"Following their arrests the girls joked in a holding cell. One asked if she would be able to make it to cheerleading practice the next day, while several others joked that they wouldn't be making it back to the beach anytime soon, he said."
Wonder if they'll be laughing when they're in a holding cell with 200-pound Betty... Score one for the teenage girls. And smart enough to record it to post online? I'd say we sterilize them before they pass the moron gene along.
I want the Cleveland Browns to be my pallbearers so they can let me down for the last time.
Teens Arrested Over Taped Beating CBS News Posted: 2008-04-08 08:14:58 Filed Under: Crime News, Nation News
(April 8) - Eight teenagers have been arrested after filming the beating of another teen and threatening to post the video on the Internet, sheriff's officials said.
Victoria Lindsay was attacked on March 30 by six teenage girls when she arrived at a friend's home, the Polk County Sheriff's Office said.
Two girls confronted Lindsay when she walked in, yelling and threatening her, an arrest report showed. Another girl struck her in the head several times and then slammed her head into the bedroom wall, knocking her unconscious.
"That is animalistic behavior. It's pack mentality. They lured her there to beat her," Sheriff Grady Judd said.
When she woke up, she was on the couch in the living room surrounded by the six girls. The teens blocked the door, held Lindsay down and began beating her, the report said. Two teenage boys waited outside the home as lookouts.
Portions of the video were released by the sheriff's office and posted on CBS affiliate WTSP-TV.
All eight were charged last week with battery and false imprisonment, which are third-degree felonies, the report said.
Lindsay was taken to the hospital by ambulance and treated for a concussion, damage to her left eye and left ear, and numerous bruises, the report said.
Lindsay's father said the teens' motivation for the attack was to produce a video that would become popular on YouTube, a video-sharing Web site.
"I want stiffer punishments for these shock Web sites that entice kids to make these videos so they can be famous on the Internet," Lindsay's father, who declined to give his name, told The Ledger in Lakeland, Fla. "That is the motive, I am sure of it. It's crazy and it's terrible and they're gonna pay."
But the mother of one of the girls said that Lindsay had provoked the other teens by threatening and insulting them on MySpace, a social networking Web site.
After the girls were arrested, Christina Garcia told the newspaper she looked at Lindsay's MySpace page and saw the message: "hahaha all in jail."
"A lot of people think, 'I can say whatever I want on here and nobody's gonna say anything,'" Garcia said. "A fight is a fight, but this was a beatdown. She did not deserve what she got, but I don't know how she's that messed up and able to get on the computer and talk about that."
It's not immediately clear if the video was ever posted on the Internet.
Copyright 2008, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
This is messed up on so many levels. After watching this attack, I am really starting to lose faith in the overall decency of people. And how about the father---calling out Youtube---yea, thats clearly who's at fault here.
Like I said in a thread a few weeks back, the spike in teenage violence has occurred simultaneously with the rise of the internet. Info is readily available, and sites like Youtube and Break add fuel to the fire. This proves it, as the specifically taped it to post on the internet. What a shame.
Quote: And how about the father---calling out Youtube---yea, thats clearly who's at fault here.
I don't think you can hold youtube accountable.. but they have given a great deal of ease to this 15-minutes of fame concept.. However, youtube would have to get in line behind a host of other people responsible with the kids themselves at the front of it.
I am basically enraged right now. If that had been my daughter being beaten I would do everything in my power to see that the beaters spent as much time in prison as possible.
And I don't give a rats ass if people blame youtube, the parents, or society. The blame is secondary. Those bitches deserve prison.
Quote: It's not the internet's fault, it goes back to the values taught to these kids, or should I say the lack of values taught to these kids.
And the one mother's reaction is proof of just that.
Parenting IMO can only do so much. You can preach values, but if they hang with the wrong crowd, peer pressure can really have an effect.
I always thought my parents raised my well. I did very well in school, I was always well-behaved and well-liked. They didn't do anything differently between raising myself and my brother, but my brother turned out to be totally diferent. Why? Because all the people he hung out with from 8th grade on were nothing but LOSERS, and he still hangs with them now.
He's 27 now, and they still sit and talk with the kid, but until he stops hanging around all the negativity, things won't change.
As far as the internet goes, it does influence people. They said in the article they wanted to post it on Youtube. You can't hold them accountable, but Youtube can limit the type of idiocrity that is shown on their site by taking a stand against it.
Quote: You can preach values, but if they hang with the wrong crowd, peer pressure can really have an effect.
As a minor modification.. you can preach all you want, if you aren't living it, the kids will never see it... that's not directed at your parents, I'm sure they are good people... but I know a lot of parents who preach all the right messages and live all the wrong ones then wonder why their kids are screwed up.... then you get to hear, "I don't understand it, we TOLD HIM...."
I had loser friends back in the 3rd and 4th grade, my parents took care of it and showed me where life on that road would lead.. it was effective.
Yeah, my parents are good people. My brother just fell in with the wrong crowd. I don't think they knew it at the time. They have known for quite a while now, but obviouslyh it's late in the game. I didn't know he was even doing the stuff he was doing, and usually, as a guy in high school, I'd have a better idea than they would.
I always strayed from negative stuff. I hung around the same group of friends throughout high school, and they'd get into typically high school stuff, but I tried to avoid doing anything I knew would disappoint my parents. My sister is the same way, never really had problems. My brother has started to clean up his act, though. I just hope he continues to do so and not revert.
Quote: It's not the internet's fault, it goes back to the values taught to these kids, or should I say the lack of values taught to these kids.
And the one mother's reaction is proof of just that.
Parenting IMO can only do so much. You can preach values, but if they hang with the wrong crowd, peer pressure can really have an effect.
Well if ALL the kids were taught proper values, it wouldn't matter what crowd you hung out with. So once again, it comes down to values.
So how do you protect your kid from that?
I see your point, but you're also missing mine.
Protect your kid from what?
Your missing my point. That if ALL parent, I know it's an impossibility, would teach values to their children, there wouldn't be an issue of the "bad seed" infecting "good kids" because they would all, in theory, have common sense to not do this stuff.
now I know that's highly unlikely, but again, the simple statement I made remains true. "...it goes back to the values taught to these kids,..."
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
The 18 year old boys that stood watch outside the house and the girls who performed this horrific, animalistic CRIME be tried and convicted of premeditated attempted murder!!! They had the cameras ready to roll!! The parents who reside at this house should be prosecuted as well!!!
As crimes like these get more and more popular, a precedence needs to be set. These people are old enough to know what is right and wrong. A slap in the wrist would be ridiculous. The punishment needs to be stiff so a lesson is learned and others take note of it.
Very disturbing. I just watched a video of a woman defending one of the attackers. She even used the phrase, "the so-called victim." Sheesh. I watched the video. Believe me, that girl had the crap kicked out of her.
Unfortunately, stories like this will become more prevalent. I've seen it coming for years. Most schools can't do much to punish students anymore. And no, I am not talking about paddling.
I'm talking about not being able to make kids serve detention because the parents complain about having to get up too early or they can't pick them up after school. LOL...........I think the point of detention was to inconvenience all involved, so the action doesn't repeat itself.
Hell, we can hardly put kids in ISS anymore. There are so many damn documents to fill out that you would have to suspend teaching the other 20 children to remove one disruptive student.
If you put them in the hall, they could hurt another student and then you will get sued for not monitoring the child.
The end result is that the students are not being held accountable for undesirable behavior. They are learning that there are no consequences for wrongful acts.
Do we really have to wonder why they amoral acts as they get older?
I really hope that words such as RESPECT and ACCOUNTABILITY begin to mean something in this country again.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
This kind of stuff happened when I was in school, but it wasn't videotaped and thrown on the net. It's not about not having respect... kids will always find reasons to fight.
Uhmmm dude, you are probably part of the generation I'm talking about. Lack of respect and accountability in our schools has been going on for awhile now. The scary thing is that these "kids" are now becoming the parents.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
Quote: Uhmmm dude, you are probably part of the generation I'm talking about. Lack of respect and accountability in our schools has been going on for awhile now. The scary thing is that these "kids" are now becoming the parents.
Ok but older people always want to point at the younger generation and talk about their lack of respect and accountability for their actions but who it that raised them like that? The generation before that? The generation before that?? The parents and the grandparents and generations and generations back are just as responsible for where we have gotten. I am quickly becoming part of that older generation and see the same things you are seeing and will be damned if I will allow my kids to become like that but it gets frustrating to see so many parents who are ,and the peer influence they have on my kids.
KING
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
Quote: Uhmmm dude, you are probably part of the generation I'm talking about. Lack of respect and accountability in our schools has been going on for awhile now. The scary thing is that these "kids" are now becoming the parents.
ummm dude... you're just an old fart who can't take getting old.. For the rest of time, the old foggies will complain about the young kids. Happened when my parents were young, it will happen when my kid is old.
I'm sure there was never any fighting when YOU were in school...
Quote: This kind of stuff happened when I was in school, but it wasn't videotaped and thrown on the net. It's not about not having respect... kids will always find reasons to fight.
You would have gang beatings on people? What happened to 1 on 1 fighting. Are we raising a bunch of sissies that won't fight unless they are assured a victory by numbers? Because that's all I see when it's 5 on 1 and such, or one kid brings a knife or gun to a fist fight. I see a sissy that shouldn't be fighting at all if they can't fight even 1 on 1.
I wouldn't go and start a fight with Kameron Wimbley, because I know dang well I couldn't take him. Rule #1, don't start it if you can't take the guy, and that means 1 on 1 with your fists.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
No, but I do know it happened occasionally and you can't say it never happened when you were young...
Seriously, how often does this REALLY happen. It's sensational news and people blow it out of proportion just like everything else. We're all going to hell... lol
Quote: I wouldn't go and start a fight with Kameron Wimbley, because I know dang well I couldn't take him. Rule #1, don't start it if you can't take the guy, and that means 1 on 1 with your fists.
OH sure now you tell me I took the first shot many times with guys twice my size, and got my butt stomped but never by the same guy twice, because they knew they were going to take a few good shots.
Quote: This kind of stuff happened when I was in school, but it wasn't videotaped and thrown on the net. It's not about not having respect... kids will always find reasons to fight.
You would have gang beatings on people? What happened to 1 on 1 fighting. Are we raising a bunch of sissies that won't fight unless they are assured a victory by numbers? Because that's all I see when it's 5 on 1 and such, or one kid brings a knife or gun to a fist fight. I see a sissy that shouldn't be fighting at all if they can't fight even 1 on 1.
I wouldn't go and start a fight with Kameron Wimbley, because I know dang well I couldn't take him. Rule #1, don't start it if you can't take the guy, and that means 1 on 1 with your fists.
So basically, you're condoning fighting, as long as it's not videotaped and it's just one on one?
So basically, you're condoning fighting, as long as it's not videotaped and it's just one on one?
Oh the moral slide of our country
No, he wasn't condoning violence. But if push comes to shove, have at it 1 on 1 - you and the person you have a beef with.
And yes, every generation looks at the younger generation and shakes their head - the old "that never would've happened when I was young" kind of thing.
Yeah, the problems of today were there 20 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. However, it is much more rampant today - there are more and more and more instances. Society becomes numbed to it, to a certain extent.
Overall, todays kids are not near as respectful as kids were when I was a kid. And when I was a kid, we weren't near as respectful as my parents were when they were kids. I people can't see that they are just kidding themselves.
Yes, we fought. But, the girls didn't invite someone to a house just so they could beat the out of her and video tape it. Or even take pictures of it. Did you watch the video? Man, that was ridiculous.
You are also missing my main point. Yes, older people are the ones to blame for raising kids that way. We've become more about enabling and less about accountability. I brought this up so that perhaps people will start re-examining how we are raising children.
I am not advocating bringing back paddling. Some teachers took that too far. What I am advocating is that if a student makes a mistake, he or she is held accountable for it, rather than making excuses and not doing anything. We are teaching our children the wrong things.
This isn't about my generation vs. your generation. It is about common sense. Can anyone really say that teaching kids to be respectful, accountable, and responsible for their own actions is a bad thing?
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
Quote: This kind of stuff happened when I was in school, but it wasn't videotaped and thrown on the net. It's not about not having respect... kids will always find reasons to fight.
You would have gang beatings on people? What happened to 1 on 1 fighting. Are we raising a bunch of sissies that won't fight unless they are assured a victory by numbers? Because that's all I see when it's 5 on 1 and such, or one kid brings a knife or gun to a fist fight. I see a sissy that shouldn't be fighting at all if they can't fight even 1 on 1.
I wouldn't go and start a fight with Kameron Wimbley, because I know dang well I couldn't take him. Rule #1, don't start it if you can't take the guy, and that means 1 on 1 with your fists.
So basically, you're condoning fighting, as long as it's not videotaped and it's just one on one?
No I wasn't condoning it, but if you have to fight, at least do it fairly. It's not a fight if your friends fight with you, it's a gang beating.
Well unless your fighting Chuck Norris, then your allowed to bring a small army.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
As Britney Spears knows all too well, Dr. Phil is ever ready to lend an ear and an opinion to those in distress. The TV doc is not in the practice of lending money, however.
A rep for Phil McGraw's syndicated talk-it-out fest says certain staffers, in anticipation of featuring the case on Dr. Phil, "went beyond" the show's guidelines by bailing out one of eight Central Florida teens jailed on suspicion of participating in a videotaped beating of a female classmate.
"We have helped guests and potential guests in the past when they need financial assistance to come on the show—assisting with clothing allowance, lost wages, accommodations, travel and necessities," Dr. Phil spokeswoman Terri Corigliano said in a statement obtained by E! News.
"In this case, certain staff members went beyond our guidelines (re the bail being paid). These staff members have been spoken to and our policies reiterated. In addition, we have decided not to go forward with the story as our guidelines have been compromised."
Dr. Phil employees posted bond for 17-year-old Mercades Nichols on Saturday, according to the Polk County Sherriff's Office. A judge had set bail amounts Friday of between $30,000 and $37,000 for the eight charged in the attack, all of whom are expected to be tried as adults.
The teens, six girls and two boys ranging in age from 14 to 18, are facing felony counts of witness tampering and kidnapping as well as misdemeanor battery charges stemming from the March 30 attack in Lakeland, Fla., footage of which ended up on MySpace, YouTube and other Internet sites.
TMZ has reported it was a seasoned Dr. Phil producer and a rather green production assistant who gave a bail bondsman $3,300—or, 10 percent of the $33,000 it cost to get Nichols out of jail, and that someone not affiliated with the show put up the rest of the collateral.
McGraw came under fire earlier this year for seemingly butting into the Britney Spears saga by paying her a visit while she was hospitalized at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center and then dishing out the details of their meeting to hungry reporters.
"The family basically extended an invitation of trust for him to come in as a resource to support them, not to go out and make public statements," Spears family spokesman Lou Taylor said on the Today show regarding the psychologist's loose-lipped ways. "Any statements publicly that he made, because he was brought in under this cloak of trust, are just inappropriate. We feel like, to set the record straight, we need to say that."
Needless to say, plans for an hour-long special about Spears' ongoing troubles were immediately scrapped.
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For the rest of time, the old foggies will complain about the young kids. Happened when my parents were young, it will happen when my kid is old. 
I took the first shot many times with guys twice my size, and got my butt stomped 
but never by the same guy twice, because they knew they were going to take a few good shots.