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Dennis Dixon gets his chance to play with the Steelers first team this weekend. If he performs well enough, he figures to have a fighting chance to open the season against the Falcons as the Steelers' starting quarterback.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin doesn't sound like he's in a hurry to declare anything.

"It's probably beneficial to us to hold our cards," Tomlin said. "I know coach [Mike] Smith does an awesome down in Atlanta, I've got a great deal of respect for him. I would imagine it would be increasingly difficult for him to prepare to play us if we don't provide that information for him."

It's difficult to keep the identity of a starting quarterback secret through a full week of practice, but Tomlin may as well try. If we had to guess, both Dixon and Byron Leftwich will probably see action against Atlanta anyhow.

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I'm thinking a game of duck duck goose would be more appropriate. The fastest QB will be the one who survives with that porous offensive line.

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while Leftwich is as immobile as they come.

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Many have presumed that the decision of Commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games with the ability to reduce the ban to four games in reality represents a four-game suspension that would easily be expanded to six, if Roethlisberger gets into any trouble.

And the tea leaves have suggested that Goodell eventually will drop the suspension to four games, unless Roethlisberger somehow gets into trouble in the next four days, before he meets again with Goodell in New York. Indeed, Goodell said on August 4 that Roethlisberger "is doing what he's been asked to do -- and frankly more."

So it would be a surprise if Roethlisberger gets more than four games. According to Mike Wise of the Washington Post, however, a surprise could be coming. Wise says, via Twitter, that Roethlisberger will get five games.

That sound you hear in the distance is the stampede of all the Pittsburgh and interested national media doing the same thing that the New York and interested national media reacted to Tim Cowlishaw's out-of-the-blue Darrelle Revis report from eight days ago.

If the report is accurate, Roethlisberger would miss the first four games (vs. Falcons, at Titans, at Buccaneers, vs. Ravens), the bye week, and a home game against the Browns. He's return for a trip to Miami, followed by the Halloween game against the Saints.

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Many have presumed that the decision of Commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games with the ability to reduce the ban to four games in reality represents a four-game suspension that would easily be expanded to six, if Roethlisberger gets into any trouble.

And the tea leaves have suggested that Goodell eventually will drop the suspension to four games, unless Roethlisberger somehow gets into trouble in the next four days, before he meets again with Goodell in New York. Indeed, Goodell said on August 4 that Roethlisberger "is doing what he's been asked to do -- and frankly more."

So it would be a surprise if Roethlisberger gets more than four games. According to Mike Wise of the Washington Post, however, a surprise could be coming. Wise says, via Twitter, that Roethlisberger will get five games.

That sound you hear in the distance is the stampede of all the Pittsburgh and interested national media doing the same thing that the New York and interested national media reacted to Tim Cowlishaw's out-of-the-blue Darrelle Revis report from eight days ago.

If the report is accurate, Roethlisberger would miss the first four games (vs. Falcons, at Titans, at Buccaneers, vs. Ravens), the bye week, and a home game against the Browns. He's return for a trip to Miami, followed by the Halloween game against the Saints.

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So he would miss us in week 6 if he came back.

To be honest, I want Roethlisberger's first game to be against us as I think he will be rusty.

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I would rather they not have him as we will need some luck and that could be a lucky break for us.

Conversely if he were to get only 4 weeks he would have two weeks to prepare for us.

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When I used to have a real job, I hated Mondays. Now, I love them. Apart from the surge in traffic we experience (resulting from all the people who have real jobs and who consequently hate Mondays), the first day of the work week often brings all sorts of unpredictable developments.

This Monday was no different.

I was sitting here at the PFT nerve center, the dual-screen computer hookup pumping even more radiation into the various organs residing above my neck. While at the wheel of this online Orca, I usually keep an IM conversation open with Rosenthal and MDS, so that we don't write the same story twice. (Even then, it's roughly as effective as the rhythm method.)

At 12:18 p.m. ET, MDS asked via IM, "Did you see Mike of Washington Post says Roethlisberger will get five games?" MDS included the link to a tweet from Wise, a presumably tenured and respected member of the journalism community: "Roethlisberger will get five games, I'm told."

Currently, Roethlisberger has been suspended for six games. Everyone expects that the penalty will be reduced to four games. There was nothing controversial or outlandish about Wise's claim; sure, he doesn't cover the Steelers and he typically confines his reporting and analysis to the teams in D.C. But as we learned eight days ago, even a guy in a one-city niche can try to inject himself into the broader stream, like Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News did when reporting that the Jets and cornerback Darrelle Revis would come to terms on a new deal in a matter of days.

So we went with it, labeling it as a "report" and identifying Mike Wise as the source of it.

After posting the story, we began to hear from readers that Wise was claiming that the whole thing was a hoax. MDS later provided an updated link to Wise's Twitter page, which had multiple more recent entries after "Roethlisberger will get five games, I'm told."

Four tweets later, Wise said he "[c]an't reveal [his] sources." Then, more than an hour after posting the initial tweet, Wise said his source was a "casino employee in Lake Tahoe."

So we updated our original story. At the time, it wasn't clear why Wise chose to intentionally put out false information. I then remembered that he has a radio show, and so I dialed it up in order to listen to what he had to say.

During his show on 106.7 the Fan in D.C., Wise admitted that he fabricated the report in order to prove that "anybody will print anything."

Think about that for a second. To prove that "anybody will print anything," a guy who supposedly is a journalist made something up and published it for general consumption.

In this era of aggregation, it's common for websites and blogs to rely on reports from journalists who are (or, in Wise's case, were) regarded as reliable. We provide a one-stop shop for NFL news, rumors, and information; if Adam Schefter reports something interesting, we post a blurb and give him credit. Ditto for Jay Glazer, Peter King, and any other national or local reporter. It's one of the main reasons why we'll have nearly 40 million page views this month, and perhaps 50 million or more in September.

Our decision to post Wise's odd but nevertheless interesting report on Roethlisberger was no different than our decision to post Cowlishaw's odd but nevertheless interesting (and, ultimately, inaccurate) report regarding Revis. How is it, then, that we were wrong for passing along a report from a guy whom we reasonably assumed to at least be trying to get it right?

And that's the fundamental difference here. Everyone in this business is wrong at some point. The greater the volume of content (and we have 50 or more posts per day), the greater the chance for errors. Still, everyone in this business aspires in every instance to be right.

Or so we thought.

On Monday, Wise turned that concept on its head, deliberate lying about a superficially plausible report and then wagging a finger at those who were stupid enough to believe that he wasn't committing the kind of infraction for which many journalists have lost their jobs.

When confronted with the fact that his experiment with a magnifying glass, a pile of dry grass, and sunlight had started a forest fire, Wise fudged the facts to fit his claim that he quickly revealed that he was just trying to punk guys like Schefter and me. But Wise's on-air explanation of his tweets doesn't mesh with his timeline.

He first claimed that he instantly posted another message making it clear that the Roethlisberger report was phony. Then, he tried to explain that there was a delay in the Twitter site, and that the tweet that should have put us all on notice that Wise was full of crap came roughly 15 minutes later.

The truth is that Wise's Twitter page didn't reveal the truth for more than an hour after the first message was posted, which may as well be a week when the incorrect story hits the web during business hours on a Monday.

So who looks like the fool here? Wise for committing the journalistic equivalent of shouting "forest fire" in a crowded theater, or those of us (Miami Herald and Baltimore Sun and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review included) who opted to give his report the attention and the benefit of the doubt that none of Wise's reports will ever get from PFT again, no matter what he reports?

When discussing the situation on the air, Wise at one point said that he did it to prove that I'm a fraud. So . . . in an effort to expose me as a fraud, he did something fraudulent.

Mike, who's the real fraud here?

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So who looks like the fool here? Wise for committing the journalistic equivalent of shouting "forest fire" in a crowded theater, or those of us (Miami Herald and Baltimore Sun and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review included) who opted to give his report the attention and the benefit of the doubt that none of Wise's reports will ever get from PFT again, no matter what he reports?

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I can guarantee, you or I would be sitting in jail and not comp templating the Commissioner reducing our suspension.

Listen I was born, but not yesterday.
We all no that his money and or others paid this girl to drop the charges.
Now if he gets his penalty [slap on the wrist] reduced he will have two weeks to prepare for us.
I hope MH will write a letter to the league condemning the reduction if it in fact happens.

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Yes, Wise is a tool, however, as "journalists", it is PFT's responsibility - just as much as Wise's - to authenticate the information.

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But PFT did "authenticate" the information... it was on Twitter!


Still a good policy to not allow tweets on here as valid.

This Wise story is just one such example of the junk that resides there.

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many people blasted mangini for not announcing his starter against the vikings last year but it appears mangini is not the only person willing to do this.

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