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I have no idea where the Browns or any other NFL teams have these QB's ranked. You pretty much addressed my question with the first sentence in your response to me. Thanks.

I just hope it is not Sanders with that 2nd pick. Anybody but him - I think he will be a bust of magnificent proportions...

Hoping Dart shines because Ward is going #1 and I doubt nor do I wish that we move up to #1 to get him.

I feel the same way about Ward

Interesting mock draft from The Athletic. I like the Athletic and feel they are generally more balanced and thoughtful than most - Jason Lloyd was/is a Baker Hater, and he's been exposed many times, but him aside I think they do pretty decent sport journalists.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/61...l&campaign=711528&userId=4624222

It is behind a paywall.

This mock wasn't Dan Brugler (spl?) who does a phenominal scouting report, I think it is called The Beast. This is from Nick Baumgardiner and I thought it was worth posting due to the QB picks:

#2 - Cam Ward. Says he would't pick him but think Haslam will.
#28 - Jets trade up to take Shedeur Sanders.
#33 - CLE taking RB TreVeyon Henderson.
#34 - Jaxson Dart to the Giants.
#35 - Tyler Shough to Titans.
#52 - Jalen Milroe to the Seahwaks.

With Sanders - Nick mentions that it only takes one team to want to trade up and take a chance with Sanders higher, but says feedback is universally that he's not a top 15 talent. When it is all said an done I would be shocked if the second QB off the board is that low. But I found it interesting to see these QB's forcast to go low. What I suspect or my opinion is these selections might be more in line with the relative talent the players have overall, but reality is teams will take them earlier because of need and importance of the position. If we could get Dart at the top of the 2nd - or even trade back into the bottom of the 1st round to get him, and select Hunter or Carter at 2 .... I would be happy.

I consider myself one of the bigger Athletic pushers on here, but I absolutely hate it when "sports journalists" do this. Yeah, I get it... we're the Browns.... and we'll continue to be the Browns until we're not. But I'm not going to pay to read someone pooing on the Browns to cover for lazy journalism. I can get plenty of that from the free local beat reporters.

I think that's a bit harsh, all the guy said was in essence he would not take ward at number two but he thinks Cleveland probably will and points to haslam as the tipping point. Jmo

I generally have a MUCH higher opinion of the Athletic.

After the Pickett trade, I don't think that I want to know what they are looking for in a QB. If they take Sanders at 2, I will be annoyed.

Why do you think him saying he and Haslam likely disagree on a Ward is "pooing on the Browns"?

I don't think anyone can predict if he will be a bust or not. The thing is nobody can know that before it all plays out. All you can do is look at the tape, listen to the interviews, watch his work out and consider the possibilities in regards to both the best and worst case scenarios in making a decision to draft him or not and at where in the draft the risk matches the reward. Gather all of the evidence you can to make a decision that correctly weighs the risk verses the reward and act accordingly.

I'm hoping trading for Pickett is a 3D chess move to convince teams we want Shedeur in order to increase what we get in a trade down.

Hopefully Rodgers picks Pitt leaving the Giants in the lurch and they get desperate for QB2. Trade down one and still get Hunter/Carter.

My current Browns First Round Pick Flowchart

1. Is Cam Ward available at #2?
Yes----> Draft Cam Ward
No ----> Proceed to next question

2. Have you been offered multiple draft picks in a trade? ( must incl. but not limited to a 2026 first rounder and swap of 2025 first rounder)
Yes----> Take offer
No-----> Draft Abdul Carter

My thoughts on the trade would be to accumulate early round draft capital in 2026 for added flexibility to draft a QB. IMO, I don't see this happening for a guy like Sanders, so I think Carter is the most likely option. I chose him over Hunter because I think Berry would prefer to build in the trenches.

Why? Stefanski isn't in charge of making the picks.

...Why not?

He still probably has thoughts on QBs. He'll be the one coaching them if we pick them. Some people just like to listen to smart people that might have different perspectives.

It's actually rather simple. If you want to know how the Browns are leaning in the draft you would want to talk to the man making the picks. That's not complicated. Sure Stefanski can give you his opinion of the QB's in this draft. But he isn't in charge of the analytics department or where they will be ranked on the browns big board. So if all you're after is his opinion on the QB's that's fine.

This is the way. I don't know if ward is the saviour.... But if he isn't there, I'd take carter and pair him with MG. Unless we can get a boat load of picks.

I don't think Russell Wilson impacts the draft a whole lot. The Steelers and Giants should be looking regardless. Same for us. They either love a QB in the draft or they don't. Honestly I think the real question might be how long they think they can wait to get one they like enough. I don't think there's a ton of separation between the QBs after Ward.

I do think Russ and Hunter as a receiver fit pretty well. Wilson does seem to be falling off some with age, but can still drop it in the bucket pretty well if not quite the same distance.

Not sure what kind of contract he's looking at. Might price himself out of our range.