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Glad we didn't sign him, but never really thought it was a realistic possibility.
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Or they might not, if they see a QB they like who’ll be available when they pick. This is a weird draft at the top, considering all the particulars.
Not a good QB class, then you have the number of teams who need one, and the number of veteran quarterbacks seen as “bridge”.
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I read he wanted 20 mil. Glad someone else paid him.
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Yep. Apparently we weren’t in the sweepstakes. Ever. Which old QBs remain, besides Flacco?
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Not sure if Wilson would be ok with a Cousins situation arising?
He is getting a one year deal so who knows maybe he is ok with that?
This draft may go sideways. Maybe quarterbacks get passed over in the top fifteen then there is a scramble for guys.
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I don't have interest in watching retread quarterbacks. None of them.
Wilson was run out of Denver. Then the Steelers had no serious interest in keeping him.
The Eagles took a deal to get DTR and let Pickett walk. Wentz has been passed around.
Rodgers will probably sign with the Steelers.
Until we draft a guy and see what he can do it is hard to get excited.
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I could see them drafting Hunter as an enticement to land Cousins in a trade. No fast-starting young QB to compete with, a couple more line pieces and a RB in the draft plus Hunter. That might look to Cousins.
I agree, all the retreads come off like waving a white flag. Cousins is the only one who offers more than a 20% chance of breaking even. But not much more.
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Really the Watson experience is something the team never, ever wants to repeat. Affecting on and off the field. Need a QB in the long haul as well as one that has great character. Watson era is over but the team need to really make it official.
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Cam Ward is back on the menu!
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Really the Watson experience is something the team never, ever wants to repeat. Affecting on and off the field. Need a QB in the long haul as well as one that has great character. Watson era is over but the team need to really make it official. It's unofficially official. To make it officially final we probably have to wait until June 1 of next year.
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I don't have interest in watching retread quarterbacks. None of them.
Wilson was run out of Denver. Then the Steelers had no serious interest in keeping him.
The Eagles took a deal to get DTR and let Pickett walk. Wentz has been passed around.
Rodgers will probably sign with the Steelers.
Until we draft a guy and see what he can do it is hard to get excited. I'm not trying to be an A Hole here, but it sounds like you are saying, evaluate the rookies and take the best one at #2 no matter what? That's a slippery slope if none of them grade out. I think it's pretty obvious that if they graded out, they would be the pick. But, if you take one just on the basis of need and he misses, then you are screwed for another 4 years. If you look at draft history the odds are a QB is not going to get to a second contract anyway, but if you draft one with a second round grade at #2 overall, you are really asking for failure, imho. On the other hand, there are a handful of players that are quite obviously top 5 graded players, that raises your success rate significantly. As for retreads.. If it isn't a rookie, that is your only option besides waiting for Watson to heal. Looking at, with experience: Aaron Rodgers (NOPE) Drew Lock (I certainly hope not) Joe Flacco Carson Wentz Teddy Bridgewater Then.. Case Keenum Tyler Huntley Desmond Ridder Etc.. OR the trade route of Kirk Cousins My top 2 choices are Kirk Cousins, then Joe Flacco... But I think we are heading towards a Carson Wentz in 2025 and probably a rookie drafted in the second round.
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If your vet FA starter is going to be Wentz... why do you even bother? Just start the rookie because they're going to be playing by mid-season anyway.
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I don't want Wentz at all. He was cooked like 5 years ago
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Steelers' Art Rooney II on Aaron Rodgers pursuit: 'All signs are positive' QB is headed to Pittsburgh Published: Apr 01, 2025 at 12:46 PM https://www.nfl.com/news/aaron-rodgers-steelers-art-rooney-ii-positive-signsEric Edholm Lead Draft Writer Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our Aaron Rodgers-to-Pittsburgh updates. Steelers president Art Rooney II offered an incremental update on his team's pursuit of the future Hall of Fame quarterback on Tuesday at the Annual League Meeting, inching closer to the free agent Rodgers potentially joining the team. "We keep hearing that he's, I guess, headed in our direction," Rooney said, via ESPN's Brooke Pryor, "and so that seems to (indicate that) all signs are positive so far." Positive, true, but hardly settled. Rooney admitted that the drawn-out process has gone on longer than anticipated after Rodgers and the team first met nearly two weeks ago. "Didn't envision it taking this long," Rooney said. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said Sunday that there was “no timetable” for Rodgers and the Steelers to make a decision. But there's also only so much sand in the glass. The Steelers aren't willing to wait indefinitely for Rodgers' decision. "Not forever," Rooney said Tuesday, "but a little while longer."
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If your vet FA starter is going to be Wentz... why do you even bother? Just start the rookie because they're going to be playing by mid-season anyway. With this rookie class, I wouldn't be so sure. Maybe with Jalen Milroe because of his special skillset, but none of the others have the start me now tools. I am not a Carson Wentz fan. I think he is capable of getting us 7-8 wins. With a rookie, I think we will be right back at the top of the draft list in 2026. The story line reads, "What does Berry and Stefanski have to do to keep their jobs?" I think they need 6-8 wins in 2025 to be given leeway. If they take a QB at #2, I give them 25 games... If they go the veteran route, I give them 22 games. Either way, I think they are going to start the 2026 season, but if they don't have a MASSIVE turnaround to start that season(first 5 games), Haslem will be pulling them quickly to get a jump on the next regime. If they get 7-8 wins in 2025, they have saved their jobs for a full 2026 season, imho. Haslem has taken the blame on Watson. Either he is giving them a pass on bad football because of it, or he feels he can't entice good replacements because of the mess they are in because of it. Either way, if the Browns manage to get 9 wins on the season, they will be given full pardon for the 2026 season... I think 7-8 wins might be enough to do it. A rookie isn't getting you 7 wins. Wentz is probably capable of that if they go early in on RB to fix the hole left by Chubb. If they go QB in the 2nd, Wentz probably won't get you to 7 wins either. They are going to need a running game to get those wins.
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I think Pickett will be the starting QB for 2025. They will draft a QB (not at #2), at #33 (Milroe) or trading back into the 1st round (Dart).
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I think Pickett will be the starting QB for 2025. They will draft a QB (not at #2), at #33 (Milroe) or trading back into the 1st round (Dart). That's so depressing
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Looks like we picked a bad QB draft class to have the #2 pick when we need a QB. Like that time Lloyd Bridges picked a bad week to quit smoking.
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