DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Who is Evan Moore, and.........who is he again?

Having spent the last 20 minutes trying to find out anything I can about this guy, all I've been able to learn is that the Saints signed him as an undrafted free agent in 2008. He was a two-sport guy at Stanford, playing basketball as well.

He should, the kid is listed at 6'7

He was a wideout whose listed weight was 237 in college. He had a dislocated hip and got a medical redshirt.

He then "bulked up" to 247 and ended up with the Saints, who promptly released him.

He signed with the Packers and went through offseason workouts and part of camp before having a serious knee injury. He was released from IR with an injury settlement.

All I can find is that he was promoted, and since getting here, he's been beyond awesome considering he came out of nowhere.

The catch against the Steelers was Winslow-esque, as he reached behind him with one hand and pulled the pass in.

Obviously, at that height, he isn't going to be a good blocker. In fact, even though he's listed in the 245-range, he's not going to be a very good blocker. However, he sure as Hell looks like a Joe Jurevicius type.

The big worry is going to be injuries.

People have said Quinn would be better served to have a TE. I'd agree. Moore could be that guy..........

Found a report, though the report isn't exactly Mel Kiper.

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Diamond in the rough?
Evan Moore
Evan Moore

By Tyler Dunne
tydunne07@yahoo.com
Posted Jun 22, 2008


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Free agent tight end Evan Moore improving his odds of making final roster, says Packer Report's Tyler Dunne

Evan Moore doesn’t know what all of the fuss is about.

The undrafted tight end runs his routes crisply with a knee-high stride. He makes hard cuts, flashes his hands immediately and catches the ball away from his body.

As a starting wide receiver in college such fluidness was expected. As an undrafted tight end in the pros it has players and coaches buzzing.

Through last week’s minicamp there were plenty of double-takes fired in Moore’s direction.

"No one really has any expectations, so anything you do is a big plus," Moore said. "I haven’t experienced that since my freshman year in college. Here you make a play and people say, ‘Hey man that’s an unbelievable play,’ and I say, ‘That’s what I always do.’ It’s kind of nice to be the underdog."

In late April, Moore, a Stanford grad, expected to be drafted ... as a wide receiver. Neither happened. Teams were scared off by Moore’s injury history, which included a season-ending dislocated hip and a stress fracture in his foot.

But he’s fully healthy now. Moore said he doesn’t even know where the Packers’ training camp is located. And he’s in a great situation to make a realistic run at a roster spot. Six tight ends are on the Packers’ roster. Other than starter Donald Lee, nobody in the lot possesses better pure receiving skills than the towering 6-foot-6, 240-pound Moore, who also played two years of basketball at Stanford.

Still, it’s been a "big adjustment," Moore admitted. Instead of reading cornerbacks and safeties, Moore is pinpointing linemen and linebackers at the line and blocking behemoths with 50 pounds on him is a major hurdle he’ll cross five weeks from now.

But while Moore is learning a completely new position on-the-fly, basic pass-catching skills are engrained in him. And he expects nothing less.

While his chief competition for the No. 3 tight end job, Tory Humphrey, dropped several intermediate passes during minicamp, Moore was a vacuum. On one play last Wednesday, quarterback Matt Flynn looked left, turned right and hit Evan Moore slicing down the seam for a big gain. Moore caught an identical pass from Brian Brohm the previous day in practice.

"I like to think that’s just a play that I make," Moore said. "They haven't seen that here yet, so they were hyped about it. I’ll relish that role."

Moore started at wideout from the get-go at Stanford. While playing for dismal teams, he was often Trent Edwards’ favorite target. In fact, Moore and the Buffalo Bills’ starting quarterback are "like brothers."

In his ’04 sophomore year with the Cardinal, Moore caught 39 passes for 616 yards and six touchdowns. A hip injury sidelined Moore for all but one game in ’05. He was rendered to a part-time role in ’06 after suffering a stress fracture in his right foot and caught just 14 passes in eight games. But as a senior, Moore returned to form with 39 catches for 481 yards and one TD.

Injuries aren’t an issue anymore and Moore has already caught the eye of Green Bay’s new starting quarterback.

"He’s made some nice plays for us," Aaron Rodgers said. "He’s in a tough spot. He’s got some guys in front of him with a lot of talent, but he just needs to keep making plays and he’ll be where he needs to be."

Rodgers said Moore reminds him of Garrett Cross, who he threw passes to at junior college, the University of California and briefly in minicamps of his rookie season with the Packers.

"(Evan) is a tight end with the same body type that can run and catch like Garrett," Rodgers said. "He’s done a nice job picking it up mentally, and physically he’s got all the tools. His biggest transition – and I’ve seen guys who’ve made position changes like this – is going to be blocking. It’s going to be taking on 270-pound defensive ends who have good leverage."

So there was Moore waiting in line during a simple blocking drill at Tuesday’s practice. The tight ends needed to explode out of their stance and attack the outside "shoulder" of a pad. As the other tight ends waited idly, Moore went through the motions of the drill, simulating his first step out of the stance. Again and again.

Fundamental tight end nuances, such as a three-point stance are foreign to him. The OTAs and minicamp helped, but Moore isn’t an overnight miracle. The potential needs polishing.

"It’s only been three-and-a-half weeks," Moore said. "And while I do have high expectations for myself, I’m not going to be unrealistic and think I can pick this up in a month. It’s going to take a little bit of time to get comfortable doing this kind of stuff."

General manager Ted Thompson constantly preaches that the "best football players" make the team. Number-crunching at each position is rare. Hence, in 2006, four tight ends earned roster spots. Last season? Two. Now with a wide-open field behind Lee, Moore is playing with a "nothing to lose" attitude – a sensation he said he hasn’t felt since his freshman year in college.

Equal opportunity advancement sure is an effective stress-reliever.

Evan Moore
Evan Moore made 39 catches for 481 yards and one
TD as a senior last year at Stanford.

"You try to only focus at what is at hand and that is continuing to learn. But in the back of your mind, yeah, you want to be here all year long,” he said. "So hearing that it’s not all about numbers and that it’s about the players is encouraging. But the only way you’re going to reach that goal is by taking it one day at a time."

When Moore first arrived in Green Bay at the end of the first week of OTAs, he walked into a buzzsaw. Moore didn’t even know what a defensive front was, and he was the last of the six tight ends to join. But now Moore says he’s comfortable with any play or package thrown at him – the product of a "good memory" and that glossy Stanford degree ("That helps a bit," Moore laughed).

The bulk and strength needed at the tight end position is an automatic setback for Moore. He’s 13 pounds less than Humphrey, eight less than third-round pick Jermichael Finley, 27 less than Joey Haynos and 18 less than Mike Peterson.

But as Moore caught an array of passes from Matt Flynn, the same guy he trained with in Florida for two months in preparation for the Combine, it’s obvious that his ticket to the NFL is making plays downfield.

Something as natural as snatching the ball out the air, rather than swallowing it into his stomach.

"That’s something I always take pride in," Moore said. "For some reason that’s something that catches peoples’ eyes."

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This Moore kid made me forget all about Robert Royal, then royal drops an easy first down pass on 3rd to kill a drive and I remembered him.

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Yeah,, I want to see more of Moore, Mour..... See what I did there

In all fairness to Royal, have you ever seen his hands,, his fingers are all knarled up.. it's no wonder he can't catch.. Then add in the weather last night and geez.. so that begs the question, why throw to him.. Let him do what he was brought in to do, Block....

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don't know what the future holds for this young man, but damn, sure nice to see him in a Browns uni

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I suppose that you'll retort with something about leverage and being able to get low, but again, I defer you to Joe Thomas...

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I'd also note that using a left tackle as an example of why a tall guy can block is blanket statement not applicable to Moore.

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By that logic, we could go ahead and move Moore out to left tackle and expect him to make it.

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He's no more a TE than Kellen Winslow is a TE.

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He was a 237 pound receiver in college. He's gained 10 pounds. That's nothing on a 6'7 guy.

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I seriously doubt he has any chance of being a viable blocker.

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It's no worse of a statement that stating that he isn't going to be a good blocker simply because you looked at his height.

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That isn't exactly accurate. Here's what I actually said.

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Obviously, at that height, he isn't going to be a good blocker. In fact, even though he's listed in the 245-range, he's not going to be a very good blocker.

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I suggested that at 245 AND at that height he wouldn't be a good blocker.

Now I can understand the reaction because I didn't include that he has been a receiver his entire life, and thus blocking isn't exactly in his blood.

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No, that's a gross misinterpretation of what I stated and not at all applicable to what I was saying. I'm not the one trying to state that height dictates blocking ability, YOU are.

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Since I was actually talking about overall body-type, the two aren't applicable because clearly Moore isn't built anything like a left tackle.

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250lbs blocking is still 250lbs blocking: Mass is Mass. Ratio to height is irrelevant; he either knows how to use his body or he doesn't.

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I couldn't disagree more.

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That isn't exactly accurate. Here's what I actually said.

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That is entirely accurate, your first sentence stands on its own, the second sentence merely extends what you claim in the first. So, you either mis-communicated your intent extremely poorly, or you are trying to backtrack

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Now I can understand the reaction because I didn't include that he has been a receiver his entire life, and thus blocking isn't exactly in his blood.

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I couldn't disagree more.

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Benard, Jennings, Rubin, Roth, & Massaquai keep their trajectory these last few games perhaps this offseason might be a little simpler.

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Benard, Jennings, Rubin, Roth, & Massaquai keep their trajectory these last few games perhaps this offseason might be a little simpler.

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Now, who is responsible for bringing in these guys? I'd dare to say Mangini, the very same guy you all hate.

Mangini has proved he deserves more time.

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I seriously doubt he has any chance of being a viable blocker.

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Benard, Jennings, Rubin, Roth, & Massaquai keep their trajectory these last few games perhaps this offseason might be a little simpler.

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Now, who is responsible for bringing in these guys? I'd dare to say Mangini, the very same guy you all hate.

Mangini has proved he deserves more time.

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As they say, "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then".

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I understand the (we can still use him in the red zone), I was just wondering why he was a WR in school but was tried at TE. Do you know what his 40 times were?

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hate the "stats" on a guy determining if he's a player or not............40 times, jumping ability, height, weight, bench press, shuttle times.....

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How do you measure heart?

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By the ounce?

To a point, I agree, but after all these years of refinements and tweaking, the concept of the combines and workouts leading to a draft evaluation is a very sophisticated model that is rather successful.

This kid is a TE because the odds say he doesn't have the speed to be an NFL receiver. Guys like Jurevicius run 4.75 in their last years but can get away with it because of experience and savvy. Coming out of college, these players don't have that, so you can't spend a draft pick on them, as you only gain experience and savvy by playing, and can't play if you aren't fast enough to get seperation, etc etc.

So now the kid was told he had to gain some weight and switch positions. For him, it's the best way to stand a chance at making a career out of this, and I for one am thankful because he shows plenty of promise as a TE/3rd down receiver.

Besides, "heart" only gets you so far. Remember Mike Hart of Michigan? Great guy, smart, tons of heart, team leader.............Can't get a sniff of an NFL game because "heart" can only get you so far. He was recently picked back up off the street by the Colts. Furthering that thought, I bet David Veikune has tons of heart, but that won't help his transition to whatever position they are trying to make him into.

I get the "heart" concept, but it only goes so far.

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I wasn't speaking strickly about Moore.. I was making a general statement that you can't measure heart.

Kosar wouldn't be a 1st round pick now a days.. He was gawky, non-mobile, threw sidearm and slow as molassas running.. can you imagine his 40 times

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I don't know...Roethlisburger is pretty slow.....VY throws side-arm.

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