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It appears that Margaret Brennan just blamed the Holocaust on free speech.






I have no words...

With what you posted one would hope so.

It's now what the right has labeled as free speech. That lies and disinformation is free speech according to them. Making up numbers having a president simply making things up as he goes along on the national stage is what you call free speech.

just so we're on the same page...


you would agree that if i were to say that we should consider the idea of removing jews from our country, I would be free to say that, right?

According to them even saying things over a period of time that leads to the extermination of an entire race is free speech. Or even when they claimed that owning an entire race of people by saying they're sub human and property for that matter would now be what they call free speech. Or claiming that slaughtering indigenous people and taking their land because they claimed God had destined for it to happen would be free speech. Those aren't things we haven't seen before. Anything and everything no matter how insane or destructive it may be is what they uphold by claiming it's all protected by free speech.

Hopefully people are starting to figure out what MAGA really means.

Fascist have no human rights in my book, including JD Vance. Free speech only works for decent people. I’ve never seen a bad actor use freedom of speech in the way it was meant. Trump and company cry that crap all the time, and dems back down… same is going on in Germany. They are trying to use our good values and moral character against us, because they are bereft of basic human empathy for others unlike them. They’ve weaponized it.

So when someone calls Trump and all his followers and supporters, “Fascist bastards that need to be exterminated” It’s Free speech! lol…Pffft Nazi Goper’s crack me up.

That would not be considered free speech IMO. Threat of violence (exterminated) is the key difference, change the wording and it would be free speech.

Yelling "Fire!" in a movie theater is a classic example. Speech that places others in a potentially dangerous situation, or advocates violence towards others is fundamentally different.

You sound like an unhinged lunatic.

Freedom of Speech protects us against people like you who thinks others shouldn't be allowed to voice their thoughts. Who is the arbiter that deems whether or not someone is a "decent" person? You? LMAO! The government? LMAO! That is the literal definition of fascism. Depriving others the right to speak because YOU find their beliefs offensive....or maybe you just don't like them personally. Whatever it is, you've got some priorities to straighten out emotionally because you sound like a Nazi.

You sound the same to me AND a majority of Americans with your support of this BS.

Freedom of speech is NOT freedom to hate, discriminate, or be an [censored] wrecking others lives. Even the founders of this country said the government is representative of ALL Americans and is entrusted with the power of the people to carry out the peoples sovereign will. We have no Kings or dictators in America, we have public servants. And when government strays from that role, it is the duty and right of the people to protest and change that. It never said a thing about controlling women’s bodies, hating immigrants, or any of the million other bizarre ideas you have been programed to believe. In times of turmoil like this we are supposed to go back to the fundamentals of the constitutional debates of the founders to seek what the tone and meaning of the words in the constitution mean. It is very clear that we were NOT supposed to suffer kings, authoritarian governments, nor tyrants… no matter how rich they are.

Educate yourself and wake up. This is a usurpation.



Ones actions and deeds determine if you are a decent person. You’ve been radicalized by an enemy of the state, I apologize that you can’t see or wrap around it. But hey, I’ll just ask you where in the founding documents does it say your freedom of speech is there for you to twist into a weapon of hate and divides? People fought and died to preserve you freedom of speech, the right to speak your mind, not to be an a hateful arse and nuisance to the lives of others. Same with religion, it’s protected as far as your p[ersonal right to choose and worship as you see fit, NOT to push your beliefs on other. Smh.

This is no longer about Ds and Rs, it’s about a hostile usurpation. Trump needs to follow the laws and constitution just like everyone else. He’s not a savior, napoleon, nor a thug gangster. This is a power grab because government on both sides put us in this position. We are getting our butts kicked by China. The race to control AI and data is on. They know our empire is in steep decline and we can’t compete with China and India without cutting everything. This has the elites biting their nails because they may lose their power and money trying to maintain the same BS they’ve spoon fed us since the late 60s. Richard Wollfe says it well in this video. I don’t agree with him on everything, but his points in this long video are valid and on point. I know you won’t bother to watch because it might break your delusions of who you are and what you think.

Ummm …trump and allies has put a lot of people in jeopardy of violence and call it free speech. Pelosi’s husband as an example. Pfft Nazi Goper’s crack me up.

If Trump was a member of DT, I’d bet the refs here would allow Trump to say just about anything he wanted to say without being suspended or banned. It’s the state of this country at this point. A high percentage of US believe everything they hear from that Nazi bastard.

Like an episode of lefties losing it!!! Extremely entertaining reading from some of the most out there posters on the board. Thank you for my morning laugh.

They call Republicans Nazi's but yet they support abortion and the murder of innocent babies that have killed far more people than Hitler or any tyrant ever did.

They put men in women's bathrooms and locker rooms and took the right to privacy away from women in this country.

They opened the border and flooded this country with gangs and criminals that have resulted in an increase of deadly drugs and spread the sex slave industry in our country. Crime increased and our citizens became less safe.

They wasted our tax money of promoting homosexual propaganda across the globe instead of taking care of real issues at home.

But yet they call Republicans nazis because they try to fix these major issues.

Oh the irony! Lol

Have you heard about all the major companies having mass layoffs this year? United Healthcare. Southwest Airlines. Just to name a couple. Thank you….Gopers. Unemployment fillings up 55% from last year.

It's not that I don't understand or disagree with your explanation. It's not hard to understand.


It's that Musk can dox the judge's daughter on his social media platform and nothing will happen. I'm increasingly having a hard time squaring up what is (increasingly) everyday behavior that's visible to all and what we on here decide to be all serious about.

Oh honey....

If you think further demonizing a couple tiny minorities in this country is "fixing major issues" then you might as well move to Russia or China.

Are you aware of how many violent crimes are attributable to illegals vs our homegrown criminals? The level of stupidity required to hand-waive at violent crime until a brownie does it and then get all riled up because a felon told you to is astounding.

Was it liberating when you completely unburdened yourself from any critical thinking?

Tell that to Angel parents in this country. Get a grip on reality!!!

In the end that's all you give a damn about anyway. What is it exactly you want to say that anyone is or has prevented you from saying? Let me guess.... Not a damn thing but here you are whining about it anyway.

Honest question:

Are Angel parents victims of violence against their children, or just because of illegals?

It was violence that never should have happened. Those criminals were in this country illegally. That means they never should have been here. That is a crime that never should have happened. If we can prevent the first crime of entering the country illegally then the further crimes of rape and murder can be controlled within our border. It is that easy put our country and our citizens first.

There is no need for freedom of speech for speech we like. Freedom of speech is to protect dissent, disagreement, and yes, even hateful rhetoric. There truly is no freedom of speech without these. Now, we have laws against slander and libel, and these are essential limits on speech ..... but freedom must protect the unpopular ideas along with the popular.

Do you think putting such an emphasis on crimes committed by illegals will have a significant impact on overall rape/murder when illegals make up such a small part of violent criminals? It's also been shown that illegal aliens are no more likely to commit violent crimes than US citizens.

That's why I made the comment about crimes committed by illegals vs the same crimes committed by citizens. We already have laws against these violent crimes... as well as being here illegally. Go ahead and deport illegals to your heart's content, but don't try to pretend that this admin is doing this because it's the right thing. It's all theatre to distract.

What crimes of violence should happen?

j/c

If free speech is what you seem to care so much about..................

Fox News Legal Analyst Pours Cold Water On Trump Border Czar's AOC Threat

Jonathan Turley said it would be an "assault on free speech rights" if Tom Homan pushed for the Democrat to be prosecuted.

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley criticized Tom Homan, President Donald Trump’s border czar, for suggesting that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) could face prosecution for teaching undocumented people their legal rights.

“Such a prosecution would be an assault on free speech rights,” Turley posted on X. “While AOC has never been a defender of free speech, principle demands something more from the rest of us who value the First Amendment.”

“Just as VP Vance offered a powerful defense of free speech in Europe, this baseless threat undermines the high ground achieved in Munich,” he added. (In a stunning speech in Germany on Friday, Vice President JD Vance chastised European allies, accusing their governments of suppressing free speech.)

Homan and Ocasio-Cortez have traded barbs in recent days after the New York Democrat hosted a “Know Your Rights” webinar to teach immigrants how they can protect themselves if they are targeted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids.

Homan, a leader of Trump’s mass deportation plans, suggested on Thursday that Ocasio-Cortez could get “in trouble” for doing so.

“Is she crossing the line?” he asked on Fox News. “So, I’m working with the Department of Justice and finding out.”

The lawmaker didn’t appear too concerned, firing back: “Maybe he can learn to read. The Constitution would be a good place to start.”

Homan doubled down on Monday, accusing the Democrat of trying to “educate people on how they evade law enforcement.”

“I’ve asked DOJ, where is that line of impediment, of interference?” he said on Fox News.

Everyone has rights under the Constitution, regardless of their immigration status, and it is not illegal to tell people about those rights.

“Homan has nothing. The Fourth Amendment is clear and I am well within my duties to educate people of their rights,” Ocasio-Cortez posted on X Monday night. “He can threaten me with jail & call names all he wants. He’s got nothing else.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-turley-tom-homan-aoc_n_67b46ecfe4b063a7b19abc2b

But you know, "Margaret Brennan just blamed the Holocaust on free speech."

Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

None but if an illegal was not in the country that would eliminate that violence. There are legal ways for people to enter the country. No one is against immigration. We are against illegal immigration.

So why hasnt the trump administration directed the DoJ to prosecute companies hiring illegal immigrants? wouldn't that go a longer way in deterring illegal immigration into this country than only targeted migrants?

Somebody with citizenship is hiring these migrants. but i get it: to answer that question is to admit that you have to start arresting your corporate slave masters, and we all know you're against that.

Wrong. In every conceivable way, imo.

1A protects all citizens from government suppression. Nothing more, nothing less.

It does not protect us from speech that angers us or makes us feel uncomfortable.

1A exists solely to promote "the free expression thereof"... and that means that you & I get to say things that you & I disagree with. This discourse is a cornerstone of the system of government The Founders agreed upon. I still agree with that cornerstone- even when it's used to express something that I vehemently oppose.

You aren't being 'silenced,' tastybrownies.
You are being debated, in a forum that still allows free speech.

OCD may p*** you off with his opinions. He may rant in ways that you & I disagree... but he still has a right to say what he does. It's up to us to either agree/disagree with him in an arena of Free Speech in debate. At the same time, you & I should still feel free to agree with him when either of us agrees with something he's said.


You aren't protected. You aren't shielded from speech you don't like, anymore than I am.


Nut tf up, and quit whining.

The funny thing is all these people are whining about free speech while they have the right to say whatever they want. Nobody is infringing on that right.

Meanwhile Republicans are threatening AOC for what she is saying with legal action and they haven't said a damned word about it. They don't really care about free speech. They only want to show outrage about something that isn't even happening to them while staying silent when it is actually happening.

They are following the marching orders they've been given well.

A big fan, friend and supporter of trump is having his free speech infringed upon! Oh the horror..............

Yeezy website disappears from the internet after Shopify says Kanye West violated its terms

The website that was selling Kanye West's T-shirts embossed with swastikas has been deactivated by Shopify Tuesday.

A Shopify spokesperson said in a comment to CNN that the "merchant did not engage in authentic commerce practices and violated our terms so we removed them." Shopify is the back-end platform that powered the T-shirt store on the Yeezy website. The site no longer loads as of Tuesday morning.

"All merchants are responsible for following the rules of our platform," the Shopify spokesperson added.

West's website received fresh promotion Sunday evening when he bought a local TV ad during the Super Bowl, appearing to show him sitting at the dentist's office while recording a 30-second spot on an iPhone to push people to his Yeezy website.

Although it aired during the Super Bowl, it wasn't a national ad on Fox and only viewers in a few markets saw it, according to the Hollywood Reporter. Fox, which did not respond to CNN’s request for comment, doesn’t have control over all the commercials that air on its affiliates.

Shopify allowed the website to remain online and sell the antisemitic T-shirts for more than 24 hours. That ignited outrage on social media and from the Anti-Defamation League.

"The swastika is the symbol adopted by Hitler as the primary emblem of the Nazis. It galvanized his followers in the 20th century and continues to threaten and instill fear in those targeted by antisemitism and white supremacy," the ADL said in a statement posted on X. "There's no excuse for this kind of behavior."

For the past few days, West has spewed virulently antisemitic, homophobic and misogynistic hate speech via his X account to his more than 32 million followers. Celebrities, Jewish groups, anti-hate organizations and other X accounts had pleaded with Elon Musk’s X platform to take action, though Musk himself has courted controversy with his own behavior and comments about the Holocaust.

Some of West's X posts had visibility limitations placed on them, including those with homophobic statements and another one advocating for violence against Jews. A note attached to some posts said. "This post may violate X's rules against hateful conduct," adding that the post "can't be replied to, shared or liked."

On Sunday evening, West seemed to deactivate his own account. "I'm logging out of Twitter. I appreciate Elon for allowing me to vent, It has been very cathartic to use the world as a sounding board," he posted.

https://www.wdsu.com/article/kanye-west-tshirts-swastikas-shopify-removal/63759036

But musk is happy to let Kanye's hate be posted. Imagine that.

His free speech wasn't infringed upon. He violated shopify's terms for using their site.


I'm going to bow out of this convo because stupidity really grinds my gears. Whenever someone can explain how the whole MAGA vs Disney saga was NOT infringing on free speech, but going bananas over this is somehow not being a giant hypocrite, then I'd love to continue the debate.

It was more posted in jest as to what the other side calls infringing on free speech. This is no different than any social network that has terms of service. When you continue to break the terms of service over and over again they have a right to suspend you. You are 100% correct that it was not an infringement of free speech. Much like most of the nonsense BS they create from nothing to make such a claim.

No oober, stupidity is suggesting that because we have Americans murdering other Americans it is ok to import illegals to kill other Americans. Because we have Americans who rape American women it is ok to import illegals to rape American women.

Crimes by Americans on other Americans all we can do is put them in the slammer after the fact. But all the crimes by people here illegally have one thing in common. They could have been prevented by a secure border that kept the murderers and rapists out. Every one of those crimes should not have happened. They had no right to be here, did not belong here and should not have been released into the country. A bunch of lefties in charge of our borders released these people essentially unvetted into our country and our citizens paid the price.

Speaking of paying the price I wonder how many of America’s heroes could have been helped by the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars spent on illegals. You know the veterans who are homeless, the vets seeking help with ptsd, the vets who desperately need our help. But no we have to give it to people who do not even belong here. Shameful!!

I'm glad it wasn't illegals assaulting police officers on Jan. 6th because that would have somehow made those assaults so much worse according to your kind and there's zero chance in hell trump would have pardoned them.

I see like a proper Trumptard you are just making crap up. No one said any of that.

They just make BS up as they go along and the sad part is that sometimes I think they actually believe their own BS.

Oh geez if you are gonna post irrelevancy go whine to someone else.

So crime is irrelevant depending on who is committing the crime and where the crime is committed? So why were right wing men pardoned for assaulting cops while the same crime would never be pardoned had any one else have committed them? That seems to be your entire premise here. It seems trump agrees with you about the severity of the crime being dependent on who is committing the crime.

The only one whining here is you because you can't defend what that ass clown did. That and just BS like this that you made up and is a lie.................


I can understand you would like to silence anyone who calls you out on such BS. I understand that it bothers you that when someone understands that crime is crime no matter who commits it and you support a man who pardoned those who assaulted police officers. I get it. Trying to say things like it's us who are whining somehow in people's feeble brains causes them to think we will go away. We won't.

We know who you are and we know what it is you are really supporting. As such we're not going anywhere. I guess you're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

Those on the right will eventually lose their mind because they can't figure out how to deal with the hypocrisy of Jan 6.

Somehow in their warped vision, it is perfectly fine for some Americans to commit crimes against other Americans including hundreds of police officers, have them convicted and imprisoned for their crimes, and then have their ringleader (Trump) call them political prisoners and hostages and then pardon them all.

Every they point out the about the crimes by illegals, they forget that Trump derailed the last border bill and then boasted about killing the bill. The like the issue to complain about the issue, as political fodder. It they actually gave a damn about illegal immigration they would have figured out a way to fix it. On this subject it is to their benefit to curse the darkness that they created. It has only been 40 years.

Woofer the best thing that congress did was kill that stupid bill. You lefties keep shouting that the bill would save the country. In fact it was a pile of donkey dung!! There were a number of horrible inclusions in that bill but just one was enough to make it a horrible bill. It codified, made it law, that catch and release was the law of the land. That is the policy Biden chose to inflict on America for 4 years. The result was millions of unvetted illegals being dumped into American cities and states. One of Biden’ dumber policies that helped bring down his administration.

Biden did not care about the border until his fourth year when he saw that border security was important to Americans and that his disaster at the border was going to affect his election chances . Only then did he make changes to stem the flow of illegals. During fiscal year 2024 there were almost 3 million encounters at the border but from June to December after his changes they were reduced. In December there were “only” about 50,000 encounters, down dramatically from earlier in his administration. Do you find it interesting that that reduction came without that dumb law. We never needed legislation to control the border. Never!

Note I said we “only” had 50,000 encounters. There was a reason for that. Do you know how many encounters there were in month one of the Trump administration?? Like to guess?? There were less than 9,000. Yep . All without any congressional action. You know there were days during the Biden years where 8,000+ encounters at the border happened in one day. Same number we had in the month of February. Thankfully we did not pass that law. Smart move by the republicans. All we really needed was an administration that wanted to control the border and now we have one.

So it looks like we are figuring out a “way to fix it”. Your welcome.

Clem I do not get what you are arguing about with tasty. You both seem to be saying the same thing in slightly different ways. I don’t think he was proposing censoring anyone, he was attacking a poster who would gladly take the rights of some folks away that he deemed unworthy. We all should oppose censorship but sadly a lot of lefties are gung ho for it.

Swish, short answer is yes. Now, if you try to take some sort of action along that line and you will have big trouble on your hands. Freedom of speech includes the right to say dumb things. Lefty dems in Washington should be grateful that it does otherwise they would have to become very quiet.

This reporter and the lefties on here parroting the line that freedom of speech caused the holocaust have a seriously distorted sense of reality, probably beyond all hope of fixing. I guess we’ll just have to let them live in their fantasyland.