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You do? I don't think I ever posted about that then? Please point me in the right direction, or at least tell me what you remember about it, I think you are mistaken.

Am I as outraged about Hegseth's wife attending a meeting? Nope... but it's worth asking... does she smoke crack, send d*ck pics, evade taxes, lie about everything, sell influence to the Chinese and bang her sister's husband? Some affirmative answers to those questions may change my mind.

As a general rule, I cannot find old posts, not even my own.
But there were numerous posts of outrage at that time
Maybe they weren't from you
Regardless, you stated it yourself in the post above so why would I doubt it's veracity?
So if it makes you feel better, take my you as a pleural you

"does she smoke crack, send d*ck pics, evade taxes, lie about everything, sell influence to the Chinese and bang her sister's husband?"
I don't know that she does.
Do you know that she doesn't?

Anyway, I was referring to the hiring of his brother

But you make it clear that no, you don't have any outrage

Sadly, and this is more of a fault of the system than anything else, there is no nepotism bans for POTUS, hence all the Trump kids during Admin 1 and Hunter as well.

However, there is a nepotism ban for Government officials like Hegseth over positions which they control. I’m not sure if he loop-holed out of it and made it so his brother technically works for DHS or not. However, I’m not aware of the last instance, or any instance, where nepotism like this has taken place at the cabinet director level.

It does ring a lot more foul when he fires a CoS citing merit and then hires his brother for a top role.

I’d be curious if his brother outranks me. If he’s on the GS scale he wouldn’t, but it would be kinda funny to see if he was named as an SES or something.

Did anything Hunter Biden do put the lives of people he was in charge of in danger? Did Hegseth?

If any level of military personnel had done this, automatic 10-20 in Leavenworth, minimum. I think everyone in the admin on that chat should face the same.

And if not for the absolutely ridiculous cucked GOPers in congress, Trump would be doing his own time for acts of sedition.

Ahh, so as long as no one's life is in danger, crackheads should be allowed to sit in on meetings in the White House. That's a strange set of criteria, but whatever floats your boat.

Crackheads sitting in on White House meeting is not the fault of the system.

You talking about Hegseths wife sitting in on a high level meeting? I didn’t scroll back to see…

Then why would you say you remembered it? You can dance around it now, doesn't change the fact that you lied about something I said.

Interesting that you think I should prove his wife doesn't do any of that as impetus for assuming it's not true. You sound like Pit. Sadly, all of the crackhead's incidents are documented. Most of them by himself, if you can wrap your head around that.

And no, I'm not outraged about that either.

Try to form a defense of current events without mentioning Biden sometime. I am not sure you can.

That's rich.

Biden isn’t president. Biden and Hillary were NEVER charged. They are also no threat or ongoing threat to our democracy. Can you say the same for the tangerine tyrant? NOPE.

How do you sit with him cozying up with Putin? Attacking our closest and oldest allies/neighbors? You good with the crashing planes, gutting institutions, ending social services, his tariff tsunamis, sending people to foreign labor camp prisons, talking like anyone who doesn’t fall in line with him can be deported, and literally killing/starving people? This is your guy, so I just want to know what you truly stand for? I get the feeling you don’t like him any more than me in one post then the next you defend them.

That’s the takeaway comment. Lord almighty.

trump administration screws the pooch once again.….but it’s ….Biden Biden Biden. you Gopers crack me up.

We had to hear about Trump for the last 8 years. So guess what. You get to hear about Biden. He was so terrible, we will be sure to point it out to you, so you don't forget. And maybe you'll vote smarter next time. (I doubt it)

Trump screws up and it’s on Biden Goper’s crack me up. Crap happens on trumps watch, nothing to see here. The convict is free to ruin all of US.

This is worth repeating

Try to form a defense of current events without mentioning Biden sometime. I am not sure you can.

Much like you couldn't keep Trump out of your mouth for the last 8 years.

And after every post that mentioned Trump you complained ... And you weren't smart enough to acknowledge that as the presumptive favourite for the Republican nomination in the upcoming election, Trump was extremely relevant.

I guess if you think Biden is relevant today maybe it means you think he's going to be running for president in another 4 years..... Maybe you just need to deflect. Trumptard say: gobble gobble gobble.

I know how desperate you are to avert attention away from reality. You wish to pick one incident out of three to attack as if it's not part of a pattern of behavior. In and of itself I would say his wife sitting in on these meetings wouldn't be a big deal. Not wise and shouldn't have happened the same as Hunter but it would be an isolated incident.

That's not what we have here. Hegesth wasn't confirmed until Jan. 25th. In less than two months he had a reporter sitting in a chat chain giving out details of a military attack on Yemen. He installed his brother who has zero experience with anything to do with defense installed in a high level position at the DOD AND had his wife sit in on those meetings.

You're not so blind you can't see a clear pattern of ineptitude there. At least you didn't used to be.

I still seem to remember you addressing the Hunter thing.
Maybe I am misremembering and it was another poster I am confusing you with.
Like I said, I have tried in the past to look for old posts and cannot


Regardless you said yourself on page 16 of this thread that you are outraged


"It's not delayed. I was outraged at the time. Demented president and his crackhead son running the country, everyone on the left whistling dixie. "That's the best version of Joe Biden there's ever been"."


And you ere the one to make the comparision.
Also page 16 of this thread


"Remember when crack head Hunter Biden was sitting in on meetings in the White House for over a week?

Don't worry, Karine Jean-Pierre said he didn't see any classified info... not that he needed to see it there... it was right next to his crack pipe by a pile of junk in daddy's garage.

#morefakeoutrage"

So first you were outraged at the hunter biden thing
Now you aren't
And clearly you have no outrage with the republicans doing this

Oh, the irony.

You're spending a lot of time trying to prove a point that's not there. This place has the combined reading comprehension of a blind goat. I AM outraged. I just know you didn't read anything like you said you did. Now you're "misremembering". Gotcha. I knew I didn't post anything because I had already tossed in the towel with most of this stuff. The loony-left (you) was already to the point where Joe could walk out of the WH, take a poop in the Rose Garden, wipe his azz with a cue card, and y'alls would say he stuttered.

You proved a point that was already proven. I was outraged that a crack head was sitting in on WH meetings.

Anything else?

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

That is soooo funny.

Have ever considered dressing as a clown and entertaining second graders?

I'm not trying to compete with you in your occupation. Hiring clowns isn't as popular as it used to be and I would never try to interfere with you making a living.

Pit made a funny!

Somebody had to do it. Taking up your slack is quite a chore.

Let's try this one again.......................

I know how desperate you are to avert attention away from reality. You wish to pick one incident out of three to attack as if it's not part of a pattern of behavior. In and of itself I would say his wife sitting in on these meetings wouldn't be a big deal. Not wise and shouldn't have happened the same as Hunter but it would be an isolated incident.

That's not what we have here. Hegesth wasn't confirmed until Jan. 25th. In less than two months he had a reporter sitting in a chat chain giving out details of a military attack on Yemen. He installed his brother who has zero experience with anything to do with defense installed in a high level position at the DOD AND had his wife sit in on those meetings.

You're not so blind you can't see a clear pattern of ineptitude there. At least you didn't used to be.

#freepost

Lankford asks for ‘Signalgate’ investigation, dismisses Hegseth resignation calls as ‘overkill’

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) asks questions during a Joint Senate Judiciary and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing at the Capitol on Tuesday, July 30, 2024, to examinee the security failures during former President Trump’s assassination attempt on July 13.

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said he believes there should be an investigation into the Trump administration’s use of a Signal chat for official business but stopped short of calling for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to resign, calling it “overkill.”

“It’s entirely appropriate for the inspector general to be able to look at it and be able to ask two questions,” Lankford said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“One is, obviously, how did a reporter get into this thread in the conversation, and the second part of the conversation is, when individuals in the administration are not sitting at their desk in a classified setting on a classified computer, how do they communicate to each other?” he said, questioning if encrypted apps were the right way to communicate.

Top Trump administration officials have received sharp scrutiny after it was revealed The Atlantic’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, was added to a Signal group chat where they were discussing an upcoming attack on the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

Hegseth initially denied that any war plans were communicated via the app, but The Atlantic released a second round of screenshots from the chat that showed him detailing the time, location and weapons used in the strike.

Democrats quickly called for investigations and for Hegseth to resign, though the administration has backed the secretary and others in the group chat amid the blowback.

Lankford said he doesn’t see the instance as “much of an issue” because the officials in the group chat believed it was a closed circle.
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“This is normal communication on it. What’s not normal is having a reporter in the middle of it,” he said.

Host Dana Bash pressed the Oklahoma senator on whether he had doubts about Hegseth’s leadership.

“No … I don’t see this as an issue of leadership,” he said. “I’ve heard some people calling for his resignation, I think that’s way overkill.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5222198-james-lankford-signal-chats-hegseth/

White House says Signal case is "closed," as investigation calls grow

The Trump administration has taken action to ensure a Signal group chat that inadvertently included The Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg can never happen again, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday.

Why it matters: There have been growing calls from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle for an investigation into the Signal scandal, with Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee the latest to call for an independent probe in a letter Monday to director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.

"As the president has made it very clear, Mike Waltz continues to be an important part of his national security team, and this case has been closed here at the White House as far as we are concerned," Leavitt told reporters Monday.

"There have been steps made to ensure that something like that can obviously never happen again, and we're moving forward," added Leavitt, without further elaborating on the action taken.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/01/signal-investigation-call-white-house-case-closed

King trump has spoken. Case closed.

Waltz’s team set up at least 20 Signal group chats for crises across the world

It’s a more extensive use of the app than previously reported and sheds new light on how commonly the Trump administration’s national security team relies on Signal.

National security adviser Mike Waltz’s team regularly set up chats on Signal to coordinate official work on issues including Ukraine, China, Gaza, Middle East policy, Africa and Europe, according to four people who have been personally added to Signal chats.

Two of the people said they were in or have direct knowledge of at least 20 such chats. All four said they saw instances of sensitive information being discussed.

It’s a more extensive use of the app than previously reported and sheds new light on how commonly the Trump administration’s national security team relies on Signal, a publicly available messaging app, to conduct its work.

“It was commonplace to stand up chats on any given national security topic,” said one of the people involved in the chats, adding that the groups often included Cabinet members and high-level staff.

All four of the people were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the private chats.

Veteran national security officials have warned the practice potentially violates regulations on protecting sensitive national security information from foreign adversaries, and federal recordkeeping laws if the chats are automatically deleted.

NSC spokesperson Brian Hughes noted that Signal is allowed on government devices and that some agencies automatically install it on employees’ phones. He also stressed that officials have used the app in both the Biden and Trump administrations.

“It is one of the approved methods of communicating but is not the primary or even secondary, it is one of a host of approved methods for unclassified material with the understanding that a user must preserve the record,” Hughes said. “Any claim of use for classified information is 100 percent untrue.”

None of the four individuals said they were aware of whether any classified information was shared, but all said that posts in group chats did include sensitive details of national security work.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported on the existence of an NSC Signal group chats beyond the one on Yemen that The Atlantic first reported on. These latest revelations show that the NSC’s reliance on Signal is widespread and part of standard operations.

“Waltz built the entire NSC communications process on Signal,” said another one of the people who participated in multiple group chats.

Waltz’s use of Signal to coordinate the work of the NSC has come under intense public scrutiny after he accidentally included a journalist on the Signal group text about military strikes in Yemen, sparking a firestorm of political backlash and calls for Trump to force Waltz out of his job.

Waltz and incoming NSC staff first started using Signal prolifically during the transition period before the inauguration and never stopped, according to another one of the four people who participated in the chats.

“This is a bunch of folks who have never been here before and couldn’t switch from campaign mode,” said a fifth person, a former Trump administration official.

Since the Signal chats emerged, Waltz and his staff have also come under fire for using personal Gmail accounts for government communication, as reported by The Washington Post. The NSC confirmed that Waltz and his staff used Gmail accounts but insisted it was to comply with federal records retention and Waltz never sent classified information over any unsecured platform.

Much of the uproar over the Yemen chat group has been about sensitive operational details that were shared. In the Yemen group chat, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth messaged Waltz and other Cabinet officials military strike plans and attack sequences of U.S. airstrikes against Iran-backed Houthi militants in Yemen. Experts and even some current officials have said that the details that Hegseth shared were likely classified, though the White House has sought to downplay the sensitivity of the information shared.

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee sent letters Tuesday to multiple members of the “Houthi PC small group” Signal chat, including requesting that they appear before Congress for transcribed interviews as part of their investigation into potential security breaches from the use of Signal.

Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly, the top Democrat on the Oversight committee, wrote in the letters that the Signal group chat “raises immediate and deeply alarming concerns about the misuse of unsecured communication platforms” and “the reckless dissemination of potentially classified material.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/...ats-for-crises-across-the-world-00266845

Pentagon watchdog launches probe into Signal chat

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and others discussed a U.S. strike in Yemen.

The Pentagon's independent watchdog has announced it has agreed to a request from top senators and is launching a probe into the use of the commercial messaging app Signal by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other senior Trump administration officials to discuss an imminent U.S. military strike against Houthi militants in Yemen.

Last week, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Roger Wicker, R-Miss., and ranking member Jack Reed, D-R.I., sent a letter to DOD acting Inspector General Steven Stebbins requesting an expedited inquiry into that Signal discussion.

"The purpose of this memorandum is to notify you that we are initiating the subject evaluation," Stebbins wrote in a memo to the offices of the secretary of defense and the deputy secretary of defense. "We are conducting this evaluation in response to a March 26, 2025 letter I received from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, requesting that I conduct an inquiry into recent public reporting on the Secretary of Defense's use of an unclassified commercially available messaging application to discuss information pertaining to military actions in Yemen in March 2025."

"The objective of this evaluation is to determine the extent to which the Secretary of Defense and other DoD personnel complied with DoD policies and procedures for the use of a commercial messaging application for official business. Additionally, we will review compliance with classification and records retention requirements," Stebbins added in the memo.

"We may revise the objective as the evaluation proceeds. We plan to perform this evaluation in accordance with the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency 'Quality Standards for Inspection and Evaluation,'" he said.

Last week, Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, revealed he had been added to a Signal text group that appeared to include senior Trump administration national security officials, including Vice President J.D. Vance, discussing plans to strike against Houthi targets in Yemen in mid-March.

Senior Trump administration officials including Hegseth pushed back on The Atlantic's description of the conversation and argued no classified war plans had been discussed.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pentagon-watchdog-launches-probe-signalgate/story?id=120458325

This is one of the IG's they didn't fire. But I think the odds are pretty good he will be fired soon.

I was going to say, he will be fired or neutered (figuratively).

Hegseth shared Yemen attack details in second Signal Chat.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/pete-hegseth-shared-yemen-attack-230008647.html

According to unnamed sources familiar with the chat who spoke to the Times, Hegseth sent the private group of his personal associates some of the same information, including the flight schedules for the F/A-18 Hornets that would strike Houthi rebel targets in Yemen, that he also shared with another Signal group of top officials that was created by Mike Waltz, the national security adviser.

I'm fried AF right now, ain't had a clearance nor been around classified documents in over a decade.

Why is it that I - right now - can practice better OPSEC measures than the freaking Pentagon chief?

I understand that in a new job, f-ups are unavoidable.
When you are an unqualified "New/Throwback-Era D.E.I." hire, your f-ups look like this.

The only reason this dude should ever visit the address of the office he now holds is as to complete a DoorDash delivery.


He was hired for this job for two reasons:

1. He said nice things about Mein Trumpf on a network that paid him to do so.
2. He looked good on TV while doing so.


Hegseth is the National Poster Child for mediocre EuroDoodz getting jobs that require no competition- on a level playing field.


America get what America hires.
#buyer'sremorse,anyone?

From an insider’s perspective. It’s gotten really bad. If you can’t practice baseline OPSEC, when everyone already questioned your credibility - for objectively good reasons - it’s going to start eroding the institution from the top down.

For anyone who thinks I’m being slanted in my stance, here is a quote from a former aide and Trump supporter:

“It’s been a month of total chaos at the Pentagon. From leaks of sensitive operational plans to mass firings, the dysfunction is now a major distraction for the president — who deserves better from his senior leadership,” John Ullyot, who served as the acting assistant to Hegseth for public affairs before resigning last week, wrote in the Politico Magazine piece.


“President Donald Trump has a strong record of holding his top officials to account. Given that, it’s hard to see Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth remaining in his role for much longer,” Ullyot continued.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5258195-john-ullyot-pentagon-disarray-hegseth/amp/

Eventually, America citizens will be forced to come to grips with the facts that:

1. they voted into the office a TV construct that they believed was real.



This is where the list stops.
IMHO, this is where the conversation ends.