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I would be interested in Dak. Don't know how we could afford him though.
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Bruce having a “somebody please watch my show” moment. I like his dramatic delivery! This will drive more eyes to the show than BigPlay has ever had. I like hearing Bruce do the ads for a diaper party at Bunker Hill. So.....I'll take that as a "No" to my question.  🤣
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When you have owners like Jones and Haslam?
Dak would change the narrative about "win Now."
Like you said, how could they make it work financially?
Dallas would have to pay some of his money. If they are willing to do that then yes it could happen.
I would love to get Dak.
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I don't see how something like this works financially, but it seems whenever we say this, we get another example of "the cap isn't real". I don't know if Watson has to stay on or get taken off the roster, but either way the cap impact makes it VERY hard to carry two starter QB contracts.
Then you get to the trade itself. We would obviously be sending some serious draft capital to Dallas. Sending #2 for a starting QB makes sense to me, but something tells me we'll have to give up more than that... and that should be a non-starter. Our roster is aging and has holes that we can't plug with high-priced FAs. We need to hit on draft picks (arguably) just as much as we need a fQB.
Also, I believe Dak has a no-trade clause in his contract.
Other than all that, it's fun to think about.
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I would be interested in Dak. Don't know how we could afford him though. Why do you all want expensive, unrealistic and short term solutions who cost a fortune in both salaries and draft capital? Instead of building long term, in a sustainable way both financially and talent wise, you all want a quick fix in pure Hollywood fashion. Do we have a chance to win the division with Dak? Super Bowl? Any idea how much the Browns have to pay him? What do the Cowboys want in a trade?
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Some of the tables didn't cut and paste I refer you to the link at the bottom Can The Cleveland Browns Afford To Trade For Dak Prescott News overnight broke that Jerry Jones has spoken with Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job, so questions immediately come up regarding the availability of Dak Prescott. Jack Duffin JACK DUFFIN Jan 14th, 5:00 AM 17 News overnight broke that Jerry Jones has spoken with Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job, so questions immediately come up regarding the availability of Dak Prescott and can the Cleveland Browns afford him. As soon as I saw the news upon waking up I knew exactly what my X account would look like when I opened it, and it seems I wasn't alone in knowing this... There were at least 3o tweets of people asking could the Browns make it work, what do the numbers look like, from fans to the incredibly passionate Ken Carman. Who appears to have paused his quarterback at two no matter what stance to go full blown recruiting for Dak Prescott, who does have a no trade clause it is worth noting. So let us dive into the contract, look at what the Cleveland Browns would be acquiring, can they make the numbers work and what it would mean for the Dallas Cowboys. Numbers as always are sourced from Over The Cap, always the best and most reliable place to get NFL contract numbers. THE CLEVELAND BROWNS SIDE So for the Cleveland Browns lets look at the contract they would be taking on if they got this trade completed: 2025 - $47,750,000 (fully guaranteed) 2026 - $40,000,000 (guarantees on 18th March 2025) 2027 - $45,000,000 (guarantees on 18th March 2026) 2028 - $55,000,000 (guarantees for injury on 18th March 2027) Financially the Cleveland Browns can make this work because they will turn each contract year into an option bonus and push the salary cap hits far out into the future. Dak will likely need to agree to this change because it is unlikely the Cowboys have the contract language that is standard in Browns contracts. This would make the contract the below. Trading for him will require some cap magic though because the Cleveland Browns don't have $47.75m of cap space. They will likely need to get the Cowboys to change Dak's contract so it has a roster bonus on the third day of the league year taking the base salary to the minimum. This way they only need $1.255m of cap space, they once they have Dak they can restructure his contract to the above to remain cap compliant. THE DALLAS COWBOYS SIDE When the Cowboys extended Dak last season they gave him an $80m signing bonus and this will mean they will take on a substantial amount of dead cap in this trade. While his extension was worth $60m a year we can see from what the Cleveland Browns would be taking on $52.25m less than that over the four years because the Cowboys have front loaded the cash. The dead cap for the Cowboys would be $103,216,667 in 2025 which is only slightly higher than his current cap number for 2025 of $89,896,666. If this was the Cleveland Browns and many other teams they would be restructuring all of their big numbers to getting as much salary cap space to roll this over to future years or spend in free agency. Jerry Jones doesn't appear to like spending money on his team and ranks 32nd on cash spending per the NFLPA/Over The Cap over the last four years. This opens the door to make it slightly possible. If they were to do this trade they would need to be restructuring players like CeeDee Lamb, Terence Steele, Trevon Diggs, Donovan Wilson, Malik Hooker and DaRon Bland. Extending Micah Parsons to get his cap number down. Plus stoping guys like Zack Martin and Demarcus Lawrence from having their contracts void so their current dead cap can be spread out. Personally I think this is highly unlikely and the aim is probably to get Travis Hunter if Deion Sanders gets the job but you can never rule things like this out. It would potentially be one where you aren't getting a crazy return on the picks to move from 2nd to 12th in the draft as the Cowboys are taking on so much dead cap having front loaded the extension. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...rade-for-dak-prescott-244115842/#2582912
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I've read that Dak has a NO TRADE CLAUSE in his contract.
How do the Browns convince Dak?
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I've read that Dak has a NO TRADE CLAUSE in his contract.
How do the Browns convince Dak? $250 million guaranteed? No, wait, that was the other guy.
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I suggested trading for Prescott a few weeks back, it gives us a chance to win now while we still have some talent on this team. Trade our #2 pick for Prescott and Dallas #12 pick.
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Lol. This photo was taken at the Chipotle in the West Lake neighborhood of Atlanta. The Chipotle address in this photo is 5823 Campbellton Rd SW Atlanta, GA. Most definitely not the Westlake suburb of Cleveland. This time of the NFL offseason is hilarious!
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I was wrong! Daryl Ruiter says he was in fact at the Westlake in Ohio! Apparently, he ideas here because he is friends with Browns player. Not meeting with the team.
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This would be so much better/funnier if it were a Chipotle in Strongsville......or a Kohl's.
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What was the Kohl’s reference? Was that Cowher too?
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What was the Kohl’s reference? Was that Cowher too? If I remember correctly, on the Quarterback show/documentary on Netflix, Cousin talked about how he still buys clothes from Kohl’s.
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I tend to agree that his trip can't be just about visiting a friend who happens to be a Browns' player. It's too coincidental and I think there is more to it here.
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Lol. This photo was taken at the Chipotle in the West Lake neighborhood of Atlanta. The Chipotle address in this photo is 5823 Campbellton Rd SW Atlanta, GA. Most definitely not the Westlake suburb of Cleveland. This time of the NFL offseason is hilarious! In this case I'd let it pass because it has spawned a whole bunch of hilarious fake photos.
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Just another example of Twitter news.
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Just another example of Twitter news. I doubt this story is true at all. But I have to say, if there is any truth to it, haven't they learned from the last time they went after a High profile QB?
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Just another example of Twitter news. I doubt this story is true at all. But I have to say, if there is any truth to it, haven't they learned from the last time they went after a High profile QB? It is true. He also took pictures with people at a BBQ place in Avon. He was visiting friends, not the Browns. In fact all the brass were out of town.
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Wow. Not what I expected to see this soon.
Looking forward to the response from DeShaun.
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Wow. Not what I expected to see this soon.
Looking forward to the response from DeShaun. I don't understand why he would say this publicly at all.
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I don't really care what the predator has to say. Haslam is right and I commend him for stepping up to the plate and owning it.
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Wow. Not what I expected to see this soon.
Looking forward to the response from DeShaun. I don't understand why he would say this publicly at all. I don't either. There has to be something directly from DeShaun that says he has no interest in even working to salvage the disaster he's created here. Has to be. Story coming soon.
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I commend JH for speaking up and taking responsibility for this disaster. How many owners would step up like that? Very few if any. I said it before and will say it again I think he's a good owner who wants to bring a Super Bowl victory to Cleveland.
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It's hard to argue with that as far as wanting to win a SB. The money he has spent supports that and just common sense does too. A SB win would boost the value of the Browns by leaps and bounds. I can't think of why a team owner wouldn't want to greatly increase the value of a franchise they own.
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Wow. Not what I expected to see this soon.
Looking forward to the response from DeShaun. I don't understand why he would say this publicly at all. Maybe hoping to move past it?. It gets brought up in about 40 % of the post on several of these threads. I swear, it seems like there are posters who just want to keep blaming someone and now Jimmy has "admitted" it was a bad move. I am guessing very, very few fans felt DW was going to be this ineffective when he was traded for. The trade was horrendous and costs us a huge price. What year will thi sno longer be a major topic, 2029, 2035? I have moved on and hope for good things this year.
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Exactly and I'd like to add that just having our Browns be a yearly contender would increase the value of the team. Some fans have critiqued JH unmercifully on this board and I think it's been unfair. I really believe he wants a winner here in Cleveland and he's been willing to spend the money to do it. If we could have gotten a top end QB in the last 10 years or so we would probably already be a perennial contender and maybe been to a SB. The QB position has always been our shortcoming.
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Hats off to Jimmy for some well needed transparency. It was as expected a mutual decision between the whole leadership but it was also an extremely poor executed due diligence. That’s why it’s wrong to call it a big swing.
Without a well thought out plan to move forward and vastly improved results the Browns leadership is still on thin ice. The incompetent decision making is still in our memories until being proved otherwise.
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Wow. Not what I expected to see this soon.
Looking forward to the response from DeShaun. I don't understand why he would say this publicly at all. I don't either. There has to be something directly from DeShaun that says he has no interest in even working to salvage the disaster he's created here. Has to be. Story coming soon. That's a fair guess. I dunno, I wasn't really that blown away when I first read it. Ever since Watson re-tore his achilles, he's been as good as gone. All of the chatter is how the salary cap was going to work WHEN we cut him.
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It's hard to argue with that as far as wanting to win a SB. The money he has spent supports that and just common sense does too. A SB win would boost the value of the Browns by leaps and bounds. I can't think of why a team owner wouldn't want to greatly increase the value of a franchise they own. I agree. That said, I do think Jimmy and his family are invested in Cleveland above and beyond anything that might benefit the family. The family does have a history of giving. Selfish people don't have to do that. Jimmy has given a lot of coin in the Cleveland area. His adopted town. The Haslams have given millions to the University of Tennessee. You don't have to walk around the campus long before you see 3-4 buildings with the Haslam name attached. I get it, there are benefits and perks in doing that, but none the less they didn't have to do that. There is an unwritten responsibility in being super rich in this country, which is to be charitable. I don't know of any other country where the very wealthy have given away as much money. We are talking multiple billions of dollars. Maybe hundreds. Maybe a trillion...I don't know. It would be an interesting study.
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