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Packers player had $190K, 357 grams of pot on him when arrested

By John Breech | CBSSports.com
February 4, 2015 9:28 pm ET

What started as a routine traffic stop turned into a giant drug bust for police in Florida and now Packers defensive lineman Letroy Guion is facing two felony charges.

A cop in Starke, Fla., pulled Guion over on Tuesday night after he noticed that Guion was having trouble maintaining his lane, according to a police report obtained by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

As the officer continued with the traffic stop, he noticed the smell of marijuana. At that point, Guion was asked to step out of his 2015 Dodge Ram and then the officer called for backup.

Police then performed a search of Guion's truck and found 357 grams of marijuana (.79 pounds), a 9mm semi-automatic handgun and $190,028.81 in cash. In the police report, one of the officers noted that Guion was "extremely uncooperative and hostile."

Guion was then arrested and charged with felony possession of marijuana and felony possession of a firearm. Guion's gun was registered, but he's still facing the felony gun charge because it's illegal to have a gun around illegal drugs in Florida.

According to the Bradford County Sheriff's website, Guion was released from jail on a $100,000 bond at 2:27 p.m. on Wednesday after spending over 14 hours in the can.

Guion, who tallied a career-high 3.5 sacks in 2014, signed a one-year, $985,000 deal with the Packers before last season started and is set to be a free agent in March.


What he had with him

this guy is dumb.

but florida laws continue to boggle my mind.

His gun was legally registered, but because he had pot, theres a law that trumpts that?

huh?

I just don't understand some of these guys.

Unlike some states, pot possession isn't legal in Florida. Possessing a firearm & pot at the same time is frowned upon.

Personally, I don't think that either should be banned but Florida can make it's own rules regarding pot. The firearm; however, is legal under the 2nd Amendment anywhere in the country.

Right and wrong. The gun is legal (if it's a legal gun) However, in some states, certain forms of carry or conceal or transport are illegal.

I have a concealed carry license. In Ohio, I can now carry in a bar or restaurant that serves alcohol, where as just about a year ago, I could not.

However, if I'm carrying concealed, I can not have 1 drop of alcohol to drink. If I do, I'm breaking the law, even though the gun I carry is legal, and registered to me.

I don't see how carrying a gun/having a gun with illegal drugs is any different.

He didn't have a little pot for his own personal use ..... unless his name is Cheech or Chong. That sure looks like a major drug bust type pile of pot there. Further, that much pot, with that much money ..... and a gun (legal or not) sets off all kinds of alarms, no matter what state you're in.

Well, I would never subject myself to registering any weapon that I own with any government agency. I wouldn't submit to registering myself with any permit issued by a government agency. They have no authority over it whatsoever. They are only charged with protecting my right to own/carry, not making decisions with whether I can own/carry.

If you buy a gun at a store, it's registered. If you choose to buy at a gun show, or from an individual, it's not registered under your name, but probably under someone elses......just saying.

If you want to carry a concealed gun, it's best you register in the state you live in. If you don't, and you get caught......uh oh.

Like it or not, gov't agencies DO have authority over this. Let's face it, we aren't talking about a gun in your own home. The guy had a gun in his car. With drugs. With $190,000.00 plus in cash. Do the math.

And yes, like it or not, gov't. agencies CAN make decisions about your ability to own, or carry. First thing that comes to mind is if you're a felon...if so, you can't legally own a gun, let alone carry it.

Wow... just wow.

These guys never heard of carriers?

can not belive how drug stupid they really are.... correct that... just stupid.

on a side note.... player busted with drugs and mike and mike lead in story was textgate.... where are the priorities?

He got busted with a little over 3/4 of a pound. That is not really all that much weed, and for someone who is wealthy and likes to smoke pot buying a pound of weed for hima and all the people who party with him is not all that strange.

The weapon , I understand for protection.

The riding with almost 200 grand is the odd part.

That's true you can roll ( pun intended) through a pound of pot in short order at a party.

Hell, just one good batch of brownies or spaghetti sauce seasoned just right can eat up ( pun intended) alot of it.

So after some of the dust settles its not as bad as it seemed. Money is from his account from working was going to give family.


Report: Letroy Guion’s gun was unloaded in box, cash from Packers paychecks


While Green Bay Packers defensive tackle Letroy Guion may have trouble explaining why he had 357 grams of marijuana in his car, it does appear he may have legitimate explanations for his hand gun and nearly $200,000 in cash.

According to Adam Caplan of ESPN.com. Guion’s hand gun was unloaded in a box with a permit to carry in Minnesota. In addition, the $190,028.21 he was carrying was able to be connected to Guion’s bank accounts and was intended to help his family in Florida.

Guion was initially pulled over for failure to maintain a single lane. He was released on $100,000 bond.
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Good, a happy ending.

Yep.



Or not.



It's best you not let the government know. And if I were to get caught with an unregistered handgun, I'd go on trial.



Only to allow me to possess it. The 2nd Amendment still rules over state gun laws.



And the state can make it illegal to possess the drugs and they can say that having a weapon, registered or not, while in possession of drugs which aren't legal exacerbate the offense.



No they can't. Even a someone is a felon and has served their sentence, once a free citizen again, the Bill of Rights are reapplied. This includes the 2nd Amendment.

If we're willing to accept that a person loses their basic rights (of defense - which is why there is a 2nd Amendment) then we shouldn't pretend that we live in a civilized country or that we are free.

Just wanting to explain the law. Any time you have possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, it's illegal. Once you are in possession of a felony amount of weed, that makes having the gun a felony also.

.

It's crazy to think of weed possession as being a felony crime. What country do we live in that less than a pound, basically what I could grown on one branch of one single split plant, is a FELONY crime. Shouldn't that label be used for real acts of crime such as murder, rape, armed robbery... Wow.
I'm so tired of the puritanical act that this country puts on, meanwhile it's being run by corrupt robber barons with no scruples.

I don't disagree. Personally, I wouldn't smoke pot if it was free but I don't think it should be criminalized at all but it should be left up to the various states to decide and there shouldn't be a federal law governing it.

Yeah.... perhaps.

Still, what kind of "help" did his family need that required a 190K transaction in CASH?



Still sounds a bit sketchy to me....

The cops are allowed to keep the cash due to the civil forfeiture law thingy, right? Did they?

They would also have the right under law to seize his vehicle, home, bank accounts and anything else he owns until such time as he produces evidence that the money spent to buy them and acquire the money came through legal means.

Well, it depends. In any case, they wouldn't be able to take it until after he has his day in court and is convicted.

States seize cash, property from motorists


Des Moines, Iowa (CNN)—On a bright, clear morning in April 2013, two professional poker players from California were heading west on Interstate 80 in rural Iowa when they were stopped by two Iowa State Troopers.

Before that stop was over, the officers had seized $100,000, which the men said was money to play poker. The troopers also called ahead to California authorities, who raided the men's homes and ultimately indicted one of them, John Newmerzhycky, on a charge of illegal possession of drug paraphernalia.

If this sounds unusual and way out of the ordinary, it isn't. The seizure is just one of thousands of highway stops that state and local authorities call "interdictions:" Roadside stops aimed at catching drug dealers or even terrorists, but which can also result in cash seizures alone with no criminal charges attached.

It's called Civil Asset Forfeiture, and it was started in the early 1980s by the Justice Department. It has since migrated to thousands of state and local jurisdictions nationwide. The program, when it originated, was meant to target and take money authorities believed was connected to crimes.

A legal advocacy group based in Washington called the Institute for Justice has been battling Civil Asset Forfeiture for years.

"It violates due process for Americans," said Larry Salzman, an attorney for the group. "It's wrong. It's a simple premise that the government should not be taking money from people who have done nothing wrong. It shouldn't be taking money from people who have not been charged, let alone convicted, of any crime."

In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

"It has had widespread and deep impacts on my life," said William "Bart" Davis, one of the two poker players. "It's my primary focus right now. It's made me aware of the things I was unaware of. And made me angry."

Other examples are rife.

In a small Nevada county two hours driving time east of Reno, a single deputy sheriff has been responsible for more than a dozen cash seizures in 2014 alone, according to a lawsuit filed on behalf of motorists whose money was taken.

That deputy, Lee Dove, asks one motorist in a dash-cam video how much money he has on hand. When the driver answers, Dove said, quote, "It's not counted is it? Well, I'm seizing it."

Dove was so proud of his cash seizures that he autographed photos of himself with a bundle of money at his feet, accompanied by his K-9 dog.

CNN wanted to ask him about the seizures but he didn't answer when our team approached his security gate just after nightfall. As we were driving away a few minutes later, two Humboldt County Sheriff's deputies pulled us over even though we hadn't done anything wrong. One of them said their colleague, Dove, "had been going through a tough time" and had called them to complain about our presence. The newly elected sheriff in Humboldt County, Mike Allen, said Dove is still with the department but has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of a state investigation.

Allen said the entire program is suspended pending that investigation and that any future stops must have a clear connection to criminal activity.

"I want to know what crime they're investigating, and what evidence do they have to substantiate that crime before any property is seized, " Allen said.

The Justice Department recently said it was backing away from the civil asset forfeiture actions it had been taking for nearly three decades. Its records show it seized more than $6 million in the most recent fiscal year. Now, the department says it won't benefit from most seizures any longer.

"With this new policy, effective immediately, the Justice Department is taking an important step to prohibit federal agency adoptions of state and local seizures, except for public safety reasons," said Attorney General Eric Holder.

Critics like the Institute for Justice, however, say that doesn't mean the elimination of the practice. The institute's president, Scott Bullock predicted it will continue in most states around the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/