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Good answer when you have nothing. Let’s play a game here. I’ll give you two statements, both ostensibly true. You tell me which of the statements was true and which statement was censored.
#1- natural immunity is not as effective as vaccine acquired immunity so you need to get the shot even if you had the virus and no matter what your blood antibody level.
#2- natural immunity is at least as effective and probably more effective and longer lasting than vaccine acquired immunity. If you had the virus and you have a good antibody level you do not need the shot.
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Can you tell me where that first statement came from? Who it was that made that statement? Can you show where anyone pressured that first statement be made? Because that's the argument you've been making.
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So...some believe that the people (Congress) responsible for where we are presently (with the ridiculous spending, fraud & waste) also believe that those same people (Congress) should be the ones leading the charge to clean up the ridiculous spending.
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Well it's only in the constitution that congress has the power of the purse. (spending) But we shouldn't let a little thing like the constitution get in the way, right?
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See, this is part of the problem, who are you to decide whether or not someone is qualified for a position?
Joe Biden wasn't qualified to be President of the United States. Alejandro Mayorkas sure as HELL was NOT qualified to be Director of Homeland Security. He wasn't fit to run a lemonade stand and a ten year old could have done a better than that guy.
Personally I think the Democrats have a deep over trust in government and over reliance in them as a whole. They are fine with the status quo and believe what they are told every step of the way. I'm not really sure why...whether or not they count on certain programs, gifts, money, something they receive from the government, I'm just don't get it. Why aren't they willing to admit when things are wrong? Why were there no audits of programs under Biden? Why? Didn't they care?
Maybe they like to ignore the corruption and past wrong doings because they can't fathom the truth that their side is bad just like the rest of them. The documents are out there of past corruption, programs that actively go against US citizens, special operations that are carried out regardless of which party is in power. They have the audacity to think that long service in government can somehow be used as a barometer of whether or not someone is competent or qualified for the job. This is absolute nonsense! In fact, the longer someone has been in government the more likely they are to be corrupt and fully engulfed in the machine.
Back when this country started all the people appointed to positions came from regular professions such as teachers, blacksmiths cooks, etc. Just because someone has a different life experience doesn't mean that they are any less capable of making sound decisions. In fact their decisions are often better because they're more in touch with the every day man and what regular people are going through. I'd be perfectly fine if 100% of congress were fired tomorrow and replaced by every day folks. Not one person should be scared of that...If you are then I think you should re-evaluate your thoughts about government.
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See, this is part of the problem, who are you to decide whether or not someone is qualified for a position? This is how you tell us you haven't been paying attention while you haven't been paying attention. Joe Biden wasn't qualified to be President of the United States. Biden was elected, not appointed. Musk was appointed. Alejandro Mayorkas sure as HELL was NOT qualified to be Director of Homeland Security. He wasn't fit to run a lemonade stand and a ten year old could have done a better than that guy. Yet he was confirmed by the senate and Musk was not. Personally I think the Democrats have a deep over trust in government and over reliance in them as a whole. They are fine with the status quo and believe what they are told every step of the way. I'm not really sure why...whether or not they count on certain programs, gifts, money, something they receive from the government, I'm just don't get it. Why aren't they willing to admit when things are wrong? Why were there no audits of programs under Biden? Why? Didn't they care? While you haven't admitted many of the things trump has done since he has been elected is wrong? Or the fact that musk Musk "donated" 270 million dollars to the trump campaign to buy his power. Maybe they like to ignore the corruption and past wrong doings because they can't fathom the truth that their side is bad just like the rest of them. The documents are out there of past corruption, programs that actively go against US citizens, special operations that are carried out regardless of which party is in power. They have the audacity to think that long service in government can somehow be used as a barometer of whether or not someone is competent or qualified for the job. This is absolute nonsense! In fact, the longer someone has been in government the more likely they are to be corrupt and fully engulfed in the machine If you are speaking about the first trump presidency from 2016 - 2020 and America didn't learn anything from it then we agree. It's not that we "trust" the government. It's that we fact check things to see who it is that's really lying. You may find that helpful. Back when this country started all the people appointed to positions came from regular professions such as teachers, blacksmiths cooks, etc. Just because someone has a different life experience doesn't mean that they are any less capable of making sound decisions. In fact their decisions are often better because they're more in touch with the every day man and what regular people are going through. I'd be perfectly fine if 100% of congress were fired tomorrow and replaced by every day folks. Not one person should be scared of that...If you are then I think you should re-evaluate your thoughts about government. So they didn't have billions in government contracts or donated 270 million to presidential campaigns in order to buy their power in government? You're comparing apples to oranges while trying to make them sound the same. They're not.
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Well it's only in the constitution that congress has the power of the purse. (spending) But we shouldn't let a little thing like the constitution get in the way, right? Where did I say ANYTHING about Congress' authority over spending? You are seeing things that aren't there...again.
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So...some believe that the people (Congress) responsible for where we are presently (with the ridiculous spending, fraud & waste) also believe that those same people (Congress) should be the ones leading the charge to clean up the ridiculous spending. When you stop spending that congress has already approved you are in fact overriding congress and their function of having the control of spending. Maybe it's just that you didn't understand the ramifications of what you posted.
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In the immortal words of Cris Carter……. Cmon man!!! Of course you won’t answer so I will. First , the second statement is the true statement. Natural immunity is more effective and longer lasting than vaccine acquired immunity. Numerous studies show that to be a true statement.
Second, which statement was censored? Sadly the Feds pressured the social media sites to keep that information from the public. They censored the truth. And you don’t care.
Fauci and the cdc during 20 and 21 expressed numerous times that people should not rely on natural immunity and should get the shot even if they had gotten the virus. And they demonstrated that with their vaccine mandates. They mandated our military get the vaccine and never once said unless you have had the virus. They discharged our service people for refusing the vaccine and many of them had had the virus.
Clearly the people running the show believed natural immunity was not effective. And they were wrong.
You censorship advocates just can’t admit that censoring truth is a bad idea. Btw there are many examples of the same thing happening, not that you care.
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So you can't provide any source that confirms that one statement you quoted was forced or coerced to be stated by the government. Instead you just ramble on with no varification to support it. Got it.
You do realize that natural immunity only works in people that have already had Covid don't you? And you do realize how many people died when they got covid don't you?
Dear Lord man.
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You censorship advocates just can’t admit that censoring truth is a bad idea.
. Coming from a card carrying member of Cult of Trump whose media darling/partner wanted to Flood the Zone with excrement so no one knows whats true or BS .... Your post belongs in the Political Jokes thread.
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Oh geez Louise. What am I dealing with here???
Where did I say anywhere that someone was forced or coerced to say vaccine immunity was more effective than natural acquired immunity. Where?? Nowhere!!!
I said social media was coerced to prevent publication of the fact that natural immunity is more effective than vaccine immunity so if you have had the virus and have good antibodies you do not need the vaccine!! Ya got it or is this too complex for you??
And you are surely not implying that I think healthy people should walk thru the covid ward to get the virus so they have natural immunity. Implying that would be the height of ___. To paraphrase my friend Tucker , at first I thought you were pretending to be ____, but now I’m not so sure.
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Dude, you actually have been saying the government forced people to say things and then posed a question with two statements in it. If you weren't trying to claim the statement was coerced WTH were to trying to say? You just said it again in your last post and then said that's not what you were saying?
The vast majority of people had not had covid. They had no natural immunity and many of them who contracted Covid died because of it. You didn't have to walk through a covid ward to get covid. Millions of people got covid without doing that. As er usual you have become unhinged.
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Which statement said anything about somebody being forced to say it?? Answer neither. Look you made a very specific accusation, that I said something. Now you are weaseling around because you now realize I did not say any such thing. So the question now is…. Did you accuse me while knowing full well I did not say it. That would be lying, or did you just make a mistake. Only you know the truth.
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Could you explain to me what anything in that second paragraph has to do with acknowledging that natural immunity is and always has been effective and that people who had the virus and had the antibodies did not need the vaccine. All that is so evident to almost everyone but you.
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Your entire premise going into those questions was that the government was forcing people to say things and pressuring social media. You then posted those questions asking me which one was true and which one wasn't. I realize exactly what you were saying based on the context of the conversation. And so does everyone else. Pay attention net time. The only one trying to weasel out of that is you.
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Show me where I said government was forcing people to say things. I am wracking my brain to think of a context where I would believe that and say it. I’m coming up with nothing. So I am confident I did not was and unless you can show an example where I did then you are just spreading a lie…..again.
Now the coercion of Facebook et al was real and indisputable. So I did say that .
So again, show me where I said government was forcing people to say things. Otherwise you are just making things up.
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Right!! Except that the “lies” that were censored turned out to be true, and the “truth” that the Feds wanted published turned out to be lies. I get it, that doesn’t bother you but it does me. Right here.
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