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He'd now be 2nd on our single season rushing record, tied for Jim Brown with 17 tds, and be first on carries per season while averaging 4.5 yards a carry. That season alone is almost worth $15 mil guaranteed.
I don't get why people covet draft picks so much and then won't give up a 1st and a 3rd for this guy. He had proven time and time again that when given the opportunity, he can produce. Instead teams will go out and give guys like Jerry Porter and DeAngelo Hall get $10 mil and $24.5 mil respectively.
I understand that you have to build through the draft. I understand you can't be like Daniel Snyder and just keep piling on high profile, expensive free agents. With that being said, I'd think the risk of giving Turner the contract he got would still be less than giving an unproven back that type of money. For every Adrian Peterson, there will be 3 William Green.
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First saying Jim Brown and Micheal Turner in the same breath is idiotic but you want the comparision you got it. How many games did Jim Brown play compared to Turner, and who the hell cares dude Atlanta doesn't mean crap to Browns fans and the NFL for that matter, that franchise could leave and people wouldn't notice or care.
Take your Micheal Mexico and trash talk to people who care and those people could be counted on one hand with someone missing 5 fingers.
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Where are these people coming from?!?! 
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Was this before of after he beat his baby's momma?  Turner involved in "domestic dispute"
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Could be worse he might have been involved in dog fighting rings too, but that was another dolt from the same ass team that nobody gives a damn about.
Atlanta who?
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First saying Jim Brown and Micheal Turner in the same breath is idiotic but you want the comparision you got it.
You got me. That's clearly what I was getting at. I was saying that Michael Turner is the next Jim Brown. Actually, he might already be better than Jim Brown. I'd say he's going to get at least 3000 yards.
It's getting a little late. You better get to bed. The little yellow bus will be there to pick you up in the morning.
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A guy trying to tell me that Michelle Turner is better then Jim Brown is totally laughable, hell even worse then that. So Michelle Turner is the best player to dawn pads in the NFL? Answer No, that is Jim Brown, deal with it and trust me you do not matter one bit.
Little yellow bus huh? Seems to me you own the seats on that Michelle Turner being comapred to Jim Brown, not only dumb but just plain old simple foolish son.
Michelle Turner the next Jim Brown? LMAO won't happen you can't beat greatness and your little fella is not in the samew zip code let alone state.
Michelle Turner and Jim Brown comparisions, LMAO. I don't need to beat you down you handled that all on your own.
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Dude is a good RB.
I'll be the first to admitt I was wrong about the guy, but to think he could have done what he did in Cleveland is ignorant. They O-line is playing at a high level and ours isn't.
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Turner probably would have looked worse than Jamal behind our offensive line.
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He'd now be 2nd on our single season rushing record, tied for Jim Brown with 17 tds, and be first on carries per season while averaging 4.5 yards a carry. That season alone is almost worth $15 mil guaranteed.
I don't get why people covet draft picks so much and then won't give up a 1st and a 3rd for this guy. He had proven time and time again that when given the opportunity, he can produce. Instead teams will go out and give guys like Jerry Porter and DeAngelo Hall get $10 mil and $24.5 mil respectively.
I understand that you have to build through the draft. I understand you can't be like Daniel Snyder and just keep piling on high profile, expensive free agents. With that being said, I'd think the risk of giving Turner the contract he got would still be less than giving an unproven back that type of money. For every Adrian Peterson, there will be 3 William Green.
Do you realize that if the title of your thread didn't have "Michael Turner" in it, nobody would know exactly what or who you you were trying to discuss.
You start off by bringing up Jim Brown's history, then you talk about draft picks, then you talk about Deangelo Hall and Jerry Porter, then you talk about Daniel Snyder, then for the first time in your entire post, you write "Turner."
What's your point man?
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Who are you and what are you smoking? I mean smacking???
The FO for not signing him in FA?
Fans here?
Who? Why?
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Do you realize that if the title of your thread didn't have "Michael Turner" in it, nobody would know exactly what or who you you were trying to discuss.
You start off by bringing up Jim Brown's history, then you talk about draft picks, then you talk about Deangelo Hall and Jerry Porter, then you talk about Daniel Snyder, then for the first time in your entire post, you write "Turner."
What's your point man?
I think the 2nd paragraph explains my "point" fairly well. During the Turner discussion while he was a RFA, most people were scared of giving big money to him and giving up draft picks. At the same token, guys will give the top 5 picks in the draft more money than he had gotten for a guy that has not proven anything at the professional level. It would have cost a team a 1st and a 3rd round pick for a 25 year old back, hence the discussion about draft picks.
Jerry Porter & DeAngelo Hall got big contracts. They were not very productive for separate reasons. Most NFL scouts knew that despite Hall's 2 Pro Bowls, that he wasn't that good of a corner. I don't understand how those guys got near the money he got when he has proven he can be productive at an NFL Level.
As far as his name not being in the thread, I would hope that people would actually read the subject before obliviously clicking into a thread. Why I'd need to drop his name 50 times for someone to get the "point" is beyond me.
Hopefully that sheds some light for you.
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Shep,
You've been here a while, so you should know that there was a fair amount of discussion about him, and most people were adamantly against giving up those precious draft picks for him. Then, we didn't even sniff at him as a free agent which time shows us that Lewis was going to slow down sooner rather than later.
As for why I put it here, I guess this would be the most "appropriate" place to put it since General Discussion it'd probably get removed for calling some people out.
In the long run, we got Joe Thomas, who looks like he's going to be a good player, but why we didn't look at him again in the offseason is beyond me. The teams that constantly try to improve and really run through all of their options usually are the ones that find their way at the top. Phil Savage didn't do that, but I guess any Savage bashing/praising should be left for another topic.
In a very symbolic way, it sort of epitomizes what's wrong with this franchise. They don't turn over every stone before making a decision. If I was a GM, I'd sit down with any high profile free agent that would listen and weigh my options. I think that teams like the Patriots do that, hence why you hear about so many "visits" but not a ton of signings.
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Who are you and what are you smoking? I mean smacking???
You were right the first time.
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You've been here a while, so you should know that there was a fair amount of discussion about him, and most people were adamantly against giving up those precious draft picks for him.
Because nobody knew if he could be the go-to guy for a bunch of totes a game. He was buried behind LT for years.....and if you look at his game logs he never had a game with a lot of carries, but he had that occasional Jerome Harrison look where he busts out a long run to increase his average.
Look at his game logs from this 2008 season.....nearly half of his games are in the mediocre or near mediocre range.
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In the long run, we got Joe Thomas, who looks like he's going to be a good player, but why we didn't look at him again in the offseason is beyond me.
We didn't have a chance to sniff him......he visited Atlanta on day 1 of Free Agency and signed there without visiting ANY OTHER TEAM.
Still not sure what the point is......we weren't in a position to give draft picks when they shopped him, as we had (have) multiple needs, and when he became a FA we didn't have a chance to attempt to sign him.
Spilt milk...... *shrug*
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you can't just assume he'd have those same numbers with the browns that he put up in atlanta...
considering the browns play in a division with the 2 best rush defenses in the nfl.
sorry, dude. FAIL.
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I wanted us to sign him.
Even had him in an off-season mock about this time last year.
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I wanted us to sign him.
Even had him in an off-season mock about this time last year.
Here's a little poem for ya:
It don't matter who they sign,
It don't matter who the hire,
It don't matter who they draft,
It dont matter who they fire,
Cleveland will suck forever,
That's what I've heard,
'Cause no matter how hard they try,
You can't polish a turd.
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I'm not that big on poetry, but any math class (2nd grade or higher for yinz) or episode of Sesame Street will tell you that 8 championships is greater than 5. Here's a picture for you since that's all you can comprehend...  8 championships > 5 championships ha  ha ha
Joe Thomas made Justin Timberlake change his name. He didn't want wusses to have the same initials...
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