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Getting Shaq and only giving up Wallace and Sasha in the deal seems like a good trade to me. However we are giving up our two best trade pieces in this deal, so Ferry better make sure there isn't something else better out there to be had. Overall though I am a fan of this and I do think it helps our team. That being said not sure I want to put up with Shaq and his ego while here in Cleveland.
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There was just something on ABC that Shaq is being traded here for Wallace and Pavlovic. Is there enough "room" for Shaq and James?
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Getting Shaq and only giving up Wallace and Sasha in the deal seems like a good trade to me. However we are giving up our two best trade pieces in this deal, so Ferry better make sure there isn't something else better out there to be had. Overall though I am a fan of this and I do think it helps our team. That being said not sure I want to put up with Shaq and his ego while here in Cleveland.
Kind of agree with the "Ferry better make sure there isn't something else better out there to be had." This kinda smacks of desperation although giving up Wallace & Sasha is essentially giving up nothing.
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After the Orlando series I wouldn't be opposed to this. I was totally against this deal back in February.
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[quote This kinda smacks of desperation although giving up Wallace & Sasha is essentially giving up nothing.
Maybe on the court it is giving up nothing,but in the grand scehme of things it is giving up a lot. mainly Big Bens huge expiring contract that could be used during the season as trade bait.
With that said though, I would make this deal. Shaq and Bron will be just fine together. Bron has a ego but it is not bad in a way like Kobes is.
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Shaq would be huge. He isn't what he used to be, but he hasn't lost his size and the demand for his prescense in the paint. Having Shaq would free so much space up for The King, and Shaq is capable of guarding Howard and KG. Coming to Cleveland might restore some of the fight in him too to get another 'ship while going up against his hated rival in Howard.
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if he dedicates himself, gets into shape, buys into our system... i like it.
especially considering it won't hurt 2010 one bit.
the fact that this comes out now and not 3 or 4 weeks from now tells me this may just be more of the cavs just putting themselves in the limelight during the finals...
similiar to the non-story of brown getting fired and riley being brought on...
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Honestly this deal just further shows how far Cleveland basketball has come. 6-7 years ago If you would have told me that Shaq would ever suit up in a Cleveland uniform I would have laughed in your face.
I love the deal if it go's through, Shaq has always been one of my favorite players. I've still got one of his very first rookie cards that is a two card thing with the official traded stamp on it and everything.
I also hope we can bring in Al Harrington, I think he is going to be a free agent or has an early termination option.
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the thing is, if we get shaq, that means z goes to the bench unless shaq wants to be the 6th man...
you can't have z and shaq out there at the same time, teams will run all over us...
and what happens with andy? who starts at the 4?
tons of questions if this deal goes through.
but yeah, this move will spark so much excitement with the organization and the fans...
i think all the talk of him kinda bagging on dwight howard a little bit maybe is him sayin he's not done...
i just worry about the fact that he needed nights off a year ago. what happens when we get to the playoffs? when you're playing more with less days between?
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Shaq is past his prime..
but his presence on the floor could bring a championship to Cleveland. The East is not that competitive...
The only teams the Cavs have to compete against are the Celtics and Magic.
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Shaq is past his prime..
but his presence on the floor could bring a championship to Cleveland. The East is not that competitive...
The only teams the Cavs have to compete against are the Celtics and Magic.
No kidding??
We wouldn't be rumored to get him for Wallace and Sasha if he was in his prime..
It isn't like those guys are any good.
It would be dumb to not make this trade.
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I think first we need to wait and see if Wallace is going to retire....
a wallace retirement might do much more good for us than Shaq: if wallace retires we'd currently have:
Gibson $3.7 million
Hickson $1.3 million
Ilgausksas $12 million
Jackson $450,000
Lebron $15 million
Kinsey $800,000
Pavlovic $4.5 million
West $4 million
Williams $8.5 million
For a total team salary of $50.25 million, which is under the cap by about $8 million or so.
Now, we'd eat up the rest of our cap space by resigning Varejao, but we could do something like this:
Resign Varejao at 4 years $32 million
Sign Rasheed Wallace at the MLE
Sign and Trade Pavlovic and Hickson + firsts (Pavlovic's contract is very tradable because he is only guarenteed $2 million of the $4.5 million dollar deal) for a Chris Kaman or maybe an Andrew Bogut type.
We really need to rework our starting frontcourt, getting at least one younger player to go alongside varejao long term...shaq doesn't accomplish that.
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i just worry about the fact that he needed nights off a year ago. what happens when we get to the playoffs? when you're playing more with less days between?
He started 75 games last season.
The way I see it, the Cavs won 66 regular season games with garbage at the 4 and 5. I love Z as much as the next guy, but he's not fooling anybody into thinking he's a threat, and he's only good for 25 minutes a game. A dominant big is the obvious missing piece for the Cavs, and at 37 years old Shaq put up 17.8 ppg and 8.4 rpg, and he was going for 30 minutes a night. If he could give us 25 minutes a night with 10 points and put a body on the opposing big man (as opposed to Z's soft defense), I would take that in a heartbeat. He never was, and is especially not now, built to play on a speed team like what Phoenix wants to be. I could picture Lebron finding him wide open with his excellent passing ability for some easy dunks all game long.
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Boston and Orlando (and even LA) don't want to see LeBron and Shaq (albeit a 37 year old Shaq) on the same floor playing together. We had the best record in the league this past year, we could be even better if we upgrade our front court with a Shaq and maybe a Rasheed Wallace. Having those two and then resigning Varajeo would really balance out the supporting cast around LeBron I think.
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I thought we were currently $29 million over the cap?
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Shaq is past his prime..
but his presence on the floor could bring a championship to Cleveland. The East is not that competitive...
The only teams the Cavs have to compete against are the Celtics and Magic.
Shaq past his prime is still the best low post scorer we've ever seen in a Cavaliers Jersey.
I do this trade every day and twice on Sunday. Not only that, but Shaq is still an expiring deal, so if he doesn't work out here, you still have a 20 Mill trading chip for this year.
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I thought we were currently $29 million over the cap?
This Chinese group of ownership will be willing to pay luxury tax.
I guess it boils down to whether youd like to see Sheed or Shaq for a year.
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I thought we were currently $29 million over the cap?
we are, which is why we are pretty much limited to the mle for the free agency period. however trading for shaq's huge deal would just be contracts for contracts. the money has to match up so i don't think we need to worry about the cap
not to mention dan gilbert has said several times he doesn't care about the luxury tax...
shaq, if healthy, if commited, if in shape... commands double teams...
lebron james, commands double teams, sometimes triple teams.
considering we were 2nd in the league in 3 point shooting, that bodes well.
i think the personalities would mesh together fine. i don't think lebron is that alpha dog that kobe wants to be. i think he'd welcome shaq with open arms...
if you remember earlier in the season, lebron said this team is comprised of all class clowns, so shaq fits right in, because he's pretty much a fun loving guy.
i don't know if he's a final piece, but if ben wallace is truly considering retirement or coming back and only able to give us 15 minutes a night, i think this deal is a must for the cavs. it is a lose/lose, low risk/high reward type of move. plus you don't have to give up any of your young guys like hickson or boobie or d block...
it doesn't touch 2010, in fact it would help it a little bit by taking sasha off the payroll as well.
and when 2010 comes, you have 30-31 million coming between your 2 big guys in shaq and z
i hope it happens. but i think the timing is kind of weird, because i don't think this trade can be made until july 1? i'm unsure of that, does someone know when u can start making trades? right after the season starts or when free agency opens?
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I think they can make trades anytime. Jason Kapono was traded from the Raptors to the Sixers this week...
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The way I see it, we need 2 or 3 "bigs", and a backup (or better) PG.
Charlie Villanueva is an option. The Buck's have already said they will not go over the cap to match a deal for him. He also has said that he'd love to play in Cleveland with LeBron.
Shaq is an option. I just don't see how Shaq, Z, and Varajeo all co-exist on the same team. (If we can re-sign Varajeo)
Trading for Shaq could allow us to trade Z. (Might even mandate it) Would Shaq and Varajeo be better than Z and Varajeo? I don't know.
We could make a move for Rasheed Wallace. He'd definitely be a presence.
I think we need a true backup PG. Maybe a guy like Anthony Carter?
We could also probably use a situational big guard.
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Highly doubt we trade Z...I believe he's only got one year left.
I'd guess we get him off the books, hang his jersey from the rafters and give him a job within the organization.
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Highly doubt we trade Z...I believe he's only got one year left.
I'd guess we get him off the books, hang his jersey from the rafters and give him a job within the organization.
i think so to, although, you have his contract in your back pocket if there is a deal around deadline time that is too good to pass up...
i'd rather let him play out his deal, let him either retire, or play the free agency, or take a smaller role with the cavs for smaller money...
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and what happens with andy? who starts at the 4?
I don't think Andy will be back next season. I think he is going to test the market. If we don't re-sign him, I buy a draft pick at around 19 and draft Tyler Hansbrough. I actually think he would be an upgrade over Andy.
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I don't think Andy will be back next season. I think he is going to test the market. If we don't re-sign him, I buy a draft pick at around 19 and draft Tyler Hansbrough. I actually think he would be an upgrade over Andy.
i go back and forth on andy, i think anything can happen.
on one hand, i'm sure he may find a deal somewhere else although it is limited with the teams that have space...
on the other hand, maybe he knows where his bread is buttered, and he is definitely one of the guys on the cavs that benefits from lebron james.... he may struggle and look really bad on a lot of other teams in the league.
i wouldn't be against drafting hansbrough. i don't know if he's for sure gonna be a good player, but i think the risk of that draft pick would not be a high one.
i'm interested in what ferry has planned...
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We're one of the slowest-paced teams in the league anyway. Shaq wouldn't slow us down anymore than Z does. Shaq would fit much better in Cleveland. He'd be just what we need for one year to hopefully win a championship, and then he'll be gone and we'll have enough cap space to sign whoever we sign.
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What worries me is that Brown will over do shap in the regular season. We do not need Shap in the regular season but if we are to advance through the playoffs we need that inside presence on O and D which Shaq can provide but not if he plays in 80 games.
I would really limit Shaqs regular season time so that he is fresh for the playoffs when we need him. Just play him enough so that the team is accostumed to how to play with him in the game.
I just don't think our coach can control himself. I think Brown would over play Shaq in the regular season and wear him out before playoff time.
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I agree ... Shaq and Z would work, as both don't really need to be full-time starters to be happy, and we could use them both situationally. Shaq when we need an inside precense ... Z when we need a finesse game. I think it would be a great one-two punch. I'd say, Andy stays at the 4 ... who backs him up is the bigger question.
You're basically upgrading an old Ben Wallace, with an old Shaq ... who's going to provide bigger inside muscle against teams with big front courts. We won 66 games, and were still VERY close with the team we had last year. I think Shaq covers the one BIG hole we had on last years team, where we couldn't counter big front courts, and we basically give up nothing.
Not sure why Phoenix would do this trade, unless they want Ben to retire now, and take that added cap space this year instead of next. Shaq for Ben is pretty much a large expiring deal for a large expiring deal ... plus Sasha. What exactly is PHX getting out of this? I'd do that deal in a heart beat if I'm Cleveland.
The only other hole we would have would be a "bigger"/better perimeter defender ... although if Shaq stays healthy, I'd say that would be enough to get past Orlando and probably LA. We' have the MLE left to pick up someone else. (Joe Smith again?) We also lose Wally this year to Free Agency, but it's not exactly a huge loss. We really only need a decent backup, roll-playing, defensive PF/SF or two.
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j/c Didnt read all the post's so dont know if this was mentioned but, what do you all think about bringing in Chris Bosh? Just wanted to ask 
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Didnt read all the post's so dont know if this was mentioned but, what do you all think about bringing in Chris Bosh?
Just wanted to ask
i think we all want it to happen, but i think we will have to wait.
and just like i say with lebron, you have to say for bosh, the money that toronto can pay him will be tough to pass up.
although i think there is a much better chance of bosh leaving toronto than lebron leaving cleveland...
the cavs are relevant not only because they have lebron, but because they're good with him. the raptors have done nothing since drafting bosh.
i would love to see him in the wine and gold but i think it will be very tough.
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Didnt read all the post's so dont know if this was mentioned but, what do you all think about bringing in Chris Bosh?
Just wanted to ask
To me, the jury is still out on Chris Bosh. I think he has a lot of potential and upside, but I don't think he can be the defensive presence we need inside. To me he's kind of soft. We've got enough soft big men. I'll wait to see how he plays next year.
As far as Shaq...there's no way I wouldn't take this deal. I'd do it NOW, before Phoenix comes to their senses. Z NEEDS to come of the bench, but can rotate starts with Shaq so neither are worn down. If Andy stays, he starts at the 4, with Hickson and Jackson backing him up. Situationally, Andy can slide down to 5, and Hickson or Jackson can play the 4 when we need to speed up the game. I would love to bring in another big 3 or 2 (probably 2 so we can have a taller perimeter defender) if we can.
This move can set us up to snatch a ring this coming season, and still wipe the books clean in 2010. I seriously hope we can pull this off, but the Clevelander in my doubts it will happen. Hopefully, I can be wrong this time.
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I totally agree with your assessment, except that I have the reservation that "just Shaq alone" will not get this done,...mostly a judgemental remark based on how well the Lakers destroyed Orlando. Of course they have neither a Kobe nor a LeBron. Hate to give up on Pav's but he's had his time, and Wallace is OTH. A good deal for Cleveland--PULL IT OFF NOW !!
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windy was on rizzo earlier and said he thinks the cavs will make 2 trades this summer, one of them being major...
he wouldn't name any names, but i think he knows more than he's saying... although tipping the hand of the cavs may not be a great idea, right now.
he mentioned look for a possible sign and trade as well...
i think we sit and wait. and i think the shaq thing may not be this major deal that windy is talking about.
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I thought we were interested in Chandler as well,...wouldn't a player like that make more sense for the long term?
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first....I've seen it mentioned a few times here incorrectly...we need to understand that if Ben Wallace retires, his $$$ does not come off the cap. we might save money from him taking a buyout, but the cap-charge remains the same.
ok.....as long as we are talking about teams willing to just slash payroll and take a collective dump on their fans.....why not talk about the Clippers?
what if Sterling really wants to save $$$ and get out from under 2 huge contracts for a team that isn't competing for the playoffs.....even better, this trade will get them under the salary cap (bonus $2.5mil for teams from the NBA for being under the cap).
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1st round pick '09 and '11
Clippers $$$ savings ~= $2.5mil (bonus for being under cap) + $1.5mil (less money brought in) + $3mil (savings from cutting Sasha's non-guaranteed portion) + unspecified $$ from getting a Ben Wallace buyout (probably $2mil or so?)
so roughly $9mil this season
.....and they are out from Kaman (3 more years) and Baron (4 more years)....biggest risk for the Cavs is that we are tied in with this team, so it better work.
Have to throw the 1st rounders in there to at least pretend to their fans this is more than a salary dump. Baron is one of my favorite players when he actually cares (he did give up on Dunleavy last year), Kaman isn't my favorite player (I think he's overrated and couldn't handle Dwight much better than we did), but he improves our frontline and our team would be improved.
PG: Baron, Mo
SG: Delonte, Gibson
SF: LeBron, ??? (Sasha/Kinsey - though Kinsey is too small for SF)
PF: AV, Hickson, Darnell
C: Z, Kaman
And yes, I love Mo off the bench in this mode because he is a much better scorer than Delonte and we need our bench to give us points. Same reason for Kaman off the bench...he gets more points than Z at this point in his career.
Also, at that point we just really need to find a better backup to LeBron.
Just dreaming here on the Cavs getting a ridiculous deal.....and hey, Kaman and Baron rumors have both floated around out there already.
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I thought we were interested in Chandler as well,...wouldn't a player like that make more sense for the long term?
i don't know if we are interested in him. i am, because i think he'd be a solid guy to have if you have another good pf...
chandler can't score a ton, but he can play in the paint, he's a great shot blocker, as well as a rebounder. he's a defensive presence...
as far as trading for baron davis, i think if you trade for a guard, we should be getting back a big physical one... we have 3 point guards on this team if you count lebron. mo and delonte can both play the position. we need that big guy who can harass other team's good perimeter players.
i wouldn't be against baron, but i just worry about health, age, and motivation. as well as all the money he is owed...
i think the clips are gonna want to get rid of a big though, especially with blake griffin on the verge of coming to town. they are going to be back loaded.
camby is in the last year of a deal. maybe they reopen those talks... who knows...
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I'd much rather have Camby than Kaman. And Baron Davis doesn't really add anything to this team but another PG. We need a solid inside defender, and possibly a bigger perimeter defender. Our problem this year wasn't scoring ... it was matching up against teams with a strong front court or could shoot the three well. Pretty much everything Orlando was. I think we would of matched up against the Lakers much better than they did.
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What about a deal (maybe S & T with AV plus other parts) that would snag both Chandler and Posey out of New Orlelans? Kill our two needs with one stone?
Not sure how that would work though, as N.O. would have to start West and AV as their bigs... I have a feeling AV might be a decent fit in N.O... Much like he gets his cause of LB here, he would get his cause of CP3 there...
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What about a deal (maybe S & T with AV plus other parts) that would snag both Chandler and Posey out of New Orlelans? Kill our two needs with one stone?
Not sure how that would work though, as N.O. would have to start West and AV as their bigs... I have a feeling AV might be a decent fit in N.O... Much like he gets his cause of LB here, he would get his cause of CP3 there...
that would maybe destroy any of our 2010 chances. although if you are playing with the fact that lbj may be gone, you may take that chance.
that's a tough one.
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I'd much rather have Camby than Kaman. And Baron Davis doesn't really add anything to this team but another PG. We need a solid inside defender, and possibly a bigger perimeter defender.
Clippers wouldn't give away an expiring contract if they are trying to save money though, so Camby is probably staying put.
Baron is a bigger, stronger perimeter defender. He might not be taller, but he is incredibly strong and has a stout base. The problem as I and LBJ here mentioned is that he needs to be properly motivated (hopefully being on a team with LeBron fighting for a championship would do that but no guarantees).
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