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Dick Jauron has been hired, according to Mary Kay Cabot.

Looking for the link.

I think I want to vomit.

I like this pick even less than I liked the Shurmur pick ... and that's really, really going some.

(PS to PPE ... we really need a "vomit" icon for this regime)

Well ..... get ready to start getting blasted on the ground .. 200 .. even 300 yards in some games ........ against inconsequential opponents like the Steelers .... and Ravens ..... and Bengals .........

That's a good way to win in the AFCN.

Finally we agree.

After reading your post I want to vomit.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/cleveland_browns_lose_dave_wan.html


says he was our choice all along.

Seriously. It's as if Holmgren *wants* to alienate Browns fans.

"Well folks, you've been losing for years and years and your once proud franchise has become a long running joke. So now I've decided to hire nothing but loser retreads that have failed and been fired pretty much everywhere they've gone! But don't forget, I'm a football mastermind!"

And we never even offered the job to Rob Ryan. The older I get the less I understand this team. It is very trying to be a browns fan.

It is *very* clear that NO ONE wants to work for the Cleveland Browns. No one except people who can't get a job anywhere else. How sad.

Does anyone know we didn't offer the job to Ryan? Maybe he's next in line if Garrett gets fired.

And why does everyone keep getting upset about "retreads?" We didn't hire Jauron to be a head coach, so the fact that he has headcoaching experience just means he's overqualified by one point of view.

I don't love the pick but he hasn't even been officially announced and soem of you guys sound like you're ready for fall of 2012 already ...

I actually read (and I will look for the link) earlier today that Wannstedt took the job with the Bills only when he learned the Browns were leaning towards Jauron.

Obviously no proof in that, but some of you guys believe everything that you hear, even though you're only looking at the tip of the iceberg.

The truth is Holmgren and Heckert have probably contacted dozens of candidates over the last few days .. just because we didn't hear that something happened doesnt mean it didn't happen ..

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says he was our choice all along.

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But he did say it before the hiring.

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But he did say it before the hiring.

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Well if you say it before the hiring you sort of start bidding against yourself don't you?

Coaching career

National Football League

Assistant coach: Jauron began his coaching career in the NFL in 1985 as the Buffalo Bills defensive backs coach. He was offered the position by Bills defensive coordinator Hank Bullough, who was the Bengals defensive coordinator when Jauron was a player.

After one season with the Bills, Jauron was named the defensive backs coach for the Green Bay Packers. He worked with the team for eight seasons, serving under three different head coaches: Forrest Gregg, Lindy Infante, and Mike Holmgren.

Jauron became the defensive coordinator for the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars in 1995 at the invitation of then-Jaguars head coach Tom Coughlin, whom he coached with at Green Bay. The Jaguars made the playoffs in three of Jauron's four seasons with the team, including an appearance in the 1996 AFC Championship Game.

Following his first head-coaching job, Jauron served as the defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions in 2004 and the first 11 games of the 2005 season before being named the team's interim head coach.

[Chicago Bears: Jauron became the 12th head coach in Chicago Bears history on January 23, 1999, when he was hired to replace Dave Wannstedt, who was fired after two consecutive 4–12 seasons. Jauron coached the Bears for five seasons (1999–2003), finishing with a 35–45 regular season record and one playoff appearance.

In his first two seasons, the Bears finished last in the NFC Central with 6–10 and 5–11 records.

Jauron, however, led the greatest turnaround in team history during his third season. In their 13-3 2001 campaign, Chicago finished 8-0 in games decided by seven points or less, including back-to-back overtime victories. Jauron was named the 2001 AP Coach of the Year and became the third coach in team history to record at least 13 wins in a season, joining George Halas and Mike Ditka.[9] Current Bears head coach Lovie Smith joined that group following the Bears' 13-3 regular season in 2006.

After earning their first division title in 11 years, however, Chicago lost a home game to the Philadelphia Eagles, 33-19, in the NFC Divisional Playoffs.[10] The Bears did not return to the playoffs under Jauron, finishing 4-12 and 7-9 in his last two seasons with the team. He was fired by the Bears after the 2003 season and replaced by current head coach Lovie Smith.[11]

Detroit Lions: Jauron was then hired by the Detroit Lions as a defensive coordinator. He was promoted to interim head coach of the Lions on November 28, 2005, after the mid-season firing of Steve Mariucci.[12] Detroit was 4-7 when Jauron took over and won only one of their last five games, finishing the season 5-11. Although Jauron was one of many candidates who interviewed for the head coaching position after the season, he was passed over for Rod Marinelli.[13]

Buffalo Bills: Jauron was named the 14th head coach in Buffalo Bills history on January 23, 2006, following the resignation of Mike Mularkey.[14] He has led the Bills to three consecutive 7-9 records, finishing respectively third, second and fourth in the AFC East. In 2008 the team started 5-1, but ended the season on a 2-8 skid.

Bills owner Ralph Wilson announced on December 30, 2008, that Jauron will be brought back for the 2009 season despite the expiration of his three-year contract.[15]

On the morning of Friday, September 4, 2009, Jauron fired his offensive coordinator, Turk Schonert, in a morning meeting before the regular season began. Two different viewpoints emerged, Jauron stating in a press conference the reason for his firing was a "lack of productivity", while Schonert claimed that Jauron told him that he "had too many formations, too many plays", and that he "didn't simplify it to his liking." [16] Schonert was replaced the same day by former Buffalo Bills quarterback and then quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt.[17] After taking over, Van Pelt brought back the no-huddle offense, in the form of Jim Kelly's "K-Gun" offense that led the team to four straight Super Bowls in the 1990s.

Due to the declining performance of the Bills and despite player support for Jauron, many Buffalo fans wanted to see the removal of the coach. By using social networking sites such as Facebook, many fans have raised money for a digital billboard reading "It's Time to Clean House, Ralph" on the I-190 extension of the I-90 thruway to Buffalo. .[18]

On November 17, 2009, Jauron was relieved of his coaching duties by the Buffalo Bills as announced by owner Ralph Wilson.[19]

Philadelphia Eagles: On February 2, 2010, Jauron was hired by the Philadelphia Eagles as a senior assistant and defensive backs coach.

I'm not sure I understand what that means but I was just saying that Livingston said Jauron was our first choice and he said it before the actual hire. I was only funnin' with peen.

I would have preferred Wanni but Dick Jauron is a good coach and he was the most likely to be hired with his connections to both Holmgren and Heckert.

In this case, I am certain that they did get the guy they wanted.

Truth be told .. I kind of like the fact that he has experience with the expansion Jaguars. Regardless of what kind of defense we run, we at LEAST have more talent than an expansion team...

jc

He did help take an expansion Jaguars to back to back 13-3 seasons in just 4 years as a DC.

Dick Jauron's defenses:

For comparisons' sake, we allowed 2070 yards rushing and 7 rushing TDs last year. We allowed a total of 332 points, but only 311 on defense as we had 3 INT returned for TDs.

Jacksonville:

1995: 2003 yards rushing and 17 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 402 points)
1996: 1781 yards rushing allowed and 9 rushing TDs (allowed 335 points)
1997: 1734 yards rushing allowed and 12 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 318 points)
1998: 2000 yards rushing allowed and 9 rushing TDs allowed (allowed 338 points)

Bears: (Head Coach)
1999: 1882 rushing yards allowed and 11 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 341 points)
2000: 1827 rushing yards allowed and 15 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 355 points)
2001: 1313 rushing yards allowed and 6 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 203 points) Great year!
2002: 2076 rushing yards allowed and 20 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 379 poiints)
2003: 1865 rushing yards allowed and 13 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 346 points)

(Fired)

Lions: (DC)
2004: 1887 rushing yards allowed and 10 rushing TDs. (allowed 350 points)
2005: 2040 rushing yards and 15 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 345 poiints)

Bills: (Head Coach)

2006: 2254 rushing yards allowed and 14 rushing TDs. (allowed 311 points)
2007: 1993 rushing yards allowed and 15 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 354 points)
2008: 1946 rushing yards allowed and 18 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 342 points)
2009: 2501 rushing yards allowed and 19 rushing TDs allowed. (allowed 326 points)


Someone please tell me why this is a "great hire". This was my point all along ...... I think that he is a horrible pick for the AFCN, where teams are big, OLs are big and powerful .... and Jauron like smaller and faster defenders.

Pardon me if I am not impressed. Someone tell me why I should be.

Just clicking.....
Has this been substantiated by anybody else?????....the only other article I can see is saying that "we hope to here from him today".....And that is it....

Most I can find is this..

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The Cleveland Browns are expected to name Dick Jauron as the team's defensive coordinator, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer on Friday.


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Browns coach Pat Shurmur met with Jauron about running his defense Tuesday and Wednesday. Jauron, a head coach with the Chicago Bears, Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions, spent last season coaching the Philadelphia Eagles' secondary.

Shurmur also met with Dave Wannstedt on Thursday, who was forced to resign at Pitt after going 7-5 this past season, his sixth at the school. Wannstedt has drawn interest from the Buffalo Bills.

The Browns also are in the market for an offensive coordinator. Shurmur plans to call his own plays next season, which could be limiting his choices.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Yous guys are crazy. I love the hire.

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I'm not sure I understand what that means but I was just saying that Livingston said Jauron was our first choice and he said it before the actual hire. I was only funnin' with peen.

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I must have misread. I was just saying that if we announced he was the favorite before hiring him, it would allow him to drive his price up.

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I love the hire.

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Dick Juaron, is that you?

Seriously though, why do you love the hire?

I want to be optimistic but Ytown has a good point. Almost none of his previous defenses look like upgrades. I know a lot of factors come into play, but it's not like we have a ton of great defensive personnel to bolster my optimism.

Ill try to keep my hopes up though.

Respectfully, stats are two sided and you can't take them all for what it's worth. This year how many times did we run the ball and eat up the clock / shorten the games? Of course our defensive stats look better than they would if we tried to pass every down or scored quickly .. we just played small ball

Like many others have said, I would rather have Wanstache.

But it will be good to have an ex-head coach heading up the defensive side of the ball for a rookie coach who will also be calling plays on offense.

Jeez, it's not like they hired Madonna to run the D. This guy is a football coach. He knows defense and will offer a big picture perspective Shurmer could use as a first time HC. His stats are only as good as the players he's had to work with. If Heckert gets him some talent in the draft and signs up a couple key free agents, who knows how well he'll do?

Just a note...Ryan said "We're prepared. This is the time of year when the best players and the best coaches win football games." That was at his Friday presser before the Bills game. I wasn't so impressed with the job he did in the last quarter of last season.

Alright, point taken. As I've been saying though, I just don't get the feeling of hopelessness that seemed to just come upon the board in the past 48 hours.

I truly think a big part of it is the framing done by the media. Regardless of what the truth is, IF the Browns would have kept all of thier news 100% secret and the first news we heard was that we chose Dick Jauron, a lot of people wouldn't have been so pessimistic imo.

But I think because it's being framed that we keep missing out on candidates, everyone seems to think the whole process is hopeless and we should just suspend operations for a year and try to hire a new staff next January ..

It could be worse, our fall back option was/is Billy Davis.

You know YTown, you keep throwing stats up there like the only variable was one man. Sorry, but that only works in horseshoes and golf.

On a team where there is 11 starters on defense of varying talent levels, all the backups with varying talent levels, all the position coaches of varying abilities, a head coach, his GM, president and owner all of whom make direct effect on those stats it just can't be boiled down to one man and have those stats be his personal record of success or failure.

If it were so easy as to just use stats to prove or disprove anything it would be a piece of cake to tell exactly who is the best and who is the worst. Yet, one guy can have failure with one team then go on to be successful with another. Conversely, one guy can have great success with one team then fail miserably with his next one.

There are just way to many variables to attribute the success or failure of anything by using stats to prove or disprove a point.

I admire your diligence in digging up interesting stats. But if stats were the end all be all then this is nothing more than a kids' game because even a kid can look at the stats and make a decision based on them. However, it much more complicated and intricate than just that and there are so many variables to be considered and for that reason it's a lot tougher to make decisions.

You don't like people pointing to Mangini's back-to-back 5-11 record as testament to his failure as a coach because you point out that he was dealing with a lack of talent. See, there's a variable at play there. But you can post Jauron's defensive ranking as though it tells the whole story on the man. But I'm telling you that there are variables at play here that are not being considered by the stats.

Well Jauron is better then Wannstedt...although not by much....

its kinda like choosing between two cheap terrible beers on which one is the least terrible...

We would have been better off hiring a young guy....seriously...

like Jimmy Lake from the Buccaneers
http://www.buccaneers.com/team/coaches/jimmy-lake/4fac43be-b125-40f5-bda7-2a8745ca088b

or Joe Baker from the Buccaneers
http://www.buccaneers.com/team/coaches/joe-baker/886f53a8-a60d-4b28-a105-bc60dde6cb2a

or Karl Dunbar from the Vikings
http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/karl-dunbar/e36af20f-5cb6-4af8-83fa-41ac03e16d94

just to get started ALL would have been a better choice then Jauron

Why does this team not wan to go out and hire young guys who just want a shot...guys like will work HARDER just because they want a chance to prove themselves, a chance to move up.

this is how good SUCCESSFUL companies find top people...they don't go hire former failures...they go hire young up and coming guys...Look at the Steelers with Mike Tomlin...they went out and hired a young motivated guy that could grow as a coach and wanted to prove himself...the guy was motivated.

the Steelers have a good smart "corporate head hunter" type of hiring staff compared to what the Browns use...and it shows...outside of Arians...most of their coaching staff hires are always young guys just wanting a chance to move up and coach be it position coach, coordinator, or even head coach.

they go out and find young guys who have something to prove...young up and coming guys.....

experience is "over-rated" and is really on valuable to guy that are winners or been successful...Jauron hasn't been that great over his career and thank god we didn't hire Wannstedt...

look its just my take, but i would go and hire a young guy who wants to move up and prove something over a retread failure....why not try something new...why not give a young guy a chance to prove himself...we did it with shurmur...why not with the rest.

this is a rebuild...let a young coaching staff grow with a young head coach....it makes more sense longterm.

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We will have a nasty secondary I promise you that.