Maybe a week before Christmas at the most ... but usually the day before only.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I celebrate Christmas at Thanksgiving with the wife's family - so I start listening to Christmas music the week before Thanksgiving when we put up decorations.
Post Turkey. If you asked when I hate it most or have, the few years back when our mall got draped in Christmas like just before Halloween, and stuff had sneaking out in summer from August. Time and place for everything, and keep everything in i its place in time.
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The problem is, with retail, people are buying Christmas as soon as it's out. We struggled with when to bring it out in our own store. November first was our answer...and that was LATE. People were already asking.
Love Christmas music (particularly classical/sacred Christmas music). I start listening after Thanksgiving as my family traditionally decks our halls that weekend.
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I feel like I should hate Christmas music, but I don't really mind it at all. I love the Christmas season, seeing houses decorated. There's tons of football on tv, lots of good movies seem to alway be on (not just Christmas movies either). I just hate the pressure to buy the perfect gifts for your people.
Plus I get kinda screwed because I have a bunch of birthdays in December.
After Thanksgiving because you don't have much choice, they play it in the stores and on the radio.. It's really that last week before Christmas and Christmas day that I will actually play it on a CD or seek it out.
Disrespectful neighbor is playing LOUD Christmas music outside his home for 6 hours every evening, 7 days a week, from 4.30pm until 10.30pm, which started before Thanksgiving and he plans to play it thru New Year's Eve. It can easily be heard 6 acres away. Nearby resident asked him most politely to please turn it down, whereupon he denied how it could possibly be a problem to surrounding properties, whilst exhibiting somewhat belligerent body language, and swearing. Despite his claim that he cannot even hear this music in his own home, he is obviously sufficiently arrogant to inflict this offensive noise on all the neighbors. Our town has no noise ordinance.
I see nothing wrong with this. It's not like he's doing it late into the night so you can't sleep.
What's next? We start asking the neighbors to turn off all those freaking lights? They look gaudy and they're SO BRIGHT! Sometimes they don't turn them off at ALL. The horror....
Enjoy the free Christmas music.
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I personally disagree because I think it's disrespectful of your neighborhood... I LOVE Christmas music but there's no way I'd be blaring it every night for 6 hours especially if someone politely asking me to turn it down... they didn't ask him to turn it off, just turn it down a bit...
if he said no I'd wait until after New Years and then start blaring either classical or veggie tales
If there was a holiday associated with honoring veggie tales...then more power to you. To do it "just because" is a bit of a stretch though. We're talking 3-4 weeks out of the year, during the biggest holiday of the year here. It's SUPPOSED to be festive outdoors.
I guess you would have to define "blaring". If you are going through all the effort to produce outdoor Christmas music then you want it to be loud enough to be heard by people and cars walking or driving by...otherwise there's no point. If that's considered "blaring" then I think you'd need to get over it as long as he shuts it down early enough.
If it's to the point the bass is rattling your neighbors windows...then yeah you have a point and he should turn it down a smidge.
If it's just to the point where you can hear it in your house next door...again I say get over it and enjoy the free Christmas music. Just means you don't have to turn it on in your home! Think of it as saving you on your electric bill .
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Quote: What if it was islamic music? or jewish? to celebrate their holidays....
look all I'm saying is if a neighbor politely asks you to turn your music down you should do it out of common courtesy....
Especially if you really feel the Christmas spirit.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
10:30 pm is pushing it. Most cities have a 9pm noise ordinance. I'm just saying... it would annoy the crap out of me no matter what time of day. If I couldn't drown it out with my tv or radio, I would be making a phone call. But then again, I'm a mean person and I dislike holidays like nobody's business.
Quote: What if it was islamic music? or jewish? to celebrate their holidays....
I'd turn up my CHRISTMAS music louder so I didn't have to hear theirs. But they have every right to play theirs as well. More power to them.
Quote: look all I'm saying is if a neighbor politely asks you to turn your music down you should do it out of common courtesy....
Well in general, sure I agree with you. But if the POINT of the display it so passer-byes can enjoy the music it's inherently going to need to be turned up a bit. So, if the neighbor wants me to turn it down to the point people can't hear it from the road anymore...then tough. If they want me to turn it down so it isn't rattling their windows...then sure I'm glad to turn it down a touch.
I have no idea exactly how loud or not this display is.
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I swear to you. One day I will have a lighted train that runs around my entire house. It will play Christmas music and blow smoke out of the stack.
The reindeer will be lookers-on throughout the yard.
Santa will slide down off the roof on a slide and into the caboose...where he will proceed to take a lap around the house in the train. Once it gets in the back yard a hook will lift him back off and a conveyer belt will pull him back onto the roof to slide back down again the next time around.
I've been planning it for years. Don't tempt me. I'm an Engineer .
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Certain songs I listen to are "Christmas" songs but I listen to em year round. For instance I'll listen to "Happy Christmas (War is Over)" anytime of year, but not "Jingle Bells." There are other examples but that was the first that came to mind.
I never like listening to modern Christmas music. Chestnuts Roasting ... Jingle Bells ... Rudolph - Feh! - I don't like 'em. What I do like are the older, more religious carols like The First Noel, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, O Holy Night, and so on. We have this cassette (yes, I said cassette) called Eugene Ormandy & The Philadelphia Orchestra's "Glorious Sound Of Christmas". It has a version of "O Come Emmanuel" featuring either a cello or string bass lead that can only be described as powerful. The arrangement has this ascendant sound, a lot like Barber's "Adagio" (the theme from Platoon) that never fails to produce goosebumps on my arms and tears in my eyes.
Quote: But if the POINT of the display it so passer-byes can enjoy the music it's inherently going to need to be turned up a bit. So, if the neighbor wants me to turn it down to the point people can't hear it from the road anymore...then tough.
If his intent is to entertain people in the street, who are not on his property, then he probably needs a special public concert permit to do that.
I'm firmly in the camp that he should turn it down, turn if off earlier, perhaps let it on a little later on weekends and when people actually go out and look at lights...
Just remember this, it is people like this who refuse to be respectful of their neighbors that cause really restrictive noise ordinances and various other laws to be enacted which end up punishing everybody. It is in his own best interest to respect his neighbors.
Just remember this, it is people like this who refuse to be respectful of their neighbors that cause really restrictive noise ordinances and various other laws to be enacted which end up punishing everybody. It is in his own best interest to respect his neighbors.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
My neighbor, years ago, asked me if it was ok with us if he kept his work truck in his driveway. It is against city ordinance to keep this size truck (think UPS size) in the driveway, but the city told him they don't seek those violations out, but would come after him if his neighbors complained. His truck is parked under my bedroom window every night. I told him the only time I would have an issue with his truck being in the drive is if he was working at 2am and preventing me from sleeping. Otherwise, no issues. BUT, he asked me if it was ok and would have figured out something else if I hadn't been. (and he's about to do something about it on his own anyway - he hates having the damn thing in his driveway)
You're lucky then... I see the city cars driving around here all the time looking. They have told me that they have employees for that purpose only. I've gotten two or three ridiculous letters from them for random "violations". I also have a few friends here that have found these employees on their property, taking pictures and stuff... Creepy.
Well, that's creepy! No, the police in my city like to nail speeders and people that don't come to a complete stop at stop signs with tickets. We're sorta known for that. And our 50's-60's era rule of not selling homes to minorities (hence the reason we're known as Caucasion Falls). Great things to be proud of, eh? Love my city, but we're most known for some crappy things, oh and Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders.
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