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Pete Prisco, CBSSports.com Senior Writer - Round 1
No. 1: Colts select: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford Grade
This is the easiest pick of the night. They get a franchise passer who just might be the next Peyton Manning. A

No. 2: Redskins select: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor Grade
They made the big move up to get him and it's the right move for a quarterback-starved franchise. It was a big move up. A

No. 3: Browns select: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama Grade
Why, Browns? Yes, he's a good player, but backs don't decide Super Bowls anymore. And you gave up picks? C

No. 4: Vikings select: Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California Grade
Great move by Vikings. They get the best left tackle, one of the cleanest players in the draft, and get extra picks to trade down. Nice move, Minny. A+

No. 5: Jaguars select: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State Grade
I love the aggressive move up. The passing game has been horrible since Jimmy Smith retired. Now they have a real No. 1. A

No. 6: Cowboys select: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU Grade
The Cowboys made an aggressive move to get a shutdown corner, the best in this draft. I love the move. Claiborne and Carr on the corners is a nasty combo. Giving up the second-round pick is steep. B+

No. 7: Buccaneers select: Mark Barron, SS, Alabama Grade
This is high for a safety, but this is a huge need for the Bucs. Their safeties were horrible last year. B

No. 8: Dolphins select: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M Grade
They have to get a franchise passer. Is this the guy? We'll find out. But he has the tools. B

No. 9: Panthers select: Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College Grade
I love this kid as a player, but didn't the Panthers have other needs? What about corner? Even so, I like it. B

No. 10: Bills select: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina Grade
This pick is perplexing. I like the player, but you can tell the Bills are trying to amp up that defense. Why not a tackle? C

No. 11: Chiefs select: Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis Grade
He's a big wide body for the middle of the KC defense, but he has to start making plays. He looks the part, but where are the numbers? C

No. 12: Eagles select: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State Grade
The Eagles needed help inside for their defense, so the move up makes sense. Cox is a nice pickup for the Eagles, it cost them two picks. Solid. B-

No. 13: Cardinals select: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame Grade
I am not a big fan of Floyd. He doesn't run by anybody, but the good news is Larry Fitzgerald does. Fitzgerald, Floyd and Andre Roberts and Early Doucet are a nice group. Still don't like it. C

No. 14: Rams select: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU Grade
They trade down and add picks and end up with a top-level tackle. Yes, he's raw. But he is perfect for Jeff Fisher's teams. B

No. 15: Seahawks select: Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia Grade
That is such a Pete Carroll pick. He's always loved speedy ends dating back to USC. Irvin is explosive at times, but he was inconsistent. Ingram was a better choice. C

No. 16: Jets select: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina Grade
I don't like this pick at all. Coples didn't play at all last year. He doesn't really fit in their defense. Why not Ingram? C-

No. 17: Bengals select: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama Grade
They have questions about Leon Hall coming off an injury, so I like this pick. He was once considered a potential top-10 pick. I like it. A

No. 18: Chargers select: Melvin Ingram, OLB, South Carolina Grade
Best pick of the first round. This kid will a pass-rush star in that defense. Teams that passed on this kid will regret it. A+

No. 19: Bears select: Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State Grade
He is a good football player, but he will have to play with his hand down in this defense. He has done that before, but some saw him as an outside rush linebacker. B

No. 20: Titans select: Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor Grade
They need a young weapon for Jake Locker. I love Wright. This will pay off big. B+

No. 21: Patriots select: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse Grade
Best pick of the first round. This kid will be a pass-rush star in that defense. Teams that passed on this kid will regret it. A+

No. 22: Browns select: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State Grade
I don't like this pick at all. Is he really that much better than McCoy? Plus, he's 28. Weird. Are the Browns better? F

No. 23: Lions select: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa Grade
This is a good pick. They need to replace Jeff Backus. This kid fell and they landed a need pick. A

No. 24: Steelers select: David DeCastro, OG, Stanford Grade
Think Alan Faneca. Kevin Colbert knows how to draft good football players. He's tough. Nasty. He fits. Love it. A

No. 25: Patriots select: Dont´a Hightower, ILB, Alabama Grade
They traded back up to get this guy, but where does he play? Outside rusher? Inside? Not sure about this one. C

No. 26: Texans select: Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois Grade
When I watched him on tape, I didn't see explosive ability. Is he better than Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin? C+

No. 27: Bengals select: Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin Grade
Bengals trade down and get a feisty tough inside player. I like this move. Good move. B

No. 28: Packers select: Nick Perry, DE, Southern California Grade
I know they needed pass rush help, but Perry looked a little soft at times to me. Ted Thompson usually gets it right, but we'll see on this one. C

No. 29: Vikings select: Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame Grade
The Vikings were horrible on the back end of their defense. Teams killed that secondary. This is a good, solid pick. B

No. 30: 49ers select: A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois Grade
This kid can run. He is frail, but he can run. Randy Moss isn't the answer. This is a surprise, but scouts really liked this kid. He can run. B-

No. 31: Buccaneers select: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State Grade
This is a really good move to trade back into the first round to get a top-level runner. Martin might not be Richardson, but the price here is right. B+

No. 32: Giants select: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech Grade
Explosive runner who will add a speed dynamic to the Giants offense. This is a nice, sound move by Jerry Reese, a guy who makes a lot of them. B+

I agree! Sweet!

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No. 3: Browns select: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama Grade
Why, Browns? Yes, he's a good player, but backs don't decide Super Bowls anymore. And you gave up picks? D

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Fixed it

Tannehill gets a B, but Richardson gets a C...



Does Prisco have heat with Cle? Cause dropping the F bomb on #22, Like, I don't like it, but it's not HORRIBLE...

Prisco hating the draft makes me love it even more.

LOL, this guy is a straight hater.

We got the guy we wanted with our number 3. Had we not gotten him, there's a very good chance that someone else would have. The Bucs supposedly wanted him, they moved up to get Doug Martin BECAUSE we got Trent Richardson.

I think moving up was the right call. Vikes were content with Kalil or Claiborne. They auction the pick off between us and the Bucs. The Bucs want our guy, so we have to beat them. 4, 5, 7. Not that big of a deal.

As for Weeden, obviously the coaching staff (who knows the guy the best), doesn't have much faith in Colt McCoy running this show. While I wanted DiCastro, Reiff, or Glenn; i'm gonna keep to myself on this. Obviously they have faith in Weeden. I want to see how it plays out

Who gives a rat what these talking heads say.. We got the best, most ready to start player in the draft and he gives us a C because we were FORCED by Tampa to give up a free 4th, a 5th and 7th rd pick ? We won't even remember or CARE about those picks come December when TR is running OVER people. I thought we would go WR or RT at 22 but Weeden has things he was born with and Colt wasn't. Size and Arm strength. It was worth the gamble. Lots of WR's and OL left on the board guys...

Honestly, I thought both our grades were excessive. The TR one more so than Weeden. I would have given the TR pick an A if it wasn't for the 3 picks we had to give to get him.. and the Weeden one is a good pick, BUT it's a reach IMO. I understand they felt they had to pull the trigger at 22. Supposedly they know more than I do. I gave that a C

Draft grades are useless one year after the draft let alone one day.

Last year Prisco lambasted McCoy on a week in and week out basis ..... now he's McCoy's biggest fan.

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Lots of WR's and OL left on the board guys...

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That's what I'm thinking. Let's not panic folks.

Last year I was so disappointed in our draft, and after the season ended I was pretty happy with it. Sheard looks great, Taylor has loads of potential and he made some big plays, and Greg Little, after missing a year of football, did some nice things too.

Let's see what Heckert can come up with tomorrow. I'm hoping a RT and WR. Talk about a revamped offense for Chilly and Shurmur to work with.

We need one of those Tackles to fall the 37.

We need to somehow find a solid WR.

A OLB and a S would be nice also...

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We need one of those Tackles to fall the 37.

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We just need to get a starting right tackle, I don't care where the player is picked at.

Is there a better tackle, one on one, out there than Massie?? right now?

You say you want Massie right now, but tomorrow you will probably want someone else.

You mean 5 minutes from now... In a different thread...

Irving and Mayock both thought Weeden to be a good pick. Liked him alot.
Apparently whoever we had for 37 is still gonna be there!

If Trent is an All Pro Back and Weeden turns into the second coming of Kurt Warner and we win a Superbowl in a few years these grades are going to look pretty stupid.

The Browns should have drafted DeCastro or Zeitler at 22 and then take Weeden at 37.
you solved your problem at RB,but you didn't add that road grader to go in front of him.
would not be surprised though if Fleener is there at 37 and the Browns steal him.

I like the Richardson pick so while his statement is somewhat true, no one would turn down an elite back if they could get one

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The Browns should have drafted DeCastro or Zeitler at 22 and then take Weeden at 37.

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My problem is that someone could jump ahead of us and get him. How do we know Jacksonville wouldn't nab him (Blaine Gabbert didn't show much), Kansas City, Seattle, Tampa Bay (new coach.....).


Heckert says Weeden was number 13 on his board. If that's the case, then the pick makes sense. Our perception of what guys are worth isn't necessarily the same as other NFL GM's (as we all can see). So saying that Weeden would be there at 37 is complete speculation.

With all the trade ups in the first round of this draft, you can't just say, everyone behind us in the first round doesn't need a QB.

I hope we can get a tackle in the 2nd round of course, that or get ourselves a WR we want. Really depends on the depth of the position left on our board when we pick.

If we can get ourselves a starting RT and starting WR without trading up, we made some successful moves.

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My problem is that someone could jump ahead of us and get him. How do we know Jacksonville wouldn't nab him (Blaine Gabbert didn't show much), Kansas City, Seattle, Tampa Bay (new coach.....).

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Yeah I love how everybody assumes he was going to make it to 37.

Nobody thought Denver would trade into the 1st round for Tebow in 2010 did they.

That was an argument?

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No. 3: Browns select: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama Grade
Why, Browns? Yes, he's a good player, but backs don't decide Super Bowls anymore. And you gave up picks? C

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Did he say Browns and Superbowl in concurrent sentences?!? I think he's implying that the Browns will be in the Superbowl with this pick. Yes!

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No. 22: Browns select: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State Grade
I don't like this pick at all. Is he really that much better than McCoy? Plus, he's 28. Weird. Are the Browns better? F

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He says Weeden is better than McCoy, then he questions whether the Browns better with an upgrade at QB (or not)? Weird.

I love these pointless and worthless draft grades that come out every year.

Remember when we traded half of our draft for Shaun Rogers, Corey Williams and company? All the experts gave us an "A" for that draft and predicted us to be in the AFC Championship Game that next season. Yeah... look how that turned out.

Prisco rips on the TRich pick by saying we gave up picks and that backs don't decide Super Bowls anymore. RB's may not decide Super Bowls anymore but I'm pretty sure that football is still a team sport and in the AFC North you need the bruising type back to move the chains. As far as the issue with giving up picks... yes, because those guys that get picked in those rounds like Syndric Steptoe, Beau Bell, etc. really make a difference on a team.

Prisco is a tool. I just wasted 5 minutes....not sure why I opened this....

FWIW....we got all A's on ESPN's First Take. Skip, Mangini and a 3rd guys raved about both of our picks.

Some like and some don't. We'll know 1-3 years from now who was right.

Yep. This isn't a "standard" NFL draft.

We took the best overall player in the draft at 3 ..... but because he's a RB, some will try to devalue the pick. I think that he immediately helps both the run game, and will open up the passing game as well. Play action should be deadly now.

Then we took the best available QB at 22. Maybe not the ideal position for such a guy, but if the front office felt that McCoy was holding the team back, then they had to upgrade the position. Maybe they could have waited till 37 ... but what if someone else swooped in around 30? Then we'd be stuck with another year of Colt McCoy, and another year of poor offensive production. At least this way we have a chance at improving.

But, because we took 2 players that many talking heads felt son't have value at their draft positions, they suddenly become dumb picks. If Richardson runs for 1500 yards as a 15th overall pick, then he's a steal. What is he is he does the same as the 3rd overall? Weeden is a bit of a risky proposition, but the team knew that they simply could not go through next year with McCoy under Center and hope t win. They took a chance here .... but Heckert really, really seems to like the guy. I'm willing to give him a chance.

If in 3 years time we have the best RB and perhaps the 2nd best QB in our division, then this will have been a very successful draft. I don't know if Weeden can develop into that .... but I am far more confident in his ability to do so than I am in Colt McCoy's.

Slowly but surely, I'm warming up to the Weeden pick. Grabbing TR would have been a waste if we didn't have someone that could throw the ball over the 8-9 guys crowding the box.

Heckert NEEDS to get a steal at WR and RT this round. Come on, Heckert! Get another pick or two in this round.

People look too much at quantity over quality.

We gave up 4th, 5th, 7th round picks to move up.

How many guys in those rounds ever pan out? Not many.

Not too many targets?

Hill, Jeffrey, Randle, and Sanu are all quality players (although I am not a fan of Jeffrey).

I would not be upset if we took Randle with pick #37.

There are also some pretty good late round values in McNutt, Toon, Broyles, Criner, and Childs.