleep until the resurrection, and a man's family would not still be on earth in that case. Further, this would be before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I think that the view of hell as this horror show is more a tradition than Biblical account. Some even say that Jesus descended into hell after he was crucified, but the Bible does not say that. It just says that he died.

I will share what I believe, and this is for whatever it's worth .... (and people should check for themselves) but I believe that unrepentant sinners are denied eternal life, and their dead bodies, souls, and spirits are tossed into the fire like so much trash. They are destroyed there, and that's it for them. There is no hope of resurrection for them. They are utterly, and completely destroyed.

That is what I believe based on what I have read in the Bible, and checking the meanings of words used for hell in the original manuscripts, and at the time they were used.

This is called tact. He didn't go around proselytizing in such an abrupt way that many of his "followers" do. He walked amongst the poor, the destitute, the prostitutes, and kept company with them. Sure, he pointed out "moral flaws", but he found common ground through caring friendship.

Gandhi sums it up the best on christianity in that “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

I can appreciate what you are saying, however, I felt that there was value to be had. No biggie. I am sure that some will completely skip over the post, but I felt that a complete picture was warranted.

Westboro Baptist Church also disagrees with you.

I just want to clear something up so people don't get the wrong idea…everything is good now with my living parent now. Just took a few years for it all to sink in and for (both of) them to realize it really didn't matter after all.

Your beliefs, believe it or not, really don't have any impact on my life. Nor should they.

I'm pretty sure the 15th anniversary is chocolate diamonds. Just saying…

That's fine. You absolutely must make your own decisions.

Yes, but you don't seem to want to ALLOW us to. What now?

Y-town you are correct in that there is not a hell where you are tortured for all eternity. There is simply a lake of fire so hot that when you are tossed in your soul is completely obliterated. Very much what atheists hope for. To live their life doing whatever they want and then to reach oblivion when they die the true death. Most of the false ideas about hell are from secular writers like dante and some of the brimstone pastors that try to use fear of torture to scare people into Christ.

IMHO if you can't accept Jesus's love first and then return it then you don't deserve to be by his side for eternity anyways. If you accept his love then you will want to live your life in a way that makes his sacrifice have meaning instead of spitting on it with even more sin.

Lol I like that quote from Gandi and I feel almost exactly the same. At least 50% of people who call themselves Christians have no relationship with Christ and have this false idea if they just go to church they will make it to heaven and because of that they are as lost as the rest of the sinners Mon-Sat. Some just don't know any better because their preacher is too weak or scared to preach the truth.

Believing in God has nothing to do with being saved. I promise you the Devil believes in God very much and it does him no good at all.

That's simply Amazing.

A Serial Killer, Mass Murder and these pedophile catholic priest can still go to heaven because all the have to do is repent, thus turning their sins into an Etch N Sketch, like it never happened,

yet someone who is just a decent person who enjoy their life and never did any crimes will burn in a lake forever.

And yet y'all wonder why more and more people aren't taking religious people seriously.

It's a difficult cross to bear to be sure. I am pretty sure I would not hound her to death over it. How she chooses to treat me is up to her but my door is always open to my children. I am not going to say what I would or would not do though since I doubt I will ever be in that situation. Parents just do the best they can. It's up to the child to accept their teachings or suffer for ignoring them.

If your asking if I would ever accept their behavior then no. I would not. I am not going to accept a lifestyle that leads my child to oblivion. I don't think a father who really cares could just sit by and watch that happen. It's no different than rushing ahead to stop a bullet to save them. Their life or soul is in danger so you do what you can to save them even at your own expense. Sometimes no matter what we do we just can't save them but we should be trying until the very end.

So it's ALL on the child. None of it would be your doing? Sounds about right after reading your thoughts.

Being a good person has nothing to do with going to heaven. Accepting Jesus as the sacrifice for your sins is what gets you to heaven. You don't EARN your way to heaven because you can't. You simply have to accept a very kind gift and then change your life to one where you follow Jesus.

God is our heavenly father. He loves ALL his children. ALL OF THEM. He loves the sinners and the lost too. That is why he is God because only he could accomplish that. Does a father hate his child because they do something bad? No. He will get angry and punish them. Then he will forgive them once they ask for it and never stop loving them.

Still if they don't ask for forgiveness he won't forgive them. To be forgiven you have to ask for it and then show that you meant it. Some have more to be forgiven than others but to God he will forgive any of his Children if they just ask for it. A better father I do not know of.

A parent can teach their child how to live. A parent can love their child. A parent can't live their child's life for them. The child makes their own decisions and just like all the rest of us they have to live with them.

My child choosing to do something bad doesn't mean I should change thing so that its suddenly good. Sin is sin, I can't change what is a sin no more than I can make something right that is wrong. That applies to all things in life and not just homosexuality.

I pray that my children will walk a righteous path. I can't force them to though. Just like Jesus my arms are open with love no matter what though.

See here's the thing. All sin offends God. Every single one. Lie about why you're late for work and it is a sin as assuredly as if you had pushed a button and murdered 100 people. Sin is sin to God. Every sin is worthy of death by God's Law, and we all sin constantly.

God gives us a way out though. We just have to take it. Most won't, though.

I assume that this was meant to respond to me?

Anyway, You can make your own decision, but that does not necessarily mean that you can make your own laws. There is a difference. I can decide to go to the lake. However, if I fence the lake off and forbid anyone else to swim in it, I'll be in trouble. There is a difference between laws and decisions.

Funny, that's exactly what you want to do. Thankfully, those that use religion to try and alienate other humans are no longer getting their way.

ain'tcha heard?
They's got "reorientation camps" and such for folk like that...

To allow you to what?