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First of all, Why do people feel that Obama deserves another 4 years because "he didn't get a fair shake?" They claim it was a mess to begin with and he couldn't get it cleaned up in 4 years. I don't see how anyone even dares to mention that considering that when you elect a President, you elect them for 4 years, not 4 years and maybe another 4 years if you cannot fix anything. The extra 4 years is a gift if you do a good enough job. Though, I'm not sure Bush should have received the extra 4 years either, but look who he ran against in 2004. Though, I don't think Kerry got a fair shake when people criticized him over his Vietnam service served in Vietnam, especially considering Bush had political connections to keep him from going to the battlelines.
But back to Obama, why does he even deserve an extra 4 years because "he cannot clean up the mess given to him, especially considering he spent his first half of his 4 years doing anything but focusing on the mess? What was Obama's first plan of action? Fix the economy that was in a mess? Nope, he decided to run and go out and try to give the US universal healthcare which he even screwed up. If you are going to do Universal Healthcare, don't do it halfway. Don't keep the insurance companies in it by forcing everyone to go find a commercial insurance company and go buy a product from a private entity. That is not healthcare but just shuttling everyone into the health insurance company game.
Can anyone find me a reason to vote for Romney besides the fact that he is not Obama? Though, I'm going to go crazy if I hear another person claiming he is rich and out of touch with Americans as if Obama is. Which brings up Obama's attempts to "be in touch" with the average American, especially when they try to claim that they finally paid off their college debts. Of course, they don't mention is that Michelle attended Princeton and Harvard and Barack attended Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, which are not the average college that average American attends nor do they have the average cost of tuition but rather one of the most pricier options. Of course, it will take a while to pay that off.
But back to Romney, I think he's at least the best option, but that still isn't saying much.
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I've been hearing for years and years, as long as I can remember, people say we need someone in the white house who's been in the business world, who's run a budget, not only at the state level but in the private sector.
We now have a man running who has such experience.
Will he be better than Obama? My mother in-law would be better than Obama.
At the very least, Romney looked presidential in the debate, Obama simply looked lost. Obama obviously needs another vacation, a really long one.
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The economy tanked before Obama was elected, so Obama knew what he was getting into. If was wasn't up for the challenge(which he clearly wasn't) he should have forfeited the election.
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Obama has had 4 years to make an appreciable improvement in the economy, and he has failed. His policies stand no chance of working,and he has shown no ability to work across the aisle to get things done.
Romney wants to drill, drill, drill ...... which would increase our energy production dramatically, bring down prices, and increase employment. It's a win, win, win. He also wants to simplify the tax code, which I am all in favor of. Further, he has said that he will repeal Obamacare, and I am 100% for that, as I believe this to be a major cause of the unemployment problem. Employers are not hiring, and those who are, are hiring to replace full time hours with part time hours so that they don't have to pay this idiotic tax. If Obamacare stays in place, there will be no more retail, or lower end restaurant full time jobs. This will severely impact many people who work these jobs to support themselves. They will increasingly have to turn to government programs instead, because they just won't be able to find full time jobs. Further, Romney at least has a plab to cut the deficit. Obama's plan is to do things like double counting the "savings" from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I see nothing good on the horizon if we stay on the track we're on. We need to change immediately.
Now, do I think that Romney will be able to get all of these things done? Maybe not. However, I know that none of them will get done if Obama stays in office for another term.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Obama has had 4 years to make an appreciable improvement in the economy, and he has failed. His policies stand no chance of working,and he has shown no ability to work across the aisle to get things done.
Romney wants to drill, drill, drill ...... which would increase our energy production dramatically, bring down prices, and increase employment. It's a win, win, win. He also wants to simplify the tax code, which I am all in favor of. Further, he has said that he will repeal Obamacare, and I am 100% for that, as I believe this to be a major cause of the unemployment problem. Employers are not hiring, and those who are, are hiring to replace full time hours with part time hours so that they don't have to pay this idiotic tax. If Obamacare stays in place, there will be no more retail, or lower end restaurant full time jobs. This will severely impact many people who work these jobs to support themselves. They will increasingly have to turn to government programs instead, because they just won't be able to find full time jobs. Further, Romney at least has a plab to cut the deficit. Obama's plan is to do things like double counting the "savings" from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I see nothing good on the horizon if we stay on the track we're on. We need to change immediately.
Now, do I think that Romney will be able to get all of these things done? Maybe not. However, I know that none of them will get done if Obama stays in office for another term.
I have my doubts any campaign promise gets done. But I cannot stand the Democrats stance on gas/oil. Nor can I stand their "lets always tax when we need money so we can buy more things that we don't need." BUt the Republicans end up doing about the same for different methods.
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I dont understand the whole "Romney is wealthy and cant relate to Americans" argument.
Seems to me that applies to all politicians running for president. They are all wealthy and have no clue about the real world.
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They are all wealthy and have no clue about the real world.
 I'd love to see some sharp person who lived the American dream and worked his way into the position vs. being born into it or having manipulated his way up the ranks without ever having had to work for a living. Only a person like that would know what role the government should play in the lives of most Americans.
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I feel like this election needs a business man in power.
Our government has become too handout filled, too little enforced accountability, and the government has grown much too big.
Romney would scale it back, use a business model to get things into order (back into order?) and hopefully on a right path. The man and his family made their way, hopefully he could help us do the same in these trying times.
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What better place than here?
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They are all wealthy and have no clue about the real world.
I'd love to see some sharp person who lived the American dream and worked his way into the position vs. being born into it or having manipulated his way up the ranks without ever having had to work for a living. Only a person like that would know what role the government should play in the lives of most Americans.
Anybody smart enough and hard working enough to have done that would be too smart to even consider wanting to be President.
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Anybody smart enough and hard working enough to have done that would be too smart to even consider wanting to be President.
 No kidding!
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Tux, your frustrations are no different then mine and many others. I get the sense that we have a choice between dumb and dumber and I don't know which is which.
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They are all wealthy and have no clue about the real world.
I'd love to see some sharp person who lived the American dream and worked his way into the position vs. being born into it or having manipulated his way up the ranks without ever having had to work for a living. Only a person like that would know what role the government should play in the lives of most Americans.
Anybody smart enough and hard working enough to have done that would be too smart to even consider wanting to be President.
There it is,, The truth.
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They are all wealthy and have no clue about the real world.
I'd love to see some sharp person who lived the American dream and worked his way into the position vs. being born into it or having manipulated his way up the ranks without ever having had to work for a living. Only a person like that would know what role the government should play in the lives of most Americans.
Anybody smart enough and hard working enough to have done that would be too smart to even consider wanting to be President.
It's the only way they can avoid having Obama Care.
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i think those that think Romney the almighty businessman will rescue us from reality are in for a bit of the latter.
economic growth is NOT sustainable...fixed % growth = exponential = impossible, given limited resources. noone can return us to 80's America (or whatever economic "high point" you prefer). this unsustainability will continue to reveal itself, whether we stick our heads in the sand or not.
i read an interesting comment recently. problems have solutions, while predicaments have outcomes. and if you treat a predicament as a problem, you will not only fail to generate a solution, you will fail to manage the outcome. this is absolutely the situation we are in, economically, speaking. and neither candidate is interested in managing the outcome of the "growth" paradigm.
i'll vote for someone who falls outside the ridiculous interests and "ideas" these two support.
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I'm interested in some of the ideas I've read about from Jill Stein. Hell, even the socialist party guys, Alexander and Mendoza, are more genuine than what's running as none of the above are career politicians.
Politicians are puppets, y'all. Let's get Geppetto!
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