Quote: More importantly, did anyone see it that saw the original and does this new version rate as well?
I watched the original online and this version is far better.
Rooney Mara was absolutely amazing in it.
(also a tidbit about her - for those that don't know: her sister is Kate Mara, they are both the granddaughters of Wellington Mara and the Rooney family)
Quote: Better in what way (other than not having to read subtitles)?
The beginning of the movie was a little slow.
But, overall I found the acting to be top notch. There were a few shocking scenes that I found in the movie that were not in the Swedish version (such as the cat ...). This version also has more time of Lisbeth and Mikael together. This version has their relationship meld more and they have better chemistry. But back to Mara. She was absolutely amazing in the movie. The Swedish version's Lisbeth was very well done. But Mara was just amazing in it.
There are also other differences. This movie had me glued to the seat while the Swedish version was more lacking to me. The story is essentially the same, but this version is ... darker I guess would be the word. At times (especially the latter half of the movie) it had a very "Silence of the Lambs" feel towards it.
I'm looking forward to it. Never read the books, but my wife loved them.
I never saw the original, foreign film, either. I don't have problems w/ foreign films at all, but if there's an adaptation directed by David Fincher w/ a Trent Reznor soundtrack, then I know I'll be skipping the foreign one . . .
Quote: I'm looking forward to it. Never read the books, but my wife loved them.
I never saw the original, foreign film, either. I don't have problems w/ foreign films at all, but if there's an adaptation directed by David Fincher w/ a Trent Reznor soundtrack, then I know I'll be skipping the foreign one . . .
The opening montage is AMAZING as well. It has an opening like a Bond Movie. But it is just amazing. Trent Reznor has a cover of Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" . Here is how it looked on the theater pretty much: (though it is only an 8 second clip): LINK
That opening was a total mindblow. Here is a sneak peak of it. But it isn't as good quality.
One is made by a Swedish director with (then) relately unknown actors with a small budget. The Swedish adaptation was well done given those limitations as I said above. I watched it, but there are some things that it lacked. This movie has a well known director, top notch acting and is well choreographed. Much of the "anger" directed at this movie seems (in my opinion) to be by fanboys who simply do not want a different adaptation to be made because they fear that it will diminish the Swedish adaptation.
It won't dimish it. In fact, this film will introduce the Millenium series to a wider audience than before. American audiences (in general) do not flock to view foreign films. This adaptation has already made more in a week than the Swedish version made during its entire time in American theaters.
Right now much ado is being made about a "depressing opening week" for the movie. That it was "beat out by the Chipmunks movie". That is merely because families have been shown to go to more family friendly shows around the Christmas holidays. An R rated movie with two graphic depictions of rape is not the sort of movie that one would take their 10 year olds to go and see. After the New Year, I suspect that this movie will improve in its viewing. It is currently not a wide release and is only showing in approximately 2700 theaters (from what I read on Rottentomatoes and other movie sites) while the other films are being shown in over 3700 theaters.
Quote: One is made by a Swedish director with (then) relately unknown actors with a small budget. The Swedish adaptation was well done given those limitations as I said above.
Absolutely loved the original trilogy. My girl and I watched it with the subtitles on in the first one, and I would say it actually made me pay closer attention and added to the film hearing the natural language, yet processing visually what's meant by the words. The original Lisbeth was spot-on, perfect for the role. She had that raw, sort-of bisexual androgyny about her where she could beat the crap out of you yet be soft, emotional, and sweet. Bloomqvist was solid, too. I've always had a thing for investigative journalism and don't think the field gets enough spotlight shone on it. So the plot, Lisbeth, and natural settings of the original trilogy simply can't be matched for me. I'll end up renting the new one, but it doesn't deserve equal praise off the bat, I feel...
Quote: The Swedish adaptation was well done given those limitations as I said above. I watched it, but there are some things that it lacked. This movie has a well known director, top notch acting and is well choreographed. Much of the "anger" directed at this movie seems (in my opinion) to be by fanboys who simply do not want a different adaptation to be made because they fear that it will diminish the Swedish adaptation.
I'm not afraid it's going to diminish the original trilogy. Hell, I already expect it to. I told guys I work with about the trilogy and was laughed off for it being foreign-made. That aside, I'm much less an angry fanboy than I am someone sick of Hollywood's recent bout of writer's block. Between all the crappy tween-marketed movies, mediocre sequels, and all out remakes of old classics, I don't think they deserve another dime from me for their laughable lack of creativity.
Curious to ask, did they alter the plot at all to make it more regional/Americanized? I've no clue how different it's going to be but if it's a totally different plot, to hell with this movie.
One last, light aside... you're a terrible socialist! One of the four monopolizing corporations of the movie industry spits out a remake from overseas and you're all on it's jock strap.
Politicians are puppets, y'all. Let's get Geppetto!
Quote: The original Lisbeth was spot-on, perfect for the role. She had that raw, sort-of bisexual androgyny about her where she could beat the crap out of you yet be soft, emotional, and sweet. Bloomqvist was solid, too. I've always had a thing for investigative journalism and don't think the field gets enough spotlight shone on it. So the plot, Lisbeth, and natural settings of the original trilogy simply can't be matched for me. I'll end up renting the new one, but it doesn't deserve equal praise off the bat, I feel...
Rooney Mara blows the original Lisbeth out of the water. She is absolutely amazing in the film and the transformation she made in it is simply amazing.
Quote: Hell, I already expect it to.
It doesn't dimish the trilogy. It is a different adaptation than the Swedish version. But, that does not make it "lesser". In fact, it is a far better adaptation. IMHO.
Quote: That aside, I'm much less an angry fanboy than I am someone sick of Hollywood's recent bout of writer's block.
This isn't about a "writer's block". This is a very good movie that beats out the other films in theaters. The other films in theaters are worthless "Chipmunks" movies, Mission Impossible Sequals, and of course let's not forget - more stoner comedies.
Quote: Between all the crappy tween-marketed movies, mediocre sequels, and all out remakes of old classics, I don't think they deserve another dime from me for their laughable lack of creativity.
This film is not marketed towards "tweens" and is a very adult film as mentioned above. This is not a "mediocre sequel" and is not a remake of an old classic. It is an American adaptation of a Swedish novel. Sure, there is a foreign version out there that is in Swedish with American subtitles, but there also is a film out there called "Manhunter" which is an 80s film all around and is far inferior to "Red Dragon". That is the difference between the Swedish version and this version. One is underfunded and lacks a certain umph. While this version has everything one would want in a big-screen adaptation of Stieg Larsson's GWTDT.
Quote: Curious to ask, did they alter the plot at all to make it more regional/Americanized?
They did not. It still takes place in Sweden, the writeen languages seen throughout the film are in Swedish (except for important sections where the viewer needs to understand something - such as words underneath a photograph or a news article that they are supposed to see), the only difference is that the actors speak in English.
Quote: I've no clue how different it's going to be but if it's a totally different plot, to hell with this movie.
The plot is not altered. In fact, it is more graphic than the Swedish version. Especially in regards to the Lisbeth-Bjurman rape scenes. Also, Lisbeth and Blomkvist (sp?) have more chemistry in this adaptation and their relationship during TGWTDT is depicted better in this version.
Quote: One last, light aside... you're a terrible socialist! One of the four monopolizing corporations of the movie industry spits out a remake from overseas and you're all on it's jock strap.
Love the books, was going to go see the movie, but a 2.5 hour movie seems really long the day after Christmas. I think I'll go see it this Saturday during the early daytime.
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