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This report doesn't specify heart attack but that is what they are reporting on their TV station and pretty much everywhere else around here. It doesn't sound good. linkMultiple sources tell Bay News 9 that New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner has been hospitalized. Bay News 9 has learned that Tampa Fire Rescue responded to a call at Steinbrenner's house, and that someone was transported to St. Joseph's Hospital. There are unconfirmed reports that Steinbrenner was that patient. The 80-year-old Steinbrenner has been the owner of the New York Yankees since 1973. During that time, the Yankees won 11 pennants and seven World Series titles. Steinbrenner is also known for his philanthropy in the Tampa Bay area. More information will be released as it becomes available.
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Wow, sorry to hear that. The guy is certainly an icon, love him or hate him.
Plus, he's a Cleveland-ite, correct?
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From New York's ABC affiliate. NEW YORK (WABC) -- Eyewitness News has learned New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner has suffered a massive heart attack. Steinbrenner was rushed to St. Joseph's hospital in Tampa, Florida, and his condition is not known. Steinbrenner turned 80 on July 4th. During Steinbrenner's ownership since 1973, the longest in club history, the Yankees have earned 11 pennants and 7 World Series titles. Link
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Good, he's all but killed competitive baseball.
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he took advantage of an economic model that was voted on by ALL owners. there's more small market teams than large market teams. I dislike the system as well, but that is no reason to cheer against his physical well-being.
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I'm sorry you find my comments inappropiate. But I dont care, I dislike steinbrenner and all he represents. I'm not going to feel bad for him, sorry refuse. I hope his son runs the organization into the ground as well.
With the power of owning a major league franchise, also comes the responsibility to keep the league healthy and competetive, he has done nothing to hold up his obligations for the health of the league.
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You don't have to feel bad for him, but you don't have to post that you are happy about it either.
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Being reported he died web page
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Sorry, not going to parade around that I feel sorry for him and wish him well, I dont. Sorry, the guy is a class A jerk, and I felt the need to call him as such. Perhaps it was in poor taste.
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Wow, that sucks  I hate the Yankees completely, and his negative impact on baseball, but my condolences to his family on their loss.
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confirmed by cnn linky RIP George didnt like what ya represented but I wish ya well
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Yes he has passed away now and yes he was a Cleveland native....Rocky River specifically.
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I would much rather have had him the Indians owner than what we have now. RIP George....as crazy as you were. 
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RIP George, while I may have not agreed with your business practices you sure polarized many fan bases to support their local teams.
Just as punch said, he could've been the Indians owner and I doubt many of us would be complaining then.
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Sorry to hear he died. There's no denying the guy is an icon.
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RIP George..
He may or may not have been a great owner for the Indians.. it's not like he could have spent the money on the Tribe that he did on the Yankees because he wouldn't have had the revenue from the mechandise, the TV deals, the gate, etc... it's not like he was running the Yankees at a huge loss every year to do what he did. Had he owned the Indians he might have been better than what we've had but let's not pretend we would have been the Yankees.
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i don't blame george steinbrenner for the shape of mlb right now.
rip though, the guy was a huge personality for the game.
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Sorry, not going to parade around that I feel sorry for him and wish him well, I dont. Sorry, the guy is a class A jerk, and I felt the need to call him as such. Perhaps it was in poor taste.
As a die-hard Sox fan, I even have to say you're being classless.
Time to grow up and realize there's more to life than sports. We all love sports, but to speak like this over a man who had just died because you don't agree with his sports and business antics is a joke.
Grow up.
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Well put, Top.
Now, there are some people in the world who I would gladly cheer their death. People like Bin Laden, or child molesters, rapists, etc. Tough to have sympathy for people like that.
But someone like Steinbrenner whose only crime is playing with in the rules of his business? Someone who only hurt us because his team is richer than our team? That's pretty petty to be upset about that, IMO.
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Wow, that's sad. ... as others have said, love him or hate him, he's an icon.
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IIRC, the scoop on Steinbrenner's near-purchase of the Indians was that he would move them to his family's new base of operation in Tampa, Fl, which is why (I think) Vernon Stouffer sold them to Nick Mileti instead.
That said, condolences to the Steinbrenner family.
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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RIP Mr. Steinbrenner
He played within the rules of the game like no other and from what I read and heard this morning, did a lot for his communities and wanted no recognition for it. Modern day revenue sharing is probably the only reason I still have a team to root for in Pittsburgh, and I wish my teams owner was 1/10th as passionate and driven as Steinbrenner.
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Well put, Top.
Now, there are some people in the world who I would gladly cheer their death. People like Bin Laden, or child molesters, rapists, etc. Tough to have sympathy for people like that.
But someone like Steinbrenner whose only crime is playing with in the rules of his business? Someone who only hurt us because his team is richer than our team? That's pretty petty to be upset about that, IMO.
That's what people don't get. The Yankees play within the rules. Is baseball a broken sport? Sure. But, to hate a man for taking advantage of the flaws, and putting winning ahead of all else, and spending whatever is necessary to win, is childish.
Hate the rules of baseball all you want, but don't hate a guy for taking advantage of them. And sure as hell don't hate a man who by all reports was a good guy outside of the baseball world.
Like I said to a friend earlier... I hated Steinbrenner the Yankee, but from all reports, Steinbrenner the man was a good man.
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The Yankees play within the rules. Is baseball a broken sport? Sure. But, to hate a man for taking advantage of the flaws, and putting winning ahead of all else, and spending whatever is necessary to win, is childish.
To what extent did Steinbrenner and a select few others like him stand in the way of rules ever getting changed?
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The Yankees play within the rules. Is baseball a broken sport? Sure. But, to hate a man for taking advantage of the flaws, and putting winning ahead of all else, and spending whatever is necessary to win, is childish.
To what extent did Steinbrenner and a select few others like him stand in the way of rules ever getting changed?
everything is a league vote. i am sure he fought hard to keep his advantages, and he always seemed to be one step ahead of the competition (ex. YES network), but if the other owners were strong and unified, there was nothing he could do.
he was able to convince the extreme low-end revenue teams this was good for them (because they are essentially paid to field a team) and the higher end teams that they'd have an advantage.
what I can't figure out is how he got some of the mid-revenue teams to vote with him? he must have been pretty convincing.
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RIP George, Hate the team you built & the way you built it, but respected the fact you really didnt care what we thought,  Condolences to his family,
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Same could be said for several dictators.
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I'd take him over the cheap ass dolans even though he completely destroyed baseball. Of course our local red sox fan is trying to defend the way he build the team 
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Having the revenues of the Yankees and 8+ million resident fans makes it a LOT easier for Steinbrenner to do the type of spending he did.
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Having the revenues of the Yankees and 8+ million resident fans makes it a LOT easier for Steinbrenner to do the type of spending he did.
Exactly.
The wealth of George and the Dolans isn't that far apart.
The difference is local TV and radio broadcast revenue...which isn't shared....NY pays way more than a market like Cleveland.....like maybe 10-20 X more.
The Yankees are working at a profit or break even point from a player salary standpoint before ticket 1 is sold.
Cleveland has to probably sell 10,000 seats a game plus the other before they run at break even on player salary....that doesn't leave much for the rest of the operation..
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With the power of owning a major league franchise, also comes the responsibility to keep the league healthy and competetive, he has done nothing to hold up his obligations for the health of the league.
Says who? His number one responsibility as an owner is to put the best product on the field. Fans of any team in any sport would love to have a guy like Steinbrenner, who was so commtted to winning.
In this day and age, with the baseball system the way it is, I don't feel one bit sorry for an owner who buys a small market/small revenue team and then cries foul because he doesn't have the money to compete. It's not like you don't know going in what the situation is. In addition, how much money have teams like the Yankees and Red Sox paid back to baseball for revenue sharing. What are the teams doing with that money?
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I agree. he played inside the rules.
The rules favored him....don't blame him or blame him for wanting to keep it that way.
I doubt anybody in here would walk away from a slot machine that gave only you positive odds just because you wanted everybody else in the casino to have equal odds.
Sorry....you are full of crap if you say otherwise.
Sorry to be blunt and don't mean to personally offend anyone in a direct manner.
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One thing that needs to be pointed out, George is one of the absolute nicest guys you could ever meet. His baseball personality is well known, but outside of that, there is a reason why those Yankees players are saying these nice things. He does a TON for charity, and the community. He's also been well known to even stop on the side of the road whenever he sees someone broken down to help out. He funded an organization to pay for the college education of children of fallen officers, etc etc. Basically, he may have been rich, but he was one who always gave back and this world could surely use more people like him.
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I think Steinbreenenr loved being in the limelight and enjoyed being known as Yankees owner - and he wasn't a great baseball exec when you consider the Yanks did nothing ithe 80s and early 90s until he loosened his grip on running the team. But I always liked him cuz he had a sense of humour about his image. Saw a clip of him on SNL from (I'd guess) several years ago, it was hilarious.
RIP George Steinbrenner.
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He played within the rules of the game like no other and from what I read and heard this morning, did a lot for his communities and wanted no recognition for it.
I could make the argument that he played less within the rules of the game than did Conseco, McGuire, Clemens, Bonds, and Palmeiro.
I've no doubt that George did great things for the community with charitable contributions and the such, but he wasn't a good guy. He was a good businessman.
From all the stories my fathers buddies in Ohio told me, most of them had dealings with George over the years, he was a pure sonofabitch.
But, it's polite to say nothing but good things about people when they croak, so I'll chime in and say he helped usher in the great game of baseball that it is toda..........wait. 
I call him a tyrant and a crook, and he represented everything that was wrong with the current state of the game today. I'm sorry that he died, and I feel badly for his family, but I won't sing his praises for what he did to the game. When you hire a known thug to dig up dirt on a player with the sole intention of ruining his good name, you're a POS.
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I know several people who have met him and have never heard a bad story.
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