DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Seneca Wallace on competing to be starter

Or a camera. Just saying.

I have absolutely no problem with anything Seneca said.

He helped Colt any time he asked.

For what it's worth the coaches decided to run Colt this season and force him to show everyone if he was the man or not. He's not.

If we're down to being forced to choose between these two again next year, Seneca should absolutely be the starter.

You're assuming Colt asked. If this is the attitude he's projecting if I was Colt I wouldn't even bother.

Then that's Colt's fault. I'd seek out any and all people who could help that I possibly could if I were him. Lord knows he needs it.

Seems like seneca needs some help as well, doesn't it? All the knowledge of a 9 year vet, and he still can't put points on the board? A 9 year vet, and he sells out his coach? A 9 year vet backup, and he's playing games?

Come on. I hope in the deepest part of my heart he leads us to a victory tomorrow - today. But for all the supposed "knowledge" of the O he is supposed to have? I don't see it.

I just road-rashed my knees, elbows, and face as I went flying off the back of the Wallace Bandwagon.

I am grateful that Wallace was never considered an integral piece of the offensive puzzle for the Cleveland Browns. Even prior to this I was of the mind that you keep McCoy over Wallace for several reasons. Wallace just added another one.

Winning football consists of numerous factors, one of which is a winning attitude and mindset. These comments by Wallace are about as far away from that concept as one can get.

I will applaud Wallace for being honest. In today's world of talking yet saying nothing, I dig hearing what a player really thinks. In some way it's good to know how badly he wants to be the starting QB for the Cleveland Browns. It's too bad the concept of "team" has been lost on Senneca.

Seneca Wallace competing to be a starter? More like competing to be on dancing with the stars!

But in that case I think Colt has that one pocketed, just look at the dance moves he pulls when hes in the pocket! And the dance moves that the defense does after getting the sack! And the endzone dances they do when the other team gets a touchdown!

Oh good, another ROFL smiley fan.

wallace is 3rd string. a capable backup with no hope of starting.

5/16 70 yards and an int.

what's the qb rating on that bad boy?

There is a reason he's been a career backup, and back to back near picks with 5 min left in the game. Colt is Better.

The weather hasn't helped Wallace at all ..... but he has made some really bad decisions/throws.

Regardless, we need a starter ..... because we don't have one non this team.

IMO Wallace is better then Colt, but hes not our future starter.

I agree.

I don't see us winning more than 6-8 games in any season with either guy. I think that either could be a decent backup, but both have major weaknesses that can be exposed.

I wouldnt mind starting Colt again.. but if RG3 is there when we are up to draft.. WE GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

j/c

I don't know if I can honestly say that either Colt or Seneca are better.

That's frightening and probably means keep Colt as a backup.

Dont forget that Colt is in his 1st season in the WCO and also his 2nd season in the NFL. He has been getting killed in the backfield all year had no RB for most the year.
Wallace is in his 9th season under the same system hes been under almost all his career and looks the same or just a little better.
So if once you've been at your job for 9 years and they hire some new who preforms just as well as you in his 2nd year which would you keep?

If your board, Loyal, present your case. We've got nothing but the off-season to talk about now.

j/c

All I'll say is this: Seneca is a 9 year vet? He "knows" the west coast offense (on a side note, that's a stupid name really)? He "didn't help Colt unless Colt asked him"?

For what it's worth, for him to be here next year he'd ought to be paid about 1/5 of what Colt gets. I don't know the salary of either one of them, but I do know seneca isn't one lick better than Colt.

We've got a second year player, brand new offense, no off season learning, as compared to a 9 yr. vet that supposedly "knows" this offense - and the results are the same.

I go with the second year player, and I toss seneca to the wolves. He had his opportunity here. He had opportunities every place he's been.

If the Browns draft a qb, fine. Let the new guy and Colt battle it out. But please, let's get rid of seneca. 9 years of experience in this offense? It sure as hell hasn't shown.

I think it just goes to show that we don't have a QB.

We scored 218 points on the year, and 7 were the result of a punt return. This is our 2nd lowest total in points scored since the NFL went to the 16 game schedule, behind only year 2 of expansion. Yeah ... even our expansion team scored more than we did this year. That's pathetic.

We scored 13.6 PPG. Jacksonville, who many like to make fun of, averaged 15.2 PPG. Yeah, we sucked offensively. It may not be all the QB .... but it is a large part the QB. This is the time to try to fix this problem.

and what the heck was he doing yesterday when he backs out of the pocket w/ the ball high doing a studder/wobble and then throws the ball off his back foot... so irritating.

Yeah, I kept thinking he was having to do that because of the rush or something but no, no. I'm pretty sure he continued to do it even when the rush wasn't coming through the line. At times it looked like he was trying to complete some ridiculous fade away jumper like he was in the NBA or something.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/seneca_wallace_wants_chance_at.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Seneca Wallace intends to ask coach Pat Shurmur for a chance to compete for the starting QB job next season during his exit interview on Monday.

"I think we all know at the end of the day, we don't want to sit here and keep trying to grind with bringing in a young quarterback and having to go through those growing pains," said Wallace, who took the Steelers down to the wire in a 13-9 loss Sunday.

"You guys have been hard on us all season long, and what we need is to win and win now, and that's one of the biggest things is, whoever gives us that opportunity to do that, I think that should be the decision."

Wallace, under contract for two more seasons, made it clear that despite going 0-3 in his three starts, he had a chance to win each game and wants an opportunity to prove he can be the guy. The Browns have made it clear that they're undecided about Colt McCoy's future.

They also have the No. 4 pick in the draft and might consider taking Baylor's Robert Griffin III.

"At this point, going into next year will be my 10th year," Wallace said. "There are always people that doubt me and say you can't play this, you can't play quarterback, you're too short, this and that. You guys saw the last three games. All I want is a legit opportunity. That's all you can ask for at the end of the day."

He said he's often envisioned what he could with this offense given a full off-season and the starting job right from the beginning.

"There was a time [in 2008] when I got eight games under my belt in a row and each game there was a big improvement and we won some games (3-5) and it was during difficult times," he said. "We had a lot of injuries, things like that, guys in and out of the rotation. But we still moved the ball and scored points on teams.

"So I could imagine if I got the right opportunity and a good off-season and tried to push the guys in the right direction, what could happen."

Wallace said he's not sure why he doesn't receive consideration for the starting job when Browns President Mike Holmgren knows him so well from their Seattle days.

"When I came here, he made some things clear that he was going to bring in a Jake Delhomme and we were going to compete," said Wallace. "He lets the guy run the show and the call the shots on who's playing, and that's Pat. Whoever's out there, he's going to expect us to go out there and compete.

"But I think Mike is trying to make sure he doesn't step on people's toes ... I think he knows what I can do. That's one reason why I'm here. I can't worry about those decisions that are made on who's playing."

Wallace knows his performance Sunday and his stats don't scream starter. He completed only 16 of 41 attempts for 177 yards with one interception -- an ill-advised throw to Evan Moore picked off by Troy Polamalu -- and no touchdowns. He was handed the ball twice in good field position on fumble recoveries in the fourth quarter and couldn't muster a point.

What's more, he couldn't connect with top receivers Greg Little (0-for-5) and Mohamed Massaquoi (2-for-9) and threw behind a wide-open Massaquoi at the Steelers 19 in the fourth quarter.

But when the game was on the line with 1:46 remaining, he moved them from their 24 to the Steelers' 24, only to see it end on a Hail Mary pass that Little got a hand on in heavy traffic.

"For us to come out here and go toe-to-toe with a team that could end up in the Super Bowl [is good]," said Wallace. "The last two games that we played, the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers -- for all the stuff that we've been through this season, to go toe-to-toe with those two teams and come up a little short, the guys are still battling and I respect that."

Two of the best plays Wallace made were with his feet, a 27-yard scramble to the Steelers 4 in the second quarter and a 20-yarder in the third. Both led to field goals.

"I felt like I could've [scored on the first run]," said Wallace. "The guy must've tripped me up. My legs got tangled up. I saw the end zone and thought I had an opportunity, but came up a little short."

He acknowledged the interception was a bad decision. He was pressured on the play by linebacker Jason Worilds, who got past fullback Owen Marecic.

"Troy made a good play," said Wallace. "I probably shouldn't have thrown it. He made a hell of a play and came up with the interception."

Wallace did have success with receiver Josh Cribbs, who caught seven passes for 91 yards. But it wasn't enough.

"We're a young team," said Wallace. "No excuses. We didn't have an off-season and like I said before, and with a team like this and the things that happened this season, we can't afford to throw interceptions, we can't give them easy field goals, easy points, whatever the case may be. We're not at that point yet where we can dig ourselves out of the hole.

"But with a good off-season, we can work hard throughout that. We need to be able to beat the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers regardless of whatever else happens."

this could have went in the other Wallace thread...

and RG3 > Wallace..