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They are going to allow several more doe's to get shot this season. You can again buy the antlerless tags and now you can use them after gun season.

The deer population is out of control. I'm guilty of just hunting for mature bucks like alot of guys. Somehow the ODNR has to get the herd to a mangable number.

I think that Ohio should go to the "earn a buck" system like Wisconsin where you must harvest a doe before you kill a buck. The other move that be made is antler restrictions, make it so a buck has to have 3 points on a side to be harvested. This would cut down on young bucks getting shot therefore producing bigger bucks. Also it will force hunters to kill more doe's.


I dunno how many hunters are on the boards but i'm curious what you guys think.

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I think it is a good idea to harvest does....they are part of the population surge.

Trophies are nice, but good eating meat is better, and doe meat is a little less wild in flavor.


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Speaking only for myself - I hunt deer for 1 reason - to eat deer. That big trophy buck? My wife wouldn't let me hang it in the house anyway, the meat isn't as good to eat...........plus, the bigger they are, the harder they are to get out of the woods.

So many hunters have this "macho" thing - gotta get a buck - a big buck. They almost look down on you if you get a doe or button buck. (button bucks taste mighty dang good).

I hunt deer to eat deer.

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I agree. I dont' see the point of hunting just to hang a big head on your wall. At least feed yourself.

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I have never harvested a animal I didn't plan to eat except of some bugs and a few birds as a kid, and some squirrels and chipmunks that like to munch on my deck.......squirrels and chipmunks should all die.


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Not woodchucks/groundhogs/whistlepigs?

I shoot alot of them, and no, I don't eat them.

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Not woodchucks/groundhogs/whistlepigs?

I shoot alot of them, and no, I don't eat them.




But please don't tell me you mount their heads on your wall. Cuz that's kinda scary.

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I have never harvested a animal I didn't plan to eat except of some bugs and a few birds as a kid, and some squirrels and chipmunks that like to munch on my deck.......squirrels and chipmunks should all die.




I hate squirrels. When I was a kid, I offered a squirrel some of my ice cream cone. Little guy pulled it out of my hands and started eating the cone. I tried to pet him and the thing bit me. Ungrateful SOB.

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Not woodchucks/groundhogs/whistlepigs?

I shoot alot of them, and no, I don't eat them.




But please don't tell me you mount their heads on your wall. Cuz that's kinda scary.




Nah, if a deer head won't get past my wife, you think a chucker would?

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I hunt do hunt for trophy bucks first then if I get my buck i'll shoot a doe or two...however I don't look down on hunters that shoot does, button bucks..etc.I didnt start out hunting like that, ive shot does and little bucks and was very happy with'em. Thats up to the hunters what they shoot. I only hunt what I eat. I love deer meat, even old bucks taste good if you butcher them properly and don't get them processed by some meat joint.

I have 3 mounts at my house, when I'm home from college my mom always complains but since my dad has 1 in the living room mine are safe.

Last year I ended up shooting a little 8 point, couldnt get a shot a nice one.

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After reading all the posts I find this rather intresting, First off 15 - 20 years ago who would have predicted we'd be having this discussion about over population and doe harvesting first in Ohio. Our states DNR has done an outstanding jbo bring back deer population in Ohio and doing it in a way we now are a leading state for producing trophy bucks, but with each sucess story brings out problems and doe over population is one of them, now the DNR and i applaud them are not gonna make a quick knee jerk reaction or knee jerk law to doe over population, becuase they know what is good for area C isnt good for area A, I live & hunt in area A with has a deer population of 4 deer per square mile, now area C has 22 deer per square mile..so the Ohio DNR need to be carefull how we thin out the heard. Careful year by year adjustment to the laws adding new subtracting those that dont will not only benefit us whitetail hunters next year but also in years to come. Lets enjoy what our father couldnt, and lets not be so quick to wanna change or adjust our laws. Also it dosent hurt to attend Ohio DNR meetings and be heard, and yes we do & can make a diffrence. I've attended a few, let my voice be heard and as a group have helped many diffrent legislation get pass or defeated, so if you say my voice dosent matter it dosent work, well your right, it dosent matter from your couch, you have to get up and attend.

lastly on the buck / doe hunting.....I have never understood this, getting a deer is hard enough, exspecially hunting public land in Northwest Ohio..I think Arch can attest to that..LOL, 4 deer per square mile and 6-10 hunters on that land....odd not in good favor....We do hunt a friends land in Defiance & Paulding counties, the last few year, anyway, for me it's all whats in view, and that what i teach my kids, Sure at the beginning of bow season we might pass up a smaller doe, but main reason is so we can get out again, or yes wait on that buck, but my kids understand that last for two - three weeks than it's fill the freezer time. I do believe taking a buck is over rated, but thats what sells on TV and magazines, real hunters know, there is no disgrace in harvesting a nice doe or smaller doe for eating, thats what hunters do, we hunt for the love of the outdoors first, we hunt but respect our harvest, we hunt to insure our kids and others coming behind us have things better than we had or more oppurtunities than we did, & we hunt to use what we kill, because we respect & admire what we harvest. I havent harvested anything in 4 years, yes I've given my kids the first chance, but really it's not about killing, it's about being there. i've had my chances, dont get me wrong, missed shot gun shot at 60 yards, ok three missed shots which my son was laughing so hard we sat there wondering what happened for 20 minutes, talking laughing, him telling me I stink at shot gun.....ya dont get that in front of a TV. also a 30 yard arrow shot which happened so fast I cant even go back and think about what I could have done diffrent it happened so fast. good times.

Back to regulations, Ohio in the 70's was told to save thier money, deer wouldnt thrieve in this state, populations would if lucky get around 400,000 with 75 % being in southern Ohio, Ohio would always be briadsmaids to Michigan & Indiana, well years later we've proved them wrong, mainly becuase Ohio didnt rush into changing things all at once, for good or bad, this doe tag did help last year, lets see what the numbers show after a whole year of the tag. Ohio has done a great job bringing back deer, lets take it slow and pay attention, if we pay attention we can adjust.




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In Pennsylvania, we've gone from a supposed surplus of deer to a supposed shortage. It depends on whom you ask. I think the numbers in PA are down because instead of a 2-week buck season followed by a 2 or 3 day doe season, we now have 2 concurrent weeks. Many people here, feel we're killing off too many deer. (Incidentally, a lot of my buddies who complain about this, shoot several each season themselves.) In PA you are allowed to take as many as 3 deer (1 antlered, 2 antlerless) each season in most cases. I really think the deer were just overpopulating and eating themselves out of food in a lot of areas.

So many people complain there aren't enough deer, but I don't think they vary their hunting strategies. I have an uncle who complains that he shot a deer out of his stand for 25 years in a row, but hasn't seen one out of that stand in the last 5 years. When I told him maybe he should try a new spot he looked at me like I was speaking another language. Deer adapt, and hunters have to as well. There are fewer deer here than 20 or 25 years ago, but it just makes it that much more rewarding to bag one.

My favorite complaint from hunters around here is that the PA Game Commission wants to kill off all the deer. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, let's kill off all the deer so we don't have a job anymore. I just think it's the attitude of wanting everything to be easy or instantly gratifying. Guess what, hunting isn't easy. It's hard work, and any deer you take is a trophy.

For what it's worth, I spend the early weeks of archery season waiting for a buck, but then it's meat time. I know you can't eat the antlers, but you can't hang the meat on the wall! I (to my wifes disgust!) display the rack of every buck I've killed - from a spike to an 11 point on my rec room wall. I'm just as proud of one as another. My wife asked me what I'll do if I fill the wall. I hope I have to deal with that situation some day!


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For what it's worth, I spend the early weeks of archery season waiting for a buck, but then it's meat time.




i'm with ya there, I figure with in a coule years I'm gonna be 99.9% of my time bow hunting, Shot gun is fun, but to me there is nothing even close to bow.

I've heard & read a few things about PA deer hunting and from somebody on the outside looking in, it seems like everybody complains about the laws but nobody wnats to be the first to step up and say hey hunters we need to change something here, whom ever that person is isnt gonna be very popular among hunters even if the hunters agree...but I have seen were people have said the deer have out grown thier habitate, such as you said. too many deer to little deer is always a good discussion....and ya..keep the meat off the walls

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