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Trump signed an order to end birthright citizenship. What is it and what does that mean?

President Donald Trump moved to end a decades-old immigration policy known as birthright citizenship when he ordered the cancellation of the constitutional guarantee that U.S.-born children are citizens regardless of their parents’ status.

Trump’s roughly 700-word executive order, issued late Monday, amounts to a fulfillment of something he’s talked about during the presidential campaign. But whether it succeeds is far from certain as attorneys general in 18 states and two cities challenged the order in court on Tuesday, seeking to block the president.

Here’s a closer look at birthright citizenship, Trump’s executive order and reaction to it:

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What is birthright citizenship?
Birthright citizenship means anyone born in the U.S. is a citizen, regardless of their parents’ immigration status. People, for instance, in the United States on a tourist or other visa or in the country illegally can become the parents of a citizen if their child is born here.

It’s been in place for decades and enshrined in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, supporters say. But Trump and allies dispute the reading of the amendment and say there need to be tougher standards on becoming a citizen.

What does Trump’s order say?
The order questions that the 14th Amendment extends citizenship automatically to anyone born in the United States.

The 14th Amendment was born in the aftermath of the Civil War and ratified in 1868. It says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Trump’s order excludes the following people from automatic citizenship: those whose mothers were not legally in the United States and whose fathers were not U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents; people whose mothers were in the country legally but on a temporary basis and whose fathers were not citizens or legal permanent residents.

It goes on to bar federal agencies from recognizing the citizenship of people in those categories. It takes effect 30 days from Tuesday, on Feb. 19.


What is the history of the issue?
The 14th Amendment did not always guarantee birthright citizenship to all U.S.-born people. Congress did not authorize citizenship for all Native Americans born in the United States, for instance, until 1924.

In 1898 an important birthright citizenship case unfolded in the U.S. Supreme Court. The court held that Wong Kim Ark, who was born in San Francisco to Chinese immigrants, was a U.S. citizen because he was born in the country. After a trip abroad, he had faced denied reentry by the federal government on the grounds that he wasn’t a citizen under the Chinese Exclusion Act.

But some advocates of immigration restrictions have argued that while the case clearly applied to children born to parents who are both legal immigrants, it’s less clear whether it applies to children born to parents without legal status.

What has the reaction to Trump’s order been?
Eighteen states, plus the District of Columbia and San Francisco sued in federal court to block Trump’s order.

New Jersey Democratic Attorney General Matt Platkin said Tuesday the president cannot undo a right written into the Constitution with a stroke of his pen.

“Presidents have broad power but they are not kings,” Platkin said.

Not long after Trump signed the order, immigrant rights groups filed suit to stop it.

Chapters of the American Civil Liberties Union in New Hampshire, Maine and Massachusetts along with other immigrant rights advocates filed a suit in New Hampshire federal court.

The suit asks the court to find the order to be unconstitutional. It highlights the case of a woman identified as “Carmen,” who is pregnant but is not a citizen. The lawsuit says she has lived in the United States for more than 15 years and has a pending visa application that could lead to permanent status. She has no other immigration status, and the father of her expected child has no immigration status either, the suit says.

“Stripping children of the ‘priceless treasure’ of citizenship is a grave injury,” the suit said. “It denies them the full membership in U.S. society to which they are entitled.”

In addition to New Jersey and the two cities, California, Massachusetts, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin joined the lawsuit to stop the order.

https://apnews.com/article/birthrig...grants-fc7dd75ba1fb0a10f56b2a85b92dbe53#


Trash ass POTUS on day one.

I noticed he made sure it was worded to protect his mail-order-bride delivered immigrant kids. We all know the smelania coin pushing porn star he drug into the white house was illegal as they get. An Einstein visa? Really, Donald?

Einstein Visa explained:

Melania Trump obtained US citizenship on a visa reserved for immigrants with "extraordinary ability" and "sustained national and international acclaim", according to a report in the Washington Post.


I guess her “extraordinary ability” is why they renegotiate their prenuptial agreement every year… smfh.

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It seems obvious he thinks he has the power to re-write the constitution.


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Yes, 38 state ratifications can make a law an amendment to the United States Constitution. This is because the Constitution requires that an amendment be ratified by three-fourths of the states.

Explanation

The process for amending the Constitution is outlined in Article V.

To propose an amendment, two-thirds of both the House of Representatives and the Senate must pass a resolution.
Once the amendment is passed by Congress, it must be ratified by three-fourths of the states.

The Archivist of the United States is responsible for certifying each state's ratification and publishing the amendment in the Constitution.

The Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) is an example of an amendment that was proposed by Congress and ratified by 38 states. However, the ERA faced challenges in the ratification process, including a seven-year deadline that was extended by three years.

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The whole timeline really seems to be a good summary of how our government functions.


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“Presidents have broad power but they are not kings,” Platkin said.

No not kings,, But this one acts like it and seems to want it.


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The 14th amendment was written and ratified to protect the citizenship rights of freed slaves from being abridged by southern democrats, not to give the rights and benefits of being an American to some criminal who has broken into our country and dropped a baby. In the 70’s, I believe Brennan added a footnote to a case ruling saying it should be applied equally to illegals.

That has never been tested in court as far as I can tell . I could not find any Supreme Court ruling beyond the initial remark by Brennan. It needs to be tested and now that we have an administration that believes in an American border and the preciousness of American citizenship it will be. Hopefully our Supreme Court will look at the original intent and abolish this stupid ruling.

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So the words and what it says aren't important? This is about being born on American soil. A baby is not "some criminal who has broken into our country".


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I believe the courts look at intent. That is what I hope it is judged on. You clearly don’t care about that. Hopefully it will get across ruling in the next 12 months.

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this amendment has been a thing for a while now..like 1972 awhile. but certain states refuse to ratify it. i don't understand how thats similar to what Trump just did.


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Ehhh, it was mostly a smart-assed backhanded reply. That's actually my specialty. I'm trying to change.


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nah i know, im just wondering how this helps our birthrate issue. especially since kids that are born here easily integrate into our culture.


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