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The draft process involves many people.
No single person does it all. Players are scouted. The reports are gone over by many and discussed.
Berry has to trust others.
Stefanski and Rees have way more experience with quarterbacks. They are the ones who will be working with the quarterbacks. He is not going to force a quarterback on them. He knows their experience level. Knows they will be the guys who will coach the players in their schemes.
Why in world would he not go along with their recommendation?
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Stefanski and Rees will tell them all of the attributes and skill set they are looking for in a QB. Berry, the scouting department and the analytics department will take it from there.
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I don't see it that way.
They are going to study the prospects together. They will work them out.
They will be part of the interview process. They will go over their tape together and see if there is a consensus.
IMO KS and TR will be the drivers of the QB decision and they should be.
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I don't see it that way.
They are going to study the prospects together. They will work them out.
They will be part of the interview process. They will go over their tape together and see if there is a consensus.
IMO KS and TR will be the drivers of the QB decision and they should be. I agree with you. And i think the same thing happened when they decided to go after DW. Its why i think KS owns a portion of the decision to move on from Baker and sign DW. . . . I dont quite follow how you can think the draft process for a qb is so inclusive yet you absolve KS from any responsibility for DW. Its not a big deal but something that seems to be a disconnect from my perspective.
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The DW deal was different because DW was a trade for veteran QB.
Although KS did have input.
KS and TR went to the Shrine Bowl. KS and TR are going to the Senior Bowl. KS has never gone before as head coach.
They are scouting the draft for quarterbacks.
IMO in the end they will tell AB "this is the guy we want." AB's contribution will be more of where to select? Or, if to trade down.
If KS and TR say we love Ward or Sanders. That is who we will take at two.
They might say we like Dart or Milroe as a second option. In that case AB would try to get one of them later and he would make the move.
AB will help KS and TR select the guy they feel best about with consideration about where.
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Musgrave has a ton of experience working with quarterbacks.
Highly qualified for the position.
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Yeah I am encouraged by that decision.
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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question... But why do we even have a CAP?
I mean we have billionaire owners who for the most part have the ability to cover all costs given the income of the league...
Is it the large market vs small market thing?
Just wondering why it's even a thing?
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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question... But why do we even have a CAP?
I mean we have billionaire owners who for the most part have the ability to cover all costs given the income of the league...
Is it the large market vs small market thing?
Just wondering why it's even a thing? It's a business and the owners want to make as much money as possible.
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It won't be Stefanski who does the evaluation as to what a player in the draft is valued at. If this FO thinks a QB like Milroe is only valued at pick 18 they're not going to use the #2 pick on Milroe. If another team picks Milroe ahead of them there will be no Milroe in Cleveland. This is all pretty basic stuff.
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I think it is a positive the Browns finally saw fit to hire a dedicated QB coach. Particularly, one with extensive experience at that coaching position.
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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question... But why do we even have a CAP?
I mean we have billionaire owners who for the most part have the ability to cover all costs given the income of the league...
Is it the large market vs small market thing?
Just wondering why it's even a thing? Yankees baseball is why.
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The draft process involves many people.
No single person does it all. Players are scouted. The reports are gone over by many and discussed.
Berry has to trust others.
Stefanski and Rees have way more experience with quarterbacks. They are the ones who will be working with the quarterbacks. He is not going to force a quarterback on them. He knows their experience level. Knows they will be the guys who will coach the players in their schemes.
Why in world would he not go along with their recommendation? tommy Rees has spent a grand total of 1 year in the NFL and 4 years as an OC at the college level.Not exactly what I would call "way more experience"
Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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He also is second all time in TD passes at ND.
He was just promoted to OC for reasons.
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Both of those statements are meaningless. I am not questioning whether or not he is a good coach,neither you nor I know that answer.He may very well be the best of the limited pool of coaches willing to take the job. I was simply pointing out the fact that you have,several times,referred to him as highly experienced,he is not.
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I would call someone highly experienced if they played quarterback at ND for four years.
Coached quarterbacks at ND.
Was the OC and quarterbacks coach at ND.
Was the quarterbacks coach and OC for Nick Saban.
Was the passing game coordinator for the Browns last year, and is now the OC for the Browns.
In my book I would call that highly experienced.
If you wish to call that lack of experience then have at it.
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I would call someone highly experienced if they played quarterback at ND for four years.
Coached quarterbacks at ND.
Was the OC and quarterbacks coach at ND.
Was the quarterbacks coach and OC for Nick Saban.
Was the passing game coordinator for the Browns last year, and is now the OC for the Browns.
In my book I would call that highly experienced. If you wish to call that lack of experience then have at it. Also, Nick Saban thought highly enough of Rees to publicly endorse him. For some of us old enough to remember Nick Saban was a Browns Defensive Coordinator on a Browns playoff team that gave up less than 200 points in an entire regular season. I highly value his endorsement of Rees. If he thinks highly of him. I think the Browns made a great choice. The college game and the NFL is littered with ex Nick Saban assistance.
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The draft process involves many people.
No single person does it all. Players are scouted. The reports are gone over by many and discussed.
Berry has to trust others.
Stefanski and Rees have way more experience with quarterbacks. They are the ones who will be working with the quarterbacks. He is not going to force a quarterback on them. He knows their experience level. Knows they will be the guys who will coach the players in their schemes.
Why in world would he not go along with their recommendation? tommy Rees has spent a grand total of 1 year in the NFL and 4 years as an OC at the college level.Not exactly what I would call "way more experience" No, he doesn't. That doesn't mean it won't work. It also means that hiring someone with a ton of past experience doesn't mean it will work. I'd say he has enough. I think everybody who takes that position in the NFL for the first time is looked at as having no experience. He played the game at a major college. The held the position for Saben. That's pretty good in anybodys book I would think. He has been an assistant in the NFL. It's his time.
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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question... But why do we even have a CAP?
I mean we have billionaire owners who for the most part have the ability to cover all costs given the income of the league...
Is it the large market vs small market thing?
Just wondering why it's even a thing? It's a business and the owners want to make as much money as possible. Yes.. It is because of the Yankees, even though the Yankees haven't won a World Series in 15 years. It is all about continuity and the Jacksonville, Kansas City or Cleveland markets with good fanbases being able to put a competitive team on the field... Don't forget along with the cap ceiling, there is also a cap floor to keep the cheap owners from underselling the roster. It works hand in hand. If the system wasn't in place, you could have a roster made up of the 2023 Pro Bowl squads agreeing to play on the same team, just to get a ring, and ownership spending $600M on their one year roster. At the same time, the Bengals could spend $75M on a roster that is sure to get a top 5 draft pick every year and those picks won't want to play for them after their rookie contract is over. The system works.. It is the most competitive league on the world, despite what the Chiefs have accomplished the past several years since Andy Reid took over... if it weren't for the Cap, we would be watching the Cowboys in the Super Bowl AGAIN...... If it were ALL about the owners making more money, the New York's and Dallas' of the world wouldn't allow a cap. They also wouldn't be forced to "Share" the market earnings amongst teams.. which would then make those owners as much money as possible..
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