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It is coming.. This has been in effect for a few years but I can assure you of this.. Don't look at this sort of "exercise" being imposed by OUR service members.. It will occur from the UN.. The UN Arms treaty is the biggest threat to this Constitutional Right..

Our military will follow the orders in the beginning as we are sworn to do but WE are Sworn to SUPPORT AND DEFEND the Constitution as well. When the ideology of leadership places the Constitution and further the security of our country in peril, it WOULD take another country or countries to disarm the world's largest militia... Or some other corrupt organization within such as DHS or FEMA but that is for another topic..

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almost every nation Guard does this, some time of doomsday scenario training.

hell we do it on active duty from time to time.

dunno why this is news.

Oh my bad bro, didn't mean for that to be a direct response to you just a general one to the article.

If I'm wrong in comprehending your post I'm sorry, here's my opinion on what you said:

I've only been e-6 for a couple months and I've only been in 8 years, so I don't have early the experience you do. 19 years? Jesus.... I dunno if I can make it that long.

Well, I guess I see what you're saying. I think the biggest problem is this: a lot of our soldiers aren't going to follow the orders if that means turning on our own citizens. I hate to say this as an NCO, but I wouldn't either.

Now, getting ready for crowd control is a different matter. Depending on your MOS, you do this type of training anyway. I'm more worried about the scenario you mentioned: UN troops or other NATO countries trying to take our 2nd amendment rights away.

I don't think our own government is going to be able to make that happen. Us Americans already prove over and over again we don't like being told what to do, so the only way we even get remotely to that point is if we the citizens decide to do something about it, as in the majority.

But there's too many gun owners, or even gun supporters for the reversal to ever change. I tell you what though, let the UN try something like that.... It'll be the quickest documented war in world history.

What's the over/ under on how many miles inland the UN gets?

depends on if they can even get TO the inland with our Navy and Air Force waiting on them.

but lets entertain ourselves and say they get past them.....i give them a mile before their completely wiped out.

and thats a mile because somebody with their pick up truck drug a body into town to show everybody what a joke their military was.

Does the u.n. even exist without American troops? Would nato even dare to take on the u.s.? I don't know the answers........just asking.

most likely not. UN troops are basically any troops from NATO countries i believe. the problem is, you're right, while we also support the UN, the thing is that UN really only do peace keeping or humanitarian missions.

like remember the incident in Georgia? the UN sent troops, which of course americans were part of, but it was like medical support and such.

but there's really nobody in charge of the UN that can be like, you HAVE to send troops to "name a country" because at the end of the day, it will ALWAYS be up to the country whether or not they will send troops.

and lets be honest, nobody wants it with us, so all they can really do is make threats and the typical "we are against this" press conference.

american influence, whether political, military, or business, spreads way too deep for any handful of countries to risk that just because they think we walk around like western gun slingers.

I didn't take offense to it so no worries..

COMPLETELY agree that there is no way to take the guns.. Its the Ammo.. Look back to last year after the Sandy Hook ordeal and how Ammo became so scarce..

Also look at the amount of ammo that our own gov purchased alone..

The corruption of our elected officials knows no party line.. As much as I disagree with the current admin and feel his is the worst seen in my lifetime, ALL before him and surely all after will bear their fair share of it..

yea...that BS they came up with about using hollow points for "training" was a complete joke.

i think we need more local places, like gun stores, maybe....starting their own factory and making rounds. i dunno how that works but i hope you get what i mean.

i think any conspiracies of the government limiting ammo and such will go out the window once we have more companies making more ammo.

its my opinion the only reason that the government lets us have free reign even now is because we are armed. and it needs to stay like that.

Or we can stop wasting bullets in the name of "stress relief" and idiotic principles like that.

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i think we need more local places, like gun stores, maybe....starting their own factory and making rounds. i dunno how that works but i hope you get what i mean.

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I agree.....but bullets and brass were about as overpriced and scarce as cartridges.

The shortage is simply being caused by hoarding. Folks are afraid there'll be some government ban on ammo and they are buying it up at a quicker rate. Nothing is making it to the shelves. Especially .22 long! Manufacturers all say they are going full throttle but can't keep up. A skid that may have lasted a month now sells in hours. The shops then order more causing the manufacturers to fall behind. It's epidemic across the country.

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Well, I guess I see what you're saying. I think the biggest problem is this: a lot of our soldiers aren't going to follow the orders if that means turning on our own citizens. I hate to say this as an NCO, but I wouldn't either.

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I believe you are right, and hope so if it ever came to that. I know I wouldn't have. My feeling is maybe 25% would follow orders, 25% would act against the orders, and 50% would simply stand down trying to figure out what side they should take.

Yeah, I feel like we need to worry more about Academi/Black Water than National Guards and whatnot.

Well the government has in fact bought several million rds of Ammo under different depts over the past few years.. For example, FEMA, FDA and EPA?? For what reason should these depts be buying .40 cal and 7.62 and furthermore at an alarming rate?