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Check out Philly's DE roster right now. Brandon Graham (who I loved as a 3-4 OLB coming out of college) might be on the chopping block:

93 Jason Babin DE 32 6-3 267 9 Western Michigan
58 Trent Cole DE 29 6-3 270 8 Cincinnati
75 Vinny Curry DE 24 6-3 266 R Marshall

78 Tevita Finau DE 26 6-4 283 R Utah
-- Maurice Fountain DE 29 6-4 270 1 Clemson
54 Brandon Graham DE 24 6-2 268 3 Michigan
76 Phillip Hunt DE 26 6-0 248 2 Houston
55 Darryl Tapp DE 27 6-1 270 7 Virginia Tech
61 Monte Taylor DE 23 6-5 266 R Cincinnati
74 Frank Trotter DE 22 6-2 275 R Memphis

Who are you looking at that might get cut from another team's strength-of-depth position?

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Why do you think he's on the block?


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should be renamed: possible defensive end cuts from one team.


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should be renamed: possible defensive end cuts from one team.




or lazy posters want one person to do all the work for them


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well, the other 4 guys are locks, and their first round pick can play DT or DE. They could keep 5 DEs + Cox but maybe not. He hasn't produced how they thought he would to this point.

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should be renamed: possible defensive end cuts from one team.




I didn't want to restrict the thread to just this single instance, but thought it to be a noteworthy player. Might make sense to put other cases here as well.

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29 Tashard Choice RB 27 5-10 210 5 Georgia Tech
35 Chris Douglas RB 23 5-9 212 R Missouri State
22 Fred Jackson RB 31 6-1 215 6 Coe
28 C.J. Spiller RB 24 5-11 200 3 Clemson

20 Johnny White RB 24 5-10 202 2 North Carolina

I remember a bunch of guys on here excited about Johnny White last year. He's stuck behind some big names, and we're woefully thin at RB IMO.

Speaking of RBs: (Miami)

22 Reggie Bush RB 27 6-0 203 7 USC
46 Jonas Gray RB 22 5-9 225 R Notre Dame

41 Jorvorskie Lane RB 25 5-11 258 R Texas A&M
38 Richard Medlin RB 25 5-11 200 R Fayetteville State
35 Jerome Messam RB 27 6-4 250 R Graceland
44 Lamar Miller RB 21 5-10 218 R Miami (Fla.)
23 Steve Slaton RB 26 5-9 208 5 West Virginia

34 Marcus Thigpen RB 26 5-9 195 1 Indiana
33 Daniel Thomas RB 24 6-1 233 2 Kansas State

At least one talented RB will be available from this group. Interesting to see massive Jovorskie Lane catch on with a team.

New Orleans Saints:

36 Joe Banyard RB 23 5-11 213 R Texas-El Paso
39 Travaris Cadet RB 23 6-1 210 R Appalachian State
28 Mark Ingram RB 22 5-9 215 2 Alabama
29 Chris Ivory RB 24 6-0 222 3 Tiffin University
43 Darren Sproles RB 29 5-6 190 8 Kansas State
23 Pierre Thomas RB 27 5-11 215 6 Illinois


Looks like either Ivory or Thomas could be cut.

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Green Bay Packers Pre-Training Camp Grades: WR http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2012/7/11/3152391/green-bay-packers-training-camp-wide-receiver


Starters.


We move on to another skill position on offense with today's highly un-scientific pre-camp grades. After examining the quarterbacks and running backs, today's look is at the Wide Receivers.

These expressions of confidence have everything to do with the players in their current roles. We're not expecting a practice squad guy to make the roster, so don't judge him as if he were a starter; instead, can he be an effective body in camp or help fill in for a player who's a little banged up?

Starters: Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson

Backups: Randall Cobb, James Jones

Depth: Donald Driver, Tori Gurley, Diondre Borel

End of the bench/Practice Squad candidates: Jarrett Boykin, Curenski Gilleylen, Dale Moss, Shaky Smithson



Confidence in starters - Very high: Jennings and Nelson were a great 1-2 punch last year. Jennings puts the team on his back, doo, and is one of the best route runners in the league, a master of the slant route and yards after the catch. Nelson is a top deep threat, with deceptive speed to go along with his height and hands. The two combined for 2,212 yards and 24 touchdowns last year. If that's not a top-5 starting pair, I don't know what is.

Confidence in backups - Very high: Cobb showed flashes of great talent out of the slot last year, and many are viewing him as a top breakout candidate in 2012. Jones quietly put together a very good season last year as a 3rd wideout, setting career highs in touchdowns (7) and yards per catch (16.7). He would probably be a solid #2 receiver on another team, and I'm genuinely surprised that a team like the Browns did not make an effort to trade for him this off-season.

Confidence in depth - Very high: Driver, while aging, can still contribute on offense, especially on tough routes over the middle. Gurley and Borel have been licking their chops for a shot at the active roster since last season, when they turned down offers from other teams to stay on the Packers' practice squad. I think it's fair to say that either one would be no worse than a 4th wideout on 20 of the other teams in the league.

Confidence in youngsters - Above average: Moss comes in with high praise for his physical ability and may be this year's Gurley - a tall, fast specimen who just needs a little seasoning to attract some attention from other teams. Smithson showed some promise on special teams in camp last year, and could return for another round on the practice squad. The others are unknowns, but Borel impressed in camp last season out of nowhere as well.

Final grade - A: No other team can match the depth of this corps of receivers, and every one who could be on the roster will have experienced multiple training camps catching balls from Aaron Rodgers. While the group may not have a single target who commands all the attention on every play like a Calvin Johnson, their abilities complement each other and their sheer numbers ensure that no defense can cover all of them when they're playing at their best.

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Ive read that they signed 2 WRs to league minimum so other teams wouldnt take them off of the Packers Practice squad.

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yeah, i remember seeing that on here... think it was Gurley and Shakey Smithson.

As far as wideouts, there may actually be a Ram that is cut that could make our team

84 Danario Alexander WR 23 6-5 217 3 Missouri
16 Danny Amendola WR 26 5-11 188 4 Texas Tech

15 Michael Campbell WR 22 6-2 205 1 Temple
-- John Chiles WR 23 6-2 210 R Texas
15 Dominique Curry WR 24 6-2 223 2 California (PA)
11 Brandon Gibson WR 24 6-0 205 4 Washington State
13 Chris Givens WR 22 6-0 198 R Wake Forest

14 Nick Johnson WR 22 5-11 187 R Henderson State
17 Nick Miller WR 25 5-9 180 3 Southern Utah
18 Austin Pettis WR 24 6-3 207 2 Boise State
83 Brian Quick WR 23 6-3 220 R Appalachian State
87 Greg Salas WR 23 6-1 209 2 Hawaii
12 Steve Smith WR 27 5-11 195 6 USC


Alexander is the best of the bunch, Amendola is a good slot guy, Givens and Quick are both second-round picks, so there's 4 spots right there. Then, they still have Pettis, Salas, Steve Smith, and Brandon Gibson to find a spot for.

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White will beat out Choice...Slaton and Choice are "washed up" by now and won't be better than what we have behind TR...best bet is NO, but I think they kept all 4 last season too

At WR...I don't see how we add from the outside as we still have to weed out our own crap: Little, Gordon, Cribbs, Benjamin should be safe that leaves Massa and Norwood for 5th spot...even if we keep 6...whoever we bring in has to be better than those 2 and while there will be more talented guys available for sure, I don't see anyone who could make up on them in "system experience"

I'd look hard at teams with a DT surplus though as I think that's where we're going to add a vet, as neither Hughes, Winn or Paxson are ready and/or good enough to start and I don't think we'll see Taylor at all this season


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I'd look hard at teams with a DT surplus though




I tried... I couldn't find one.

Tommie Harris is still a free agent, he's still only 29.

Luis Castillo was just released yesterday.

Aubrayo Franklin, who was a prized free-agent target just a couple years a go, is still teamless.

Igor Olshansky and Marcus Thomas are also both available.

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Aubrayo Franklin, who was a prized free-agent target just a couple years a go, is still teamless.




i looked before but couldn't get his story. is he hurt and unable to play? or does he think he's worth far more than he is now?

those are the only things that make sense because even though his play slipped the last couple of years there is always a coach willing to put him in as veteran depth and hope they strike gold with him returning to his old playing days for a little while.


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Well, so much for that...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/818482...ubrayo-franklin

Aubrayo Franklin, Chargers agree

SAN DIEGO -- The San Diego Chargers have agreed on a one-year contract with free-agent defensive tackle Aubrayo Franklin.

The team announced the deal on Friday.

Franklin, a fifth-round pick by the Ravens in 2003, has played with Baltimore, the San Francisco 49ers and New Orleans Saints.

The 6-foot-1, 317-pound Franklin started nine games for the Saints last season and recorded 17 tackles. He has 204 career tackles.

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I'd look hard at teams with a DT surplus though as I think that's where we're going to add a vet, as neither Hughes, Winn or Paxson are ready and/or good enough to start and I don't think we'll see Taylor at all this season




Unless Big Phil is put on the IR, then I don't see another roster spot open at DT.

Paxson and the Rookies will have to hold the fort down until we get Taylor back. The Rookies aren't going nowhere and will be thrust into action and they will be learning as they go, not unlike Sheard and Taylor did last season. It's just the nature of the game today.

All indications are that Taylor will be available to us at some point next season and he will most likely be put on the PUP list, so that once he is activated to the roster, then someone will have to be dropped (not necessarily from the DT spot either).


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