I wouldn't think twice about drafting this kid (not with our 1st or 3rd.....but with our 4th - maybe).
We could use him as our PR/KR and a 3rd-4th corner. Maybe that's too high for that role, but I'm not a GM. If you could get an electrifying returner that can cover the slot guy and/or only be brought in during dime situations....what's that worth? Aren't those type of guys drafted in the 4th round and beyond?
The weed stuff doesn't really worry me all that much. I assume most college players are acting like most of the normal college students. Sure, it doesn't look good that he keep smoking after getting caught the first time, but the slate kinda gets wiped clean after college (the penalty will be lowering his draft stock). But a team will take him in the draft, "fur sure" (Uncle Blazer quote).
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
I think he'd be a perfect RDE fit for us....let Parker go in FA and ease Moore in behind Rucker on obvious passing downs early. I thinkn he can be a 3 down DE with time and he can do some JPP stuff standing up if you want to do so down the road, with Winn (or another pass rush specialist we get in time) at DE on passing downs. That's part of his high value...he can rush the passer, is athletic enough to be considered an OLB, he can tackle and play the run well (he's the leading tackler at A&M...at DE, think about that)...he's the complete package. I think though that he'll be the 1st DE on many boards when all is said and done and he might be out of our reach if we win 2-3 more games
The Browns already have enough smurf sized CB's. They need CB's that have size and long arms to negate taller physical WR's. knowing Heckert he will draft another FB or a volleyball player that happened to be a part time football player in the 4th rd. Dri Archer would be have logical selection if you are gonna go small and dynamic
Quote: Because there is literally no offensive talent in the top 10 picks....so unless we trade down, I think we go defense...
I think that trading back is an absolute possibility but I don't agree that there is no talent on the offensive side of the ball to be had in the top 10 picks. Skill positions, probably not, but the top selection could be a left tackle.
It'll be interesting to see what the new group decide to do in the draft though. I think another corner opposite Haden or the best LB on the chart is probably who they'll take.
Quote: Football scouts quickly will tell you that the Southeastern Conference is a hotbed for NFL talent. The SEC has produced at least one first-round selection in 65 consecutive drafts and led all conferences with nine first-round picks in 2012. When I was working as a scout with the Seattle Seahawks and Carolina Panthers, we routinely would watch top players from other conferences match up against SEC competition to see if they were truly NFL-caliber.
Given the superior depth and talent in the SEC, every NFL general manager and scout will pay close attention to the Alabama-Georgia matchup in the SEC championship game to see the future stars of tomorrow on display. Here are the top 10 players who will be on the Georgia Dome turf Saturday in Atlanta (4 p.m. ET, CBS):
(*Denotes underclassmen)
1. Jarvis Jones*, Georgia, OLB: One of the most explosive pass rushers in college football. Jones shows cat-like quickness off the ball and is a freakish athlete with the speed and burst to run down quarterbacks from the backside. With few blockers possessing the footwork and lateral quickness to rival his movement skills, Jones is a difference maker with all of the tools that scouts covet in elite pass rushers.
2. Chance Warmack, Alabama, G: Interior blockers typically aren't valued at a premium, but Warmack is a special player at the position. At 6-foot-3 and 320 pounds, he is a mammoth blocker with the size and strength to move defenders off the ball. Although his athleticism will hinder his capacity to block effectively on the move, Warmack's exceptional ability to generate a push at the point of attack against big defenders makes him a very desirable prospect for teams looking to upgrade their respective running games.
3. Dee Milliner*, Alabama, CB: The SEC routinely produces the top cornerbacks in college football, and Milliner is the next one to carry the torch. He is a polished cover corner with the speed, quickness and agility to blanket elite receivers on the perimeter. Milliner also displays the toughness and physicality to be an effective player against the run, which makes him the kind of defender that all defensive coordinators covet as a No. 1 corner.
4. Alec Ogletree*, Georgia, LB: Wow! That's the typically expression used by scouts to describe the exceptional athleticism and skills of Ogletree. He is a natural sideline-to-sideline defender with the speed and burst to make plays all over the field. From crashing off the edges as a rusher to dropping into intermediate zones in pass coverage, Ogletree is an ideal weakside linebacker prospect with the tools to shine at the next level.
5. D.J. Fluker*, Alabama, OT: Recent history has shown the value of right tackles increasing in the minds of evaluators around the league. Teams are more inclined to take a right tackle early in the draft to solidify both edges in the passing game. Fluker is a dominant right tackle prospect with the size, strength and footwork to excel on the right side as a pro. He moves defenders off the ball in the running game, while also displaying the balance and body control to anchor against rushers off the edge.
6. Aaron Murray*, Georgia, QB: Playing quarterback in the NFL is all about making sound decisions under duress, and few college quarterback do it better than Murray. The 6-1, 210-pound junior has enjoyed a stellar 2012 campaign, while displaying outstanding accuracy, ball placement and touch. Although he doesn't display elite arm strength, Murray's superb anticipation and timing allows him to routinely pick apart opponents with pinpoint throws. Evaluators are closely monitoring Murray's play to see if he has the goods to develop into an elite playmaker at the next level.
7. Jonathan Jenkins, Georgia, DT: The strength of the Bulldogs' defense is right down the middle with Jenkins entrenched at defensive tackle. The 6-foot-3, 358-pound senior is a gargantuan presence at the point of attack. Opponents are unable to move him off the spot, and his ability to occupy multiple players creates opportunities for the Bulldogs' linebackers to make plays at the line of scrimmage. With nose tackles increasingly popular in the NFL due to the proliferation of 3-4 defenses, Jenkins is on the rise on draft boards across the league.
8. Bacarri Rambo, Georgia, S: The presence of a playmaking safety is essential to fielding a dominant defense at every level of football. Rambo is undoubtedly one of the best ball hawks in college football with 16 career interceptions. He is naturally instinctive player in the middle of the field with a keen sense of timing and anticipation. Although he is most comfortable playing with vision in zone, Rambo possesses the athleticism to be effective in matchups against tight ends and slot receivers. Given his all around skills and playmaking ability, Rambo is one of the most intriguing prospects in the 2013 draft class.
9. Shawn Williams, Georgia, S: It is hard to find a hard-hitting safety with ball skills and awareness, but Williams appears to have it all. He excels at drilling runners in the hole and few safeties are better tacklers. Against the pass, he shows instincts and awareness floating in the middle and his four career interceptions reflect his ability to make plays. Although his speed could emerge as a concern, the combination of size, strength and skills that Williams brings to the table will make him a solid pick in the 2013 draft.
10. Barrett Jones, Alabama, C: The most versatile and productive offensive lineman in college football can solidify his reputation with a strong performance against the Bulldogs. Jones has significant starts at multiple positions (10 starts at left tackle, 25 starts at right guard and 11 games at center), and that versatility will make him invaluable in the minds of evaluators when the draft draws closer. With a strong performance against the Bulldogs' imposing defensive line, Jones could solidify his status as a top prospect.
Others to watch: A.J. McCarron, Alabama, QB; Eddie Lacy, Alabama, RB; Jesse Williams, Alabama, NT; Tavarres King, Georgia, WR
Quote: I know it's crazy, but it's possible that Chance Warmack goes in the top ten as well.
I would draft Cooper before Warmack...and I like both. Cooper would be a better fit for us too. That said, no way I'd draft any of the 2 as our top pick, unless we trade down and get another Top 50 pick or two doing so. Not sure I see the need to draft ANY G with a top 10 pick...I think we are set there with Lauvao, Pinky, Greco and Miller...unless Pinkston can't continue his career or isn't the same coming back I really don't see the need at G....like, AT ALL. We need a 3rd OT more than we need another rook G....we're incredibly lucky that neither Thomas nor Schwartz have missed a snap....our 3rd OT is Cousins. The drop off from Pinky to Greco was minimal....from Thomas/Schwartz to Cousins? I'd rather draft another OT...maybe one who can develop into a G too. I don't see OL as a big need for us, but I'd still put OT over OG on that need list...
All that said, I'm not sure we even have a top 10 pick this draft...if we win 6 games, having a high SOS % etc...
I want Moore as plan A, plan B are Milliner, Banks and Okafor with the last 2 as most probable options...Okafor would be a real nice pick and we could even get a 2nd rounder back trading back and still get him. How does Okafor in 1st, Vaccaro in 2nd and Wreh-Wilson in 3rd sound? or Okafro, Poyer, B.Rambo? RDE, CB and FS fixed for the long term...depth for the Offense the rest of the draft...and a punter please
8. Bacarri Rambo, Georgia, S: The presence of a playmaking safety is essential to fielding a dominant defense at every level of football. Rambo is undoubtedly one of the best ball hawks in college football with 16 career interceptions. He is naturally instinctive player in the middle of the field with a keen sense of timing and anticipation. Although he is most comfortable playing with vision in zone, Rambo possesses the athleticism to be effective in matchups against tight ends and slot receivers. Given his all around skills and playmaking ability, Rambo is one of the most intriguing prospects in the 2013 draft class.
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Assuming the Browns win another game which is very possible. They'll most likely be looking at a pick in the 8-12 range. My best guess of who will be gone:
Jarvis Jones (OLB) Star Lotulelei (DT) Luke Joeckel (OT) Damontre Moore (DE)
I think everyone else is up in the air...
Let's say a couple more of the bigger name DE's drop off the board (Werner, Montgomery and/or Mingo)...
If Te'o on the board, do you draft him? Move Jackson over? Do you buy the rumors of his lack of speed?
Let's say he is gone...do you go Milliner (CB) to go with Haden?
What about Keenan Allen? Imagine him with Josh Gordon...offense wins games now
hmmm
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As we win games and our draft positions moves the probable available players certainly change.
Middle of round one I think the best value will lie at Cb. Millner Ala or Banks Miss St.
DE is deep and we could be looking at a guy like Sam Montgomery LSU. But if Heckert is the guy in charge Cb is more likely as he clearly values CB over DE and has stated that he feels he can get a DE in the later rounds.
I could see us taking a guy like Mingo LSU and playing him at rush OLB. I would prefer Sean Porter Texas A&M in round 3. Also coming into play as we drop would be OG. How happy are we with our OG's? Chance Warmack Ala anybody?
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
Might as well get the draft forum going. Season over.
I'll be kind of bummed if we don't get a DE or LB in the first. They seem to be the best values in the top 10.
I agree, I love Jones out of Georgia, but he will be gone by the time we pick. We are probably looking at 6-8 in the first round.
I'm still a guy that wants the best player at that position. I wouldn't mind that big mauler Warmack out of Bama if he were available. I have no doubts he's going to be a future pro bowler.
The browns have got to come away with a playmaker at LB or DE. I also would not be opposed to another CB either, but they need to come away with one of these.
Look at my November mock in this thread, it's still the way to go
1) DE Moore 3) CB Wreh-Wilson
I have to admit that Teo at SLB would fill another huge need, but the value is simply bad for that position in our 4-3, JMJ doesn't cut it there, he either has to back up DQ or move to MLB and move DQ to WLB...a healthy Gocong would be very helpful to this unit
Prospects like Jamie Collins or Travis Long in the 4th would be good value for our SLB spot
I would go all defense in this draft and let the young Offense play together and add depth on the 3rd day (TE, OL, WR, RB) and try sign a slot WR in FA (Edelman? Amendola?)
Here's my Xmas mock (using cbs rankings):
1) DE Moore [2) WR Gordon] 3) CB Wreh-Wilson or FS B.Rambo (would also think about QB L.Jones here) 4) OLB J.Collins or OLB T.Long 5) RB Barner or TE Otten or WR Vernon 6) CB J.Adams or CB D.Hurst or DB Mathieu (will go earlier though) 7a) P Allen 7b) TE M.Rivera or QB C.Klein or G Foltz
What is everyone's opinion on QB Tajh Boyd of Clemson? He hasn't officially said he was entering the draft, but did fill out paperwork to gauge where he could be drafted.
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