Classy and professional all at the same time ........
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Pathetic. Oh, and don't forget the families are affected..
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We like to put it in very grave terms in regards to head coaches being fired ... but let's face it, the guy is going to get paid millions of dollars per his contract. He and his family aren't anything I'm concerned about, frankly.
I'm sure the guy will land on his feet. Not where he wanted, but the kids will be fed, I'm sure.
Maybe you don't see it mac, and frankly, I'm not surprised that you don't, but that was about as unprofessional as you can get.
It's no wonder that I almost never watch ESPN anymore .... even skipping most NFL, NCAA, and NBA games they carry.
ESPN has really sunk to the bottom of the gutter as far as I'm concerned. This is just piled on top of the "Decision", and all of the other crap they try to heap on Cleveland.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: Maybe you don't see it mac, and frankly, I'm not surprised that you don't, but that was about as unprofessional as you can get.
It's no wonder that I almost never watch ESPN anymore .... even skipping most NFL, NCAA, and NBA games they carry.
ESPN has really sunk to the bottom of the gutter as far as I'm concerned. This is just piled on top of the "Decision", and all of the other crap they try to heap on Cleveland.
Only what "has to" be seen, like the Sugar Bowl tomorrow, for example, or an event like the Daytona 500,....their off hours programming and sports talk shows, I pay NO attention to. That's TV. I do listen to the morning radio stuff.
yt...your assuming they are high-fiving due to news Mangini was fired...like I said, you can here them mention the name Josh, someone on the set. They refer to Josh about breaking news and noting the time. Like I said, they may have made some kind of wager when the news about Mangini would break.
Looks like an inside joke to me...not celebrating Mangini's firing.
You could write ESPN and complain to them...or, if you don't like ESPN any longer, turn the channel...
i can agree with the change but it wasn't like most fans were clamoring for his exit.
he was a class guy that represented the organization well, and he beat the steelers.
i truly believe if the browns have success in the near future you can attribute some of it to the work mangini put in.
the wins weren't there, but i heard an interview with michael smith, a los angeles writer, who said he made this job more desirable with some of the changes he made with the facilities, and culture of the team.
i can't argue against the fact that there were some players who didn't like playing for him, but it's not like guys were telling reporters he was a bad guy.
i certainly can't blame him for the way the players quit yesterday, by everything we read, mangini put a ton into preparation for every game, as much as probably anyone in the league, that is on them. those players need to look in the mirror.
i am not celebrating the firing of mangini, i liked the guy. i would have been ok if he was given another year.
i think cleveland fans have been painted by the national media as wanting to run the guy out of town. not true.
i know what he was trying to do with this team, and had you given him another 2 or 3 years, you may have seen a contender, but i believe mike holmgren wanted things done in a different direction.
it's typical of espn though. and while mangini's family doesn't have to worry about money and security, it still sucks having to pick up your life and move it elsewhere, especially with kids and school. it's not fun.
i wish him the absolute best wherever he goes. class guy in my book.
Quote: Maybe you don't see it mac, and frankly, I'm not surprised that you don't, but that was about as unprofessional as you can get.
It's no wonder that I almost never watch ESPN anymore .... even skipping most NFL, NCAA, and NBA games they carry.
ESPN has really sunk to the bottom of the gutter as far as I'm concerned. This is just piled on top of the "Decision", and all of the other crap they try to heap on Cleveland.
I agree.
Mac couldn't lose his job because of union contracts.
Too bad.
Had he made a better product and put some effort in to his work, we might still have a car industry in this country.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
'Peen, his feelings don't matter. He has a lot of money. Therefore, it's perfectly okay to do this kind of stuff.
I mean, when Lebron left, everyone was ok with it because he has a lot of money. I mean, as long as a lot of money is involved, whatever you do to the person is ok.
Mangini's kids and his wife and his parents and friends won't be hurt at all by this because Mangini has a lot of money.
Quote: 'Peen, his feelings don't matter. He has a lot of money. Therefore, it's perfectly okay to do this kind of stuff.
I mean, when Lebron left, everyone was ok with it because he has a lot of money. I mean, as long as a lot of money is involved, whatever you do to the person is ok.
Mangini's kids and his wife and his parents and friends won't be hurt at all by this because Mangini has a lot of money.
Ok....I guess that is the way some people think....if you make over $15 a hour, what more can you want??
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I said it in another thread and it applies here. I don't watch ESPN or MSNBC or CNN or FoxNews. I don't even bother to watch the pregame shows anymore. ESPNs pregame show is about the same teams, the same players and the same stupid commentary over and over again ad nauseum so I quit watching last year.
I much rather go to sports sites, news sites, think tank sites, blogs, than watch the crap they spoon feed America.
Tell me about it. I use to love pre-game shows, but after a while, especially when the games are advertised, they give you a deceptive starting time until you tune in and realize..... there's another hour to go before the game actually starts. It's ridiculous. I don't care for the pre-game shows, I don't care for the halftime shows.. just give me the damn game.
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I watched a football game on Veetle earlier this season that was from a broadcast feed in England. During commercial timeouts, instead of advertisements all the time, they would cut to a studio where three English guys were discussing the game analyzing what was happening and they did a better job than the dolts on our t.v.
Adam Shecter will always be Adam Sphincter in my book. A little goofball with short man's syndrome.
Hannah Storm is a washed up old cougar, her best days were on CNN, 20 years ago when she had some class. I watched that against my better judgement, after reading the posts in this thread. My thoughts are: who cares? No one worries about what these two have to say.
Quote: Maybe you don't see it mac, and frankly, I'm not surprised that you don't, but that was about as unprofessional as you can get.
It's no wonder that I almost never watch ESPN anymore .... even skipping most NFL, NCAA, and NBA games they carry.
ESPN has really sunk to the bottom of the gutter as far as I'm concerned. This is just piled on top of the "Decision", and all of the other crap they try to heap on Cleveland.
I agree.
Mac couldn't lose his job because of union contracts.
Too bad.
Had he made a better product and put some effort in to his work, we might still have a car industry in this country.
peen...you will have to forgive me for not falling in love with a HC who 5-11 two years in row...I'm not like you and the bunch of Gini apologist who are still pissed over his firing.
I watched the video and have no problem with what the espn announcers did because I believe you don't have a friggin clue what they were talking about...obviously they had something going on with people not on camera.
Quote: "]peen...you will have to forgive me for not falling in love with a HC who 5-11 two years in row...I'm not like you and the bunch of Gini apologist who are still pissed over his firing.
I watched the video and have no problem with what the espn announcers did because I believe you don't have a friggin clue what they were talking about...obviously they had something going on with people not on camera.
Mangini is gone...get over it..
Mac - wake up. No one is griping that Mangini got fired - we all understand that. That is not the issue here anyway.
What the hosts did was wrong - classless. Plain and simple.
Quote: peen...you will have to forgive me for not falling in love with a HC who 5-11 two years in row...I'm not like you and the bunch of Gini apologist who are still pissed over his firing.
You don't have to be in love with a guy to show some respect when he's fired. I'm not pissed that he's gone but I do wish him the best. I never understood taking the feelings regarding a coach or a player to a personal level just because they weren't quite up to the job. I believe Mangini tried and did the very best job he could do... sorry it appears it wasn't enough... that's no reason to dislike the guy on a personal level.
Quote: I watched the video and have no problem with what the espn announcers did because I believe you don't have a friggin clue what they were talking about...obviously they had something going on with people not on camera.
So if I'm at a funeral.. and I get a text from my wife that we just won $100K on a scratch off ticket, I should just begin to sing and dance around and hoot and holler because.. hey, anybody who thinks I'm being disrespectul doesn't have a friggin clue why I'm dancing and singing... right? WRONG... you act like an adult, if you want to celebrate because somebody won an office pool, then do it when the cameras aren't running and you aren't about to talk about somebody losing their job.
I think you like to take up contrasting points of view for no good reason other than to have a contrasting opinion.
If you can't see that for the unprofessionalism that it is you are truly a lost cause. And don't think that either of those two nitwits thought better about it either cause they were awfully quick to back peddle. (Probably someone backstage chirping in their earpiece)
Quote: "]peen...you will have to forgive me for not falling in love with a HC who 5-11 two years in row...I'm not like you and the bunch of Gini apologist who are still pissed over his firing.
I watched the video and have no problem with what the espn announcers did because I believe you don't have a friggin clue what they were talking about...obviously they had something going on with people not on camera.
Mangini is gone...get over it..
Mac - wake up. No one is griping that Mangini got fired - we all understand that. That is not the issue here anyway.
What the hosts did was wrong - classless. Plain and simple.
And Mac. Would it be OK if Obama was assassinated by some white supremacist group, and my friend and I high fived? Because before the election he was convinced it would happen.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
J/C. I'm sorry but considering the man is not going to be financially hurt by being fired from his job I just can't feel sorry for him. I was quite happy when I heard the news.
Someone got fired where I work a while back and I personally disliked the Guy but I felt sorry for him and was hoping the union got his job back because he did have a family and needed this job.
Even though I don't let money rule my life the fact of the matter is, there is alot more at stake with the Browns keeping Mangini versus firing him. If my company wanted to give me a job making millions of dollars for 4 yrs but it was performance based and I could be fired, I wouldn't have to think about it long and I sure wouldn't be hurt if someone celebrated my firing.
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and if you celebrated the firing, then that is fine.
however, journalists on a major news network are supposed to at least pretend to be unbiased and act with class. yes, in this case, they were celebrating some type of bet they had about Mangini's firing, but having such a bet become public also lacks class and professionalism.
to their credit, they did realize this on-air and offered a hasty apology.
if they had handled themselves as professionals on stage and someone cellphone taped them offstage high fiving about the bet, this wouldn't be an issue.
High fiving because someone dies and high fiving because a million dollar coach lost his job is two different things don't you think.
And on a different note I do think Obama will be assassinated before he gets out of office but I wont be high fiving anyone on this day. Probably be the start of the next civil war
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But as I said I'm not going to be high fiving my son when Obama gets shot even in the privacy of my home because I don't want it to happen and I dislike the man. Before and after he was elected
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Quote: But as I said I'm not going to be high fiving my son when Obama gets shot even in the privacy of my home because I don't want it to happen and I dislike the man. Before and after he was elected
So why do you feel it is ok for television personalities to high five a firing? On air. Live?
It may have not been ok. But the one thing that separates me from alot of other people is I really don't care or get to caught up in what other people say or do. People on this board care to much what goes on in the world. Example. Can you believe Randy Lerner wasn't at the browns game and was watching his soccer team. WHO CARES.
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Quote: It may have not been ok. But the one thing that separates me from alot of other people is I really don't care or get to caught up in what other people say or do. People on this board care to much what goes on in the world. Example. Can you believe Randy Lerner wasn't at the browns game and was watching his soccer team. WHO CARES.
I'm like that aswell...
But the flip side of that, is if you don't care... you can't all of a sudden care that other people care...
Just because you don't care doesn't mean other don't, and doesn't mean they should feel the same way, and not have the ability to express their opinions...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
And to answer your question as I said there is a DIFFERENCE between high fiving firing and high fiving when someone dies. Even when you are high fiving that you were right and not the fact that they actually died
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Quote: And to answer your question as I said there is a DIFFERENCE between high fiving firing and high fiving when someone dies. Even when you are high fiving that you were right and not the fact that they actually died
Oh, I absolutely agree there is a difference between a death and a firing. No doubt. Don't get hung up on that. In fact, I would say that everyone on here knows that and feels that way.
But the fact remains, the show hosts, on live t.v. - celebrated someone's firing by high fiving. Simply put, it was classless and unprofessional.
No more, no less. And as I said, even espn agrees with that.
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