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At first, I thought this was satire...

Who the hell do you think they want in the fields? Poor minorities and kids. WHY? Because they can make them work for less. And because MAGA is too white privileged, lazy, and just plain stupid. You might not like the words she chooses, but she still telling you the truth.

100. She's starting to remind of a guy named Donald Trump. Well, a Trump with poor leadership skills, she openly admits her office has no plan or agenda whatsoever. Declared it, actually.

If you shake your head while laughing, does that make it satire, still? These are the questions that need answering.

Damn, she be our best and brightest-- who she be talking to....egebecating. Pray for us.

Only difference is that nobody was stupid enough to elect her president.

Trump administration invokes state secrets privilege in deportations case and refuses to give judge additional information

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...ses-to-give-judge-additional-information

Imagine if you will an administration stupid enough to call having to show evidence the people they accuse of being gang members are actually gang members a "state secrets" while sharing miitary attack plan details with a reporter was no big deal.

Murica!

Does the minority in congress need a plan or agenda to call out the out right idiocy of the majority exerting it’s will and power? NOPE. The plan and agenda of everyone on the left right now is to preserve our democracy from this hostile oligarchic self coup. And Trump never tells the truth, he plays on your fears and pretends to understand your lives. That idiot thinks you can charge groceries if you are broke. Trump has literally never suffered a money issue in his life. You might not like Crockett for being black, female, or outspoken… but at least she is real and actually cares about working people.

Oh no, Dems are the minority... waaaaah.


They're doing about as good of a job preserving our democracy as they did keeping Trump out of a second term.

So vote 3rd party. But don’t whine to me, I don’t care about your views on the left. Opinions are like…

And if you seriously think I agree with most of the left, you’re sadly mistaken. I can’t stand the ultra left cuckoos nor the centrist yuppy republicans pretending to be dems. And no PIT that wasn’t a shot at you, so no need to stalk me. I align mainly with the progressives like Bernie, AOC, and others. I can’t stand Jayapal and don’t think she’s a progressive. I don’t think Kamala is progressive, but I do like her most of the time. Jon Ossoff, Josh Shapiro, Jasmine Crockett, Tim Walz, Jamie Raskin, Ted lieu, Ro Khanna, Maxwell Frost, Adam Schiff, Dan Goldman, and Eric Swalwell are the among my favorite politicians. Walz is new to the list, but he is truly for the people and I like him. Didn’t really know much about him before 24.

Along with Jayapal, I don’t care for Omar, Tlaib, Waters, Pelosi, or Jeffries. I do like Moskowitz most of the time, but I think he’s more liberal to centrist. He gives MAGA hell and I appreciate it. I was also no fan of electing Biden, I thought he was qualified and was surprised by how progressive he was at times.

There used to be some centrist republicans I liked, but most were run out by MAGA. And far left idiots like Jill Stein and the green party or Marianne Williamson irritate me to no end.

At the end of the day though, I’ll vote for who I feel represents me the best. And I don’t see any republicans fitting that bill until they move more toward center and off this fascist crap. Now maybe you will understand me better. I like politicians that put people first in the political equation whenever possible. I will fight for gay rights, trans rights, equal rights and women’s rights etc. but don’t care for one issue politicians that push that crap in your face day in day out. I think there is room for everybody in America, not just white Christians. I didn’t like the violence and destruction associated with the BLM marches but suspect MAGA hate groups for causing much of that.

But the thing that really made me despise MAGA was J6. That and all the damn lying, denying, and acting like America owes them something. I wouldn’t tolerate those obnoxious people in my own life, why would I want them running my country? I just want an America with a mostly level playing field where hard working people can get ahead and build a little generational wealth. That is being destroyed. I want a fair America where the size of your bank account doesn’t mean some get and some don’t when it comes to things like Healthcare, Shelter, Food, Clothing, Education, Comms, and Transportation. These are the baseline for me to feel like everyone has a chance, and that’s what I want America to be. And I do like capitalism with a social safety net and social check and balances. I’m also unopposed to many of the traditional values GOPers tout. I want a strong military, secure borders with a working form of immigration, I want kids to be treated with the utmost decency and not be made to feel lesser due to the shade of their skin, religion, political affiliation of their parents, etc. I want free speech, but the misinformation and outright lies need to be curbed. I think hate speech is a society killer and want it banned. That doesn’t mean I don’t want you to speak your mind as you need to, but do it mindfully of others and with at least a modicum of civility.

I’d like to see an America more like when I came up, full of kool-aid yards with lots of bikes, same for a kid to walk across town, and a place where forgetting to lock your door won’t get you murdered in your sleep. An economy with upward mobility where you make enough to not have to kill yourself to make ends meet. A place to raise kids and not have to be worried all the damn time. I want an economy that works for everyone, including the wealthy and dirt poor. So, I don’t think I differ much from the average American regardless of politics.

You think progressives aren't the ultra left cuckoos?

Not as much as libertarian-tards are on the right.

Supreme Court says Trump administration must work to bring back mistakenly deported Maryland man

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Thursday said the Trump administration must work to bring back a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to prison in El Salvador, rejecting the administration’s emergency appeal.

The court acted in the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran citizen who had an immigration court order preventing his deportation to his native country over fears he would face persecution from local gangs.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis had ordered Abrego Garcia, now being held in a notorious Salvadoran prison, returned to the United States by midnight Monday.

“The order properly requires the Government to ‘facilitate’ Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador,” the court said in an unsigned order with no noted dissents.

It comes after a string of rulings on the court’s emergency docket where the conservative majority has at least partially sided with Trump amid a wave of lower court orders slowing the president’s sweeping agenda.

In Thursday’s case, Chief Justice John Roberts had already pushed back Xinis’ deadline. The justices also said that her order must now be clarified to make sure it doesn’t intrude into executive branch power over foreign affairs, since Abrego Garcia is being held abroad. The court said the Trump administration should also be prepared to share what steps it has taken to try to get him back — and what more it could potentially do.

The administration claims Abrego Garcia is a member of the MS-13 gang, though he has never been charged with or convicted of a crime. His attorneys said there is no evidence he was in MS-13.

The administration has conceded that it made a mistake in sending him to El Salvador, but argued that it no longer could do anything about it.

The court’s liberal justices said the administration should have hastened to correct “its egregious error” and was “plainly wrong” to suggest it could not bring him home.

“The Government’s argument, moreover, implies that it could deport and incarcerate any person, including U. S. citizens, without legal consequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, joined by her two colleagues.

Abrego Garcia’s wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, said the ordeal has been an “emotional rollercoaster” for their family and the entire community.

“I am anxiously waiting for Kilmar to be here in my arms, and in our home putting our children to bed, knowing this nightmare is almost at its end. I will continue fighting until my husband is home,” she said.

One of his lawyers, Simon Sandoval-Moshenburg, said “tonight, the rule of law prevailed,” and he encouraged the government to “stop wasting time and get moving.”

In the district court, Xinis wrote that the decision to arrest Abrego Garcia and send him to El Salvador appears to be “wholly lawless.” There is little to no evidence to support a “vague, uncorroborated” allegation that Abrego Garcia was once in the MS-13 street gang, Xinis wrote.

The 29-year-old was detained by immigration agents and deported last month.

He had a permit from the Homeland Security Department to legally work in the U.S. and was a sheet metal apprentice pursuing a journeyman license, his attorney said. His wife is a U.S. citizen.

Tricia McLaughlin, assistant DHS secretary for public affairs, said Thursday that the justices’ order for clarification from the lower court was a win for the administration. “We look forward to continuing to advance our position in this case,” she said.

A Justice Department spokesman said the court had “directly noted the deference owed to the Executive Branch” in foreign affairs.

An immigration judge had previously barred the U.S. from deporting Abrego Garcia to El Salvador in 2019, finding that he faced likely persecution by local gangs.

A Justice Department lawyer conceded in a court hearing that Abrego Garcia should not have been deported. Attorney General Pam Bondi later removed the lawyer, Erez Reuveni, from the case and placed him on leave.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-maryland-deportation-trump-9f46dd62890befdc321ed1ab56107470

How do you "advance your case" after the SCOTUS has already ruled? This simply seems to suggest they plan to defy an order from the SCOTUS.

Good luck with that. The dictator has spoken. Nobody on Capitol Hill has the nads to go against him.

I don't think anyone should be put into the El Salvador prison except gang bangers and violent criminals. That place is brutal. Non-violent illegals should be deported to their own country. If this guy was here legally, then yes, they should bring him back.

Well look who found a small piece of her heart. Yes, Eve, I must give you crap while applauding your post, else you might think I care…

It's just common sense.

Yet that’s not what you voted for.

It's exactly what I voted for.

-Men don't belong in women's sports or women's locker rooms.
-Borders should be closed and immigrants required to come here in an orderly legal fashion.
-People here illegally should have their asses deported.
-People should protest non-violently and not affecting the civil and legal rights of others.
-People should be hired based on merit and not based on the color of their skin or sexuality.

All common sense. I know that's difficult for hysterical libtards to comprehend.

lol..if that’s what you think you got.

And you were doing so well to this point. So from your post I suppose you would agree trump shouldn't have pardoned the Jan. 6th violent criminals then?

A mistake was made. I agree, we need to bring him back...at least to Guantanamo where he will find conditions much better..

What did he do exactly that you feel he deserves to be in Guantanamo for? You realize there are penalties and laws already established for entering our country illegally and Guantanamo isn't one of them.

We gotta stop doing this nonsense when we start finding common ground with each other.

Exactly. Her reply to immigration was at least a very solid middle ground. A well thought out and civil response. I'm all for disagreeing on the issues. I understand there are many fundamental policy differences between to the two parties. But it went from a civil response by Eve back to where it usually ends up." Libtards" And while I have never said this, in this case it was her pushing back in her own defense after people just can't seem to be civil when common ground is found. I'm not sure how we'll ever get anywhere under those conditions.

I’ll stand by my comment. Common sense isn’t what Trump supporters voted for. And it’s definitely not what they’re getting.

You're entitled to your opinion the same as anyone else is. I don't really disagree with that but that really had nothing to do with the comment she made regarding immigration.

By libtard standards, J6 was a mostly peaceful protest. Libtards loot, vandalize, burn down property, and commit other felonies on the regular as standard protest practice. The majority of what J6 was, was to occupy a building. Oh the horror. So, I have no problem with the pardons. When libtard rioters start paying for their crimes I'll start caring about J6.

Are you saying that law enforcement isn't looking for them and they won't be tried for their crimes? And if so, should they be pardoned? And of all the people arrested during the George Floyd riots, how many of them were pardoned for their crimes? And can you tell me anyone who has suggested people shouldn't be arrested and punished for their crimes? I mean other than the vandals and those who assaulted police officers on Jan. 6th?

What happened to your common sense?

Even Tarrio’s pardon?

She also forgot about all the vandalism that was done in the Capital. Unless she still believes that crazy conspiracy that it was actually liberals who attacked the capital.

Like I said: When libtard rioters start paying for their crimes I'll start caring about J6. I have never seen any of you condemn libtard rioters committing crimes.

Then you haven't been paying attention. During the BLM protests every liberal on this board said anyone found guilty of committing crimes should be prosecuted and pay for the crimes they committed. Over 300 of them faced federal charges for those crimes while even more of them faced state charges and local charges. By then end of June, 2020 over 14,000 people had been arrested.

The same goes for those who commit crimes in the Tesla protests. Anyone who has committed crimes should certainly prosecuted for their crimes. Three of them have been so far and investigations are under way to find more of them. If you haven't seen liberals paying for their crimes it's because you haven't been paying attention.

Then just last night the governor of Pennsylvania, a democrat, had his home set on fire with him, his wife and his children inside their home. Do you care about that?

I've never seen any libtard on this forum condemn libtard crimes. EVER. You all silently support violence.

Like I said, then you haven't been paying attention. Your claim was "When libtard rioters start paying for their crimes". I've shown you that they have so now you want to switch the conversation in another direction. Typical.

That is a flat out lie. Pit and I and others have always called for laws to be upheld. Didn't matter if it was writing and looting orvandalism during black lives matter protests. Or more recently, with teslas, being vandalized and dealerships being Set on fire. Find the people that are perpetrators and prosecute them.

Too bad That's not something that the republicans Trumptsrds like yourself want to do these days.

Not really, libtards get away with violence on the regular, and libtards on this forum never condemn their ilk's violence.