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That is true of legal alien visitors. But you are speaking of illegal IMMIGRANTS.
IMMIGRANTS - a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there.
Also nice twist. But we are talking about US licenses and illegal immigrants, NOT foreign licenses of LEGAL VISITORS.
Keep trying though.
This is the last time I'm going to correct you, it's just getting boring now. Illegal and Legal immigrants both have valid licenses from their home country can use them here. Both legal and illegal immigrants can, according to the state they apply in, get a US drivers license without being a US citizen, or even a legal resident. Not that this even matters, but please stop spouting BS about immigration law of which you know nothing. It just makes you look bad.
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So, you're saying an illegal immigrant that comes to ohio can get a valid ohio's drivers license by only showing their mexican drivers license?
And further more, if you are here, in this country illegally - you do NOT have the same rights as me, a citizen.
I understand that me, a u.s. citizen, am allowed - ALLOWED - to drive in Canada, because of the kindness of Canada. I will guarantee you if I MOVE to canada, my american drivers license will be considered null and void. Especially if I go to seek free medical care.
I see you lived in myriad of states during your youth.....and according to you your dad was an attorney.
Let me tell you a quick story about a highschool classmate of mine....he went to college and got a degree in medicine. That makes him legit, right? Perhaps.....you see, he has practiced medicine in exactly 5 states in the past 11 years. You see, he moves every time questions come up.
Just because someone has a degree in whatever, I don't give them jurisdiction simply because of the piece of paper. And your "legal" opinions mean nothing to me because they are so warped.
You claim to be a constitutional law lawyer, AND an illegal immigration lawyer, plus you claim to be a criminal lawyer..................wow, you must be one hell of a busy lawyer, as I know no lawyer that tackles all 3 of those legal issues at the same time.
How do you have time to post on here, being a constitutional law lawyer, a criminal lawyer, and an expert in illegal immigration law? Or are you not?
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If you really wanna be a part of the American society, you learn it before you pay to get yourself smuggled into the States.
LOL. how, pray tell. Just sign up at the community college for english classes? a private tutor? books bought online? Your statement is so ridiculous. The arrogance of that comment is overwhelming.
How?
Not my problem. All I know is if I was gonna move to Mexico, I would learn Spanish BEFORE I moved (or in their case illegally smuggled myself into their country).
Moving to Germany? Learn German.
Moving to China, learn Chinese.
Seems logical to me.
That's easy to say from where you stand - what you "would" do. you, for whatever reason, just won't let yourself admit that they are people, no better or worse than you. You need to feel like you are better than them. That's your problem. But you are not better than them, whether you think you would do better in their shoes or not.
That is not a problem, it is just the way it is. I am better than them. They are in MY country illegally. Breaking our laws. I on the other hand am NOT in their country breaking theirs. That alone makes me better than they are. I am not a criminal.
Then these clowns come here illegally waving that ugly flag of theirs. They wanna be me so badly but yet they don't wave my flag in my country they wave theirs. Makes alot of sense.
it's OUR country. not YOURS.
And I already proved to you that you are also a criminal, as nearly all of us are. Your sentiments, as usual, are representative of the worst part of America, are against the spirit of the constitution, and downright ugly. May all of your worst nightmares come true, because that means peace and joy for the rest of us.
You proved to me I am a criminal? You don't know me, how could you possibly prove that? 
I'm not, but even if I was....
I am not a criminal just by my presents in MY country.
My sentiments may be the "worst part of America", but at very least they ARE American.
You are all of what is wrong with this country.
I will not wish bad things to befall on you like you did me, and hope this never happens, but I bet you would feel differently if one of those criminals (illegal immigrant) driving with his "valid" Mexican Drivers license, gets charged with DWI/DUI and a few counts of manslaughter for killing a car load of your loved ones. Be a pity if that was to happen, specially knowing it wouldn't have happened if the criminal was in his own country where he/she belongs.
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I think you talk out of the side of your mouth on this issue and I too have lived in South Florida.
And I know for a fact that most of those illegally in this country do not have their taxes taken out because they are 1099ed…they do not pay SSN….they do not pay Medicaid and they cost tax paying citizens 3 billion dollars annually from hospital stays they stiff us with. If they can go threw proper channels and don’t come into our boarders uninvited.…I have no problem with their relocating here with exception to language…..My great grandfather came here from Germany, but other then a few phrases I speak the spoken language of this country and that is English.
Another thing that bothers me is that they make their money here, but many send it home to Mexico and it is worth a lot more to them their…..so they play both sides of the fence.
Another thing that bothers me….no it makes me mad as hell is the statistics show that most
Illegal aliens have criminal records in their home country and are not educated. We have plenty of ghetto’s in this country already without making more. We citizens are fed up with paying the price for these poor unfortunate soles you speak of, who come here and cut are throats in construction bids, because they have a van load of worker who they can pay nothing to do the work, but what usually happens is the head guy takes the money and their own people are left with nothing. They don’t have to pay for business insurance, because most are not bonded and insured…they don’t have to pay into workman’s compensation….they just need to make another trip to Texas and pick up another van load. And do nothing but make the rich richer.
Supply and demand……as long as we have the crooks in this country who keep employing these people, the problems will not go away.
And another thing that you said just brings my blood to a boil…is how they work harder then Americans….that statement is the biggest myth there ever was rumored. There is not one person I know of who lives in my town that is not a hard working person. Don’t look at our big cities and think you can judge the rest of this country by what you see there. We are not afraid to work…we just want to get paid equal to the work we are doing. You see we still have not abolished slavery in this country. The slave masters are the Capitalist and the slaves are now the
Illegal aliens. To hell I say with these Capitalist they are as big a cancer as the British were to the colonist.
And I’ am not an attorney….you think you can reason this issue with you fancy lawyer talk.
Well I’m not buy what your selling. They are not here legally so they should be forced to leave and yes there should be consequences to their illegal act. The rest of us adult citizens have them as well if we do not follow the law and I don’t mean speeding on the roadway….that’s about as lamb a comparison I have ever heard.
We Americans are tired of paying for the rest of the 3rd world….we have needs right here at home…that money spent on these Illegal aliens would go a long way in solving our health care and other internal issues. No other country has put up with this issue as long as the citizens of this country have. Australia in a recent speech to the foreign immigrants who where complaining about their christen religion….were told that they have the right to one of their countries greatest rights…..and that’s the right to leave if they don’t want to except their culture and religion.
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This is the last time I'm going to correct you, it's just getting boring now. Illegal and Legal immigrants both have valid licenses from their home country can use them here. Both legal and illegal immigrants can, according to the state they apply in, get a US drivers license without being a US citizen, or even a legal resident. Not that this even matters, but please stop spouting BS about immigration law of which you know nothing. It just makes you look bad.
I'll use Florida as an example
Non-United States Citizens
Original Driver License or Identification Card Florida law requires identification, proof of date of birth and social security number (if issued, Chapter 322, Florida Statutes, requires the Department to collect social security numbers for the issuance of driver license and identification cards) from all customers before a driver license or identification card can be issued.
Immigrants
Each immigrant who applies for an original driver license or identification card must submit:
1. Alien Registration receipt card, (Green card, Form I-551); or
2. I-551 stamp in passport or on I-94; or
3. Immigration Judges Order, with the customer's A-number, granting asylum; or
4. I-797, with the customer's A-number, stating the customer has been granted asylum; or
5. I-797 or another form from the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, with the customer's A-number, stating the customer's application for Refugee status is approved;
Renewals, Duplicates or Replacements for Non-United States Citizens
* Any immigrant holding a driver license or identification card who needs a renewal, duplicate or replacement driver license or identification card must apply in person at a driver license office at least one time after March 1, 2002, and re-present his/her identification documents required by Florida law.
* Any non-immigrant holding a driver license or identification card who needs a renewal, duplicate, or replacement driver license or identification card must apply in person at a driver license office and present identification and legal presence documents.
* If you do not have the required documents showing legal presence, your driver license or identification card will be retained and a receipt issued. If you have an unexpired driver license, you will be issued a 30-day temporary permit. When you return with the required documentation, you will be processed for a renewal, duplicate or replacement license and the expiration date will be changed to the expiration date on your INS document.
I looked up several other states and they also state that an ILLEGAL can not just walk in and get a drivers lisc.
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HMMMM Interesting it sure looks like good old California does not allow illegals to have a drivers lisc. either
Birth date verification and legal presence requirements
The issue of identification reliability, integrity, and confidentiality is of prime concern to all citizens. Eligibility for government services, issuance of various licenses, assessment of taxes, the right to vote, etc., are all determined through evaluations based on identification documents. It is critical that identification documents be authenticated and accurate in identifying each individual. The California driver license and ID card have been declared as primary identification documents in this state by the California legislature.
State law requires every applicant for an original California identification (ID) card and driver license to show verification of birth date and proof of legal presence within the United States to help safeguard the accuracy and integrity of departmental documents.
If your current name no longer matches the name on your birth date/legal presence document, see "True Full Name" and "How to Change Your Name" for more information.
Only the original or a certified copy of one of the following documents is acceptable:
* US Birth Certificate
* US Certificate or Report of Birth Abroad
* Federal Proof of Indian Blood Degree
* INS American Indian Card
* Birth Certificate or passport issued from a US Territory
* US Passport
* US Military Identification Cards (Active or reserve duty, dependent, retired member, discharged from service, medical/religious personnel)
* Common Access Card (only if designated as Active military or Active Reserve or Active Selected Reserve)
* Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship
* Northern Mariana Card
* INS US Citizen ID Card
* Permanent Resident Card
* Temporary Resident Identification Card
* Canadian Passport/Birth Certificate
* Non-resident Alien Canadian Border Crossing Card
* Valid foreign passport with a valid Record of Arrival/Departure (form I-94)
* Certification from California Department of Corrections or California Youth Authority
* Employment Authorization Card
* Permanent Resident Re-entry Permit
* Refugee travel document
* "Processed for I-551" stamped in a valid foreign passport
* Valid I-94 stamped "Refugee," "Parole or Parolee," "Asylee," or Section 207, Section 208, Section 209, Section 212d(2), HP or PIP
* Immigration judge’s order granting asylum
* Certified court order or judgment issued from a court of competent jurisdiction.
* Valid I-94 with attached photo stamped "Processed for I-551 temporary evidence of lawful admission for permanent residence"
* Notice of Action (I-797 Approved Petition)
* Mexican Border Crossing Card with valid I-94
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To take a direct quote straight out or your own mouth in this very thread " please stop spouting BS about immigration law of which you know nothing. It just makes you look bad. " 
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One more time..... Dude you getting  here. Drivers Licenses and Social Security Numbers for Illegal Immigrants Immigration Articles >> Living in the United States >> Drivers Licenses and Social Security Numbers for Illegal Immigrants Legal Disclaimer Drivers Licenses for Illegal ImmigrantsBills that would have given illegal immigrants the opportunity to obtain driving licenses have been shut down throughout the years. In September 2003 Governor Gray Davis of California signed a bill that would have given illegal immigrants the chance to obtain a California drivers license. Many Hispanics applauded Governor Davis for signing the bill, because they believed that this would make California drivers safer altogether. The supporters argued that there were many illegal immigrants driving without a license. By giving illegal immigrants the opportunity to obtain a license, supporters believed that many would pursue that option. In order to receive the driving license, the illegal immigrants like any other citizen or resident would have to pass a driving test. In addition to having the driver’s license, the illegal immigrants would be required to be insured since car insurance is mandatory for everyone that drives in the state of California. Insurance companies will only insure individuals with a driver’s license. Another added benefit would be that the black market for driving licenses would significantly fall. Those against the bill that would grant illegal immigrants driving licenses argued that this would be a way of rewarding illegal immigrants and even encourage more illegal immigrants to cross the U.S.-Mexico border. The driver’s license could also be used for identification purposes which may also lead to more terrorists entering the U.S. and committing terrorist acts. Later that year Governor Davis was recalled and when Governor Schwarzenegger came into office he was quick to repeal the bill signed by Davis. Driving is seen as a privilege for those who are law-abiding citizens and noncitizens. After 9/11, the federal government has added extra security measures when obtaining a state identification card, a driver’s license and/or social security numbers among other legal documents. A new federal law was introduced that made it a requirement to show proof of residency status and identity to obtain a state driver’s license. As of May 2008, driving licenses issued by the states that do not meet these requirements will not be accepted as legal identification to gain entry into a federal building or to board an airplane in the U.S. An example of a state with numerous requirements that must be satisfied in order to obtain a driver’s license is California. The requirements include: (1) a fee, (2) proof of social security number (SSN), (3) proof of true full name, (4) verification of birth date and proof of legal presence, (5) limited term legal presence, (6) vision exam and (7) the signature of the parent or guardian in the case of minors. Requirements for driver’s license may vary from state to state, so it is recommended to check out the department of motor vehicles (DMV) website. For many who oppose giving driver’s license or social security numbers to illegal immigrants see such measure as an issue of national security. It also gives them an opportunity to obtain a document used for identification purposes. Some government officials have suggested that “driving only” documents be issued that are easily differentiated from driving licenses. In addition, they have proposed that the “driving only” document not be made a legal identification document for those who cannot prove their legality. The requirements are strict not only to obtain a driver’s license but to obtain a social security number as well. The Social Security Administration issues three different types of social security cards. The first type is given to U.S. citizens and immigrants lawfully residing in the United States and includes name and social security number. The second type is granted to individuals who are only authorized to work with DHS authorization on a temporary basis and this card will specifically state “valid for work only with DHS authorization.” The final card is issued to foreigners with non-work purposes and states “not valid for employment.” The requirements to obtain a social security number for work purposes are that the applicant must be either a citizen of the United States or a permanent U.S. resident (Green Card holder). Immigrants must be able to show that they are authorized to live and work in the United States. Those with work authorization include refugees, asylums, officials from foreign governments, NATO personnel and representatives of international organizations. The list is extensive so check with the Social Security Administration to get the most recent updates. In addition, the applicant must show proof of age and identity. Documentation that can be used to prove age and identity include passports, birth certificates, hospital records, driving license, marriage records, and documentation from the USCIS which used to be known as the INS or Immigration and Naturalization Service. A similar process must be undergone to obtain a non-work social security number. The key to obtaining driving licenses and social security numbers for an immigrant is to be lawfully residing in the United States. However, new legislation like the immigration bill that has been recently proposed may introduce changes that may grant more opportunities to immigrants. http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/illegalimmigrant_driverslicense.html
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GMdawg -  Can you imagine hiring this guy as your representation?  It's no wonder he represents people that can't understand the English language. They are the only ones who unknowingly would hire such incompentance. jobenincasa -  Dude, you and your imaginary knowledge of law just got owned by GMdawg. Your knowledge is so pathetic, I almost feel bad for the illegal....almost. It does releave me that your ignorance and incompentance could not possibly succeed defending these criminals.
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Sorry, I lived in south florida too. My dad does immigration law there.
Florida, New York, California, just how many places have you lived, and how many kids did you say you had again?
I was born in Ohio, moved to florida when I was 14, graduated HS in Arkansas, went to college in Dallas, grad school in Minnesota, went to New York via South Carolina to live, then came to California for law school and stayed.
I haven't been that many places in the world. Canada, Mexico, one trip to south america, three to europe. Never been to africa or asia.
I have zero kids, but that is hopefully changing this year.
My, OH MY, oh my. If you HOPE to be a parent some day, why would you have said this on November 2nd 2007?
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Sex offender doesn't equal pedophile. Most sex offenders are not registered as such for victimizing children.
To the person who said having kids changes your perspective, he's right. it's made me even more aware of the fact that this type of thing is wrong and is setting a terrible example for our kids. Be scared. It's okay for the government to abuse the constitution. A criminal record equals a bad person.
I firmly believe, father that I am, and someone who works in government, that this type of thing is doing more damage to our children and our communities than good.
Just because something is the law, doens't mean it's right. In Nazi germany, the law was kill the jews. Didn't make it right.)
Just how many lies have you told since you started posting here? Can you even count that high? What lies are you going to tell to try to explain this? Are you going to ever admit your a liar, or do I need to keep pointing it out to everybody so they can all laugh at you some more?
I mean come on you claim on November 2nd 2007 your a father, then in May of 2008 you say your not a father.
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I mean come on you claim on November 2nd 2007 your a father, then in May of 2008 you say your not a father.
You have to have had sex in your lifetime to be a father.
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You know it's bad when a dumb old redneck can take 15 min. and make somebody look bad with their own words 
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Did anyone else notice he worked for the "government" in that post and now claims he is a criminal and an immigration lawyer? Man, GM, you just exposed him and confirmed everything people said about him. Good job.
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Kudos to you GM. Nice work.
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Good read FloridaFan… I forwarded the story to my father who lives in Houston (Minute Man) on the front line at 70 years young. did you know that in this country they wont let you volunteer for home land security even if your X military over the age of 40. Imagine if they told our forefather of this Country that….I don’t think we would have won our liberty and freedom from England.
If you are concerned about the Issue of Immigration and Amnesty and you would like to write your Senator and trust me it’s as easy as voting with this form….If you care about this Issue I would urge you to send this type written e-mail to the Powers that be in your neck of the woods
And let our leaders know that you don’t believe the rhetoric that there will be a crop failure in this country if they don’t give them and their families Amnesty.  These leaders / crooks are trying to slide the bill in the Iraq bill.
Please send an e-mail to your senator
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Very compassionate post. I do see some of the arrogance but not as much as you profess... I don't know that I "deserve" it more because I was born here, but I have an obligation to care for it because I was born here and when 15 million undocumented people are here, I don't see that as a good thing. Like it or not, it's not 1760 or 1840 or even 1930 any more... the times have changed and America needs to change with them, we can no longer have a totally open door policy to immigrants... I worked construction in Washington DC for 13 years.. yea, I've talked to quite a few immigrants both legal and illegal and the only difference between them, is paperwork. I get that but laws are laws and this is a nation built on laws... As for what Jesus would do... well that's a tough one. I suppose if Jesus was here, he could feed 15 million with a couple loaves of bread and a few fish...  On the other hand, Jesus did not command his disciples to bring all the people of the world to the promised land to teach them, instead he told the disciples to go to them and teach them where they lived...
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he'll just ignore gm, or stay out of this thread....kinda like he did when he tried to discredit my post quoting Theodore Roosevelt, by saying that he was the one that herded the japanese into concentration camps...
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Man, GM, you just totally owned jobenincasa... 
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I wonder if he is on "Bubba's" payroll. $1,000 for every fresh piece of meat that gets locked up 
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Well I guess you finally got him to shut his pie hole.
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As for what Jesus would do... well that's a tough one. I suppose if Jesus was here, he could feed 15 million with a couple loaves of bread and a few fish... On the other hand, Jesus did not command his disciples to bring all the people of the world to the promised land to teach them, instead he told the disciples to go to them and teach them where they lived...
i'll just go and start the plans to export all you Believers out of the US, where you can teach the people of the world, then...
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I also believe that the Bible states specifically to "obey the laws of the land", doesn't it?
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Job? JOb? JOB????????? Where'd you go?
Still here.
I got so pissed at the last few posts you made on Tuesday I decided it wasn't doing me any good to keep replying to you guys. I gave it a rest for a couple days. Not too embarassed to post.
I'm not going to give you all my personal details, but when I said I was a father, and that now I have zero kids, they were both true. You can do the math. I appreciate you having fun at the expense of my family.
Federal law trumps state law on all immigration matters.
I'm tired of arguing about my personal experiences. I dont' care what you believe. I don't think i'm better because I'm a lawyer, never did. I've had a lot of jobs, and people are people whether you drive a truck to do brain surgery.
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I'm not going to give you all my personal details, but when I said I was a father, and that now I have zero kids, they were both true. You can do the math.
I did not point out that you were a liar. I just laughed about it. So my friend you are laying the guilt trip on the wrong person.
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I appreciate you having fun at the expense of my family.
Not having fun, but did have a nice belly chuckle. You are welcome.
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Federal law trumps state law on all immigration matters.
Yes and it is STILL illegal for them to be here.
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I'm tired of arguing about my personal experiences.
Good, does this mean we don't have to read your drivel any longer? Woo Hoo
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I dont' care what you believe.
Good, because with your track record, you could tell me the sky is blue and I would have to verify.
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I don't think i'm better because I'm a lawyer, never did.
Never said you did, then again, I still highly doubt someone of your aptitude could complete law school, I am having doubts about high school for that matter.
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I've had a lot of jobs, and people are people whether you drive a truck to do brain surgery.
But some are LEGAL and some are NOT.
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What lies are you going to tell to try to explain this?
Looks like I pegged that one 
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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Your nose is growing again.
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What lies are you going to tell to try to explain this?
Looks like I pegged that one
You have him on the run........took him a couple of days to come up the last one.
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Does your ass hurt much since you seem to be speaking from it? If your a lawyer I own a fortune 500 business. Way to lose any credibility you thought you might have had. 
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Man, GM, you just totally owned jobenincasa...
He sure did and watching the guy try to weasel out of his lies is even more pathetic 
Due props GM
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Man, GM, you just totally owned jobenincasa...
He sure did and watching the guy try to weasel out of his lies is even more pathetic
Due props GM
Job? Job.......you there? Well, looks like he's gone. Must've had a major constitutional law case, or a major criminal law case, or a major illegal imigration case he's tended to- cause, after all, riight up till GM showed him his ass, he was posting like craxy. Now all of a sudden he's (job) speechless................not sure I understand that job.
Hello?
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Man, GM, you just totally owned jobenincasa...
He sure did and watching the guy try to weasel out of his lies is even more pathetic
Due props GM
Job? Job.......you there? Well, looks like he's gone. Must've had a major constitutional law case, or a major criminal law case, or a major illegal imigration case he's tended to- cause, after all, riight up till GM showed him his ass, he was posting like craxy. Now all of a sudden he's (job) speechless................not sure I understand that job.
Hello?
Too damn funny!
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america is a melting pot. i personaly think america could use a bit more spanish influence. and im not talking "illegals"
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Attitude is everything....FEAR THE ELF!!!
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america is a melting pot.
i personaly think america could use a bit more spanish influence.
and im not talking "illegals"
The problem isn't Spaniards.
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maybe he pled the fifth?
Seiously.... Toooooo damn funny!
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