Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,151
K
Hall of Famer
OP Offline
Hall of Famer
K
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,151
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/school-...-174500262.html

..

School District Bans Father-Daughter Dances After Single Mom Complains

.

.



.
.By Lylah M. Alphonse, Senior Editor, Yahoo! Shine | Parenting – 3 hours ago.. .
.


Email





Print
....
.

A Rhode Island school district has banned father-daughter dances. Was it the right move, or just political correctness …In an effort to comply with state laws about gender discrimination, a Rhode Island school district has banned father-daughter dances and mother-son baseball games after a single mom complained that her daughter wasn't able to attend a dance.

Related: WATCH: Awesome Father-Daughter Wedding Dance Goes Viral

The mother filed a complaint with the Rhode Island branch of the American Civil Liberties Union last May, saying that her child felt excluded from the dance because she did not have a father figure to take her. The dance was a longstanding event run by a parent-teacher organization.

"I think when schools tell girls 'You love dances' and boys 'You love baseball games,' I think that is going too far," Rhode Island ACLU executive director Steven Brown told talk-radio station WPRO-FM. "That is the whole point of having laws and policies to say public schools should not be the business of really encouraging such blatant stereotypes about what girls like and what boys like."

Related: No 'Him' or 'Her': Preschool Fights Gender Bias

But some parents say the events were about tradition and family bonding, not gender roles.

"I'm outraged. My family looks forward to this," Lisa Shaljian Mancini told WBZ-TV. "I have three daughters in the school system, and they love this event."

One father -- who also happens to be a Republican candidate for State Senate in Rhode Island -- calls the ban is "an assault on traditional family values."

"For generations, we've had mother-daughter, father-son events," Sean Gately told Fox News. He found out about the ban after an open house earlier this month at his son's school, and brought it to the attention of the local media this week. "My wife was looking forward to taking our son to the annual mother-son event."

Though the complaint was filed with the ALCU in May and the school district resolved it in August, Gately has made the issue part of his election campaign. "I do believe that once this happens in Cranston, the ACLU will pursue every other school district in Rhode Island," he told Fox News.

In a statement released on Tuesday, the ALCU's Brown called the controversy "old news."

"The school district recognized that in the 21st century, public schools have no business fostering the notion that girls prefer to go to formal dances while boys prefer baseball games," the statement read. "PTOs remain free to hold family dances and other events, but the time has long since passed for public school resources to encourage stereotyping from the days of Ozzie and Harriet. Not every girl today is interested in growing up to be Cinderella -- not even in Cranston."

A message left for Brown by Yahoo! Shine was not immediately returned on Wednesday.

Title IX -- the federal law against sex discrimination in schools -- has exceptions for gender-specific parent-child events, but Rhode Island's gender discrimination law does not. Over the summer, the school district's lawyer decided that the dance and baseball game needed to be "open to family and students of both genders" in order to comply with state law.

"I acknowledge that many of these events have long traditions and for many parents, these types of gender-based events are not an issue," school Superintendent Judith A. Lundsten wrote in a letter sent to partner organizations in August. "However, this is a public school system and under no circumstances should we be isolating any child from full participation in school activities and events based on gender. Please be all-inclusive when planning your events."

"We're going to follow the law," Lundsten told WBZ-TV. "I think that, as a community, we'll figure out if we need to move forward and have the law changed."

Cranston Mayor Allan Fung said that he thinks the ban is a result of a "too limited, too narrow read" of Title IX and Rhode Island state law.

"That is what is most frustrating about the entire scenario right now," Cranston Mayor Allan Fung told WBZ-TV in Boston. "Because of one complaint, many children, many sons, many daughters might not have those memories that we all cherish growing up."

The ban only affects gender-specific events held at school. An all-inclusive "parent-child dance," for example, would not be a problem, School Committee member Janice Ruggieri told the Associated Press.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And another parentingable moment goes down the drain.

Is it a bummer if your child doesnt have a father figure to attend the dance? Sure...but maybe theres a grandfather, maybe the mother can go...There are plenty of places in the country where a father daughter dance can be amended to fit the situation.

Or...How about, adversity is something to be dealt with. Is it a bummer of a day? Yes...is it the end of her existence? No....

I've seen plenty of events where the girl goes with a friends father too, and they both go with one father...

I think its a shame that there can be 2...2!!!!!!!!!! traditions ruined by one single mother. Absolutely pathetic in my opinion. This whole punishing the majority to fit the needs of a small majority is a shame...Now, families that have attended this event for years upon years no longer can, because of the mother of one girl.

Imagine how that girl feels knowing that now...not only can she not go to this event...that none of her friends or classmates can go because of her mother. Great job mom.


"It has to start somewhere
It has to start somehow
What better place than here?
What better time than now?"
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,351
Likes: 449
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,351
Likes: 449
I bet that girl will be popular with her peers.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,831
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,831
This is so dumb. I guarantee you if the mom took the daughter to the dance no one would have cared. This is just dumb.


[Linked Image from i190.photobucket.com]
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
Quote:

The ban only affects gender-specific events held at school. An all-inclusive "parent-child dance," for example, would not be a problem, School Committee member Janice Ruggieri told the Associated Press.




No kid wants to go to a dance with their parents..

But a Father-Daughter dance? That's adorable.


Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Quote:

This is so dumb. I guarantee you if the mom took the daughter to the dance no one would have cared. This is just dumb.




She might have even met a single dad.


#GMSTRONG
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,276
K
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
K
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,276
I find it strange that the reason the dances have been canceled isnt because the girl was excluded.

According to the ACLU: "That is the whole point of having laws and policies to say public schools should not be the business of really encouraging such blatant stereotypes about what girls like and what boys like."

The banning is because you cant host dances for girls because that is apparently a stereotype. It has nothing to do with the original complaint by the mother of exclusion due to being a single mothered family.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,746
Likes: 299
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,746
Likes: 299
Quote:

This is so dumb. I guarantee you if the mom took the daughter to the dance no one would have cared. This is just dumb.




No one other than maybe the daughter. I went to a Father Daughter Dance this year and some of the kids were their with uncles and grandfathers, One was there with her mom.


#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Likes: 280
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Likes: 280
I saw this... it's freaking pathetic. This woman should be smacked.


yebat' Putin
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,688
Likes: 266
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,688
Likes: 266
Quote:

I find it strange that the reason the dances have been canceled isnt because the girl was excluded.

According to the ACLU: "That is the whole point of having laws and policies to say public schools should not be the business of really encouraging such blatant stereotypes about what girls like and what boys like."

The banning is because you cant host dances for girls because that is apparently a stereotype. It has nothing to do with the original complaint by the mother of exclusion due to being a single mothered family.




When I was in high school we had Father-daughter dances and Mother-son dances. I cherish those memories. My friends, our Moms and with no girls from class around none of us felt self conscious about getting out on the dance floor and looking stupid.


Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
While the complaint is dumb, so are parent-child dances.




Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,818
Likes: 515
A
Legend
Offline
Legend
A
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,818
Likes: 515
Quote:

While the complaint is dumb, so are parent-child dances.








I wouldn't say they're dumb. I don't like them. But my daughter has 2 pictures on her bedroom door. Both of them are she and I at..........the last 2 years father daughter dance.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,456
N
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
N
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,456
Quote:

Quote:

While the complaint is dumb, so are parent-child dances.








I wouldn't say they're dumb. I don't like them. But my daughter has 2 pictures on her bedroom door. Both of them are she and I at..........the last 2 years father daughter dance.




I agree my daughters have pics for back in the day. I never went to one with my Mom. Now in hindsight it would have been fun, but they shouldn't stop them because I couldnt go.
Should they stop graduation ceremonies because you cant graduate?


If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,688
Likes: 266
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,688
Likes: 266
Quote:

While the complaint is dumb, so are parent-child dances.






Well I completely disagree that these dances are dumb. Perhaps you don't like them but my friends and I always enjoyed them and I know that they meant a lot to my Mom. And now that she has passed I am very thankful for those memories.


Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 683
S
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
S
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 683
It's not just the dances this happens too. My daughter was not able to go on a class trip to 'Medieval Times" a couple years back because not all the families payed for the trip. It was an all or nothing deal. Broke her heart, her sister went the year before and she was really looking forward to it.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,439
Likes: 16
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,439
Likes: 16
.. " I am very thankful for those memories... "

You can't have them if all can't have them

DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... IF MY KID CANT NO ONE CAN!...Mom Ruins School Father/Daughter Dance

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5