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Thanks Jamal...that needed to be said....
you think anybody on the team cares anymore? This team is dead and Mangini is already a lame duck....congrats
That's what I was asking for....ACCOUNTABILITY.
Just read my sig...
"Art's a great guy." Yeah, that needed to be said.  Jamal says this in Cleveland and you still jump on his wagon? It looks like you'll stoop to anything to make a point.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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man... I wish we had a running game. lol.
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The only real message was a shot at Randy lerner and Browns fans. Look he knows how Modell is viewed here and it wasnt by accident he brought it up. He wants to be released and believes he can find a spot with the Eagles or Jets for a playoff run.
In Jamal's defense can you really blame him for wanting to get released from this sorry --s franchise that Lerner could give two s---s about all the dude cares about is if he's making money and his A.Villa Soccer team. I havent even seen this piece of ... at "1" ... game "EVER". Yeah Moddell stole our real team from us and I hate him for that but I do remember seeing gametime shots of him at every single Browns game and when training camp was held at Lakeland Community College I remember seeing him there on occasion as well. Lerner just dont give a ..., keep putting money in his pocket and this ass will be around longer, once he starts losing money he'll dump this team faster then Enron.
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Does he have that in Kokinis and Mangini? On one hand they've gutted this roster to expansion quality. On the other hand, they've set things up to add so many quality players through FA and the draft in just one off season - if the FA money and draft picks are used wisely. This is the perfect situation for the right people to turn this team around and improve greatly by next season. My fear (and that of a lot of people) is whether or not Kokinis and Mangini can do it. If they do, then we'll look back and say, "Gee, they did have a good plan and executed perfectly." If not, we'll be saying, "How couldn't Lerner have seen that this was going to fail?"
I think what makes it worse, is knowing the talent of coaches available in the upcoming off season. It's very tempting to act not so much because of what our current coach/gm are doing/not doing, but because of the potential of what those other guys COULD do. Do we stay the course and miss out on one of them, or do we act and make sure we get one? Unfortunately, only time will tell whether the decision we make is the right one.
He shoots....HE SCORES!!!! 
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Looks like we're finally going to see Harrison play as our #1 back.
Whatever BQ did to Napoleangini was at least within the confines of the organization. I guarantee this public turd he just dropped is not going to go unpunished.
Makes me really question Lewis' intelligence. I've always thought he was a little light in the smarts department but this is just plain dim witted.
How is this dim witted? The guy made some mistakes in life and has learned from them. He came from an organization where the owner has pride and passion for his team, then he comes here. Im all for a veteran player who has been there and done that to speak his mind. Im sure Bernie and Jim Browns agree with what he is saying. What comments did he say that make him look or sound stupid?
If Mangini benches a vet player that speaks his mind then Mangini has a huge ego problem and FAs will have to be vastly over paid to play for him. If Mangini will never be a consistant winner if he is benching players for trying to step up and be vocal and being a leader. Would you bench Ray Lewis for saying the team needs more big men on the d-line? Ownership didnt and got him Ngata.
I think Lewis sees a team in turmoil that starts at the top of the organization with an owner that likes a profit but has no passion for this team.
I remember going to Lakeland and seeing Modell pull up in his Caddy with the animal horn hood orniments. Yeah we all hate him for getting on Lerners plane and moving the team but the man has passion for his team and players like playing for him. I bet Cribbs would be a little happier playing for Modell because at least he watches the game and would see that the man is underpaid and deserves a raise. he better get some of the $11 million the team is saving for benching Quinn. Players wont come here when they see how the current players are treated with their contracts.
The only thing I question about what Lewis said and noticed nobody else brought it up, is he said "Thats how I run my businesses" I didnt know Lewis was a business man. What successful businesses does he have. I he doesnt even own his own business that would be like a fan saying "Thats how I operate" when they have no say so what so ever in what the team is doing.
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"We have young players and young coaches new in their areas and certain things need to be handled in a different kind of way when it's like that."
Translation... Mangini is a jerk and DaBoll does not know what he is doing.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
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"Art's a great guy."
Translation: "I've lost my skills and don't know WTF I'm talking about"
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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He didn't do to Lewis, or that team, what he did to us. So I can see his appreciation of Modell if all of his experiences of him are positive. Ours have not been so we hate the ....
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But to say "Art's a great guy" to Cleveland fans shows a lot of ignorance.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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DJ -
He took over a bad team, he gets pass on everything, for 2 years, you can't evaluate anything he's done because it was bad team, nothing is his fault. If it wasn't for us being a bad team he would have had a better draft, FA period, and hired better assistants.
How dense are you....accountability is for winning teams only. 
 HA! I needed that. this needs to be some kind of sig please!!
Einstein could not even fathom the mathematical improbabilities of the Browns woes.
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Yes, Jamal I want accountablility to, from yourself.
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wow...is all im going to say here...wow
Lewis is almost going as far as to say this thing is a royal mess...
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Yep, accountability... calling out the team, then annoucing your retirement.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
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Agreed. That's dumb.
Maybe he could do us the favor and retire now. THAT would be accountability.
If a player talks of retiring, he IS retired, at least where it counts the most.
Lewis was a good signing by Savage. Giving him this extra year on his new deal was NOT a good decision.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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