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Administration: Highway fund to go broke in August
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration is warning lawmakers that the trust fund that pays for highway construction will go broke in August unless Congress approves an infusion of as much as $7 billion.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said at a hearing the administration has told senators the Federal Highway Trust Fund will need an estimated $5 billion to $7 billion to keep current construction projects going.
The California Democrat said another $8 billion to $10 billion will be needed to keep the fund solvent through the year ending Sept. 30, 2010.
Transportation Department spokeswoman Jill Zuckman confirmed those figures.
"The administration is working closely with Congress to solve this difficult problem and ensure that states have the resources they need to maintain our roads and highways," Zuckman said.
A decline in driving that began in late 2007 has reduced federal gas tax revenue, the primary source of trust fund dollars.
The trust fund is separate from the $48 billion in transportation projects included in the economic recovery law enacted by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama earlier this year.
Congress approved an emergency transfer of $8 billion in general treasury dollars last fall to make up a projected shortfall — the first time in the history of the program that had happened. The fund dates back to creation of the federal interstate highway program in 1956.
Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, said it's clear that Congress must raise the federal gas tax, which is now 18.4 cents per gallon.
"I know that doesn't go down so well with some folks," but it's "the reality of the situation," Voinovich said at the hearing, which was on Obama's nomination of former Arizona highways director Victor Mendez to head the Federal Highway Administration.
"That will be one of my highest priorities, to get on that very quickly," Mendez said of the trust fund.
The law that authorizes federal highway programs is due to expire at the end of September, but the issue hasn't been on Congress' frontburner. There is a consensus among transportation experts and lawmakers that there will have to be some form of a tax increase — always unpopular, but especially so in a recession — to make up for the lower gas tax revenues and to address a backlog of crumbling and congested highways, bridges and public transit systems.
Two congressionally mandated commissions have called for an immediate increase in the gas tax. The first commission, which issued its report in early 2008, recommended a 40-cent per gallon hike. The second panel, which issued its report earlier this year, recommended the tax be increased 10 cents per gallon for gas and 15 cents per gallon for diesel, and that both be indexed to inflation.
The two panels also said fuel taxes are not a sustainable source of revenue over the long term as drivers shift to more fuel efficient vehicles. Both panels recommended Congress find a new revenue source to pay for highway and transit programs.
Their top recommendation was to tax motorists based on how many miles they drive. That would require equipping cars and trucks with devices that use GPS technology to record not only how many miles the vehicle was driven, but whether the driving took place on interstate highways or secondary roads and whether it was during peak travel periods. The device would calculate the amount of tax owed and the bill could be downloaded.
A mileage-based tax system would take about 10 years to implement.


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Seriously, come on now. How about this government take a pay cut, or this government look at other social programs that are inept to pay for the highways. Or better yet, each state start putting tolls up to pay for construction. Increasing and creating yet another tax is not the answer. GPS on my car to monitor how many miles I drive? BS! What happens when there is a malfunction and someone is over billed for their actual mileage?

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Doesn't the gov't know we the taxpayers are broke?

Does the gov't. insist on raising taxes on everything?

Hold on to your hats, folks, or the gov't. will take those as well. Just wait till all the cities have to re-do their sewer lines.......I believe it is Ft. Wayne, IN that just notified their water customers that rates will double in the next 3 years or so.

Gov't. from the local level, to county, to state, to federal - they all want more money. And meanwhile, the pool of payers shrinks. So they ratchet up the taxes even more.

It's out of hand. Gov't. needs to cut 10% a year for the next 5 years.

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Mileage driven taxes would kill me.

I drive about 45k miles per year on the low end. Since most of it is for business I would hope I could deduct the tax through itemization, but who knows.


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Wasn't some of the 787 billion for highway construction and improvements?


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Wasn't some of the 787 billion for highway construction and improvements?




Yup, the "shovel ready" jobs. But I'm sure "this is different", and "we really need the gas tax raised, or more police will be layed off, more firemen will be layed off, AND, we'll have to close roads and bridges UNLESS we get more money".

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NO DON"T DO IT. Didn't you hear their is now a one dollar tax everytime you hold onto your hat


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I can no longer AFFORD a hat that's worth holding on to.

Just wait until the $0.50 per flush tax hits... Then we'll all be LITERALLY flushing money down the crapper.

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Change we can believe in?

I had liberals shoving in my face how Obama gave us a tax cut on our pay checks. Yup, and where is that money going? More taxes on other things.


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Revolution.


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I can no longer AFFORD a hat that's worth holding on to.

Just wait until the $0.50 per flush tax hits... Then we'll all be LITERALLY flushing money down the crapper.




Oh crap there goes another $1,580, 928.50 out of my pocket every year


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Wasn't some of the 787 billion for highway construction and improvements?




Sure was. Obama harping on the broken infrastructure. He even praised China at one point during the Olympics, saying what a great job they were doing on their infrastructure. Much of it will be spent on assinine studies on impact to some rodent or insect. Then they will have a couple projects being done around the next elections and the in the bag media will hype them for political use by his party.

When will people wise up and realize that the guy is a liar. He says one thing and does another. They gave all that money to GM and Chrysler knowing full well that they would still go bankrupt. It was clear payoff to the union bosses that got him elected. It was all part of his plan to nationalize anything he can get his hands on.

Now GM will make cars nobody wants. Watch gas prices, I'll bet they retun to over $4 a gallon. They will make sure that they can create a reason to force people to do what they feel is right. Can't waste a crisis.

I read a story the other day about dealerships closing by force. The funny thing was how they were chosen. It didn't come right out and say it, but it implied that many that were closed were owned by people or groups that backed the Republican party. They will use this same tactic on radio stations and newspapers. Congress at this very moment is in the process of forcing "local" programming (not sure if that's the right term). This is a back handed way of determining who gets a license. Some are even calling for making newspapers "non-profits". This is a way to control the media.

I don't need anybody...coughPhilcough...trying to convince me that I'm wrong about these political manipulations, I see and read enough to know what's happening. Totalitarian, communist, even facist, call him what you want, he fits all the molds.

What this no good marxist is doing to this country is a shame. And the youth and lemmings that fall for his BS are the blame. Everything he wants is done using doom and gloom tactics.

A revolution? We should be so lucky.


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I can no longer AFFORD a hat that's worth holding on to.

Just wait until the $0.50 per flush tax hits... Then we'll all be LITERALLY flushing money down the crapper.




Oh crap there goes another $1,580, 928.50 out of my pocket every year




A half grab?


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I don't need anybody...coughPhilcough...trying to convince me that I'm wrong about these political manipulations, I see and read enough to know what's happening. Totalitarian, communist, even facist, call him what you want, he fits all the molds.




Marxist? Nah.

Totalitarian? Not even close.

Communist? Laughable.

Fascist? In a traditional sense, yes (although the word has taken on a whole different meaning post-WWII).

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Revolution.




Really my friend, where do I sign up???

You may be kidding, but I am not.

This guy is trying to crash this country.


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Really my friend, where do I sign up???

You may be kidding, but I am not.

This guy is trying to crash this country.




And he's doing an admirable job of it too!


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Once we were a nation of doers. We were a nation based on accomplishment and hard work. I'm not saying that there weren't idle rich .... but this country created a lot of self made millionaires along the way, and had people who worked 70+ hours per week to acheive their American Dream.

Now we are a nation of complainers and "Gimme NOW!!!!" We are a nation with a large percentage of the population wants at the expense of others .... rather than by the sweat of their own brows. We are a nation set at odds between those who produce, and those who do not ... and frankly do not, and will not, even make an effort to do so.

It would seem that a war between the 2 sides would be rather short and 1 sided ..... because most of the unproductive leaches wouldn't even bother to fight on their own behalf .... they would wait for someone else to do so for them.


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Really my friend, where do I sign up???

You may be kidding, but I am not.

This guy is trying to crash this country.




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I've been game for revolution since we twice elected a man whose intelligence barely hovers above mentally retarded.

Won't happen, though. Too many distractions and luxuries. People don't revolt unless their backs are against the wall...and as longs as we have malls and T.V. and such...our backs are comfortably cushioned.

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because most of the unproductive leaches wouldn't even bother to fight on their own behalf .... they would wait for someone else to do so for them.





No doubt...and they probably don't own guns either except for the criminal element amongst them, which is formidable.

I have turned a corner...this is my new Couch.

This guy is a disaster.


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I've been game for revolution since we twice elected a man whose intelligence barely hovers above mentally retarded.

Won't happen, though. Too many distractions and luxuries. People don't revolt unless their backs are against the wall...and as longs as we have malls and T.V. and such...our backs are comfortably cushioned.





To bad the non doers do nothing and the doers do.

I am going to do everything I possibly can to see NOTHING this guy wants is passed and EVERYTHING I possibly can, with-in legal means , to see this guy is ousted from office in 3.5 years.....I hope we survive.

I love my country.

I don't think he does.


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A decline in driving that began in late 2007 has reduced federal gas tax revenue, the primary source of trust fund dollars.





Ignoring the rest for now....this is government at it's best.

Both parties have been telling us to cut down on our overall gas consumption for the betterment of the country. We finally do...apparently starting in 2007...but to a far greater extent during $4/gallon gasoline last summer that has carried through to some extent until now.

And what do we get as our prize for listening (or being coerced)? The government not properly planning for such events that will require us to bail them out....yet again.


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We survived 8 years of Bush's disastrous regime. I imagine we'll survive 8 years of Obama's.

Hopefully one day the people revolt against this government. However, I don't think they have the intelligence to do so...it's going to get a lot worse before anyone lifts a finger.

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I think your wrong...the heart and soul of this country is threatened.

We are going to see a lot of unprecedented things over the next 2 years.

It isn't going to take 8...


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We survived 8 years of Bush's disastrous regime. I imagine we'll survive 8 years of Obama's.

Hopefully one day the people revolt against this government. However, I don't think they have the intelligence to do so...it's going to get a lot worse before anyone lifts a finger.





Thomas Jefferson in his infinite wisdom set our government up so that we can have a peaceful revolt.

In theory, all you have to do is organize a 3rd party and get people to vote you and your party into power.

What he didn't predict was the current administrations putting restrictions on fundraising in particular that make it virtually impossible to manuever.

With most of the country unarmed and not about to shed blood over beaurocratic decisions, we just have to wait until China and other countries that we borrow $$$ from finally just say no. At that point, we will have to go the route of Russia and Japan.


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...the heart and soul of this country is threatened.




You act like this is something new...it's been threatened for decades.

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...the heart and soul of this country is threatened.




You act like this is something new...it's been threatened for decades.




Maybe he means the threats are becoming promises.


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I agree Peenie .. this country is crashing .. and its crashing hard .. it is not going to be no wheres near 8 years before something HAS TO BE DONE ...

these guys are spending money at an astronimical pace .. it boggles my mind .. everytime IO turn around theres aother 10 billion being thrown around like a quarter ..

and someone else mentioned it .. CHINA is getting scared .. Geithner is over there cause they want to be ASSURED that there MONEY IS SECURE ... there GETTING NERVOUS ..

and the news just keeps getting worse .. the car industry is going to REALLY DRAG THIS ECONOMY DOWN EVEN ANOTHER NOTCH ..

and the unemployment scrolls willl go up .. the TAX REVENUE will go down ..

at some point .. and its not to far way .. this is going to COME CRASHING DOWN on the bozos that run our country and there is nothing that can be done about it ..

our goverment is leveraged up to its neck .. and this is before nationalized HC .. and he needs how many trillion for that ..

how much more can we be taxed .. for real??? ..

I'm with U man .. its not that far away ..




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A decline in driving that began in late 2007 has reduced federal gas tax revenue, the primary source of trust fund dollars.





Ignoring the rest for now....this is government at it's best.

Both parties have been telling us to cut down on our overall gas consumption for the betterment of the country. We finally do...apparently starting in 2007...but to a far greater extent during $4/gallon gasoline last summer that has carried through to some extent until now.

And what do we get as our prize for listening (or being coerced)? The government not properly planning for such events that will require us to bail them out....yet again.




Just like out in California a few years ago......people were told to save water - ration water. They did. Then what happened? The gov't. said "hey, our tax revenue from water usage is down so much, we're going to raise taxes on it." (now, I do not remember exactly where in Cali this happened - it was not a state wide thing).

Take cigs. Gov't wants everyone to quit. But they raise taxes on cigs - many do quit. Then they go and increase eligibility for SCHIPS, to be paid for by taxing cigs even more.

There isn't a damn thing gov't. won't touch as far as raising taxes......and what kills me is they say "for the public good, we're going to raise taxes on "X", so that people don't do "X". Then when people don't do "X", they say, "we have to raise taxes on something else, because "X" isn't panning out.")

Our gov't. won't be happy until about 90% of earned income is gone in taxes. And the "poor" people shout "amen", not realizing that the poor people are increasing in number, and the people with money are decreasing.

We are close to a breaking point as a people. The country is so far beyond it it's unbelievable. And what is gov't. response? "let's tax the workers even more so we can keep the poor on the public dole, thereby creating a whole new class of people that want gov't. interference.

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The gas tax was raised to 18.4 cents/gallon in 1994.

I don't know of any construction project that could be bought at 1994 prices.

It does not suprize me.


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The gas tax was raised to 18.4 cents/gallon in 1994.

I don't know of any construction project that could be bought at 1994 prices.

It does not suprize me.




How many gallons of gas were used in 1994 vs. how many gallons are used now?

I have a feeling there is quite a difference.

Regardless, gov't. needs to quit raising taxes. They should reduce spending..........can't you see where all the tax hikes lead us to?

Granted, gov't. always has "great" reasons for raising taxes..........it's always for the public good. And they always say "if we don't get more money, you will have to deal with less services" (and of course cops and fire protection are the first to to tossed out)

Sorry, at some point in time, the actual tax payers (notice I didn't say the american citizens?) are going to say screw it.

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j/c weren't they building this 537 lane wide nafta highway to make it easy for mexican illegals to migrate straight to canada instead of stopping in the u.s. ? so is that off the plate now. or maybe it was just an acid dream of mine. or does that thing really exist.

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Sen George Voinovich R Ohio said it's clear that Congress must raise the federal gas tax.




If the esteemed Republican Senator from the great state of Ohio says so, Thats good enough for me.

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On the time value of money.

The tax should be 26.8 cents today to equal the same 18.4 cent tax of 1994.

or 18.4 cents that we pay today would be equal to 12.6 cents in 1994 dollars.


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On the time value of money.

The tax should be 26.8 cents today to equal the same 18.4 cent tax of 1994.

or 18.4 cents that we pay today would be equal to 12.6 cents in 1994 dollars.




That would be great if the time value of money were reflected in my income, and yours, and everyone else's, wouldn't it?

Sad fact of the matter is my dollar today is worth far less than it was 10 years ago...........add in all the other taxes.........we workers don't get jack for what we earn.

You want taxes to coninually rise? pay them. I don't want to.

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That calculation is taken straight from the CPI tables from 1994 and 2008.

CPI of 1994 = 148, CPI of 2008 = 215.

It should be reflected in your income.

There is no way that I would trade my 1994 income for 2008.


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