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I usually wait to post mine up but I figure why not. I had a little bit of extra time and have watched my fair share of film already. I know what my preferred path is.

1)First off those going nuts because we didn't sign Grimes chill. We won't win a bowl this year anyways. Someone will come in for that no2 spot. Most hope it's Milliner. I think there's a slim chance. I''m not even going to predict who it will be so take your pick. I also think we''ll pick up a vet WR so don't freak because I don't have us taking one early.

2)The Browns will sign JaMarcus Russell. Yeah I'm that guy. Our GM has unfinished business after getting canned right after the drafting of Russell. If he completes his comeback the probability is highest of any team that he ends up here. Three way competition? None are long term unless Russell decides to do something so take a shot and let the new FO get their kid next year if it all goes down the toilet as expected.

3)We will trade Jabaal Sheard. Whether it's predraft or during I think it's going to happen. Do I hope it doesn't? Sure love the guy. I just think our FO will go another direction. For details see the Sheard thread on the Pure Football forum. I explained my thought process very well and lengthy there. For this example Jabaal is traded straight up to the Falcons for #30 overall. It's likely it won't be this cut and dry but to predict the exact of the deal is worthless. The basics will do just fine.

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#6 TRADE I think with this draft being so slight at the top the LT will be a hot commodity early as they drop off hard after 3. Lane Johnson will be available. The other 2 probably not. Miami is looking to entertain fans to get a new stadium. A trade up does that and with an early and late 2nd round pick they can do it. We now have picks #11, 30 and 54 in the 1st 2 rounds.

#11 OLB Barkevious Mingo LSU. The tape on the kid doesn't lie. He is the next in line to be a defensive phenom with low college sack totals. He is a more well rounded Aldon Smith and comparable to a young Demarcus Ware. People who knock him on his size should watch him bull rush Bama's RT 5 yards deep. Needs to improve upper body strength to improve his poor wrap up skills(his only true knock IMO).

#30 FS Eric Reid LSU. It looks like I have an LSU crush but I swaer these are the only two prospects I've liked for years. I love this kids play. He gets a little excited at times and overcommits but as far as upside and skillset no one is close to him in this draft. The kid hits, he's the fastest, he's angry and he's one of the biggest. He could learn alot from TJ on how to control it. I think it's a match made in the war room.

#52 CB David Amerson NCST. I like a guy on the rebound. The guy was a freak as a soph. What happened is anyones guess but again I like Horton and I think he can hone alot of these freak athletes and tune up their game. I also think with a freak athlete it's a pretty low floor as a prospect. Low risk High reward.

#68 ILB John Simon OSU. EO turned me onto him as an ILB prospect for our D. I really like the idea. I think he has the perfect build and skillset to take over as the smasher ILB for Gocong while we groom JMJ to take over for DQ.

#104 TE Nick Kasa CU. He has a ton of upside. I know we have already shown interest in him so it's just matching puzzle pieces at this point.

#139 OG Brian Winters KSU. I go to Kent. Homer pick. Not like it doesn't make sense though.

Well that's it for me. Trying to get 6th and 7th rounds is like a needle in a haystack. I will say though I like us to get a late round WR. I expect one pick to possibly go for a K if necessary. Let me know what you guys think.

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I like Mingo better at 11 than 6, but I might prefer CB Xavier Rhodes there. If we really end up with the #30 pick, it might be good to take a TE - maybe Zach Ertz is still around. Or else take an OLB there at 30 and get your TE at #52. Really like the John Simon pick, because I think he is just a great football player. Not sure he makes it to #68, though. Late picks, I hope we draft a kicker (Hopkins or Sturgis) and maybe FB Zach Boren, another hard-nosed, lunch-bucket football player. Yes, I'm an O-State honk.

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Maybe I missed something but how do we get 11, 30 and 54? Miami has the 12, 42 and 54 picks. I like the premise though. Although I too would probably go Rhodes at 12, Ertz/ FS at 42 and the top FS/G at 54.

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I meant it to be 12, 30 and 54. This new site is confusing and I couldn't the edit.

Yet it allows me to edit this post. Weird. Anyways I am not a fan of Rhodes. I don't see a CB at the next level and I don't think he plays with a high motor. He was a great HS player that has coasted off natural ability.

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There is a time limit on editing posts. I seem to recall 30 minutes ot something like that, but I could be wrong.

As for your mock, I really and honestly don't know why everyone thinks that we're going to trade away Sheard before the draft, and before we get a chance to see him on the field at OLB in mini-camps. That would seem to me to be the epitome of foolishness. Why take a shot at someone else if this kid can do the job? Why dump him before we have determined whether or not he can do the job.

If he can't, then there will still be a trade market for him. I doubt that it's 1st round pick though. I look at the quality pass rushers who hit the market in free agency this year, and who spent far more time looking for a team than I would have thought they would. Given that 1st round picks are no longer extremely expensive to sign, the value of those picks has increased.Sheard is a very solid player, but he hasn't reached great level. I would guess that we might get a 2nd or 3rd rounder if we tried to trade him. He has value ..... but he's not a JJ Watt, or an Aldon Smith. I would think that he has more value to our defense, than in a trade ..... especially in a draft deep with pass rushers.


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3)We will trade Jabaal Sheard. Whether it's predraft or during I think it's going to happen. Do I hope it doesn't? Sure love the guy. I just think our FO will go another direction. For details see the Sheard thread on the Pure Football forum. I explained my thought process very well and lengthy there. For this example Jabaal is traded straight up to the Falcons for #30 overall. It's likely it won't be this cut and dry but to predict the exact of the deal is worthless. The basics will do just fine.

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I understand that you feel we will trade him. I just happen to disagree, and think that it would be foolish to do so, and that we would not get value for him at this time.


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Unless someone offers us a 1st round pick or a high 2nd round pick for Sheard I highly doubt (and hope) that we don't trade him. Having depth at pass rusher is a huge must especially on a rebuilding and young team. Trading Sheard and leaving our pass rush in the hands of Kruger alone is a risk.

I have no beef with any of your picks, you addressed needs except for a new offensive guard. I think somewhere in this draft we have to come away with a new starting guard or at least someone to compete. I think we need to take a guard higher than the 5th or 6th round. Our guards got virtually no push up the middle last season and Trent suffered because of it.

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If we do trade Sheard (Which I hope we don't) I believe it would be for the best TE avalable @ #30 or whatever high pick we get, and I also say if its not a 1 or high 2 we keep Sheard ... JMHO


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I understand that you feel we will trade him. I just happen to disagree, and think that it would be foolish to do so, and that we would not get value for him at this time.




Sorry I was in a rush. Only had about a minute to check in. What i meant by reposting that was go check out the other post if you haven't. I have very good reasoning why I think it's a possibility. If you have I apologize it just was not clear whether you had or not. It was a whole page of explanations on my part so I wasn't going to re-explain everything was all.

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Unless someone offers us a 1st round pick or a high 2nd round pick for Sheard I highly doubt (and hope) that we don't trade him. Having depth at pass rusher is a huge must especially on a rebuilding and young team. Trading Sheard and leaving our pass rush in the hands of Kruger alone is a risk.

I have no beef with any of your picks, you addressed needs except for a new offensive guard. I think somewhere in this draft we have to come away with a new starting guard or at least someone to compete. I think we need to take a guard higher than the 5th or 6th round. Our guards got virtually no push up the middle last season and Trent suffered because of it.




Just a few things. You highly doubt that we don't trade him. Watch them double negatives man haha. You said the opposite of what you meant. And again in the other thread I explain the trade is based off the value being portrayed by the media right now. Which is a late 1st round pick. I can dig up the quotes if you'd like. That is all I'm going by. To trade him for a 3rd I agree would be foolish.

Also Pinkston was a 5th rounder but he is an incumbent starter to some on this board. I don't think you have to have a high round OG to step in and play well. Greco's light just came on this year. Whos to say the same couldn't be said for Lava or Pink. I would prefer a higher OG but we have a lot of needs. Greco played like a top 15 OG last year and I am a personal fan of Lava. I think OG falls behind FS, CB OLB and TE in this case. My point is we have no starter at CB2, TE OLB and kinda FS in this case so OG falls IMO.

I think our OG's got plenty of push when Hardesty was in. If the OGs were the sole problem Hardesty wouldn't have averaged better than our #3 overall HB. We will see what we have in him now that he'll be healed. A vertical O helps a power run game as well.

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If we do trade Sheard (Which I hope we don't) I believe it would be for the best TE avalable @ #30 or whatever high pick we get, and I also say if its not a 1 or high 2 we keep Sheard ... JMHO




If Eifert is there at 30 get the card to the podium. I'm less sold on the guys following him so I think late 1st and early 2nd you can still get the best of a good safety class. Our TE coach was the coach at Colorado with Nick Kasa. He's a freak. Chud likes freaks. I think it's a match made in heaven for a TE lover like Chud to take a late rounder and make him a beast.

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