DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum HuffPo has a good article--for once. And some irony, too.

HuffPo article

I usually don't like HuffPo; it's much too liberal for me. The story 's about the down job market and how a 23-year-old girl can't find a job so she has to move back to her hometown. She majored in art history and took on $120k in debt at Syracuse, becoming an Orangeman like Browns legend Jim Brown. The only thing I wish HuffPo did was point out she should have chosen a better major in a more emphatic way.

If the economy is so bad, then how did the blonde girl get a broadcast job interviewing for HuffPo? Surely, all Millienials are all doomed to a life of no jobs...right?

The most salient point I found is that the economy must not be doing too badly as the HuffPo interviewer in the video, a blonde woman, is no older than the girl being interviewed. A bit ironic...

No kidding. About the only thing you can do with an art history degree is teach art history....or maybe get one of the rare museum or auction house jobs.

Depending on her minors, Art History could be applied to marketing, television, print and electronic medias of all kinds. Not to mention the art appraisal and art investment fields.

Sometimes not "being able" to find a job translates to "I can't find a job doing what I want to do".

I have to say---this is why I shied away from going to art school I had an open invitation to accept a full ride to some art school in New Mexico. They had seen some of my work, some oil paintings, and offered me a scholarship. I decided against it, b/c I felt like art school wasn't going to be a great option once I graduated.

I felt like an art degree would really minimize my employment options after school.

You know what I think is even sadder though.

Its the fact that a HS Diploma doesn't get you anywhere anymore. That is sad. Especially since; at one time, a HS diploma was all you really needed and you could enter the workforce and count on receiving a decent job. A job that you could depend on to support a family.

Nowadays, a diploma means pretty much nothing. In fact, I would encourage kids to just get your GED and look at getting into a college asap b/c a college degree, and increasingly, a masters or doctorate, is the only way that you can really count on getting a well-paying job.

I honestly don't see that much of a difference. Honestly, I know some real morons that went to online college, got a degree, and they are still complete fools. But they have a piece of paper that says they spent some time and money at school. Then they get a job and the first thing they do is get put into on-the-job training.

Its ridiculous. I really don't believe that I learned anything in college that I couldn't have learned with a library card and internet access.

But if you were to teach yourself, or pursue knowledge independently--then it doesn't count.

I feel really bad for people like my brother. He is a really smart guy. But he never went to college. He is smarter than a lot of people that went to college. And most likely would perform better in a lot of positions than the college educated people that man those positions today. But b/c he refuses to go to college--he can pretty much count himself out of a lot of good jobs going forward.

Talking to him, and he tells me the same thing all the time. College is for idiots who can't think on their own. He went one semester and dropped all his classes after a few weeks b/c he said he had zero respect for majority of his professors.

I asked him why---and he pointed out that majority of them were overweight and it was quite obvious to him, that they make way, way, way too much money for what they actually do....They don't contribute any real tangible thing to anyone. Instead they sit on their fat duff and teach lesson plans that have no real root in reality.

He always is talking about how he wants fossil fuels to dry up, and electricity to fail on a massive scale. Basically, because all these moronic degrees will be utterly worthless. And these people who resemble fat loaves of nothing, they will starve to death while people like him are able to provide food for themselves through hunting and fishing and stalking their prey.

A lot of days, I kind of find myself agreeing with him. I can't stand fat, lazy people. Hate them. I get even more angry when said fat lazy people make bank sitting on their behinds. Growing up, we were always taught that any man can measure whether he is doing honest work by looking at the ratio between the broadness of his shoulders, and the broadness of his backside.

If your backside is bigger than your shoulders---then you are not a real man. And you don't work a real job. You are scumbag leeching off of society. You are earning an unfair piece of the pie---and b/c you don't do any actual work, you get even fatter b/c you aren't burning any calories to justify your big piece of cake.

And if you are a doper you are a burden to society, in one way or another.

Actually, a degree, any degree, is helpful. Just because it isn't in the field you may be working, doesn't mean it didn't come into play during the hiring process.

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Sometimes not "being able" to find a job translates to "I can't find a job doing what I want to do".

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where I want to do it, with the benefits I want, and the pay I want.

Finished...

Nah , I know plenty of "dopers" (whatever the hell that means ) who are very productive and are no drain at all . If you meant to say junkie then maybe you'd have a better point.

I'm in the employment business,, I'll tell you right now, over the years, I've placed hunderds of fresh college grads.. Not one was a Art History major.

Not that that's a bad thing.. In and of itself, it's fine. but that degree doesn't lend itself to a huge boat load of career choices.. Doesn't open a ton of doors.. FWIW...

Don't you do temp placement?

I would imagine that there aren't many positions that require a fine art degree that are temporary in nature.

That's just a guess on my part though.

I know a lot of government agencies want History majors. They recruited heavily out of the history department at the college I went to.

depending on the focus, History is also a nice major if you want to go to Law School.

and, basically, that is the point. if you just pick a major because you "like" it without looking long term at what type of employment you could possibly get out of it and making sure that you take the appropriate coursework (and internships in the summer and/or weekends), then you are wasting your time.

even for for more rigid majors like electrical engineering. well, if one just takes the generic coursework and never get an internship, then they will not find a job when they graduate (or maybe find an internship if I'm lucky and build back up). It's all about figuring out which 'focus' area of the major one is interested in, going in depth there, and backing it up with experience (with a job while in school if at all possible).

Long term planning is not the forte of our society though.