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The justices found that a president has immunity for "official acts", but is not immune for "unofficial acts", and referred the matter back to a trial judge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrrv8yg3nvo

It's not as cut and dry as you suggest which is what I pointed out in my previous post.


I certainly can't say that I disagree with that.


Sadly that may be what is required to undo all the damage he has done in such a short period of time and there's over three and half years to go. He figured how to rip the guardrails to tear it up so it may require that same scenario to repair the damage.


Nobody is going to do anything as long as he is still in office and the GOP hold both houses of congress. And no, they could care less about law and order because it doesn't go along with "what they feel is right".

I think we're actually pretty much on the same page here.

It's looking more and more like we are on our way to a dictatorship.

Again - that sounds good in threory but we're talking about an administration that invented a Fentanyl crisis on the Canadian border in order to push through his agenda. There was no Canadian border Fentanyl crisis and all the Trumptards thought it was great that Trump was flexing his muscles to get stuff done. Murica! If you think that the sycophants and Trumptards won't support whatever invented 'official' act he needs to justify peeing all over the constitution and whateve law he chooses to ignore and abuse - you are not being honest with yourself. I get what is supposed to happen - I'm just trying to be realistic. SC gave Trump a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants. Period.

I'm being perfectly honest with myself. You refer to what people think. I don't care what people "think and feel". I'm speaking about the law. And as anyone can plainly see, even right now the SCOTUS isn't giving him a free pass to do whatever he wants. All anyone has to do is read the SCOTUS rulings to see he did not get a free pass even now. He may not follow those rulings. But not only did the SCOTUS vote 9-0 he had to facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, in a 7-2 vote they stopped any further people being sent to prisons in El Salvador. If that's your perception of a free pass we have two very definitions of what that term means.

Wasn't the ruling that he has immunity? Wouldn't that mean that illegal acts are still illegal, but he just doesn't face any repercussions?

So how does that look in practice? The SC makes a ruling and the Potus ignore it while arguing he is carrying out official duties?

That's what I was getting at. I honestly don't know. Setting aside politics and right/wrong and such, it's an interesting hypothetical that looks like we'll have to figure out sooner rather than later.

I think when the POTUS defies a SCOTUS ruling most people have already figured it out. The SCOTUS is the very body that set the parameters for his power in regards to that immunity and described it as it applied to his official duties. Their ruling makes it obvious that they do not see what is happening as a part of his official duties or at the very least have to take a look at and rule if he has the power to use The Alien Enemies Act during peace time.

They are the law of the land and he is defying them.

So much for food safety...

US FDA suspends milk quality tests amid workforce cuts
Leah Douglas
Mon, April 21, 2025 at 5:13 PM EDT2 min read

By Leah Douglas

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The Food and Drug Administration is suspending a quality control program for testing of fluid milk and other dairy products due to reduced capacity in its food safety and nutrition division, according to an internal email seen by Reuters.

The suspension is another disruption to the nation's food safety programs after the termination and departure of 20,000 employees of the Department of Health and Human Services, which includes the FDA, as part of President Donald Trump's effort to shrink the federal workforce.

The FDA this month also suspended existing and developing programs that ensured accurate testing for bird flu in milk and cheese and pathogens like the parasite Cyclospora in other food products.

Effective Monday, the agency suspended its proficiency testing program for Grade "A" raw milk and finished products, according to the email sent in the morning from the FDA's Division of Dairy Safety and addressed to "Network Laboratories."

Grade "A" milk, or fluid milk, meets the highest sanitary standards.

The testing program was suspended because FDA's Moffett Center Proficiency Testing Laboratory, part of its division overseeing food safety, "is no longer able to provide laboratory support for proficiency testing and data analysis," the email said.

An HHS spokesperson said the laboratory was already set to be decommissioned before the staff cuts and though proficiency testing would be paused during the transition to a new laboratory, dairy product testing will continue.

The Trump administration has proposed cutting $40 billion from the agency.

The FDA's proficiency testing programs ensure consistency and accuracy across the nation's network of food safety laboratories. Laboratories also rely on those quality control tests to meet standards for accreditation.


"The FDA is actively evaluating alternative approaches for the upcoming fiscal year and will keep all participating laboratories informed as new information becomes available," the email said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-fda-suspends-milk-quality-211319846.html

The crazy thing is that the inspectors are paid for by the supplier.

Looks like Elon is stepping back:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/22...-will-drop-significantly-next-month.html

$2 trillion down to $150 billion. And we’re not even sure if that $150 billion is accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/22/health/fda-food-dyes/index.html

FDA says it will phase out petroleum-based food dyes, authorize four natural color additives

The US Food and Drug Administration plans to phase out the use of petroleum-based synthetic dyes in the US food supply due to health concerns, Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary announced Tuesday.

“For the last 50 years, American children have increasingly been living in a toxic soup of synthetic chemicals,” Makary said. “Now, there’s no one ingredient that accounts for the child chronic disease epidemic, and let’s be honest, taking petroleum-based food dyes out of the food supply is not a silver bullet that will instantly make America’s children healthy, but it is one important step.”

The dyes can be found in many candies, cereals, beverages and even in some medication. Companies use the dyes to give food and drinks brighter colors and make them more appealing.

For decades, research in animals has shown a potential link between artificial food dyes like red No. 3, red No. 40, blue No. 2 and green No. 3 and an increased risk of cancer or tumors. Other research shows that red No. 40 and yellow No. 5 and No. 6 contain or may be contaminated with known carcinogens.

Blue No. 1 and yellow No. 6 may be toxic to some human cells, and as little as 1 milligram of yellow No. 5 may cause irritability, restlessness and sleep disturbances for sensitive children. Some research has also shown connections between artificial food dyes and restlessness, trouble learning and attention problems in some children who are sensitive to some dyes.

I am sure there might be some exceptions, but as a common sense rule it is probably best to keep petrol as an additive you put in to your car or a lubrication oil of some sort and not something you ingest.

This type of thing is what I'm hoping for out of RFK.

If he follows through with this (and more) it will be worth it despite his quackery.

I’m not sure how Coca Cola or any other beverage co. is going to keep petroleum based oils in their plastic containers from absorbing into the drink. That’s going to be one avenue of litigation here. My guess is plastic drink containers will get a pass and they’ll continue to contaminate us and pollute our environment.

Some posters sound like the neighbor of a serial killer. "But he was such a nice man. He helped senior citizens by cutting their lawn and was always at the school board meetings."

Straight forward polymer chemistry for the containers, the real challenge can be the additives that have discontinued for the most part or the eventual breakdown of the polymer which can be a concern.

For anyone who still wants to keep up with my fed employee saga since the DOGE/new admin began, today we are out of paper towels again. Also, they have not turned on the HVAC. My 100+ year old building is sitting at a cool 83 degrees inside. Been like that since last week. Some people started packing shorts to wear. I've still got my slacks and button down on. Good times.

Man, if they only had another place we might be able to work to avoid stuff like this...

I'm keeping up with it. Anyone who can't see that these tactics are geared towards trying to get people to quit aren't paying attention.