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Manifest Destiny 2.0

Let's face it Swish, more of them than would ever admit it would expel all of us from the Unites States who do not share their view of what America should be if they thought for a single second they could get away with it.

I would too… tbh. A country with no fewer MTGs would be wondrous. And I’d put the entire leadership and staff behind the current coup in GITMO forever.

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Yet another difference between us. I have no problem with people that have other political beliefs than myself. My problem with them becomes when they try to inflict their political and religious beliefs into my or any other Americans life. No matter their beliefs we are all Americans.


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Me either, I just have a thing for punishing criminals that deserved to be punished. And traitors. Maybe a few idiots.

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I'm certainly not against prosecuting those who break the law. And that applies to anyone and everyone.


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btw, if we even attempt to do this, we lose whatever moral high ground when it comes to Russia invading Ukraine, or China invading Taiwan.


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Probably the plan, Swish.

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So in theory you wish for the Palestinians to be like Native Americans. Make a treaty and then break it. You worded that in a very odd way.

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During those peace treaties Gaza fell under Arab control politically.

Were you trying to say that Israel agreed to this as a part of the treaty? That this would be Palestinian land? It didn't just fall under Arab control.

1994: Gaza under Palestinian Authority

In May 1994, following the Palestinian-Israeli agreements known as the Oslo Accords, a phased transfer of governmental authority to the Palestinians took place.

Stop trying to rewrite history.

One would say that Hamas violated the treaty. There is no such country anymore called Palestine. Gaza is part of Israel. Israel has tried to have peace with them time and time again. Every time the Arabs violate the treaty. Tear it down, rebuild, and never allow October 7th to happen again. Make sure Hamas and all Hamas supports no longer exist. That lost that right.


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Do you not understand there are other groups operating in other countries neighboring Israel that are also attacking them? Hezbollah for one. Taking out Hamas will not heal what's going on in that region. Odds are it will serve to intensify it. So who are you feel fall under this description... "Hamas and all Hamas supports no longer exist"? Iran supports Hamas. Are you suggesting a war with Iran?

Your idea is far too simplistic and won't fix anything. Quite the opposite in fact.


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So what is Trump gonna do now that Hamas crossed his red line?


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Rumor has it he plans to build a resort there.


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So what is Trump gonna do now that Hamas crossed his red line?

He was asked that by a reporter the other day and he said, “I don’t know what Israel will do”. Between that and kissing Putin’s feet, I can now see what MAGA saw in him. Strongman leadership… you can’t make it up.

But he can still rock the mic with lies, dumbass ideas and stories. I’d like to see him get to the bottom of the Arnold Palmer penis size mystery… And personally settle the debate on which is worse, electric boats or being eaten by a shark.

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Israel vows to seize "large areas" of Gaza as renewed war with Hamas kills hundreds of Palestinians

Jerusalem — Israel's renewed military offensive in the Gaza Strip is "expanding to crush and clean the area" of militants and to seize "large areas that will be added to the security zones of the State of Israel," Defense Minister Israel Katz said in a written statement on Wednesday. The Israeli government has long maintained a buffer zone just inside Gaza along its security fence, which has greatly expanded since the war with Hamas was sparked by the groups Oct. 7, 2023 terrorist attack.

Israel says the buffer zone is needed for its security, but Palestinians view it as a land grab that further shrinks the narrow coastal territory, home to around 2 million people.

Katz didn't specify which areas of Gaza would be seized in the expanded operation, which he said includes the "extensive evacuation" of the population from fighting areas. His statement came after the Israeli military ordered all civilians to evacuate the southern city of Rafah and nearby areas — an order that came about two weeks after Israel abandoned a ceasefire that brokered by the U.S., Qatar and Egypt and resumed its bombardment of the Palestinian territory.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said Israel aims to maintain an open-ended but unspecified security control of the Gaza Strip once it achieves its aim of crushing Hamas.
"The only way to end the war"?

Katz called on Gaza residents to "expel Hamas and return all hostages." Hamas, long a U.S.- and Israeli-designated terrorist organization, still holds 59 captives, of whom 24 are believed to still be alive, after most of the rest were released in ceasefire agreements or other deals.

"This is the only way to end the war," Katz said.

The Hostage Families Forum, which represents most captives' families and has long pushed for an agreement to end the war and bring their loved ones home, disagreed with that assessment, however. The forum issued a statement saying the families were "horrified to wake up this morning to the Defense Minister's announcement about expanding military operations in Gaza."

The group said the Israeli government "has an obligation to free all 59 hostages from Hamas captivity — to pursue every possible channel to advance a deal for their release," and stressed that every passing day puts their loved ones' lives at greater risk.

"Their lives hang in the balance as more and more disturbing details continue to emerge about the horrific conditions they're being held in — chained, abused, and in desperate need of medical attention," said the forum, which called on the Trump administration and other mediators to continue pressuring Hamas to release the hostages.

"Our highest priority must be an immediate deal to bring ALL hostages back home — the living for rehabilitation and those killed for proper burial — and end this war," the group said.
Death and displacement in Gaza 16 days after Israel resumes war

Israel continued to target the Gaza Strip 16 days after abandoning the ceasefire, with airstrikes overnight killing 17 people in the southern city of Khan Younis, hospital officials said. Officials at the Nasser Hospital said the bodies of 12 people killed in an overnight airstrike that were brought to the hospital included five women, one of them pregnant, and two children. Officials at the Gaza European Hospital said they received five bodies of people killed in two separate airstrikes.
21 Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza
Palestinians mourn over loved ones killed in Israeli strikes at the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, southern Gaza, April 2, 2025. Hani Alshaer/Anadolu/Getty

The war was sparked by the Hamas-led terrorist attack on southern Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, which killed about 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and saw 251 others taken as hostages back into Gaza.

Israel's retaliatory war in Gaza has killed more than 50,400 Palestinians, including at least 1,066 killed since the ceasefire fell apart on March 18, according to Gaza's Hamas-run Health Ministry, which doesn't differentiate between civilian and combatant casualties.

Israel claims to have killed around 20,000 militants in Gaza, but it has not provided evidence.

As of March 23, more than 140,000 people had been displaced again since the end of the ceasefire, according to the latest U.N. estimate — and tens of thousands more are estimated to have fled under evacuation orders over the past week. Every time families have moved during the war, they have had to leave behind belongings and start nearly from scratch, finding food, water and shelter. Now, with no fuel entering due to an Israeli blockade, transportation is even more difficult, so many are fleeing with almost nothing.

"With each displacement, we're tortured a thousand times," said former university professor Ihab Suliman, who spoke of having to flee eight times during the war with this family.

Fleeing from Rafah on Monday, Hanadi Dahoud said she was struggling to find essentials.

"Where do we go?" she said. "We just want to live. We are tired. There are long queues waiting for bread and charity kitchens."

United Nations spokesman Stephane Dujarric said Tuesday that the U.N.'s myriad humanitarian aid agencies were "at the tail end of our supplies," forcing the World Food Program to close all 25 of its bakeries in Gaza due to a lack of flour and cooking fuel.

"WFP doesn't close its bakeries for fun," Dujarric said, adding that the food situation remained "very critical" since Israel closed all crossings into Gaza a month ago, cutting off virtually all humanitarian deliveries into the enclave.

COGAT, the Israeli military body in charge of civilian affairs in the Palestinian territories, said Tuesday that nearly 450,000 tons of aid entered Gaza during the ceasefire. COGAT claimed at least some of the aid from the U.N. and its humanitarian partners was being diverted to Hamas.

Dujarric rejected that saying: "The U.N. has kept a chain of custody, and a very good chain of custody, on all the aid."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestinians-deaths-displaced-after-ceasefire/


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Israeli soldier tells CBS News he was ordered to use Palestinians as human shields in Gaza

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Bodies of 8 Red Crescent medics found a week after Israeli soldiers fired at ambulances

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Palestinians protest Hamas in a rare public show of dissent in Gaza

Palestinians chanted against Hamas during anti-war protests in the Gaza Strip, witnesses said Wednesday, in a rare show of public anger against the militant group that has long repressed dissent and still rules the territory 17 months into the war with Israel.

Videos that appeared to be authentic showed hundreds of people taking part in a protest in the heavily destroyed northern town of Beit Lahiya on Tuesday. People held signs saying “Stop the war,” “We refuse to die” and “The blood of our children is not cheap.”

There were calls for more protests on Wednesday. At least one was held in the hard-hit Shijaiyah neighborhood of Gaza City, where dozens of men chanted “Out, out out! Hamas get out!”

“We are sick of the bombing, killing and displacement,” said Ammar Hassan, who took part in the protest on Tuesday.

He said it started as an anti-war protest with a few dozen people but swelled to more than 2,000, with people chanting against Hamas.

“It’s the only party we can affect,” he said by phone. “Protests won’t stop the (Israeli) occupation, but it can affect Hamas.”

The militant group has violently cracked down on previous protests. This time no outright intervention was apparent, perhaps because Hamas is keeping a lower profile since Israel resumed its war against it.

Senior Hamas official Bassem Naim, in a post on Facebook, wrote that people had the right to protest but that their focus should be on the “criminal aggressor,” Israel.
‘We want to stop the killing’

Family elders from Beit Lahiya expressed support for the protests against Israel’s renewed offensive and its tightened blockade on all supplies into Gaza. Their statement said the community fully supports armed resistance against Israel.

“The protest was not about politics. It was about people’s lives,” said Mohammed Abu Saker, a father of three from the nearby town of Beit Hanoun, who joined the demonstration.

“We want to stop the killing and displacement, no matter the price. We can’t stop Israel from killing us, but we can press Hamas to give concessions,” he said.

A similar protest occurred in the heavily destroyed area of Jabaliya on Tuesday, according to witnesses.

One protester in Jabaliya, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, said they joined the demonstration because “everyone failed us.”

They said they chanted against Israel, Hamas, the Western-backed Palestinian Authority and Arab mediators. They said there were no Hamas security forces at the protest but scuffles broke out between supporters and opponents of the group.

Later, they said they regretted participating because of Israeli media coverage, which emphasized the opposition to Hamas.

A 19-year-old Palestinian, who also spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution said he planned to join demonstrations on Wednesday. His mother has cancer and his 10-year-old brother is hospitalized with cerebral palsy, and he said the family has been displaced multiple times since their home was destroyed.

“People are angry at the whole world,” including the United States, Israel and Hamas, he said. “We want Hamas to resolve this situation, return the hostages and end this whole thing.”
Renewed fighting brings more death and displacement

The protests erupted a week after Israel ended its ceasefire with Hamas by launching a surprise wave of strikes that killed hundreds of people. Earlier this month, Israel halted deliveries of food, fuel, medicine and humanitarian aid to Gaza’s roughly 2 million Palestinians.

Israel has vowed to escalate the war until Hamas returns the 59 hostages it still holds — 24 of them believed to be alive. Israel is also demanding that the group give up power, disarm and send its leaders into exile.

Hamas has said it will only release the remaining captives in exchange for Palestinian prisoners, a lasting ceasefire and an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

The war was triggered by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack into Israel, in which Palestinian militants killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and abducted 251.

Israel’s retaliatory offensive has killed over 50,000 people, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry, which does not say how many were civilians or combatants. Israel’s bombardment and ground operations have caused vast destruction and at their height displaced some 90% of Gaza’s population.

Hamas won a landslide victory in the last Palestinian elections, held in 2006. It seized power in Gaza from the Western-backed Palestinian Authority, dominated by the secular Fatah movement, the following year after months of factional unrest and a week of heavy street battles.

Rights groups say both the Palestinian Authority and Hamas violently suppress dissent, quashing protests in the areas they control and jailing and torturing critics.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation...in-a-rare-public-show-of-dissent-in-gaza


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If I weren't an American citizen, showing this video might make me a target of deportation while they claim this would be me "aligning with a terrorist organization". News flash. The Palestinian people are not a terrorist organization.


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Careful Pit, they’ve already stopped and detained a number of US citizens trying to meet deportation quotas and the administration did not care. I don’t think they would think twice before sending a critic of dear leader to El Salvador, if they think they could get away with it. A purge of “radical left extremist” would roll off their tongues like a “hell yeah, hold my beer” rolls off a rednecks.

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“hell yeah, hold my beer” rolls off a rednecks.

What are you trying to say? I don't even drink alcohol now. I haven't for many years. naughtydevil


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The World Food Programme has run out of food in Gaza

Israel’s complete blockade has passed seven weeks, and “people are running out of ways to cope,” the U.N. agency said. “The fragile gains made during the short ceasefire have unravelled.”

The World Food Programme has run out of food, the United Nations agency said Friday, 54 days after Israel imposed a complete blockade on the Gaza Strip.

“Today, WFP delivered its last remaining food stocks to hot meals kitchens in the Gaza Strip. These kitchens are expected to fully run out of food in the coming days,” it said in a statement on Friday.

Since Israel imposed its blockade on March 2, stopping the entry of humanitarian aid and commercial goods into the enclave, WFP has been the only steady source and the largest provider of hot meals in Gaza.

Only a few smaller agencies are still providing food in Gaza, including World Central Kitchen, which said in a post on Facebook Saturday that it was “working nonstop to stretch flour supplies and bake as much bread as possible” inside its bakery, the last one still operating in Gaza.
ith all border crossings closed, no humanitarian or commercial supplies, including more than 116,000 tons of food from the WFP waiting at aid corridors, have entered Gaza in more than seven weeks, the aid agency said.

“This is the longest closure the Gaza Strip has ever faced, exacerbating already fragile markets and food systems,” it said, adding: “People are running out of ways to cope, and the fragile gains made during the short ceasefire have unravelled.”

The news comes after the WFP in late March said that all of its 25 bakeries in the Gaza Strip had shut down because of a lack of fuel and flour in the territory.

Israel says its blockade is crucial to its goal of weakening Hamas’ control over the population, while Israeli officials have repeatedly stated there is “no shortage” of aid in Gaza and accused the militant group of withholding supplies.

After a meeting at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate with senior Republican Party officials, Israel’s far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said on X Wednesday, “They expressed support for my very clear position on how to act in Gaza and that the food and aid depots should be bombed in order to create military and political pressure to return our hostages home safely.”

The Israeli government has been accused of using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the Gaza Strip, which the U.N. said could amount to war crimes under international humanitarian law.

With essential food commodities including safe water and cooking fuel in short supply, more than 2 million people in Gaza now face an acute risk of starvation, epidemic disease and death, WFP warned.

The extreme food insecurity has also raised serious nutrition concerns for vulnerable populations, including children under the age of 5, pregnant women and the elderly.

The Global Nutrition Cluster, a coalition of humanitarian groups, warned that in March alone, 3,708 children were identified for acute malnutrition, out of 84,000 children screened — a marked increase from February, when 2,053 children were admitted from a total of 92,000 screened, the U.N.’s humanitarian office for Palestinians said in a report on Thursday.

Video footage posted by the WFP showed depleted food stocks in a warehouse in Gaza, and children lining up at food stands to receive hot meals and bread. The agency said that despite providing a “critical lifeline” to those in need, it had reached just half the population in Gaza.

With food prices inside the strip also skyrocketing to 1,400% of prices during the ceasefire, people are now being forced to scavenge for items to burn for cooking, the WFP said.

More than 51,000 people have been killed in Gaza, including thousands of children, according to the local health ministry, since Israel launched its offensive in the enclave following the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas-led attacks.

Some 1,200 people were killed during the attacks in southern Israel and around 250 taken hostage, marking a major escalation in a decadeslong conflict.

The situation has raised widespread concerns among international NGOs and U.N. agencies working in Gaza, with the CEOs of 12 major aid organizations in mid-April warning of aid systems collapsing as the humanitarian crisis in Gaza reached the worst levels in 18 months.

“Famine is not just a risk, but likely rapidly unfolding in almost all parts of Gaza,” the CEOs said in a statement posted by Oxfam, adding: “Let us do our jobs.”

On Thursday, the foreign ministers of France, Germany and the United Kingdom also urged Israel to restart the flow of humanitarian aid into Gaza. “Palestinian civilians — including one million children — face an acute risk of starvation, epidemic disease and death. This must end,” they said in a statement.

They added, “We urge Israel to immediately re-start a rapid and unimpeded flow of humanitarian aid to Gaza in order to meet the needs of all civilians.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/world-food-programme-food-stocks-depleted-gaza-rcna203183


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The only reason BeBe is still at war with Gaza right now is to hold on to his power. Elections have been cancelled since the beginning of the war. Something to look forward to in the US.


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