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EPA Chief: 'Aspen’s Climate Could Be a Lot Like That of Amarillo, TX' in 2100

7:02 AM, Jan 29, 2015 • By JERYL BIER

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator Gina McCarthy took to the EPA and White House blogs Wednesday to declare that "We Must Act Now to Protect Our Winters." McCarthy was in Aspen, CO, last week, the famous ski destination and home to an X-Games venue, and she warned that without action on climate change, "Aspen’s climate could be a lot like that of Amarillo, TX, by 2100."

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As someone that has lived in Amarillo, Texas - I don't think anyone should be afraid of such a future. Amarillo's climate is fantastic!

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Climate change is real.

Nothing we can do to stop it. The planet has always heated and cooled.


But It's all about just taking care of our planet. I think thats why nobody wants to take it seriously because of the way guys on the left deliver this.

If I was to go to you Anarch, or 40, and be like "hey bro, your factory is killing off the fish, and a lot of guys like this fishing hole here by the river", you're probably more likely to say "Aight i'll figure it out, don't worry about it."

now, If I came to you and said "Your factory is destroying our planet and now we can can't ski and enjoy the outdoors because we are breathing crappy air", like a lot of liberals do, then you're probably gonna be on the defensive and ask for proof and not really believe it.

just my opinion.but these guys need to learn that every situation doesn't need to be delivered like the world will end TOMORROW if we don't act.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Climate change is real.

Nothing we can do to stop it. The planet has always heated and cooled.


Yep, which is why nothing we do can alter it. The planet will heat up and cool repeatedly.

What's more laughable about those that believe in 'climate change' being caused by humans (in any meaningful way) is that we can alter it (in any meaningful way). We don't have the capacity to do it. We might as well try to extinguish the sun.

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We're getting 3 feet of snow in NYC Shut it down, shut it all down! willynilly

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Well, we do jack up the planet though.

Deforesting is still a big problem. Remember, for the longest they stopped letting people go to those Islands off the coast of South America because people were screwing with the nature and such like the Turtles.

also there's a huge problem with plastics being in the ocean.

But yea...climate? we have a minimal impact. This was going to happen regardless of what we do. But we shouldn't be making things worse.


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If mankind cleaned up all its pollution and cows stopped farting and the World became as clean as could be,

Mother Earth would let loose a Volcano the size of Texas and laugh as all our work went to waste.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Well, we do jack up the planet though.

Deforesting is still a big problem. Remember, for the longest they stopped letting people go to those Islands off the coast of South America because people were screwing with the nature and such like the Turtles.

also there's a huge problem with plastics being in the ocean.

But yea...climate? we have a minimal impact. This was going to happen regardless of what we do. But we shouldn't be making things worse.


The planet has had deforestation going on for far longer than humans walking on it. The Sahara Desert was once a lush forest - and it wasn't so long ago. Desertification happened before man came along with the Industrial Revolution.

The North Pole was once a tropical destination complete with palm trees and prehistoric alligators. Long before man ever entered the scene. What happened?

We could approach it from the angle too that humans are part of nature and that as such our activities to adapt our surroundings to fit us is just as natural as anything else that occurs.

Belief in 'global warming' or 'climate change' shows how fully incapable some people are to process factual information and that includes many scientists. Behind every view promoting the idea that man is the cause of or has any meaningful impact on the climate outside of buildings is a political agenda.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

If mankind cleaned up all its pollution and cows stopped farting and the World became as clean as could be,

Mother Earth would let loose a Volcano the size of Texas and laugh as all our work went to waste.


Or, at least the size of Yellowstone.

Despite all our human attempts to understand the planet we live on, it reminds us ever few years of how much we really don't know.

In 2004, a monumental earthquake, over magnitude 9 on the Richter scale struck off the coast of Sumatra sent a tsunami across an ocean to cause more than 12,000 deaths in India, more than a thousand miles away and even deaths in Somalia, several thousand miles away.

In total, more than 200,000 people died as a result and all human efforts to prevent it from happening failed. The event that caused it happened in little more than a few seconds and there was nothing we could do to stop it.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Well, we do jack up the planet though.

Deforesting is still a big problem. Remember, for the longest they stopped letting people go to those Islands off the coast of South America because people were screwing with the nature and such like the Turtles.

also there's a huge problem with plastics being in the ocean.

But yea...climate? we have a minimal impact. This was going to happen regardless of what we do. But we shouldn't be making things worse.


The planet has had deforestation going on for far longer than humans walking on it. The Sahara Desert was once a lush forest - and it wasn't so long ago. Desertification happened before man came along with the Industrial Revolution.

The North Pole was once a tropical destination complete with palm trees and prehistoric alligators. Long before man ever entered the scene. What happened?

We could approach it from the angle too that humans are part of nature and that as such our activities to adapt our surroundings to fit us is just as natural as anything else that occurs.

Belief in 'global warming' or 'climate change' shows how fully incapable some people are to process factual information and that includes many scientists. Behind every view promoting the idea that man is the cause of or has any meaningful impact on the climate outside of buildings is a political agenda.


what? bro the continents were also not in the same positioning they are in now. you can't mention factual information then up and forget that nugget of intel.

you're trying to make excuses for the fact that right now, overpopulation, deforestation and other stuff that HUMANS contribute to is have an effect on the planet, maybe not as much as mother nature, but an effect none the less.


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There's a major difference between us cutting down the rain forest and a climate change that happened 12,000 years ago. They are incomparable.

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what? bro the continents were also not in the same positioning they are in now. you can't mention factual information then up and forget that nugget of intel.


Bro?! And they haven't moved all that far in 12,000 years (the Sahara) or even 55 million years (the North Pole).

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you're trying to make excuses for the fact that right now, overpopulation, deforestation and other stuff that HUMANS contribute to is have an effect on the planet, maybe not as much as mother nature, but an effect none the less.


I'm not trying to make excuses for anything and I don't accept your premise that the world is overpopulated or even deforested. You could say that there are portions which are deforested but you couldn't state it emphatically because those portions are relatively small or aren't caused by man.

And, I would contend that the effect on the planet is zero, or if there is any impact at all, it is next to zero.

I'll tell you this, the advent of cultivation agriculture about 12,000 years ago has changed the landscape far more the industrial revolution.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
There's a major difference between us cutting down the rain forest and a climate change that happened 12,000 years ago. They are incomparable.


Just so you know, I haven't cut down a single tree in the jungle.

Are they incomparable? Why? There are innumerable examples of climate changes in which man had no effect whatsoever because he either did not exist or he hadn't the means to effect the climate in any meaningful way.

An ancient neanderthal killing a wooly mammoth didn't bring on or end an ice age. No matter how much you want to believe in the butterfly effect.

We didn't impact the climate when hydrogen bombs were exploded in the Bikini Atoll in the 1950s.

Pour yourself a drink.

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EPA Chief: 'Aspen’s Climate Could Be a Lot Like That of Amarillo, TX' in 2100

7:02 AM, Jan 29, 2015 • By JERYL BIER

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator Gina McCarthy took to the EPA and White House blogs Wednesday to declare that "We Must Act Now to Protect Our Winters." McCarthy was in Aspen, CO, last week, the famous ski destination and home to an X-Games venue, and she warned that without action on climate change, "Aspen’s climate could be a lot like that of Amarillo, TX, by 2100."



Oh sure she picks a date that will not happen until she has been dead and buried so nobody can point and laugh at her poke


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EPA Chief: 'Aspen’s Climate Could Be a Lot Like That of Amarillo, TX' in 2100

7:02 AM, Jan 29, 2015 • By JERYL BIER

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator Gina McCarthy took to the EPA and White House blogs Wednesday to declare that "We Must Act Now to Protect Our Winters." McCarthy was in Aspen, CO, last week, the famous ski destination and home to an X-Games venue, and she warned that without action on climate change, "Aspen’s climate could be a lot like that of Amarillo, TX, by 2100."



Oh sure she picks a date that will not happen until she has been dead and buried so nobody can point and laugh at her poke


This is true too. That's a good point.

I had played the devil's advocate part and went with the basis being accurate and that if it was that it shouldn't be feared one bit.

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EPA Chief: 'Aspen’s Climate Could Be a Lot Like That of Amarillo, TX' in 2100

7:02 AM, Jan 29, 2015 • By JERYL BIER

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator Gina McCarthy took to the EPA and White House blogs Wednesday to declare that "We Must Act Now to Protect Our Winters." McCarthy was in Aspen, CO, last week, the famous ski destination and home to an X-Games venue, and she warned that without action on climate change, "Aspen’s climate could be a lot like that of Amarillo, TX, by 2100."



It could also be under a mile thick sheet of ice by 2100. I will fully answer for my prediction if it proves to be false by then.


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