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Right, my mistake.
But my point is that we were waiting for Chip to finish his Bowl Game, he was our #1 guy, had he agreed to be our coach, he would be.
Marrone was only an option after Kelly wasn't.
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I was surprised Jacksonville hired him in the first place. There were rumblings that the Falcons were going to fire him as their offensive coordinator and then he got a head coaching job.
On a side note, I would take Drew Bledsoe over any of the turd sandwiches we've had at QB the past 13 years.
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Most creative spelling of Bruce Arians yet!
It's funny, that's probably the hardest part of rebuilding an entire front office every few years in Cleveland. All of us on this board are required to learn the spelling of a whole new set of names (some learn at a different rate  ).
I guess that's why Lovie Smith should be hired. Though, I guess we'd get all different spellings of Lovie then too (Louis, Louie, Loviey, Louvee, etc.).
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agreed. though I don't even know if we would have hired Marrone if the Bills didn't.
point was that they were casting a large net and from initial inquiries felt Chip was the best guy and targeted him. he didn't want to come, so they moved on and are casting an even wider net now.
better than talking about some names but only interviewing 3 quickly with the one that we hire not in any type of high demand elsewhere.
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The Eagles have interviewed at least six candidates and have been pretty transparent with their search. They've also stated their plans to interview others as well. They've already interviewed: Mike Nolan Keith Armstrong Bill O'Brien Chip Kelly Mike McCoy Brian Kelly Link
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I personally liked Holmgren's plan of interviewing Shurmur and Some Black Dude and then hiring Shurmur (who was woefully unqualified).
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I personally liked Holmgren's plan of interviewing Shurmur and Some Black Dude and then hiring Shurmur (who was woefully unqualified).
on the same day that Mularkey is fired you are going to just forget about him? sad day for him.
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Give me the CHUD.
That is all.
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Mike Nolan
Keith Armstrong African American
Bill O'Brien
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Mike McCoy After Chip Kelly
Brian Kelly After Chip Kelly
I will say I hate pointing out that Armstrong is black.. but yeah..
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Mike Nolan
Keith Armstrong African American
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Mike McCoy After Chip Kelly
Brian Kelly After Chip Kelly
I will say I hate pointing out that Armstrong is black.. but yeah..
alot of Irish sounding names in that grouping
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Regardless, I count six names, which seems to me contradicts your statement from 40 minutes ago that they've only interviewed two people.
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Did they interview all of them for 9 hours?
Do you know WHEN they interviewed Nolan and McCoy? Because I don't..
My original point was, that they SEEMED TO ME, to be ALL IN on Chip as we were, you don't interview a guy for 9 hours if you are not.
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I will say it sucks for him because he's now likely to never get another shot...Maybe he doesn't deserve it...
But really, Buffalo and Jacksonville, did he ever REALLY have a chance?
Drew Bledsoe, JP Losmon, Kelly Holcomb, Blaine Gabbert, Chad Henne
No question he was dealt some bad hands, but Bledsoe had some good years and look what Arians did with Holcomb..
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Nolan, Armstrong and O'Brien were last week, and McCoy on Sunday I believe. No idea how long any of the interviews lasted.
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I was just listening to ESPN New York and the Brian Kelly to Philly scenario is starting to gain some momentum.Not that I have heard we are looking at B.Kelly just found it interesting.
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Wonder why why we are not talking to Mike McCoy ??
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Duh... Because EVERYBODY knows that Peyton Manning is the real OC in Denver. McCoy's only job is to stand on the sidelines with a headset on while holding a laminated playcard and nodding his head a lot.
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linkCLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns are interviewing former Arizona Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt again today in Cleveland, a league source told The Plain Dealer. The Browns also interviewed Whisenhunt, 50, last week in Arizona and really liked him. The fact that the Browns are interviewing him for a second time means they are probably getting serious about hiring him. The former special teams coach of the Browns in 1999 under Chris Palmer, Whisenhunt has gone 45-51 and 4-2 in the playoffs. He was fired by the Cardinals this season after going 5-11. He serving as their head coach since 2007. Whisenhunt took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in 2008, where they lost to the Steelers. He's also former offensive coordinator of the Steelers.
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I wouldnt mind Whisenhunt as our head coach. He was dealt a bad hand with his qbs. Lienart was one of the most overrated qbs to come out of college and Kolb cant stay healthy. He took a "washed up" Warner to the Superbowl. I think he could do a good job with Weeds. If he comes in I hope we keep Jauron as dc
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I wouldn't mind Whisenhunt either. I think Leinart was forced on him, so I don't hold that against him. As for Kolb, I don't know, but he has done some nice things with offends.
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Did Whisenhunt not have input on what QBs they acquired?
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Anymore than our guys had say in McCoy and Weeden?
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Good point, but the guy who pushed those agendas is now gone.
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I like his offense but I want no part of a return to the 3-4. Honestly, he isnt a bad candidate to be our HC but I just aint thrilled about it. I love Chud's brainpower. The guy is just a master at creating mismatches. I have my fingers crossed for Chud and anyone else well besides Zimmer is probably going to be disappointing to me.
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Sorry Whisenhunt is 50, that's 1.4 years over the average superbowl winning coach age, therefore he is washed up.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Apparently he made the call to take Lindley, who is awful. http://www.arizonasports.com/40/1535755/Whisenhunt-on-developing-young-QB-Lindleyhe Arizona Cardinals stayed true to their draft board this week, and watched it pay dividends with the players afforded to them. One draft pick that was a bit of head scratcher was the selection of San Diego State quarterback Ryan Lindley 185th overall. While Lindley boasts a strong frame and was a consistent presence on the field for the Aztecs, he struggled mightily with his accuracy. Still, when Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt saw Lindley still available in the sixth round, he trusted not only the draft board but also his gut instinct on the potential of the young signal caller. "This year [Lindley] lost his receivers," Whisenhunt told Arizona Sports 620's Doug & Wolf Tuesday. "He wasn't as productive this season, but he's been a productive college quarterback and he's a big guy that can move so when you come to that point in the draft and you see him on your board and he's sticking out and his measurable, his height, his size, his speed, his arm strength, they were all good." For Whisenhunt, the opportunity to draft and cultivate a quarterback with Lindley's skills, makeup and upside was too tempting a prospect to pass up. "Then you look at his production in that offense, it was good and then you think about the quarterback position in this league and having to try to develop young guys, that's what kind of came together and why we picked him where we did," Whisenhunt explained. Whisenhunt is interested in getting his first glimpse of Lindley in camp over the coming weeks and monitoring the growth of his young quarterback under the watchful eye of new quarterbacks coach John McNulty. "I am anxious to see him in here in a couple weeks in our minicamp and see where he is and see where he can progress through training camp," Whisenhunt said.
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I wouldnt mind Whisenhunt as our head coach. He was dealt a bad hand with his qbs. Lienart was one of the most overrated qbs to come out of college and Kolb cant stay healthy. He took a "washed up" Warner to the Superbowl. I think he could do a good job with Weeds. If he comes in I hope we keep Jauron as dc
Warner was not washed up, and I'd be more inclined to say a "washed up" Warner took Whisenhunt to the Super Bowl than the other way around.
Whisenhunt has been nothing without Warner.
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How dare he not develop the 185th pick in the draft in one year!
It should be noted that when Whisenhunt was given an offensive line that wasn't the worst in football, he won a lot of games for the Cardinals.
50 year old coaches who went to the Super Bowl as a head coach is hard to find. I also don't think he's married to the 3-4, since he has been strictly an offensive coordinator/ST coordinator for every team he has been with.
you had a good run Hank.
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His years/numbers in New York tend to disagree with you.
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I remember Whisenhunt drooling over Leinart and in no way did Matt have the skill set to run Whisenhunts offense.
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I'd love to hear managemnts thoughts on the candidates.
I'd like to hear the pros and cons of each. I know that aint happening
but itd be interesting.
I'd love to know their impressions of Chud in particular.
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I remember Whisenhunt drooling over Leinart and in no way did Matt have the skill set to run Whisenhunts offense.
When did he drool over Leinart? Didn't he start off 2007 by splitting time between Warner and Leinart?
Not saying I'm right, just what I remember.
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I guess if you're going for the flavor of the month club in the NCAA. But they aren't even the best NCAA candidates.
You weren't talking about the NCAA, you mentioned NFL Resumes, of which Kelly and Brian have none.
Exactly. The two NCAA guys in Both Kelly and Marrone were the two "flavor of the month club" variety. Makes for a good headline but neither have been proven to be able to adapt their systems to fit the talent they are given as it is in the NFL. In college, you recruit players to fit your system.
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That's odd because the Eagles are set to interview Lovie Smith. Actually today.
Yeah, because they didn't get the one "name" guy that was available (Chip) and then suddenly started talking to another guy who just played for a National Championship whos out of the country.
I guess it's somehow my fault you claimed they could never sell Lovie smith to their fan base on the same day they are set to interview him?
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I think the perception they're giving is they're going to make this a thorough process. Which after the Kelly debacle, I think we're doing the exact same thing actually.
How is it a thorough process if both Cleveland and Philly would of signed the FIRST GUY THEY INTERVIEWED had he been willing to sign?
I believe your confusion is with the past tense here. WAS is past tense. IS means present tense.
If you mean they were both focused on Kelly in the beginning, I think you're right. But since that time it's obvious they are going through the process by their actions.
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I'd be willing to bet we're better off. He was nothing more than a name with a very short resume'. But a lot of people around here were quick to jump on board!
But not you right? Well that's good, wouldn't want people to think you "have a horse in this race"
Because that's all that matters here on DTers, it's not about winning, it's about making sure your post was right 
The only horse I have in this race is someone who has shown they can use the talent given them and make the most of it at the NFL level. Someone who is not so rigid he refuses to adapt his sytem to fit the talent. I named three people and said that wasn't a complete list.
So which one is "my horse" again?
And BTW- I'm not the one who said that the Eagles didn't seem interested in Lovie Smith on the same day they were scheduled to interview him.
I didn't make that news Bud, I just reported it. No need to get your panties in a wad.
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His years/numbers in New York tend to disagree with you.
I won't argue he had a bad run in New York but I think that had more to do with his nagging thumb injury than being washed up.
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I'd be comfortable with Whisenhunt coaching here. He's got HC experience, has had some success there.
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I'm just saying, his record in Arizona before Whisenhunt got there, wasn't very good. And after Whisenhunt got there, he started to take off a little bit.
He had all the signs of being washed up until Whisenhunt. Either is a massive coincidence, or Whisenhunt's system and coaching ability put players in the right position to get everyone to be successful.
you had a good run Hank.
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His years/numbers in New York tend to disagree with you.
he's explained that a few times. he was running an offense that just didn't fit his strengths. he is a precision timing guy (from Arena and Martz) and did a bad job adjusting to a route-read offense (by his own accord).
that said, his numbers were still better than Eli's.
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Marrone makes a good headline?
25-25 at Syracuse = SB for NFL!!!
He very well could be an excellent NFL HC and a great hire, but a good headline he does not make.
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I wouldnt mind Whisenhunt as our head coach. He was dealt a bad hand with his qbs. Lienart was one of the most overrated qbs to come out of college and Kolb cant stay healthy. He took a "washed up" Warner to the Superbowl. I think he could do a good job with Weeds. If he comes in I hope we keep Jauron as dc
Warner was not washed up, and I'd be more inclined to say a "washed up" Warner took Whisenhunt to the Super Bowl than the other way around.
Whisenhunt has been nothing without Warner.
He was alright with a healthy Kolb this year (4-0 or 5-0 I forget) and his defense had been playing amazing.
I would take Whisenhunt over what we have had since coming back, he's an offensive guy, he's got fire, he's been to a super bowl. Give him a QB and his offensive system works... He was my first choice when I saw we were interviewing, and granted I am not an expert, but I think this could turn out well.
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25-25 at Syracuse = SB for NFL!!!
He very well could be an excellent NFL HC and a great hire, but a good headline he does not make.
I don't think so either. At 25-25 I was like... WTH!!??
But it seems OSU thinks Philly was going after both of them because they couldn't sell proven HC's like Lovie Smith to their fan base and that Marrone was somehow a better sell, I didn't argue that point with him.
It's the only one I didn't though.
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