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I fail to see how DA blew this game whatsoever.
Or Mangini for that matter.
Well, Palmer can talk Marvin Lewis to go for a 4th and 10 in OT on the game winning drive. DA might not have that kind of confidence and Mangini dont have the balls or show the trust in his players. To me that was the differance in the game. Mangini is scared to lose a game thinking outside the box. Its not on him if they lose punting on 4th and 2 with momentum. He can just say he dont have the players and they are 'rebuilding' if he loses doing things conventionally.
Also, DA did stare down his WR on that goalline int. I still dont see why plays are being called with the defenders just camping on the routes. I was hoping to see a lob corner pass on the goalline to BE. Everyone can say hindsight but I was calling for it the whole time. Throw it up to where if BE dont catch it, nobody will. Thats the bread and butter for a #1 wideout and I havnt seen it called once.
This team will look alot better when the OC learns from his mistakes and can figure out how to call a redzone attack. I saw it in training camp and he still hasnt found a way to punch it in no matter who is at QB. I do see how Mangini can call it a rebuilding year when the OC is still learning.
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ok....that's it, I think I have come up with the answer. since apparently you cannot be a Cleveland Brown fan without being a SEC-level obsessed fan of a particular QB, we have to differentiate our fanbase somehow because sometimes on this board it seems people would rather be right and see the team lose than wrong and see the team succeed.
A. All hardcore fans of the current starting QB have to wear brown shirts to the games.
B. All hardcore fans of the current backup QB have to wear orange shirts to the games.
C. All fans of the actual team and are willing to cheer for whichever guy lines up under center can wear white or gray shirts.
and, for the record, I agreed with Mangini's decision on starting Quinn at the beginning of the season....but, since the team is playing better with DA, I am cheering for him to do well. I guess I'm just one of those awful bandwagon-player fans that roots for the jerseys instead of the number.
here's my take on how DA played and the current QB-situation:
1. DA played well enough to win but came up short.
2. Yes, he showed his warts in the game, but he also didn't allow them to derail the whle game, which is a good thing. This wasn't "good DA" or "bad DA". This was DA who had a little bit of both mixed in.
3. He may or may not be the long-term answer, but the team sure played like they wanted to show Mangini they think he's the short-term answer.
4. Quinn's career is not over just because DA seized the opportunity that Quinn's ineffectiveness gave to him. Hopefully, he took the first 2.5 games as a learning experience because the odds are that we will need him at some point this season, and I hope he is up for the task.
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U mean YOU don't know if DA is the answer....I ain't included in that little group..U/dong/Phil/Pdawg/Lamp..and whoever else fits that group....U guys keep wondering..keep trying to figure it out..keep hoping..keep trying to analize it..I already knew that he is not ever going to be a long term answer..and I'll keep saying it ...he 's not..
I've said for a very long time that I think Anderson's eventual ceiling is as a back-up QB.
Don't confuse realizing how pitiful BQ was with pimping DA.
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I still dont see why plays are being called with the defenders just camping on the routes. I was hoping to see a lob corner pass on the goalline to BE. Everyone can say hindsight but I was calling for it the whole time
Well I would say something different..I think a different play selection would have been used..I thought they could have used a run or play action again before setting up the throw..Harrison had a LB/DE # 93 on him coming out of the backfield which is the mismatch you want ..
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for whatever reason.. players don't get those "learning experiences" anymore...
Really don't know why.. but every team wants to WIN NOW.. like there is no time to grow/groom a player... especially at QB.
It depends on who the coach is and if the coach feels he has the time to win. Im not saying Lerner is this way but if the coach is showing he knows what he is doing, even in a losing season, and he knows the owner isnt going to pull the rug from underneath him if he doesnt have a winning season. Then the coach can groom the player.
Like Fisher in Tennessee. He groomed McNair for 3 years. Rogers was groomed for 3 years. Peyton Manning got to start every game despite a 3-11 start. Stafford might only win 3 games but he will get every start and not worry if he throws 2 first half ints. that he still be in the game. Tony Romo wasnt even groomed to be the starter. He just waited for his turn for 3-4 years while Bledsoe, Quincy from Georgia, and Drew Hensan didnt pan out.
This is why I hate calling either Quinn or Anderson a bust. Neither QB had a chance to have familiarity with the OC or the players. I dont know if its pressure from the owner or the media.
Butch Davis went with an established QB in Garcia even though the Browns ran a complete differant style offense that Garcia was successful in. The problem was that he was trying to win now. In Pittsburgh, even if Cowher didnt have winning seasons, he stuck with the plan and wasnt worried about losing his job. I guess with the 'win now' thing or developing players, its how the coaches feel about job security from the owners.
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Did u throw mickey under the bus too ???
Mickey was my dog. He was without a doubt, this mans best friend. I work from home so there he was sitting at my feet all day everyday for a lotta years.
You comment isn't funny, was unwarrented, and in the true spirit of a troll, completely out of line.
It's really too bad that folks without taste, class and a sense of right and wrong can't be banned for simply displaying those characteristics on here.. you would without a doubt, be a candidate..
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You're the nicest troll on here!
ok then,,from troll to troll here's to ya.. 
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I still dont see why plays are being called with the defenders just camping on the routes. I was hoping to see a lob corner pass on the goalline to BE. Everyone can say hindsight but I was calling for it the whole time
Well I would say something different..I think a different play selection would have been used..I thought they could have used a run or play action again before setting up the throw..Harrison had a LB/DE # 93 on him coming out of the backfield which is the mismatch you want ..
So do you think DA waited too long to pass the ball? Ive been calling for playaction all season. I wouldnt complain about seeing more of that myself either.
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Did u throw mickey under the bus too ???
Mickey was my dog. He was without a doubt, this mans best friend. I work from home so there he was sitting at my feet all day everyday for a lotta years.
You comment isn't funny, was unwarrented, and in the true spirit of a troll, completely out of line.
It's really too bad that folks without taste, class and a sense of right and wrong can't be banned for simply displaying those characteristics on here.. you would without a doubt, be a candidate..
yup,,, just like you bud asking if we're joined at the hip ????
Darn the bad luck,, some like to dish it out,, but then again some can't take...
I'm sorry you can't take it.....
You made fun of the man's dead dog. You're worse then coachB and that's saying something 
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Did u throw mickey under the bus too ???
Mickey was my dog. He was without a doubt, this mans best friend. I work from home so there he was sitting at my feet all day everyday for a lotta years.
You comment isn't funny, was unwarrented, and in the true spirit of a troll, completely out of line.
It's really too bad that folks without taste, class and a sense of right and wrong can't be banned for simply displaying those characteristics on here.. you would without a doubt, be a candidate..
yup,,, just like you bud asking if we're joined at the hip ????
Darn the bad luck,, some like to dish it out,, but then again some can't take...
I'm sorry you can't take it.....
You made fun of the man's dead dog. You're worse then coachB and that's saying something
maybe u should read all the posts instead of just picking out his quotes...
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oh,,, i forgot troll... nice one too....
Picking fights with established board members is the easiest way to get a one way ticket out of here...
If you ever said that about my dog, I don't think I'd respond with as much decency as Daman did... 
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Blame Mangini? Maybe, I thought they played not to lose.
I agree with you 100%..
When we had the lead we stopped going deep and went back to run run pas punt offense.
This a great point me and a buddy talked about at the end of the game. It seemed that just because the defense is playing good that Magini was satisfied having the defense stop the offense. This has been a problem with most coaches recently in Cleveland. When they have a lead, they let off the gas. You cant give a QB with Palmers ability that many chances to beat you because eventually, if he hasnt done so already, he will. It seems like the only chance the Browns have to win is to play catchup and win on the final drive. But with a more experianced playcaller. When they Browns have a lead, they play too conventional. It dont know if its Mangini is scared to think outside the box to win a game (cant blame the loss on him and he can say its the players in a rebuilding year if he loses calling a conventional game) or if Mangini just doesnt have the killer mentality to put a team away when he has a lead. They had that in Crennel.
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it is not unreasonable to expect a professional to catch under the previous parameters regularly....
As i said, not all of DA's passes were good, there were a few that I am sure he wished he could have back...I am just staing there is atleast 4 balls that were right on the money that were dropped....its unacceptable.....
you can blame DA all you want, but our receivers are just as much to blame as he is....its an even trade between an errant throw, and a throw right on the money that was dropped
Couldn't agree more. I'm a numbers guy so I look at it like this...
DA was 26 for 48... so if we figure there were 4 legit drops.. (is that reasonable?) then that means he threw 30 catchable balls.. dropping 4 is 13%.. that's way too high by percentage.. heck in high school an 87% is a low B.
Similarly, 26 for 48 is 54%... that's too low.. if DA threw 6 inaccurate passes (not sure if that is totally accurate but I bet it's close) when the guy was open, then that is 12.5%... again, that's too high of a miss rate when the receiver is open..
Now if you add them together, you have 4 drops and 6 poor throws.. that's 10 of 48 passes that were incomplete when the receiver was open either because of a drop or an inaccurate throw... that's over 20% of our pass attempts that we can conclude SHOULD have been completed but weren't.....
And just to finish off my numbers, that means 36 of 48 should have been completed if nobody makes a mistake (which I know is unreasonable but given the numbers, I don't think 30 or 31 is unreasonable... then that gives you 12 passes to be batted down at the LOS, thrown to a guy who wasn't really open but you throw it out there hoping he can make a play, throw it away, miscommunication, spike it, etc...
So my conclusion, if the receivers can cut their drops in half, and DA can cut his inaccurate throws in half... this offense would be a hell of a lot more effecient.
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go back and "look" before you leap....you of all people ,,, what is it ???
"what's good for the goose, is good for the gander". ???
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It takes a real lowlife dirtbag to make fun of someone's deceased best friend on a football forum.
I rarely agree with Daman on anything, but you crossed the scumline on this one.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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go back and "look" before you leap....you of all people ,,, what is it ???
"what's good for the goose, is good for the gander". ???
I can go back and look all I want. At no point did he accuse you of killing a family pet  
That might be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen.
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oh,,, i forgot troll... nice one too....
Picking fights with established board members is the easiest way to get a one way ticket out of here...
If you ever said that about my dog, I don't think I'd respond with as much decency as Daman did...
Don't worry about it Ammo this guy won't be around much longer anyways
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U mean YOU don't know if DA is the answer....I ain't included in that little group..U/dong/Phil/Pdawg/Lamp..and whoever else fits that group....U guys keep wondering..keep trying to figure it out..keep hoping..keep trying to analize it..I already knew that he is not ever going to be a long term answer..and I'll keep saying it ...he 's not..
How about you take some reading comprehension courses..Just because I don't feel the need to make crap up (like you) about how bad someone plays doesn't mean I'm not sure about them. I am quite sure that DA is destined to be a backup in this league.
It cracks me up to see how condescending you are. You really are a nobody. i read what you have to say and I swear you think you are really all knowing.
The difference between people like you and people like me is that I don't have to put on an act to hide my lack of knowledge. I can readily admit when i don't know something. All your bravado makes me think you have some serious issues. Don't worry, they make pills for that.
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figures of all the things I put in that post, that line is what is taken 
and to me, there's no question that SEC fans on a whole care more about the outcome of each Saturday than any other conference's fans....there's good and bad in that though 
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Did u throw mickey under the bus too ??? 
Why don't you grow the hell up?
That post just proves one thing: you act like a jerk.
I've seen it in your posts concerning this team, and you finalized for me with that post.
And daman and I don't see eye to eye on much other than we agree to disagree.
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I will chalk the Royal pass up to the fact that Royal, in his time here, has probably NEVER come out of his break and had the ball right there like that. I honestly don't know if he got his head around quickly enough or not... The way it looked to me, DA should have waited another half second to throw the ball.. regardless, it was a good throw, I just think it was a hair early....
Bernie Kosar used to consistently throw to spots, on time, often before the receiver came out of his break. The receivers caught the ball. That's actually the way guys like Manning do it today as well.
Now I can understand if you mean that the other guy didn't do that ... and thus Royals wasn't used to it ... but that doesn't make it the QB's fault if the receiver doesn't catch it. It is something that Anderson had never done in the past ..... so I look at a play like that, potentially, as a sign of progress on his part. Frankly, I hope that he can continue to make decisions and plays like that .. because, if he can, it will be a huge step in his development.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Bernie Kosar used to consistently throw to spots, on time, often before the receiver came out of his break. The receivers caught the ball. That's actually the way guys like Manning do it today as well.
Now I can understand if you mean that the other guy didn't do that ... and thus Royals wasn't used to it ... but that doesn't make it the QB's fault if the receiver doesn't catch it.
I fully understand that. It is also possible to throw it to the right spot, but throw it too soon or so hard that it gets there too soon. I've already said, I think it was a real good throw with great anticipation of him coming out of his break, but either DA threw it a second too soon or Royal needs to get his head around faster and get his hands up.... I don't know which. It's a timing thing that just needs to be worked on between QB and receivers...
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It is something that Anderson had never done in the past ..... so I look at a play like that, potentially, as a sign of progress on his part. Frankly, I hope that he can continue to make decisions and plays like that .. because, if he can, it will be a huge step in his development.
Me too brother. I'm used to DA waiting for guys to come open, then throwing it 100 miles an hour to try to get it through coverage as it closed up. I see this as progress too.. He just needs to work on the fact that if you are going to throw it to a spot while the receiver is still coming out of his break, that you don't need to throw it 100 mph... 
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I see this as progress too
Does this mean he's NOT a finished product as some would say?
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I see this as progress too
Does this mean he's NOT a finished product as some would say?
One sign that he may not be a finished product is that he showed the ability to check into good plays that gave him the ability to succeed.
I don't know if that's because Chud never let him, or if he really has improved in that aspect.
But if DA can read the D pre-snap and check into plays he likes, that could be a big sign of progress.
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Don't confuse realizing how pitiful BQ was with pimping DA. I don't confuse anything..your stance at pimping DA and trying to make him some HOF QB is what is confusing... Legalizewd ... He set himself up by not looking off...he could have looked on the other side immediately which sets up the play going on the opposite side..he had some choices.. Pdawg... How about you take some reading comprehension courses..Just because I don't feel the need to make crap up (like you) about how bad someone plays doesn't mean I'm not sure about them. I am quite sure that DA is destined to be a backup in this league.
Ohhhh ..guess that got your attention...uuuuuhhhh...my...oh tell me what I make up?
What that I know what type of QB DA is??
What I see him do..that the best you can do?
I lay it out as I see it.. It cracks me up to see how condescending you are. You really are a nobody. i read what you have to say and I swear you think you are really all knowing.
The difference between people like you and people like me is that I don't have to put on an act to hide my lack of knowledge. I can readily admit when i don't know something. All your bravado makes me think you have some serious issues. Don't worry, they make pills for that.
Sounds more like you have a tiff with Diam
U comment on things you don't know..why speak on it now?
I always say doesn't bother me what certain people in here think about me....when you want to challenge me..it's on..U just don't understand something...unlike U and the other people (who get their posts deleted) I don't get angry..I get others unnerved...and I see U unraveling at the seams right now..
Funny I got a PM froma respected poster who is pretty much tired and discouraged over a particular group of posters (U included  ) who as he said, can't talk much sense to and he was tired of posting..it's also why some have left...I told him to not let his emotions come into play..just post and leave it at that..
Sooo get upset.. I really really don't care.. but I sure as heck won't stop posting what I think and know to be true..don't like it, ya don't have ta read it..Ya certainly don't have to respond to me..I don't lose any sleep over anyone in here.
Too much BS thats been spit out in these forums for too long..some in here just post any ole thing and expect it's suppose to wash over ..GMAB..A LOT OF IT is nonsense and you know it...U think I'm just gonna sit back and not say sumptin?
So once more ,tell me what I made up..or forever hold your peace...
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Whew,, I was getting worried that you didn't like me anymore.. I had to read halfway down to find some reference to me
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What makes you think I do like U? U might find this hard to believe but I don't hate anyone on this board at all..I actually take U and others with a grain of salt..oh I don't use salt..
But I would have liked to seen what got your posts deleted..
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I see this as progress too
Does this mean he's NOT a finished product as some would say?
One sign that he may not be a finished product is that he showed the ability to check into good plays that gave him the ability to succeed.
I don't know if that's because Chud never let him, or if he really has improved in that aspect.
But if DA can read the D pre-snap and check into plays he likes, that could be a big sign of progress.
That was my big problem with DA on Sunday. He didn't check off to a pass on a number of times, and ran Harrison right into the blitz
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That was one observation that has been made about him..he doesn't check down enough..he is slow to do it because he wants to unload the ball and get it there.
Once he looks downfield DB;s pretty much know he's going.
He's got to improve that presnap read.
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What makes you think I do like U?
that's just swell
I'm not sure what I said exactly that got my posts deleted,, I don't even want to speculate on here.. I'll PM you and tell you what I THINK it was... You will get a kick out of it I think
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“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
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Ohhhh ..guess that got your attention...uuuuuhhhh...my...oh tell me what I make up?
What that I know what type of QB DA is??
What I see him do..that the best you can do?
I lay it out as I see it..
Yeah, it got my attention when I read someone elses quote of you.
As far as making things up..
I could go back and read some of your posts to point examples but I don't really care to prove my point. You did blame DA for costing us seven points on the pick..That was made up. Actually made up is probably the wrong phrase.. laying things out as facts which aren't is more like it... You said it was a certainty that we would have got a TD. That's BS. You tried to turn it around on me which was pretty weak considering I never defended him on that play.
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What that I know what type of QB DA is??
Since my opinion of him isn't far from yours I don't see why I would care. I only stand up for him and Quinn from what I see as unwarranted attacks. People on here (I'm not talking about you right now) spew the same old things over and over regardless if it happened or not. DA is not the same QB as he was in 07 (where I spoke out against him when most were praising him) or last year for that matter. He has improved in a lot of areas. He had trouble throwing the balls to backs on outlet throws...He has improved quite a bit on this. He has cut down on his stupid mistakes...He has done a better job of checking down.. The problem is he was completely awful in these areas so some growth is not close to being enough. One thing that he still doesn't seem to get is reading defenses. If you can't do that it doesn't matter how much he may improved in other areas. DA will never be a successful starter in this league. He can be a viable backup for someone, just not us.
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Sounds more like you have a tiff with Diam
No, just Diam wannabes.
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U comment on things you don't know..why speak on it now?
What are you trying to say. 
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I always say doesn't bother me what certain people in here think about me....when you want to challenge me..it's on..U just don't understand something...unlike U and the other people (who get their posts deleted) I don't get angry..I get others unnerved...and I see U unraveling at the seams right now..
posting..it's also why some have left...
Not unraveled at all. You lumped me in a group that i am not a part of. Your recent comments to me when i was trying to have a reasonable discussion were condescending so I told you. Instead of whining in pms I said it publicly. You're a big boy, I know you can take it.
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Too much BS thats been spit out in these forums for too long..some in here just post any ole thing and expect it's suppose to wash over ..GMAB..A LOT OF IT is nonsense and you know it...
That is true and is the reason I do not come here that often.
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Funny I got a PM froma respected poster who is pretty much tired and discouraged over a particular group of posters (U included ) who as he said, can't talk much sense to and he was tired of posting..it's also why some have left...I told him to not let his emotions come into play..just post and leave it at that..
Whoever it is they are entitled to their opinion.
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U think I'm just gonna sit back and not say sumptin?
When you try and bring me into things I will respond as well.
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